View Full Version : Carrying at the Taste of Colorado???
I don't wanna screw up... but can I carry at the Taste of Colorado? I have never carried in or aroud Denver and I'm not 100% sure what I can / cannot do down there. Should I error on the side of caution and leave it in the car?
sneakerd
09-04-2011, 16:42
My god please don't. Carrying a pistol openly in that crowd? Insanity.
I was assuming he meant concealed. Did the OP mean open carry? In Denver?
If you're CCing then I don't see a problem.
I mean concealed. I can't remember Denver's crazy laws and didn't wanna do something stupid
sneakerd
09-04-2011, 17:08
Alrighty then. Sorry- I've been rolling with the Open Carry discussion today and didn't differentiate.
patrick0685
09-04-2011, 17:18
you gunna be there today hawk?
I mean concealed. I can't remember Denver's crazy laws and didn't wanna do something stupid
You're good to CCW with a permit. Denver can't regulate that, according to state law and the Meyer Decision.
So what do ya think? Yes or no?!? I'm getting close!!!
I've never felt unsafe downtown in the daytime. Just leave it in the car and enjoy yourself. [Beer]
The website says no weapons allowed. Which is why I wont be going. :-)
Here now! As is all of Denver's finest.... And not so finest
patrick0685
09-04-2011, 18:08
Here now! As is all of Denver's finest.... And not so finest
sweet ill be there in 30-45 min
So if your planning on carrying what for? Don't like the taste of blah blah so shoot it... LOL
I wasted money once at the taste.. never again.
Man i would never go down to caphill are without one...
Im with monkey on this one, use to work at ING and we would always go...some of its good but alot of its not.
patrick0685
09-04-2011, 21:58
that will be the one and only time we ever go
Great-Kazoo
09-04-2011, 22:12
So if your planning on carrying what for? Don't like the taste of blah blah so shoot it... LOL
it's the walk to and from the festivities where anything could happen. I personally don't care one way or the other, i do not go to the metro area w/out a sidearm. YMMV
Not going this year but I always carry down there...
Everything went well...man... I forgot how expensive it is and how much fun people watching is!!! There are some strange people roaming the streets of Denver.
If anybody knows the chick that was strutting around in the hot pink fishnet shirt and pants, tell her, "don't wear 8 inch, white Stilleto heels, they totally ruined the outfit![Puke]
I about spit my fried alligator all over the thug in his all red threads and neon green nikes!!! WTF?!?
I've never felt unsafe downtown in the daytime. Just leave it in the car and enjoy yourself. [Beer]
I thought the point in carrying was that one never knows when they may have need of a firearm. So if your only carrying when you feel unsafe then you should stop going to those places. Then you wouldn't need to carry at all.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't guns and alchohol not good together? I thought bars were off limits for ccw and to me this would fit in the same catagory. It may read as sarcasm but I'm actually asking because I don't know. Since it was pointed out that weapons weren't allowed I figure that would end the discussion anyway.
On the broader personal safety point I agree with not going places where you think you need a gun. I'm also sure that public security is upped a bit for big events like this.
I've seen people get patted down there, but they were young thug looking guys. I saw that and put my piece away. Then when I came back, I was carrying my daughter on my shoulders and they let me right through.
On the broader personal safety point I agree with not going places where you think you need a gun. I'm also sure that public security is upped a bit for big events like this.
Really? So just being prepared is too much then? I carry everywhere because crazy people go everywhere, plain and simple.
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 01:05
Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't guns and alchohol not good together? I thought bars were off limits for ccw and to me this would fit in the same catagory. It may read as sarcasm but I'm actually asking because I don't know. Since it was pointed out that weapons weren't allowed I figure that would end the discussion anyway.
On the broader personal safety point I agree with not going places where you think you need a gun. I'm also sure that public security is upped a bit for big events like this.
I'm always armed, 100% of the time. I also drink occasionally, like at the BBQ I was at yesterday. You haven't seen any news reports about me yet.
IMO, if you aren't responsible enough to stick to your limits with some drinks, you probably aren't responsible enough to carry a weapon.
I've heard bars are "gun-free zones" but as we all know, if criminals followed the laws then they wouldn't be criminals.
I work at a place that has a bar in it, with a very strict "no weapons" policy for the employees. I just got home from work, and I sit here in my work clothes with my BUG and a spare mag, a 4.75" folder, and a 2" push blade... all completely concealed, all very simply, easily, and quickly accessible.
Concealed is concealed. YOU and ONLY YOU are responsible for your own safety and well being.
Also, in response to your second paragraph... I avoid the not so nice places as much as possible, but occasionally its necessary to go to these areas. Don't let some criminal scum limit you in accomplishing whatever it is you need to do. There's a reason you carry that gun.
with a very strict "no weapons" policy for the employees.
If you work where I think you work, I want to check that place out.
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 01:31
If you work where I think you work, I want to check that place out.
If I work where you think I work... don't bother. Not worth it whatsoever. Everything there is stupid expensive compared to the same exact shit at other places. That, and I swear I work with a bunch of f*cking 13 year olds, they're all immature drama-whores. The only reason I'm still there is because I only have to put up with it for another 8 weeks and then I can get the hell out of here.
Well, I see that you're in Centennial, so I don't think it is the same place.
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 01:44
I work less than a mile from where I live, so if its not in Centennial then no probably not.
What place are you thinking of?
Some movie theater in Westminster that serves alcohol. I think it is called Cinnebar or something.
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 03:05
Never heard of it
Great-Kazoo
09-05-2011, 07:17
Please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't guns and alchohol not good together? I thought bars were off limits for ccw and to me this would fit in the same catagory. It may read as sarcasm but I'm actually asking because I don't know. Since it was pointed out that weapons weren't allowed I figure that would end the discussion anyway.
On the broader personal safety point I agree with not going places where you think you need a gun. I'm also sure that public security is upped a bit for big events like this.
you can carry in places that serve alcohol, Providing they also serve food, have a menu. Normal "bars" no carry.
Bailey Guns
09-05-2011, 07:44
There are NO statutory restrictions in Colorado for carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Period.
Lex_Luthor
09-05-2011, 07:50
My fiance and I are going to ride our bikes down to the Taste. Should be enjoyable. Don't have my permit yet so I won't be carrying (a gun anyway.)
you can carry in places that serve alcohol, Providing they also serve food, have a menu. Normal "bars" no carry.
Where are you getting this from? Cite please.
It is completely legal to carry in any establishment that serves alcohol.
It is illegal to be under the influence of alcohol while carrying.
sneakerd
09-05-2011, 09:22
While it appears that it is legal to CCw in a bar, it is probably not the best idea because you are likely to take a drink, and that's not good.
I don't see a problem concealing your gun.
While it appears that it is legal to CCw in a bar, it is probably not the best idea because you are likely to take a drink, and that's not good.
Why is that not good? What do you do if you have a drink at home? Do you unload your weapons and lock them in a safe at a friends house?
Reminds me of one time i went to elitches carrying. They had metal detectors that are bolted down, and i was already past the one way pass through thingy so i couldn't just turn around. I said the hell with it, went though... BEEP!!! Showed my CCW and attempted to explain i forgot, and I am licensed to carry. Those rent a cops just flagged me along like i was showing him my badge or something! Needless to say I still left... Was not going to be there with that kind of security.
Reminds me of one time i went to elitches carrying. They had metal detectors that are bolted down, and i was already past the one way pass through thingy so i couldn't just turn around. I said the hell with it, went though... BEEP!!! Showed my CCW and attempted to explain i forgot, and I am licensed to carry. Those rent a cops just flagged me along like i was showing him my badge or something! Needless to say I still left... Was not going to be there with that kind of security.
I wonder when they put those in? I haven't been there in years.
Robby30-06
09-05-2011, 11:20
Why is that not good? What do you do if you have a drink at home? Do you unload your weapons and lock them in a safe at a friends house?
Being at home is a waaaayy different story. In public+carrying+under the influence=big trouble!![PoPo]
Being at home is a waaaayy different story. In public+carrying+under the influence=big trouble!![PoPo]
Really? That's funny because I can remember quite a few times when I've had a drink or two while carrying in public. None of which resulted in[PoPo]
Some states have an actual limit like .08 that you have to be at or over in order to be in trouble while carrying. In Colorado, it is at the officer's discretion. That is where it gets to be sticky.
I personally limit myself to one drink if I'm carrying. It ends up being a lot cheaper for me when I go out.
Some states have an actual limit like .08 that you have to be at or over in order to be in trouble while carrying. In Colorado, it is at the officer's discretion. That is where it gets to be sticky.
I personally limit myself to one drink if I'm carrying. It ends up being a lot cheaper for me when I go out.
I really wish "under the influence" was better defined in the CRS pertaining to firearms. I also never have more than two while carrying.
Robby30-06
09-05-2011, 12:03
Really? That's funny because I can remember quite a few times when I've had a drink or two while carrying in public. None of which resulted in[PoPo]
Ok. Do what works for ya then.
Ok. Do what works for ya then.
k. Thanks. I'll do that.
My personal limit for drinking while carrying is the same as riding my motorcycles...zero. It's an either/or decision for me.
Colorado is very vague concerning actual limits, but I was told by a number of different LEOs that they would apply the same standards as they would to drivers: .05 is enough to cite you in their opinion. A larger concern would be if you actually had to use your CCW for defense while you had alcohol in your system. Even if you are cleared of criminal wrongdoing, alcohol(and the impaired judgement that comes with intoxication)opens another door for a civil attorney to make your life difficult.
My personal limit for drinking while carrying is the same as riding my motorcycles...zero. It's an either/or decision for me.
Colorado is very vague concerning actual limits, but I was told by a number of different LEOs that they would apply the same standards as they would to drivers .05 is enough to cite you in their opinion. A larger concern would be if you actually had to use your CCW for defense while you had alcohol in your system. Even if you are cleared of criminal wrongdoing, alcohol(and the impaired judgement that comes with intoxication)opens another door for a civil attorney to make your life difficult.
Colorado needs to pass a law that would prevent being sued in civil court that a person was cleared of in criminal court. I know a couple other states have laws like that.
Byte Stryke
09-05-2011, 12:37
sadly, if something were to transpire and you had ANY amount of Alcohol, you might not see jail time for it, but I can almost promise some ambulance chaser will stack a civil case against you for it saying "His judgement may have been impaired." or some crap.
I don't drink, don't need to. I have enough drama in my life without it.
I don't drink, don't need to. I have enough drama in my life without it.
I got the feeling you were a bit of a drama queen.
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 12:57
I got the feeling you were a bit of a drama queen.
[ROFL1]
As I said before... if you aren't responsible enough to stick to your limits with alcohol in public, then you probably aren't responsible enough to be carrying a gun.
Bailey Guns
09-05-2011, 13:56
Being at home is a waaaayy different story. In public+carrying+under the influence=big trouble!![PoPo]
Nobody said they were under the influence. Someone said it was illegal to carry in places where alcohol is served. It is not illegal.
It's also not illegal to consume alcoholic beverages while in possession of a firearm as long as you're not intoxicated.
Yes, there could be an issue with officer discretion and determining "under the influence". No there is no statutory definition. However, 15 years "in the business" I can say most cops will use the same standards they would if you're driving.
I'm more likely to have a beer while carrying (though that means almost never) than to have a beer while riding my motorcycle.
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