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punkwood2k
09-07-2011, 14:39
Couple general questions that I cant find clarification for from other sources.. What are your thoughts?
1. Printing your weapon.. Especially during Summer, lighter clothing means that your weapon can be Printed much easier. I'm pretty skinny, so no matter what holster I use (currently a Crossbreed Supertuck deluxe), my weapon seems to Print against my shirts pretty easily. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, because I KNOW its there, but it still worries me.. What are the possible consequences of someone complaining about it, if they see my weapon Printed? Even if it isnt actually exposed, just an outline through my shirt?
2. Also want some clarification regarding the Carry Restrictions in "a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by Federal Law"... I have looked at almost ALL of the various counties info packets, and done many google searches worded many ways.. and I cannot find a definitive answer on where Federal Law prohibits carry? I know the obvious ones like Banks, and Post Offices, Gov offices, but where else?
Thanks![Beer]
Couple general questions that I cant find clarification for from other sources.. What are your thoughts?
1. Printing your weapon.. Especially during Summer, lighter clothing means that your weapon can be Printed much easier. I'm pretty skinny, so no matter what holster I use (currently a Crossbreed Supertuck deluxe), my weapon seems to Print against my shirts pretty easily. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, because I KNOW its there, but it still worries me.. What are the possible consequences of someone complaining about it, if they see my weapon Printed? Even if it isnt actually exposed, just an outline through my shirt?
2. Also want some clarification regarding the Carry Restrictions in "a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by Federal Law"... I have looked at almost ALL of the various counties info packets, and done many google searches worded many ways.. and I cannot find a definitive answer on where Federal Law prohibits carry? I know the obvious ones like Banks, and Post Offices, Gov offices, but where else?
Thanks![Beer]
Banks are not covered under Federal or State law. Federal law would prohibit carry in Post Offices, Federal Offices, prisons, Federal courthouses, and military bases, unless specifically authorized.
Printing is not an issue anywhere open carry is allowed, as long as you are not "brandishing" the firearm or "menacing" anyone. My advice is not to worry about it, as most of the sheeple will either not notice it or ASSume that you are an LEO...
SuperiorDG
09-07-2011, 14:48
1. If you have a CCW who cares if the cops are call to investigate?
2. Banks are not included, but schools K-12 are.
DeusExMachina
09-07-2011, 15:01
99% of people are oblivious. If someone can identify your gun printing under your shirt, chances are they are carrying too. The rest of the time, people will not notice or assume it's a cell phone. If someone asks me, I will tell them it's an insulin pump. No one has asked me in 6 months I've been carrying.
Post office, government offices, schools (I think this is state law) and anywhere that is secured with a metal detector and guards I think. Probably more too.
punkwood2k
09-07-2011, 15:12
Cool... so it doesnt sound as big of an issue as I thought it would be..
What about colleges? I know K-12 is illegal to carry, but I've read sources on both sides of colleges / trade schools, ect. Some say illegal, some dont include it on the restrictions.. but I've never seen anything explicitly say it is okay...?
DeusExMachina
09-07-2011, 15:15
Make sure your clothes are covering the gun and then try to put it from your mind. The more you touch it, adjust it, think about it the more obvious it will be. See my signature. :)
Colleges have their own policies, I don't think it's illegal though?
mcantar18c
09-07-2011, 15:32
1. If you have a CCW who cares if the cops are call to investigate?
2. Banks are not included, but schools K-12 are.
Just out of curiosity, does this apply to private schools as well? Sure they probably have their own rules, but would state/fed laws apply to them?
Make sure your clothes are covering the gun and then try to put it from your mind. The more you touch it, adjust it, think about it the more obvious it will be. See my signature. :)
Colleges have their own policies, I don't think it's illegal though?
+1 on this. I can always spot people that are uncomfortable with their piece... "discreetly" adjusting it, glancing down at the area to check, etc. There was one at Wal Mart last night. Just don't worry about it, act normal, and you'll be fine.
On the subject of where you can/can't carry...
My rule is no metal detectors/pat downs = carry. So most fed. buildings, courthouses, etc. are a no-go, but other than that, I've got my gun on me. In metal detector/pat down places I carry other, more discreet weapons.
SuperiorDG
09-07-2011, 15:40
FYI: A tie die tee shirt works great too break up the outline and also no one would ever suspect a hippie would have a gun. I carry my G22 this way all the time, never had a problem.
punkwood2k
09-07-2011, 15:56
FYI: A tie die tee shirt works great too break up the outline and also no one would ever suspect a hippie would have a gun. I carry my G22 this way all the time, never had a problem.
[Beer] If I did that, I'd have to kick my own @$$, and I dont think that qualifies as self-defense... [Tooth]
FYI: A tie die tee shirt works great too break up the outline and also no one would ever suspect a hippie would have a gun. I carry my G22 this way all the time, never had a problem.
I didn't see a Save Tibet sticker on your truck so I didn't ask haha! I prefer plaid/flannel shirts.
I didn't see a Save Tibet sticker on your truck so I didn't ask haha! I prefer plaid/flannel shirts.
http://rlv.zcache.com/free_tibet_tshirt-p235739933027564684uvpp_400.jpg
blacklabel
09-07-2011, 16:07
Colleges have their own policies, I don't think
it's illegal though?
It's not against state law but they can restrict it through their own policies. There's no legal ramifications (unless you refuse to remove yourself from the campus grounds) but they can expel a student or ask a non-student to leave.
LOL! That's right it's 'Free' Tibet; been a while since I've been through Boulder.
BPTactical
09-07-2011, 16:56
I personally really don't worry about printing. I am pretty skinny yet I am able to carry a full size 1911 without issue.
The one time somebody spotted it-my T shirt rode up a bit and exposed the muzzle. The chick in line behind me asked me if I was a cop. I asked her "why, did you do something wrong?"
Now if somebody asks if it is a firearm I will tell them the truth.
As far as where you can and where you can't: in Colorado a private entity/property has the right to forbid firearms on their property.
SideShow Bob
09-07-2011, 17:10
If you are a skinny dude, just buy a few cheap fluffy boy summer shirts for cover garments to help you get over the "my gun is printing phobia".
SuperiorDG
09-07-2011, 17:17
I didn't see a Save Tibet sticker on your truck so I didn't ask haha! I prefer plaid/flannel shirts.
Some of you think I was kidding about the tie die, Mike knows better.
Scanker19
09-07-2011, 21:07
I though Post Offices were not "federal" as they received no federal funding? They don't have signs.
Uhm, there is a list of gun-laws up at RMGO website, so not sure but here is a link:
http://www.rmgo.org/gun-law-faqs
I though Post Offices were not "federal" as they received no federal funding? They don't have signs.
Post office by my house has a sign.
I have an abnormally long torso so finding shirts that are long enough is an issue. I jsut try and keep my bending over or kneeling to an minimum. i also have to carry at 4:30 for comfort
99% of people are oblivious. If someone can identify your gun printing under your shirt, chances are they are carrying too. The rest of the time, people will not notice or assume it's a cell phone. If someone asks me, I will tell them it's an insulin pump.
BPTactical
09-08-2011, 18:51
Printing isn't a problem but my cursive really sucks...........
Sorry-I just had to[LOL]
I prefer plaid/flannel shirts.
Yep, this ^^
Plus I'm a fat dude so I have lumps and bumps all over me anyway.
DANGERTASTIC!
09-08-2011, 20:15
I can always spot people that are uncomfortable with their piece... "discreetly" adjusting it, .
My girlfriend always makes sure my shirt is pulled down over mine lol. Its awesome, if she puts her arm around me and my shirt moves even a little, she grabs it and pulls it down hahaha.
She got mah back!
tarantula
09-22-2011, 08:34
I don't believe that it will cause a problem most of the time... It is that tenth of a percent where it will that you have to worry about.
You could avoid the issue all together and open carry! [Beer]
Open Carry
I wouldn't recommend that in the metro Denver area, not unless you have a few extra days to spend fighting them on the issue.
BlasterBob
09-27-2011, 18:11
in Colorado a private entity/property has the right to forbid firearms on their property.
Sounds like I can insist a LEO to NOT bring his firearm past the front gate of my property.[Coffee]
ronaldrwl
09-27-2011, 18:23
Federal law would prohibit carry in Post Offices, Federal Offices
Post Office is not a included. Is not a federal office. Unless a sign is posted saying otherwise you can carry there.
claimbuster
09-28-2011, 00:04
Printing isn't a problem but my cursive really sucks...........
Sorry-I just had to[LOL]
Baaaaaaaaaaad!
claimbuster
09-28-2011, 00:10
To keep going, what about State property? Today I attended a meeting at a State agency that houses in a leased building that also houses some parts of CBI.
Prior to entering I had already decided to leave "empy" in the car. I did not see any signs, metal detectors, etc; however, I did have to sign in and get a visitor's badge.
???????
SonOfTheGriz
10-11-2011, 00:13
My wife's the same way... she's not only OK with me carrying, but makes sure my cover garments are working and isn't afraid to tell me when it ain't.
She always qualifies it with "well, I KNOW what I'm looking for" and I have to keep telling her "If you don't see it on first glance, most of the sheep out there will never know..."
It's good to have an SO that literally has your back :-)
Want to play a fun game? "Spot the CCW guy" is a BLAST, especially in places like Wal-Mart or the local coffee shop. A couple favorites...
* the guy who's a "L" shirt with a bit of a gut wearing a 3XL button-up shirt almost down to his knees -- bends over at the waist to show everyone the butt of his gun tenting obscenely at his 4:00
* the obvious civilian bedecked in every piece of 5.11 apparel he could get his hands on -- all in matching tan -- obviously trying to conceal a "duty" holster under a tactical vest or "tactical" button-down shirt. You don't even need to see the gun... just look for the 5.11 tag on the right cargo pocket. If he's in shape and has a short haircut, probably a cop. If he's 20 pounds overweight and nervously checking out everyone who walks in the room, it's a safe bet his CHP hasn't even cooled off yet.
My girlfriend always makes sure my shirt is pulled down over mine lol. Its awesome, if she puts her arm around me and my shirt moves even a little, she grabs it and pulls it down hahaha.
She got mah back!
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