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I have a GP1975 that will not hand cycle all the time, it does not eject the rounds out all the time and some times will come out of the barrel but hangs on the ejector, and does not eject them with as much force by hand as my WASR10. I have not fired the gun I just got it not to long ago. I just want to know if it will make a difference taking it out and firing it and maybe it will eject the rounds more often with more force or should I look into replacing the bolt. Thanks for your input.
BPTactical
08-28-2011, 21:38
I have a GP1975 that will not hand cycle all the time, it does not eject the rounds out all the time and some times will come out of the barrel but hangs on the ejector, and does not eject them with as much force by hand as my WASR10. I have not fired the gun I just got it not to long ago. I just want to know if it will make a difference taking it out and firing it and maybe it will eject the rounds more often with more force or should I look into replacing the bolt. Thanks for your input.
Shoot it
Nothing wrong with the bolt. Clean the bolt very well, it may have crapola in the extractor. If the extractor is not holding the case as firmly as it should it will let the case roll and move when it hits the ejector instead of holding it firm and letting the ejector kick it smartly.
Extractor springs are cheap.
Change the bolt and you change the headspace. Not wise.
Don't worry if it seems a touch sluggish when hand cycled, your only moving things at about 100th of the speed of firing.
Shoot it
Nothing wrong with the bolt. Clean the bolt very well, it may have crapola in the extractor. If the extractor is not holding the case as firmly as it should it will let the case roll and move when it hits the ejector instead of holding it firm and letting the ejector kick it smartly.
Extractor springs are cheap.
Change the bolt and you change the headspace.
Don't worry if it seems a touch sluggish when hand cycled, your only moving things at about 100th of the speed of firing. Thanks for the advice BP I will give it a try.
stevelkinevil
08-29-2011, 16:00
I had to polish the back of the hammer on mine to get it running reliably.
I took my AK47 out today and it was a jamfest It would not eject properly and the bolt would hang up, so I came home polished the hammer cause it had a burr and I also polished the bottom of the bolt and smoothed out the action but still does not eject properly, I did take a look at the extractor and it is rounded I am hoping that is the problem. I switched bolts between my WASR10 and the GP1975 and it through the round out like it should have, but the bolt did not fit properly it would not go into battery all the way. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
stevelkinevil
08-30-2011, 22:51
if your still having issues at this point hand it over to BP.
if your still having issues at this point hand it over to BP. I could not get 2 shots off I am so pissed at that dude that traded it to me, we both signed a BOS that stated both guns were legal and in good working order, he knew his gun was a pile of crap I wish I would have spoke with BP before I did the trade. Like I said I think it is just an extracter now everything else works with a smooth action, not as smooth as my WASR10 but smoother then alot of AK's I have handled. Thanks for the advice though I do appreciate it, I am going to give it another shot and if I cant fix it I will turn it over to him, He is probably like me when it comes to cars and bikes and does not like fixing other peoples screw ups, but if I cant do it I will put it back exactly how I found it. Who knows if the kit was installed right when I did get it to fire off rounds I had to manually reset the trigger by pushing forward on it, but I think I fixed that by polishing a few things that had some burrs, I took off the cover and hand cycled it then fired it and watched what happened, when you hand cycle it the trigger will reset every time, the first round fired you have to push it forward with your trigger finger.
You might try calling or emailing Century. The only time I emailed them they replied within 48 hours. I don't see that you would have much to lose except a little time. Worse they could do is say that you're on your own.
Good luck.
BPTactical
08-31-2011, 08:28
I took my AK47 out today and it was a jamfest It would not eject properly and the bolt would hang up, so I came home polished the hammer cause it had a burr and I also polished the bottom of the bolt and smoothed out the action but still does not eject properly, I did take a look at the extractor and it is rounded I am hoping that is the problem. I switched bolts between my WASR10 and the GP1975 and it through the round out like it should have, but the bolt did not fit properly it would not go into battery all the way. Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
By "polishing" things you voided Centuries warranty. Give them a call but I am pretty sure you will hit a dead end.
If I have a problem fixing other peoples foul ups I am in the wrong business. Comes with the territory, no biggie.
One thing really concerns me here. In a prior post you mentioned swapping bolts and I mentioned it changing headspace and recommended not to do it. AK's are not like an AR where you can typically swap bolts and be ok. On an AK headspace is set by the depth of the barrel in the trunnion to that specific bolt therefore it varies from rifle to rifle.
You are damn lucky that the rifle did not go into battery. Too tight of headspace you run the risk of crowding the round in the chamber and spiking chamber pressures excessively or punching a primer.
Kaboom.
Too much headspace and the casehead is unsupported.
Kaboom.
Add that to a bullpup where the chamber is right next to your melon.
Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
Quit while you are ahead Atrain.
Quit while you still have one!
[Swim]
I don't mean to sound like a jerk and I am glad to help but you are flirting with disaster and I don't think you fully grasp the concept of just what your dealing with here.
By "polishing" things you voided Centuries warranty. Give them a call but I am pretty sure you will hit a dead end.
If I have a problem fixing other peoples foul ups I am in the wrong business. Comes with the territory, no biggie.
One thing really concerns me here. In a prior post you mentioned swapping bolts and I mentioned it changing headspace and recommended not to do it. AK's are not like an AR where you can typically swap bolts and be ok. On an AK headspace is set by the depth of the barrel in the trunnion to that specific bolt therefore it varies from rifle to rifle.
You are damn lucky that the rifle did not go into battery. Too tight of headspace you run the risk of crowding the round in the chamber and spiking chamber pressures excessively or punching a primer.
Kaboom.
Too much headspace and the casehead is unsupported.
Kaboom.
Add that to a bullpup where the chamber is right next to your melon.
Gee, what could possibly go wrong?
Quit while you are ahead Atrain.
Quit while you still have one!
[Swim]
I don't mean to sound like a jerk and I am glad to help but you are flirting with disaster and I don't think you fully grasp the concept of just what your dealing with here. I did not fire it that way just hand cycled to see if it was the extractor, and it threw the shell out like it should have, so now I need to find an extractor. And does CAI cover second hand sales or do you have to be the original buyer?
BPTactical
08-31-2011, 12:08
Centuries warranty is for 1 year IIRC. Not sure if it would cover a transfer of ownership-doubtful but you got nothing to lose with a phone call.
I can find extractors no problem.
Centuries warranty is for 1 year IIRC. Not sure if it would cover a transfer of ownership-doubtful but you got nothing to lose with a phone call.
I can find extractors no problem. Thats all I need and if it does not fix it I will bring it to you, thanks alot for your help after the way I went off half cocked. You would not happen to have the number for centry do you, and also it was converted to a BP, I am sure that probably voided the warranty, my brother told me the same thing about calling so I think I will.
nogaroheli
08-31-2011, 12:23
Thats all I need and if it does not fix it I will bring it to you, thanks alot for your help after the way I went off half cocked. You would not happen to have the number for centry do you, and also it was converted to a BP, I am sure that probably voided the warranty, my brother told me the same thing about calling so I think I will.
I got the googles, and they gave me this:
http://www.centuryarms.com/?page_id=39
stevelkinevil
08-31-2011, 20:13
Thats all I need and if it does not fix it I will bring it to you, thanks alot for your help after the way I went off half cocked. You would not happen to have the number for centry do you, and also it was converted to a BP, I am sure that probably voided the warranty, my brother told me the same thing about calling so I think I will.
Converted by whom? mine was done by century. If someone did it with the AKU94 kit and a century romo after purchase there is no chance they will cover anything.
mcantar18c
08-31-2011, 20:19
Atrain if your so fed up with your jamfest AK I'll buy it from you [Coffee]
Atrain if your so fed up with your jamfest AK I'll buy it from you [Coffee] I have to much into it so I have to fix it all it needs is an extractor, Thanks for the offer.
jreifsch80
09-01-2011, 09:25
pm sent
Does anyone know what comes in the bullpup kit for the AK47? I was going through the bag of parts that came with the gun the stock GP1975 parts, and I found a brand new hammer, so my question is does the Bullpup configuration use a different hammer or did I just end up with a brand new hammer somehow. Thanks
My kit came with a hammer. It's been a couple years ago I installed it. I don't remember if it was just a compliance part or if it is different. I can look tomorrow if you want me to.
My kit came with a hammer. It's been a couple years ago I installed it. I don't remember if it was just a compliance part or if it is different. I can look tomorrow if you want me to. That would be great thanks.
I compared the K-Var hammer with a WASR hammer. Visually they appear to be identcal. I'm not willing to remove them to do any fine measurements.
I compared the K-Var hammer with a WASR hammer. Visually they appear to be identcal. I'm not willing to remove them to do any fine measurements. I am not to worried about it I have that problem fixed, just need it to eject the spent casing out like it should, I am hoping that the new extractor fixes it, if not I will send it to BP, and when I fix it I will be sure and send the guy a video I got it from and tell him he is right it does work really well.
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