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KevDen2005
09-05-2011, 22:33
So many of you know that I am a more concealed carry type of guy. I don't like sharing what I have. Keep in secret-keep it safe (I stole from a member here). However, it being perfectly legal to open carry I do once in a while.
This morning I was at my friend's who lives in a horse community with several homes on 2 to 5 acre lots. He is teaching me how to ride horses. We work all night together then before I head home to go to bed we ride for a couple hours. As always I carry a gun, like in everything else I do. I happen to open carry because it feels a little easier and it is slightly more country than city so I feel more comfortable doing it.
This morning as we're riding we stopped a long the way to chat up his neighbors about horsing stuff (I stayed silent because I don't know what I'm talking about). The couple was older but very nice, then when my horse turned they saw me open carrying and became completely disgusted that I was doing so. Not that it matters in this situation, but they know I'm a police officer at this point. The guy is from Boston so I politely explained to him that it is legal in Colorado to do so. However the disgust continued, so I just left it at that.
That's my story, I was just annoyed and decided to share it.
Should have asked him if he wanted to touch it.
Good thing he wasn't carrying a gun. What a weirdo, not like you had your junk hanging out of your pants or something.
KevDen2005
09-05-2011, 22:41
Good thing he wasn't carrying a gun. What a weirdo, not like you had your junk hanging out of your pants or something.
Oh, I forgot to mention I wan't wearing any pants or underwear, but that shouldn't make it weird, just a pantsless guy with a gun
J/K
You were wearing socks thought right? Otherwise it would have just been weird...
Byte Stryke
09-05-2011, 22:49
You were wearing socks thought right? Otherwise it would have just been weird...
its weird that I Agree with spyder that it would have been weird...
weird huh?
mcantar18c
09-05-2011, 22:56
That's what happens when you get transplants moving here cause they want to try their hand at country life. Ignore em.
I had a similar situation once. Buddy and I riding down the road, stopped to chat with some people that lived down the road, who saw our guns (an SAA on my hip and another in a saddle horn holster, same for him)...
"Do you really need to ride around with those things?"
"It'd be ignorant and just plain stupid not to. Where yall from?"
"California, Orange County. Moved here last year."
"Uh huh. Well sir, this is how we do things out here. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to stay here."
They don't talk to us anymore [Coffee]
KevDen2005
09-05-2011, 23:02
That's what happens when you get transplants moving here cause they want to try their hand at country life. Ignore em.
I had a similar situation once. Buddy and I riding down the road, stopped to chat with some people that lived down the road, who saw our guns (an SAA on my hip and another in a saddle horn holster, same for him)...
"Do you really need to ride around with those things?"
"It'd be ignorant and just plain stupid not to. Where yall from?"
"California, Orange County. Moved here last year."
"Uh huh. Well sir, this is how we do things out here. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to stay here."
They don't talk to us anymore [Coffee]
I realized there was no convincing them...I almost said something really stupid but thought, no, they already know that I am a cop, don't need that getting back to my PD. So I just said what I always say, "Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it."
And yes, I was wearing socks, would have been totally weird otherwise...
Troublco
09-05-2011, 23:06
Some years ago I was up hunting near Weston pass with a couple of friends, both about 20 years older than me. We were open carrying our revolvers (our hunting sidearms) just as we usually did when hunting, or just up in the mountains. We stopped to help a couple who had slid into a ditch with their Toyota pickup. They were a little different, but nice enough, and very talkative and friendly all through our pulling them out of the ditch, right up until they happened to notice our sidearms. I saw her notice, and then freak out as calmly as she could, and point out my Ruger to her boyfriend/husband/whatever. They suddenly acted like we were escaped felons and about to do them in, and couldn't leave fast enough. As we drove down the road if my truck got within 500 yards they'd goose it and shoot off down the road. I'm sure they had quite the story about the gun totin' loonies that tried to off them in the mountains. Never mind that if we hadn't pulled them out, they would probably have been up where they were for the better part of the (very snowy and cold) day, if not longer.
It's amazing how the simple presence of a weapon suddenly changes you from a helpful, friendly person into a bloodthirsty lunatic for some people. [Rant2]
That's what happens when you get transplants moving here cause they want to try their hand at country life. Ignore em.
I had a similar situation once. Buddy and I riding down the road, stopped to chat with some people that lived down the road, who saw our guns (an SAA on my hip and another in a saddle horn holster, same for him)...
"Do you really need to ride around with those things?"
They don't talk to us anymore [Coffee]
With all due respect ma'am, we're clearly too large to be riding dogs.
KevDen2005
09-05-2011, 23:21
With all due respect ma'am, we're clearly too large to be riding dogs.
I leterally laughed out loud
You laughed out loud laterally? Like while laying on the ground?
KevDen2005
09-05-2011, 23:50
You laughed out loud laterally? Like while laying on the ground?
Well I meant l meant literally but I was lying on the ground doing it....
Bailey Guns
09-06-2011, 07:02
Well I meant l meant literally but I was lying on the ground doing it....
Were you wearing socks?
KevDen2005
09-06-2011, 08:03
Were you wearing socks?
Well yeah, I didn't want to be weird or inappropriate
BPTactical
09-06-2011, 08:14
And I suppose they were "tube" socks.............................................
Bailey Guns
09-06-2011, 08:32
And I suppose they were "tube" socks.............................................
OK. Now see? That's the sort of thing that's weird and inappropriate. So why does it make me laugh?
[Coffee]
You have to remember most people are ignorant when it comes to Guns, I am from California and I thought it was the coolest thing when I went to buy a gun and got it the same day instead of a 2 week waiting period, it is very hard to get a gun in California unless you are a bad guy and get one off the street, so that is why people from California are the way they are about guns and it is not all of them just the people that dont know how things work. I also thought it was incredible that you could open carry in Colorado, so you just got to realize that most people are just ignorant when it comes to guns and there is no explaining it. I was in a gas station the other day and I had a 1911 on my side and a lady started freaking out when she seen my gun, she backed up and started telling the clerk oh my gosh he has a gun, I tried to explain to her I was going to go shoot but she just wanted to get out of the store, the interesting thing was she had a bumper sticker that said Colorado Native and another one that said no vacancies. So I guess there are just people everywere that are ignorant about firearms. I used to live in Idaho and there is no problem carrying your gun in the town of Naples.
trlcavscout
09-06-2011, 09:19
Personally I am more comfortable when I see someone open carrying, that way I dont have to wonder where they are concealing it.
ghettodub
09-06-2011, 09:29
I say if he doesn't like it or is disgusted, forget him... Who cares. Just my .02
TriggerHappy
09-06-2011, 09:38
Oh, I forgot to mention I wan't wearing any pants or underwear, but that shouldn't make it weird, just a pantsless guy with a gun
J/K
Ass-less chaps?!?!? Had to sorry.
I say if he doesn't like it or is disgusted, forget him... Who cares. Just my .02
Yeah...at least he was wearing socks!
ghettodub
09-06-2011, 09:53
Yeah...at least he was wearing socks!
[LOL]
BPTactical
09-06-2011, 10:11
This is where I get the mixed feelings on OC. While it is within our right to carry OC in most places in Colorado and believe me I am all for preserving our rights I personally feel a little discretion goes a long way.
As I stated in a different thread on the subject the majority of people I have witnessed OC'ing are knuckleheads in the way they do it. Exaggerated body movements and ensuring that EVERYBODY sees you are carrying just makes the party carrying appear like a tool.
Parties openly carrying firearms in public that flaunt the fact and are douchebags supreme do our 2A rights no justice.
All it takes is a few soccer moms and libs whining to city council and more anti 2A ordinances will be on the books.
In Kevins case where he is out ridin the range I would have tried to educate the ignorant Massachusetts transplant. The fact that the transplants know he is LE just speaks to their ignorance.
The other case where a board member was helping some stuck pilgrims the reaction of the pilgrims was predictable and not surprising.
Our beloved state has become a liberal bastion of the transplants.
No easy answer on getting them to see the light.
Byte Stryke
09-06-2011, 10:30
See, I have a problem here.
I do not believe the fact that Kev is a Law enforcement officer has any relevance in the matter at all.
He could be a puppy poop cleaner or flip burgers at McDonald's and he has the same right to open carry and SHOULD be equally protected.
As far as the douche bags that abuse and flaunt the open carry thing, I agree that its doing us no favors, but that's a maturity issue and should be addressed case by case.
funkfool
09-06-2011, 11:46
I do not believe the fact that Kev is a Law enforcement officer has any relevance in the matter at all.
+1
I have open carried and I don't make an issue of it... I don't honestly believe anyone has ever noticed my M9 in a Kydex paddle at 3 to 4 o'clock...
I usually open carry if I am working in the yard and just need to run to the store or HD etc.. just easier to pop in the paddle holster...
http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_socks-12922.jpg
Oh no... break out the ban hammer... this was just too funny...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J9_g9eDoWNg/SpfgTFiq_EI/AAAAAAAAdj0/cKMTEpNL5hA/s400/sock-puppets-funny-humor-obama-grea.jpg
BPTactical
09-06-2011, 12:31
I cannot agree more that what one does for a living is irrelevant when it comes to ones right to carry.
What I was trying to illustrate is seeing how the Bostonian Boobs were well aware of what KevDen does for a living then the fact that the Bostonian Boobs got their undies(or socks) twisted just further exemplifies their ignorance.
rockhound
09-06-2011, 12:49
usually open carrying on the trail, hiking or four wheeling. i have had a few strange looks from the obvious boulderites walking along, sometime get a weird look from a client when i pop on the holster when showing large tract of vacant land. when you are walking 80 acre tracts you might as well be in the back country.
glenncal1
09-06-2011, 13:46
Just remember if you touch off a round while riding that horse that you better hold on real tight. That horse is going to be heading for the south 40 at his best rate of speed unless it has been very well trained.
[Luck]
mcantar18c
09-06-2011, 13:50
Just remember if you touch off a round while riding that horse that you better hold on real tight. That horse is going to be heading for the south 40 at his best rate of speed unless it has been very well trained.
[Luck]
It ain't hard to condition them to gunshots...
BPTactical
09-06-2011, 14:29
It ain't hard to condition them to gunshots...
Yup- right between the eyes and they get used to it real quick[Muaha]
mcantar18c
09-06-2011, 14:35
That's a disgusting and tasteless joke.
Made me laugh though [Tooth]
tonantius
09-06-2011, 15:14
It just seems most people ask "Why do you need a gun?" And of course we all know the answers:
1) I can't carry a cop
2) It takes minutes for 911 when seconds count
3) I can't call 911 when I'm dead
etc., etc., etc.
I know that in the liberal havens they condition the sheeple that guns are only used by bad guys and bad hunters.
A good answer, IMHO, is to say it is to shoot rattlesnakes that try to strike the horse,
or, it's to protect against bear attacks. Be careful of the bears.
Turn it back on them to show they are really ignorant.
;)
mcantar18c
09-06-2011, 15:20
My standard response to "Why do you need to carry a gun?" is "I can't throw a rock as fast as a bullet."
KevDen2005
09-06-2011, 17:14
And as I pointed out in my original post I don't think it matters that I am an LEO in this situation, but trying to use my LEO job as a way to calm them down and explain to them the legality of what I was doing and how they could do it too...obviously it didn't get that far.
I am a transplant, not by choice because I was very young when we came here. But my family moved here for what Colorado is and the culture here and left the shitty culture behind because they wanted nothing to do with it.
Byte Stryke
09-06-2011, 18:14
I am a transplant, not by choice because I was very young when we came here. But my family moved here for what Colorado is and the culture here and left the shitty culture behind because they wanted nothing to do with it.
Good enough in my Book.
If someone ever asks if you're compensating for something, reply with, "God damned right I'm compensating. If I could lob 230 grain projectiles at 900 ft/sec out of my dick, I wouldn't need this gun now would I?"
Geology Rocks
09-06-2011, 21:01
I just say this...
"When I asked my wifes father for his permission and his blessing to marry his daughter. I made a promise to him to not only care for her emotional needs, her financial needs, and love her the way Christ loved the church. I promised him to protect her. I promised him that I would gladly die if it meant my wife, and his daughters, safety. That is something I take very seriously and I will mean it till the day God takes me off of this earth."
most people just say..."wow...ok. Hope you never need it." It has actually converted 2 people from being very anti gun to being ok with them. I actually took 1 of them shooting one time.
joe
BPTactical
09-06-2011, 21:18
If someone ever asks if you're compensating for something, reply with, "God damned right I'm compensating. If I could lob 230 grain projectiles at 900 ft/sec our of my dick, I wouldn't need this gun now would I?"
Damn near perfect Stu..........................[ROFL1]
Byte Stryke
09-06-2011, 21:52
If someone ever asks if you're compensating for something, reply with, "God damned right I'm compensating. If I could lob 230 grain projectiles at 900 ft/sec our of my dick, I wouldn't need this gun now would I?"
I laughed so hard that I started coughing and Damn near passed out.
If someone ever asks if you're compensating for something, reply with, "God damned right I'm compensating. If I could lob 230 grain projectiles at 900 ft/sec out of my dick, I wouldn't need this gun now would I?"
[ROFL1] friggen awesome!
I laughed so hard that I started coughing and Damn near passed out.
I think my office chair broke... nope, wait, it didn't, but we came pretty close. Note to self- brace before laughter.
JackImpact
09-07-2011, 12:00
People are pathetic. How were they raised and where did they come from? My family isnt a gun family and they always taught me violence is not the way, but they never told me to be some pathetic push over.
I see someone carrying a gun and I wanna run up and chat them up about it and get into a good old talk about our favorites.
I open carry to send a message, its my right and god damn Im going to use it. So all those nanny state candy ass liberal wanks can go jump off a bridge.
So, question for the LEO's.....are most LEO's aware that it's legal to OC in CO? I'm scared to death to try it because I'd be the poor dumb bastard that runs into the one cop that thinks NOBODY not in a uniform should be allowed to carry.
I mean, I'd like to try OC, but I don't really want to get beaten down, cuffed and stuffed for it. Just because an act is legal doesn't mean you won't run into a cop that will swear it isn't legal and attempt to "put you under control". That's the part that scares me.
DD977GM2
09-07-2011, 13:09
So, question for the LEO's.....are most LEO's aware that it's legal to OC in CO? I'm scared to death to try it because I'd be the poor dumb bastard that runs into the one cop that thinks NOBODY not in a uniform should be allowed to carry.
I mean, I'd like to try OC, but I don't really want to get beaten down, cuffed and stuffed for it. Just because an act is legal doesn't mean you won't run into a cop that will swear it isn't legal and attempt to "put you under control". That's the part that scares me.
I have OCed a lot in this state, Wyoming, Utah, Montana and the Dakotas and have never encountered this. The few encoutners were posative and one was hilarious when the Sheriff showed up because the Dog Catcher(also part of the Sheriff's office) called in that there was people transfereing firearms in cases to a vehicle. The cop said the gal that called in was ignorant and a transplant. He was very professional and knew exactly what we were doing was 100% legal and said he would have a talk with the gal that called in the "incident"
tmleadr03
09-07-2011, 13:13
I have open carried in this state. But I have a XD40 and usually wear a black shirt when I do. Kinda blends into the back ground. Totally legal but most people don't even notice.
BPTactical
09-07-2011, 13:24
I have open carried in this state. But I have a XD40 and usually wear a black shirt when I do. Kinda blends into the back ground. Totally legal but most people don't even notice.
So I guess my stainless Colt in a russet colored Galco if I am wearing a white shirt would be obvious?[Tooth]
I like the idea of the firearm blending with what you are wearing-subtle is good.
So I guess my stainless Colt in a russet colored Galco if I am wearing a white shirt would be obvious?[Tooth]
I like the idea of the firearm blending with what you are wearing-subtle is good.
You used "russet" in a sentence without the word "potato". Turn in your man card... That's almost as bad as "taupe"...
[LOL]
I ran into someone from Long Island NY and they were scared of the bears in Evergreen. They were wondering what they could use for protecting their kids. I suggested since they are from Long Island they could shake their fists in anger or scream f bombs at the bear. But if they think that is as stupid in their minds as it is in mine get a shot gun with slug rounds. That will teach a bear not to attack your children anymore.
They are everywhere. I think a lesson in shooting will be better than arguing with the idiots. But if all else fails strip all your clothes off except your holster and ride away from them on your horse. Saying "Kiss my ass."
I ran into someone from Long Island NY and they were scared of the bears in Evergreen. They were wondering what they could use for protecting their kids. I suggested since they are from Long Island they could shake their fists in anger or scream f bombs at the bear. But if they think that is as stupid in their minds as it is in mine get a shot gun with slug rounds. That will teach a bear not to attack your children anymore.
They are everywhere. I think a lesson in shooting will be better than arguing with the idiots. But if all else fails strip all your clothes off except your holster and ride away from them on your donkey. Saying "Kiss my ass."
Made it a little funnier.
But serious note, I've lived in Evergreen almost my entire life and have never seen a bear be all that threatening. I guess them easterners coming to the mountains didn't read up on the wildlife. Arguing with idiots is about as useless as a space heater in hell.
I didn't know we were bringing the puns out to play. lol
ETA: I've slept through bears nosing in the trash more than once while staying up there. I don't get out of bed until a window gets broke.
BPTactical
09-07-2011, 14:00
You used "russet" in a sentence without the word "potato". Turn in your man card... That's almost as bad as "taupe"...
[LOL]
Your just jealous cuz yours is "Mauve"
[Coffee]
What language are you "so-called" men using? It sounds like you are cursing in Latin or something?
Byte Stryke
09-07-2011, 14:24
So, question for the LEO's.....are most LEO's aware that it's legal to OC in CO? I'm scared to death to try it because I'd be the poor dumb bastard that runs into the one cop that thinks NOBODY not in a uniform should be allowed to carry.
I mean, I'd like to try OC, but I don't really want to get beaten down, cuffed and stuffed for it. Just because an act is legal doesn't mean you won't run into a cop that will swear it isn't legal and attempt to "put you under control". That's the part that scares me.
see signature
that is all.
Fentonite
09-07-2011, 14:31
see signature
that is all.
Be careful with that. A person who is innocent of any crime can actually be arrested legally. The officer must have probable cause to believe that the arrestee has committed a crime, that's all. It's tough to know what information the cop has when making an arrest. Simply knowing that you are innocent is not enough to justify resisting arrest (at least legally).
Its going to be harder to justify when everything is against the law including resisting arrest.
Byte Stryke
09-07-2011, 14:37
just read the damned cases as listed instead of trying to twist shit up into a Gestapo state argument please.
Thank you
tmleadr03
09-07-2011, 15:59
just read the damned cases as listed instead of trying to twist shit up into a Gestapo state argument please.
Thank you
You need a hug or something? sheesh.[Beer]
I read the cases and I think in the rare case that it describes it will be an affirmative defense to murder and reduce the charges to manslaughter instead.
But cops can get away with anything. You really need to be nice to them or else face the consequences of bullies with a badge.
However, in the rare case of unjustified mass collections of unuseful idiots or undesirables like all of us you better believe the cops are not going to get everyone to cooperate.*
So, question for the LEO's.....are most LEO's aware that it's legal to OC in CO? I'm scared to death to try it because I'd be the poor dumb bastard that runs into the one cop that thinks NOBODY not in a uniform should be allowed to carry.
I mean, I'd like to try OC, but I don't really want to get beaten down, cuffed and stuffed for it. Just because an act is legal doesn't mean you won't run into a cop that will swear it isn't legal and attempt to "put you under control". That's the part that scares me.
in elpaso county the cops ive run into have been cool with it hell out east if your not carrying they look at you funny
BPTactical
09-07-2011, 16:31
What language are you "so-called" men using? It sounds like you are cursing in Latin or something?
C'mon DOC, its only cussing if "Periwinkle", "Chartreuse" or "Persimmon" are used.........
Byte Stryke
09-07-2011, 16:43
C'mon DOC, its only cussing if "Periwinkle", "Chartreuse" or "Persimmon" are used.........
HEY
HEY
HEY
this is a family website and language like that will not be tolerated.
[ROFL1]
C'mon DOC, its only cussing if "Periwinkle", "Chartreuse" or "Persimmon" are used.........
I had to ask my womenz how to pronounce them and what color they closely resembled.
mcantar18c
09-07-2011, 23:11
I had to ask my womenz how to pronounce them and what color they closely resembled.
Those are colors [Eek3]
Those are colors [Eek3]
God damn son, you need some educatin'
5dczpjt5HLo
Byte Stryke
09-07-2011, 23:35
God damn son, you need some educatin'
5dczpjt5HLo
Disney Colors...
every color but Hebrew [ROFL1]
I think this song was originally from this. This is actually pretty funny.
arZRYbtb20M&NR=1
KevDen2005
09-08-2011, 01:31
Oh for the love of God...What did my post turn into?!
I'm with you these guys are nuts. Me included.
jscwerve
09-08-2011, 05:32
Back onto the open carry thing, do you think people would react differently if open carry was done in a slightly different way? Not for everyone, but how about an old school WW2 style holster!
http://www.reww2.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=122
I think it would be interesting to see some reactions to this. Pistol is ALMOST covered up by the holster. Maybe the flap makes it more "idiot friendly".
Thoughts?
Back onto the open carry thing, do you think people would react differently if open carry was done in a slightly different way? Not for everyone, but how about an old school WW2 style holster!
http://www.reww2.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=122
I think it would be interesting to see some reactions to this. Pistol is ALMOST covered up by the holster. Maybe the flap makes it more "idiot friendly".
Thoughts?
I prefer these, much cooler looking. Now if I was only skinny enough to actually wear it......
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/holsters%20and%20grips/sweetheartgrips.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20handguns/049.jpg
Byte Stryke
09-08-2011, 10:01
very cool holster
HBARleatherneck
09-08-2011, 10:06
thats the holster we wore in the Corps. black version.
very cool holster
Nice repro of the standard M3. You can wear it under the armpit or on front, just slide it on your belt to where you want it. I need to lather it up with some leather treatment stuff.
C'mon DOC, its only cussing if "Periwinkle", "Chartreuse" or "Persimmon" are used.........
I'm late to the thread, saw all those colors and had to go bass fishing[ROFL1]
BPTactical
09-08-2011, 10:34
I'm late to the thread, saw all those colors and had to go bass fishing[ROFL1]
[Stooge]
Catch anything?
On the M3- I used one when we would go ATVing and it worked well. I think it was 30.00 at the surplus store and with it being leather I was able to mold it to my XD Tactical. Very secure and didn't flop around.
Really rode well on the chest.
[Stooge]
Catch anything?
On the M3- I used one when we would go ATVing and it worked well. I think it was 30.00 at the surplus store and with it being leather I was able to mold it to my XD Tactical. Very secure and didn't flop around.
Really rode well on the chest.
No, didn't catch a damn fish, forgot and left my "DUSTY ROSE" spinner bait in another tacklebox.[Beer]
I use salmon colored fish eggs.
DOC! Salmon is not a color it's a fawking fish! Gah! Why all these women invented colors. The only colors we need to know come in the small- I'll say it slowly- Ssssmmmmaaaaalllllllah box of Crayons. Periwinkle blue is just a funny line in Snatch, it's not a damn color. And what the hell is few-sha?
Bailey Guns
09-08-2011, 11:58
And what the hell is few-sha?
Sounds like a sistah's name...
KevDen2005
09-08-2011, 12:00
Love that holster, I really would love to have one for my Colt
BPTactical
09-08-2011, 12:03
And what the hell is few-sha?
It's valleygirlnese for more than one.
"I'll have a few, sha????"
Byte Stryke
09-08-2011, 12:29
DOC! Salmon is not a color it's a fawking fish! Gah! Why all these women invented colors. The only colors we need to know come in the small- I'll say it slowly- Ssssmmmmaaaaalllllllah box of Crayons. Periwinkle blue is just a funny line in Snatch, it's not a damn color. And what the hell is few-sha?
wasn't Periwinkle, Bullwinkle's Sister?
http://www.thehatco.com/media/Novelty_Hats/JHats_19726_MI.jpg
now cross that with (NSFW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE&feature=related
[ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]
Le-a is a ghetto name if I've ever heard one.
Can you pronounce it?
Yes, ^^ and fuscia is like a bright purple.
Le-a is a ghetto name if I've ever heard one.
Can you pronounce it?
Its not
le ah
lee ah
le A
Its lu dash ah. The dash isn't silent. lol
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