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SouthPaw
09-12-2011, 13:46
Do these really make a noticiable difference? I have read a few reviews on them and look around but was wondering they were really worth it? Any companies better than others? Would rather hear your guys' opinion.
bobbyfairbanks
09-12-2011, 13:51
Yes once you put one in your glock you will swear it is a new gun
I had one put in my model 20 but didn't notice any precievable difference, In fact when the armor removed the original, we compared them and other than the marking they appeared identical. It could be a difference in metal composition. I can't say for sure.
Not_A_Llama
09-12-2011, 14:10
I like mine. It's some difference. Some people say it increases mushiness and makes the reset less distinct. If you're one of those people, try adding a NY1 spring with the 3.5 - weight goes back up to ~stock, but becomes much more distinct in its stages.
I had one put in my model 20 but didn't notice any precievable difference, In fact when the armor removed the original, we compared them and other than the marking they appeared identical. It could be a difference in metal composition. I can't say for sure.
The difference is in the angle at which they contact the trigger bar. It is possible that you may have an incorrectly market unit.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsysYKXsn3sTLBejftR7PtBzRP0naAl IydLyjI5SjBiDdLbJyi
Once installed, the lighter connector makes a huge difference in your trigger pull. Since the pistol has to be disassembled to install the new part, take this opportunity to do a ".25 Cent" trigger job. It's well worth it!!
The Glock OEM part is fine. Avoid the Scherer connector like the plague!!
If you are a little bit more adventurous, I would recommend that you go with the Ghost Rocket 3.5 and fit the over-travel stop tab. It's really easy to do and it shouldn't take you more than 20 or 30 minutes to do it.
http://www.mwgco.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Glock_Ghost-Rocket-Trigger.jpg
DANGERTASTIC!
09-12-2011, 14:16
3.5lb Trigger is WAY too light in a defensive pistol. IMO.
A guy I know put one in, it was scary light. No way in HELL would I bring something like that around my family.
If it was for comp. would be nice though
3.5lb Trigger is WAY too light in a defensive pistol. IMO.
A guy I know put one in, it was scary light. No way in HELL would I bring something like that around my family.
If it was for comp. would be nice though
I have a few LEO friends that use them in their duty guns. It's really not that light. If you don't change the trigger and striker springs, it is about 4.5 lbs.
bobbyfairbanks
09-12-2011, 14:19
3.5lb Trigger is WAY too light in a defensive pistol. IMO.
A guy I know put one in, it was scary light. No way in HELL would I bring something like that around my family.
If it was for comp. would be nice though
Ya and if you breath on it it just magically goes off.[Bang]
They aren't any more dangerous then when they came stock.
3.5lb Trigger is WAY too light in a defensive pistol. IMO.
A guy I know put one in, it was scary light. No way in HELL would I bring something like that around my family.
If it was for comp. would be nice though
I have a ny trigger spring with the 3.5lb disconnector made all the difference in the world from just the NY trigger I am very happy with it.
SA Friday
09-12-2011, 15:51
I've found all the aftermarket 3.5 disconnectors really mute the reset "click", and prefer the oem one. I've found a few of the aftermarkets to not fit correctly and I had to cut the disconnector side channel a little wider to get them to work too. Leave the springs at factory levels and a nice polish job, you will feel a big difference and it will break at about r lbs give or take a half lb.
I like to round out the edges on the safety plunger and then polish it too. You get rid of the "ride over the edges" feel in the trigger pull when you do this. Just go light on how much material you take off and keep as much of the top diameter on the plunger to avoid having it get caught up in the striker during firing.
SA Friday
09-12-2011, 15:54
I've found all the aftermarket 3.5 disconnectors really mute the reset "click", and prefer the oem one. I've found a few of the aftermarkets to not fit correctly and I had to cut the disconnector side channel a little wider to get them to work too. Leave the springs at factory levels and a nice polish job, you will feel a big difference and it will break at about 4 lbs give or take a half lb.
I like to round out the edges on the safety plunger and then polish it too. You get rid of the "ride over the edges" feel in the trigger pull when you do this. Just go light on how much material you take off and keep as much of the top diameter on the plunger to avoid having it get caught up in the striker during firing.
SouthPaw
09-12-2011, 16:41
Great info guys. I have never seen a used for sale so it made me think either one they were so nice no one wanted to sell them or there peices of junk and everyone threw them away after they were installed[LOL].
Maybe I'll have to ask around and see if anyone has one installed and see if they will let me run some rounds through it.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
09-13-2011, 15:59
i have the ghost rocket 3.5 in mine and i love it it is definatly not a 3.5 pull maybe more like 4 or 4.5 but it breaks a hell of alot better then the other junk that was in there
Fist_gonzo
09-13-2011, 17:46
The connector alone wont give you 3.5, glock is now labeling them as 4.5, I use them with a reduced stryker spring for a 3.5, I use a zev (glockworx) 2.5 disconnector with springs on my race gun, that set up would not be a great idea for carry or duty.
Bailey Guns
09-13-2011, 18:02
I like the NY 8# trigger with the OEM 3.5 disconnector, too. Makes for a REALLY positive trigger reset.
DANGERTASTIC!
09-13-2011, 18:10
Ya and if you breath on it it just magically goes off.[Bang]
They aren't any more dangerous then when they came stock.
A 3.5lb trigger is not more dangerous? What about under a high stress situation when people flinch or squeeze too hard.
Theres probably a reason they arent issued nationwide.
And who the hell said anything about breathing on them or stupid shit like that?
Im at the range twice a week...Im not your typical once a year shooter and I have used plenty of light triggers.
I wasnt even addressing you so you can keep your smartass comments to yourself
A 3.5lb trigger is not more dangerous?
I know that you didn't address your reply at me but I would like the opportunity to clarify the issue.
Glock reviewed the name they give their connector a few years ago and now calls it a 4.5 lb which is closer to the pull weight of the trigger. Like I mentioned earlier, if the trigger and striker springs are left untouched, the shooter is only dropping the weight of the trigger by one pound.
SouthPaw
09-13-2011, 23:18
I might give this a go. I have G17 that I wanted to start shooting comp with and maybe it will help. I guess the only way to truly try it is to buy, install it, and shoot it.
El Caballo Loco
09-13-2011, 23:22
If you were closer I would let you give my G17 a go.
Wolf spring pack
Factory reset spring
3.5lb connector
Vickers mag release
Extended slide release
Shoots like a dream.
SouthPaw
09-14-2011, 09:31
If you were closer I would let you give my G17 a go.
Wolf spring pack
Factory reset spring
3.5lb connector
Vickers mag release
Extended slide release
Shoots like a dream.
Did you do the work yourself? Maybe if I ever make it up there might have to get in contact with ya [Beer]. Thanks for the offer!
El Caballo Loco
09-14-2011, 09:57
Did you do the work yourself? Maybe if I ever make it up there might have to get in contact with ya [Beer]. Thanks for the offer!
Yup, did it myself. It's easy enough that I kept all the factory parts and could probably change it back in 5 minutes or so.
SouthPaw
09-14-2011, 13:08
Might have to look into this
A 3.5lb trigger is not more dangerous? What about under a high stress situation when people flinch or squeeze too hard.
Theres probably a reason they arent issued nationwide.
And who the hell said anything about breathing on them or stupid shit like that?
Im at the range twice a week...Im not your typical once a year shooter and I have used plenty of light triggers.
I wasnt even addressing you so you can keep your smartass comments to yourself
I have the 3.5 connector in my Glock 23 - and I have completed hundreds of holster draws and shooting under stress and never had any issues. If you are properly trained to keep your damn finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you are prepared to shoot...then you should not have a problem. Think about the guys (even me on occassion) who carry a 1911. Those triggers have a significantly shorter travel than Glock and there are plenty of us using those for CC. It all comes down to propert training and discipline. The lighter trigger only makes you more prone to accidents if you are wreckless.
I too have had a 3.5 Lb connector in my Glocks for years now, along with the Wolff Trigger Group Competition Spring Kit (4lb. reduced power striker spring, reduced power safety block spring, and extra power trigger spring) and have never had any problems, but boy are my triggers better than standard Glocks. People who handle them can't believe how much better they are.
As for having the gun go off due to people "squeezing too hard under high stress situations" I gotta say that's just poor training. Your finger should NEVER be on the trigger till you're on target, sure of your target, and ready to fire.
Colorado_Outback
10-20-2011, 10:52
Picked up a G36 that had the NY1 trigger, I didn't hate it but I shot it a little low when double tapping or shooting fast.
Installed a Glock 3.5lb connector last night and it feels a lot better that just the NY1 by itself. Cant wait to put some lead down range this weekend!
leatherneck448
10-20-2011, 11:59
I had an NY1 connector (consistent 8# break) in my glock 17 when I bought it. About 3 weeks later I threw a ghost ultimate 3.5 connector in it (didnt touch any springs), and it now breaks at 3.5-4 pounds all day long. Completely changed the feel of the gun. I've never carried it on a daily basis, but it hasnt given me fits so far, and I doubt it will in the future. The lightened pull does take some getting used to, but I got used to it after 150-200 draw strokes.
In terms of the lighter connector being "unsafe for carry", I'ts the user that makes the gun unsafe, not the parts in it. If you have a negligent discharge with a lighter connector, you have to ask yourself, "would those 2 extra pounds from a stock connector have stopped this from happening?". Frankly, if you have your finger on the trigger before you have the gun on target, it's on you the operator, not the weapon.
Its like if I was to go from driving a geo metro to a new zr1 vette. Can it be dangerous if im reckless? yes. Is it dangerous if I use it in a safe, sensible manner? no.
Circuits
10-20-2011, 12:59
+1 to 3.5# and NY1 spring. I do this to ALL of my Glocks.
+1 to 3.5#
I agree, Have never really been a "Glock Guy" before. I picked up a 17 in a trade a few months ago, liked it and it shot well. I didnt realize it had a 3.5#, so I bought one to install and just kept it. Last week I bought a 19 and put the 3.5 in it, takes like three minutes... I love it, shoots great.
So my feelings are, I just couldnt get on the factory Glock trigger, but the 3.5, which is closer to a 4.0-4.5 with alot better reset also. Is sweet IMHO
If you guys like what you've done so far, try a fulcrum set up. I felt dirty spending so much on a Glock, but MAN. I put it on my hunting 10mm and not quite as good as a 3 pound 1911 trigger, but still the best Glock trigger I've ever felt. And now the trigger is aluminum.
A 3.5lb trigger is not more dangerous? What about under a high stress situation when people flinch or squeeze too hard.
Theres probably a reason they arent issued nationwide.
And who the hell said anything about breathing on them or stupid shit like that?
Im at the range twice a week...Im not your typical once a year shooter and I have used plenty of light triggers.
I wasnt even addressing you so you can keep your smartass comments to yourself
Ahem....1911's?
A 3.5 lb is considered standard for most upper end 1911s for what has been considered the best defensive handgun for the past 100+ years...
KestrelBike
09-11-2012, 07:50
+1 to 3.5# and NY1 spring. I do this to ALL of my Glocks.
I did this to my Glock 19 3rd gen and LOVED IT. Then I got a Gen 4 G17, figured to do the same thing, installed it and found that I actually much much preferred the stock setup! I even went back and forth between the two setups one long afternoon and just found the stock trigger on the 4th gen to be great right out of the box.
i did a 3.5# connector and wolff spring kit on my glock 30 i love it its carried daily with no problems i would like to add that that combination did result in light strikes with russian tula ammo at a rate of 1 out of 100 i didnt like that so i upgraded the striker to a lightened one with an extended nose and it is performing flawlessly now
A 3.5lb trigger is not more dangerous? What about under a high stress situation when people flinch or squeeze too hard.
Rule #3: Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until your sights are on target and you are ready to fire.
Nope.. Not more dangerous.
Do these really make a noticiable difference? I have read a few reviews on them and look around but was wondering they were really worth it? Any companies better than others? Would rather hear your guys' opinion.
I have a 3.5 Ghost in my new G19 and a Glock stock connector that I polished to a very high shine in my G30sf. They feel the same to me. ;)
I have a left over 3.5 Ghost - probably going to take it back and get a few $$ back. My G26 and G23 both have the Glock 3.5 connector (polished by me), and they feel the same as the G19 and G30sf
I feel it does make a difference - the polished connector is much smoother (less or no grit in the trigger pull).
The biggest change for me was to replace the stock 5lb trigger spring with a 6lb trigger spring. This makes for a very nice trigger pull.
It was confusing to me at first (yeah, I'm slow), but the more weight on the trigger spring, the less resistance to pull the trigger.
To me, you should save the $$$, polish the stock Glock connector (Fitz and a polish rag, or if you are lazy like me, a dremel w/a polish attachment and some Fitz). By hand I took 20 minutes, w/the dremel (on slow), it took less than 5 minutes... :) You can buy the standard Glock connector cheap and have a couple spares.
But do buy the 6lb trigger connector and swap that out to see how it feels.
The best thing about all of this is that the Glock is so dang easy to work with!
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