View Full Version : my how things have changed
so i was looking around colorado and thinking where did all this crap come from .when i was a kid there was no asmusement park downtown , no light rail , coors pavilion was called fiddlers green , the forney museum was where rei is , places like the tech center and broomfield were open prairie , mork form ork still lived in boulder , we had no baseball team , the broncos always went to the superbowl but never won , the peoples fair was at east high school and was not gay , the dreaded brown cloud was a topic on the news all the time and you could go in the hills without running into trash every 5 feet.
maybe some of you remember the way things were before colorado was over run by texans , new yorkers and those silly cali people .
Yes they have, some things are better (tech firms coming here which is good for me) and some things are worse (more litterers, a-holz, and liberals).
Robby30-06
09-09-2011, 07:10
When i was a boy i learned to ride my dirt bike where Highlands Ranch is. We lived in Littleton and when we went south of County Line Rd. there was nothing but open range all the way to Castle Rock......which was waaayy out there in the sticks. It's really quite depressing sometimes.
Also seems like when i go hunting i do more picking up trash than i do anything else, so yeah i'm with ya.
Robby30-06
09-09-2011, 07:18
Oh yeah and i learned to shoot a Rossi pump .22 about 50 yds from Arapahoe Rd. in the creek bed near Parker Rd. and Arapahoe Rd. (can you imagine that happening now?)
Great-Kazoo
09-09-2011, 07:20
well i'm from NY and i remember in the early 80's up till about16-17 years ago there was no litter on any roadway including 25
Denver at one time ended at cherry creek dam, i could drive over to the IH dealer on alameda from belleview and broadway in 20 minutes. At one time i could eat at Sambo's without it being politically incorrect. We use to shoot FA guns out at tower and I-70. There was a killer chinese place at the vfw hall in denver, the gothic was actually open for things besides concerts and the little chinese place just south of there served mega plates for cheap. El Tepehuan mexican joint on broadway just north of hampden (285) has good lunch deals. The rainbow theater on evans was a rocking place for concerts, saw the very last show before it was bulldozed down, which Warren Zevon did and rocked as usual.
I at one time commuted from littleton to ft collins before moving up north and you could eat anywhere in ft fun without someone staring at you. The eateries were always a mixed crowd of hippies, bikers, rednecks and college students. You could go from the north side of ft fun to loveland in 30 min or less. Now you are lucky to go from jefferson to harmony in 30 minutes
Where we moved to Windsor there were less than 6K people and 2 stop lights , now 10 lights from my house to 25 and it hovers somewhere around 21K!. You could also shoot 5 minutes E,W,N or south of town w/out anyone saying anything or calling the law.
Oh yeah at one time you had to jump through some hoops to get a CCW from the sheriff AND the display of your permit allowed you to by pass a Bg check when buying a gun. You could also do a casual transaction at any gun show w/out a BG check
Oh yeah, Aurora ended at quincy rd, smokey hill and tower were like wadsworth unpaved
Oh yeah and i learned to shoot a Rossi pump .22 about 50 yds from Arapahoe Rd. in the creek bed near Parker Rd. and Arapahoe Rd. (can you imagine that happening now?) my favorite place to hang out as a teenager (an abandon factory) is now condos .
Byte Stryke
09-09-2011, 10:30
I used to go ride bikes and play in Eastern Aurora and in Mission Veijo... that is now western aurora?
yer all getting old. Live with it.
We used to hunt pheasant along Cherry Creek through Parker. Try that now.
Big Wall
09-09-2011, 12:58
I had a teacher in high school who said he would hunt for deer at Bowles & Santa Fe.
I use to ride motorcycles along Sante Fe near Evans on the weekend when the companies were closed. Its light rail now.
they can call it what they want and change it every few years, don't matter to me.
I call them fiddler's green, elitches, and mile high.
BushMasterBoy
09-09-2011, 14:36
I marched to class in the cold and snow while stationed at Lowry AFB. Now it is some kind of civilian community. Houses so expensive I couldn't afford to buy one. Kind of a shame really, but at least the Cold War is over.
My dad was discharged from the Army Air Corps in 1946 from Lowry Field...the edge of town...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lowryfield-1945.jpg
My sister graduated from Big Red (If you know the Monument area, you know what I am talking about). I hit the big time with 150 in my Lewis Palmer graduating class; now there are several hundred per grade in two high schools. I don't recognize much down there anymore. Mt Herman was once a clean, quiet, courteous, and respectable place to get away, camp, and shoot. NOT anymore!
Both my sister and brother went to the western slope to escape the population storm and all the BS on the front range. I sure envy them at times. My 58 year old sister can't really come to Denver anymore because the crowds bother her too much. She just stays on her cattle ranch and enjoys the simple life.
There isn't much recognizable from the springs to Longmont; its all pretty frustrating. The 285 mountain towns aren't bad, but the simple, easy going, patient lifestyle of years past are all GONE!
I marched to class in the cold and snow while stationed at Lowry AFB. Now it is some kind of civilian community. Houses so expensive I couldn't afford to buy one. Kind of a shame really, but at least the Cold War is over.
My father was discharged there when he came back from the Pacific. He taught B29 Bombing in the early 50s at Lowry.
Byte Stryke
09-09-2011, 14:53
Welcome to Califordo
Big Wall
09-09-2011, 16:00
they can call it what they want and change it every few years, don't matter to me.
I call them fiddler's green, elitches, and mile high.
Same here!
Welcome to Califordo
damn byte thats messed up [ROFL1]
maybe some of you remember the way things were before colorado was over run by texans , new yorkers and those silly cali people .
Hmm... hasn't really changed much around here since I got there from Texas about 12 years ago. [Coffee]
I am waiting for the day when they run that light rail thing up to the north side of town so I can take it downtown for dinner and ball games and stuff. [Beer]
BlasterBob
09-10-2011, 06:38
At least Trinidad has not changed much, got smaller if ANY change.
At least Trinidad has not changed much, got smaller if ANY change.
Oh, I think there have been quite a few "changes" in Trinidad over the years, if you know what I mean. [Coffee]
I've been here since 1970
still better than lots of places...but not as good as it was :(
thanks libtards for messing it all up! [Mad]
BPTactical
09-10-2011, 07:35
I am waiting for the day when they run that light rail thing up to the north side of town so I can take it downtown for dinner and ball games and stuff. [Beer]
I hate you for saying that Ray-ever notice the rail line right behind my place?
Yup- that's the rail line for FasTracks.
May it never be funded.
I remember going to a couple of my dads clients spreads to treat their horses. Those spreads are now under 60' of water- Chatfield Resevoir.
County Line road was a 2 lane roller coaster.
Drive in theaters were at the 4 points of the compass.
Centennial Racetrack.
We used to ride our bikes to the end of Bowles Avenue, lift the bikes over the fence and hike up over the Hogback and camp all weekend. Never locked the bikes and they were always there when we got back.
Colorado Rockies WERE here. Only there was no Dante Bichett or Larry Walker, more like Lanny MacDonald and Crazy George.
Flood of '65- we had close to 300 horses on 5 acres of land-people from Centennial Racetrack hauled them up to our place, we were on the high ground.
A drive to Parker was an adventure and I think I probably shot at the same sand bank previously mentioned at Arapahoe and Parker.
I can remember my dad saying that someday it would be solid houses from Fort Collins to Colorado Springs. We thought he was nuts.
12.00 lift tickets at Loveland Basin.
Getting busted with a 6 inch switchblade by a Littleton cop, only to have him snap the blade off, hand it back to me and tell me "Now you can't hurt yourself with it".
Cinderella City was THE MALL.
Keg parties at C-470 and the Platte (no, a 67 Mustang will not ford a river).
Watching Columbine High get built and my mom going to work there when it opened. She retired from there in 96.
Littleton Airport at Kipling and Coal Mine.
Rocket motor testing at Martin Marietta. The roar was awesome.
Building a muzzle loader for my Industrial Arts class at Heritage High the first year it opened.
Christ I'm old............................................... ..
Delfuego
09-10-2011, 09:40
At least Trinidad has not changed much,Come on now... Trinidad changes thing every day! Boy into girls and vice versa [Flower]
Holger Danske
09-10-2011, 15:56
Grew up in Glenwood Springs. The western slope has changed a lot too. We didn't get to Denver much, but I remember in 76 the Nuggets we giving Red, White and Blue commerative basketballs to the the first 100 kids in the door at home games. I begged my dad to go so I could get one. No dice. He wasn't driving to Denver and back just to watch a game. That, and we used to go to Stapleton airport.
race4hills
09-10-2011, 17:30
I can remeber Lakeside shoping center, then Lakeside Mall and and now Lakeside dirt lot. Most all the race tracks we use to race at are gone Englewood speedway, Centrury 21, CDR, Lakeside and a few down in Colorado Springs. I worked across the street from Elitches for 9 years, left Denver for 10 years (lived in Walden for 7yrs and Montrose for 3) and when I came back to work at the same place, Elitches had moved at and housing and stores were in it's place.
BlasterBob
09-10-2011, 20:04
The Doc who made most of the referred to "changes" down in Trinidad died a couple/few years ago and his replacement recently moved out to greener pastures (San Francisco)[Tooth]
Now anyone planning on going down to Trinidad for a little "change" can just forget about it or make a little trek out to San Fran.
DD977GM2
09-11-2011, 00:23
Oh, I think there have been quite a few "changes" in Trinidad over the years, if you know what I mean. [Coffee]
[ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3][LOL]
DD977GM2
09-11-2011, 00:27
BPTac
I graduated from Heritage in 96 and my Daughter started her Freshmen year there this year. It has sure changed in 15 years since I was there even.
maybe some of you remember the way things were before colorado was over run by Texans , new yorkers and those silly cali people .
What's that supposed to imply?
Big Wall
09-11-2011, 15:16
BPTac
I graduated from Heritage in 96 and my Daughter started her Freshmen year there this year. It has sure changed in 15 years since I was there even.
I graduated from Heritage in '87. I haven't been back there yet, but my son started school at Goddard Middle School last year. It's changed quite a bit since '82. It was strange to think that a teacher could have started teaching there after I left, worked their entire career there and have retired since I went to school there.
BPTactical
09-11-2011, 15:28
I graduated from Heritage in '87. I haven't been back there yet, but my son started school at Goddard Middle School last year. It's changed quite a bit since '82. It was strange to think that a teacher could have started teaching there after I left, worked their entire career there and have retired since I went to school there.
That's funny-I went to Goddard Middle myself 74-76 IIRC. Skateboarding down the "Berry Hill"-suicide mission!
I had Roller Skating as an elective class when Skate City first opened, every Tuesday and Thursday we walked down the hill and through the fields to the rink.
Byte Stryke
09-11-2011, 19:36
Shopping at northglenn mall
[Tooth]
Colorado Luckydog
09-11-2011, 19:51
Alxone, you're my friend but this is a whiney ass thread. You natives will sit around and bitch about Texans and Californians moving in but you would just sit by and let every fucking wetback move in and not say a word. Not only would you not say a word, you would give them the keys to the State.
You guys should be happy about the Texans and Californians that are here, without them Colorado would be just one big fucking wortheless ass Boulder.
If Texas and California had not brought the money in that they brought, do you guys have any idea how bad this recession would have been? Colorado had it very easy through all of this because of the very things you guys are bitching about.
What's that supposed to imply?
what are you feeling guilty ????[ROFL1]
This thread has taken a tone.
I'm a native, I like conservative imports. Unfortunately the imports I like are outnumbered 5 to 1 if you count the 3rd world shithole illegals.
Big Wall
09-11-2011, 20:34
Skateboarding down the "Berry Hill"-suicide mission!
Wow! What did you do at the end of the hill?
Where I lived in Oregon we had a hill like Berry hill, except about 3 times longer with a decent tail out at the bottom. One of the guys on our street decided to ride his bike down it one day. He didn't tell anyone he was going. Someone found him in the ditch on the side of the road unconscious and beat to hell after he wrecked his bike.
what are you feeling guilty ????[ROFL1]
I'm not guilty of a damned thing.
I spent 9 months in Colorado and paid state taxes to CO, even though I'm not a resident. I also spent ~$30k of my hard earned money that went into businesses that supported the local economy.
The whole time I was there people sneered at me when they heard my Southern drawl, or saw my Texas plates. I say 'yes, ma'am', 'no, sir', open doors for women, help people on the side of the road change their tires and a smile at strangers. More people got pulled out of ditches between Denver and Leadville by my dually than I can count.
When someone implies Colorado is going to shit because of me, sorry, but I'm going to correct them.
The good old days are gone and the future is what you make of it. Do something about it, or STFU.
Colorado Luckydog
09-11-2011, 21:46
Yes they have, some things are better (tech firms coming here which is good for me) and some things are worse (more litterers, a-holz, and liberals).
You are so right. Here is where it took a tone. (second post of the thread)
mjbealer
09-11-2011, 21:49
When someone implies Colorado is going to shit because of me, sorry, but I'm going to correct them.
The good old days are gone and the future is what you make of it. Do something about it, or STFU.
I agree, but sometimes It is nice to thinly about how things were when we were young. I learned to shoot where flatirons mall is now. It was a good time shooting prairie dogs with a 10/22 with a 50rd magazine.
Things are different everywhere. Everyone has great memories of when they were kids. that is tje way It should be. I hope my children have those same types of feelings when they have grown up.
I'm not guilty of a damned thing.
I spent 9 months in Colorado and paid state taxes to CO, even though I'm not a resident. I also spent ~$30k of my hard earned money that went into businesses that supported the local economy.
The whole time I was there people sneered at me when they heard my Southern drawl, or saw my Texas plates. I say 'yes, ma'am', 'no, sir', open doors for women, help people on the side of the road change their tires and a smile at strangers. More people got pulled out of ditches between Denver and Leadville by my dually than I can count.
When someone implies Colorado is going to shit because of me, sorry, but I'm going to correct them.
The good old days are gone and the future is what you make of it. Do something about it, or STFU.[Shake]so what your saying is instead of realizing that im talking about the booze swilling while shooting , cut you off on the road for no reason , self entitled litter bugs ... wait never mind you have already stated that you felt im talking about you personally . so if you feel like your one of the people im talking about then thats on you .honestly i had no idea you even existed until this thread. also i do something about it all the time so telling me to stfu is way out of line considering i was trying to be lighthearted with you and you took it way too personally . sorry you feel personally attacked .
yep im over it
so i took a drive up 83 and what used to be beautiful open prairie is now mc mansions hell .
You are so right. Here is where it took a tone. (second post of the thread)
Yeah right. You're reading too much into my post but whatever dude.
brokenscout
09-12-2011, 08:19
Your just old[Beer]
BlasterBob
09-12-2011, 09:52
Your just old[Beer]
Well, what the hell is wrong with being "old"??[ROFL1]
brokenscout
09-12-2011, 10:06
Well, what the hell is wrong with being "old"??[ROFL1]
Youth is wasted on the young, can't remimber who said it ,but its true
Well, what the hell is wrong with being "old"??[ROFL1]
Beats the hell out of the alternative don't it Bob.[Beer]
BPTactical
09-12-2011, 10:28
My post was nothing more than a reflection of youth, no "hatefulness" implied or intended. I do however understand how natives over say 30 have some animosity to "Transplants".
We have watched as our state has turned into the very thing a lot of the "Transplants" escaped from.
Take my tongue in cheek statement where I told Ray1970 that I "hate" him- he can't wait for the northern end of FasTracks to go live so he can hop on the rail and head downtown. I would love to make "Shermans Neckties" from the rails, they are 75' from my back fence. I don't want light rail, subways or any other crap like that anywhere near me. That's what Chicago, Boston and New York are there for as far as I'm concerned.
Colorado had always been a very conservative state. In the last 20 years we have seen Denver turn into the 3rd most "gay friendly" city only surpassed by San Fran and NYC. We have seen agricultural and livestock ways of life die a slow death, only to see it replaced by "urban sprawl".
Take the last Governors election for instance: when you broke down the results by counties it was quite revealing. Naturally the front range with Boulder and Denver went D but it was quite surprising the mountain regions and San Luis Valley- all D.
What was a very conservative state has now become a liberal bastion.
I understand the downfall of agriculture and livestock-this has happened nation wide- sign O the times I guess.
Maybe the rest is a sign O the times as well.
I generally don't mind the Texicans too much, kinda nice to hear a friendly drawl once in a while.
Your just old[Beer]im not old im seasoned [Tooth]
im not old im seasoned [Tooth]
With what? Cayenne and paprika? BBQ! [ROFL2]
[Shake]so what your saying is instead of realizing that im talking about the booze swilling while shooting , cut you off on the road for no reason , self entitled litter bugs ... wait never mind you have already stated that you felt im talking about you personally.
How would I realize that if I didn't know those problems existed?
That's why my first response was to ask WTF you were talking about. I've never personally heard of Texans going to Colorado to get drunk, discharge firearms, cut people off, or dump trash, much less enough of them doing it to make that kind of generalization.
Until you explained it further, you were talking about me personally. I'm from Texas, you were attacking Texans. Gee, silly me for getting offended.
so if you feel like your one of the people im talking about then thats on you .honestly i had no idea you even existed until this thread.
None of the above MO's pertain to me, so you weren't talking about me. Well, there is roughly 25 million of us in Texas, so I'd say your chances are pretty good you're going to throw that kind of trash talk about in front of a Texan a time or two.
Just like your signature says; if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough.
also i do something about it all the time so telling me to stfu is way out of line considering i was trying to be lighthearted with you and you took it way too personally.
I said you can do something about it, or STFU. Since you actually do something about it, it doesn't pertain to you and if you feel offended that's on you, right?
sorry you feel personally attacked.
Is that supposed to be an apology?
No matter where you live, it's going to change whether you like it or not. The area I grew up in has turned into a shithole, so I moved an hour outside of town. The houses in my neighborhood are far enough from town and expensive enough that I don't have to worry about trash moving in for a good while.
Now if we could only get rid of those God damned winter Texans with Colorado license plates and Obama stickers... [LOL]
How would I realize that if I didn't know those problems existed?
That's why my first response was to ask WTF you were talking about. I've never personally heard of Texans going to Colorado to get drunk, discharge firearms, cut people off, or dump trash, much less enough of them doing it to make that kind of generalization.
i really am out at the ranges (open space nat forest ) and yes i speak from first hand experience and if you will notice i also included cali and new york .
[/quote]Until you explained it further, you were talking about me personally. I'm from Texas, you were attacking Texans. Gee, silly me for getting offended. [/quote]
i dont get offened when people make general statments about the ghetto/hood but yet thats where im from . i know when people trash talk about the inner city they probably are not talking about me unless they call me by name . notice colorado lucky dog is from texas and is not jumping my on my sh*t about it . i would assume thats because he knows he is not guilty and that im not talking about responsible out of staters .
[/quote] None of the above MO's pertain to me, so you weren't talking about me. Well, there is roughly 25 million of us in Texas, so I'd say your chances are pretty good you're going to throw that kind of trash talk about in front of a Texan a time or two.
Just like your signature says; if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough. [/quote]
believe me im not too worried about . you dont get to be this good looking by not taking a punch to the grill [Abused]
[/quote]I said you can do something abbutout it, or STFU. Since you actually do something about it, it doesn't pertain to you and if you feel offended that's on you, right? [/quote]
you got upset about a general statement i made while your statement was directed towards me personally
[/quote]Is that supposed to be an apology? [/quote]
yep ,thats about as good as it gets
[/quote] No matter where you live, it's going to change whether you like it or not. The area I grew up in has turned into a shithole, so I moved an hour outside of town. The houses in my neighborhood are far enough from town and expensive enough that I don't have to worry about trash moving in for a good while. [/quote]
and now we get to the original thread topic witch was , this thing was this and now its this other thing .
example
every time they tear down a house they build 4-6 ikea east german modern looking piece of crap condos in its place .
the rail yard downtown used to be huge now its much much smaller . now its more condos .
as a kid i played in the hills and fields where ther are now malls and mc mansions , track housing hell ... i think you get the point .
and who remembers the denver zephers , old mile high stadium (pretty frikin cool ) , 93 riots , the grand prix
i hope that clears it up and you stop trolling for an argument where there is none to be had
I like Texans more than any other state. They can appreciate Colorado and assimilate here better than say a UCLA lifer that has never worked a day in their lives.
Their women know how to take a punch. Gotta love that.
I kid. I don't hit women.
im not old im seasoned [Tooth]
As the Great Dr. Jones once said. "Its not the years. Its the mileage."
Byte Stryke
09-13-2011, 11:42
I like Texans more than any other state. They can appreciate Colorado and assimilate here better than say a UCLA lifer that has never worked a day in their lives.
Their women know how to take a punch. Gotta love that.
I kid. I don't hit women.
I Like ta wrastle 'em though :)
Outlaw1, I Have a question:
you said you were here for 9 months paying into the economy, etc etc..
Much appreciated.
Why didn't you get your CO Plates?
BlasterBob
09-14-2011, 11:03
Beats the hell out of the alternative don't it Bob.[Beer]
You bet it does. I am NOT anxious to push up the sod.[Beer]
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