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mutt
09-13-2011, 12:56
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2011/09/13/n_poverty_america_ann.cnnmoney/

I don't know if this video was supposed to make me feel bad for this lady but I had the exact opposite reaction. It just pissed me off more. She is the typical product of institutionalised welfare. In her own words she says she's only been off food stamps once in her entire life. And that was for one year when she had a state job. I'm assuming it was just another form of assistance under the guise of a job. She even says that they have education and aspirations too. Right. In 40 or so years her education and aspirations have never motivated her to actually get off the govt tit and be a productive member of society.

What really gets me is her son. He's another one headed for a lifetime of govt assistance. When asked what his aspirations are, he says he wants 'High People' to come down and see how bad it is for them. Translated - I want more handouts so we can have a better life. Sigh. Maybe he should aspire to becoming a 'High Person' through hard work and determination. Or not.

I understand people sometimes need temporary help. I know what it's like to be so broke that you literally don't have 2 cents to rub together. But I will never understand or condone choosing a lifetime of dependency and bare subsistence on the backs of those willing to work. Every pay check I see the gigantic chunk of my earnings stolen from me so people like this can leech and it pisses me off.

And what's sad this lady actually doesn't think she's lazy or unmotivated. Others just haven't given her the right opportunities. I'm sorry, if you've been on welfare your entire life and you haven't had a steady job in 5 plus years (and you're not mentally/physically disabled), YOU ARE LAZY!

Rant over. Back to working my job so she doesn't have to.

Mazin
09-13-2011, 13:55
This reminds me of my sister in law, real leach... She's not on the government teet but on the familys. She divorced he husband and moved her 4 kids into my brother in laws house and is the only person I have ever met that has a middle class lifestyle FOR FREE!

Let me list the things that are produced for her so she doen't have to get off her fat ass and actually work for a living;

Cell Phone (paid for by mother in law)
Daycare (kids stay with my mother in law during the day)
Food (Brother in law and mother in law)
SUV (paid for by ex)
Insurance for SUV (paid for by mother in law)
Gas (Mother in law)
Spending money (child support)
Clothes for her fat ass and the kids (mother in law)
Education for kids (ohh wait she home schools them LOL)
Health Ins for the kids (ex)

Ohh but in an effort to "Secure thier future" she went back to school...Instead of a major that will get hre a job and income fast to support her family she wants to get an anthropologie degree, yea that will pay off as soon as she finishes. Ohh I forgot she is using federal funding for her education that she will never use (or pay back) because she is too lazy.

Meanwhile my wife and I have to work 80+ hours a week, make our payments, pay for our education and still have to squeak by to make it another month to do the same.

Whats more annoying is people like this have the attatude that we should be doing more or some how they are entitled to a life like this. I wish as a society that we can just use the motto "WORK FOR A LIVING", you dont work you don't eat plain and simple. Thats where the government F***ed up, instead of giving assitance we should be making these people work for the assistance they receive.

/rant

Zundfolge
09-13-2011, 14:37
I think being on government assistance should preclude you from being able to vote.


At any rate, I have an niece that was raised in a decent middle-upper-middle class home but she prefers to cover herself in tattoos, have babies, suck off the government tit and thumb her nose at all us "dumb squares that work".

2 Thessalonians 3:10

jhood001
09-13-2011, 14:47
I think being on government assistance should preclude you from being able to vote or reproduce.


Fixed!

I have one of these in my family, too. Just had her 4th child and 'rents' a home my parents bought so her boys could have a yard to play in. The words of one of my cousins who was recently ranting about her sums up my feelings:

'Sew it up already'

Ronin13
09-13-2011, 14:47
I got on someone's case who was at a friend's house that was suckling on .gov's teet, he had the balls to say "I found a way to cheat the system, I'm sorry you can't be that smart." I was about ready to find the largest blunt object and smash his head in. I know he abuses the system and buys weed, alcohol and other stuff that it's not intended for, I had to walk away to save his life, and I even told him "I'm sorry, I have to walk away before I lose my cool and something happens that I might regret." He just laughed a very condescending laugh, at that point I about went off- thankfully cooler heads prevailed.

DFBrews
09-13-2011, 14:48
Fixed!

'Sew it up already'

insert non family friendly comment about using the stomach containment method

TFOGGER
09-13-2011, 14:54
It's obvious that she ain't starving, or even missing any meals.

She's a do nothing, untrained slug, that has done nothing to change her situation. No sympathy here. I've worked an average of 10 hours a day since shortly after I graduated from high school.

Mazin
09-13-2011, 15:06
I think being on government assistance should preclude you from being able to vote.


At any rate, I have an niece that was raised in a decent middle-upper-middle class home but she prefers to cover herself in tattoos, have babies, suck off the government tit and thumb her nose at all us "dumb squares that work".

2 Thessalonians 3:10

Thanks i was trying to remember what verse it was. "Even while we were with you we gave you this command, those un willing to work will not get to eat". Nlt

MED
09-13-2011, 16:03
I think being on government assistance should preclude you from being able to vote.

I agree 100%

SuperiorDG
09-13-2011, 16:05
They could eat the cat.[BooHoo]

Byte Stryke
09-13-2011, 16:08
I think being on government assistance should preclude you from being able to vote.



never happen.
the whole intent of entitlement and welfare is to create a dependency environment in which the VOTER will keep their POLITICIAN in office that is feeding them the freebies.


If a politician even mentioned cutting welfare, foodstamps or government aid they would be voted out of office.

Ronin13
09-13-2011, 16:14
never happen.
the whole intent of entitlement and welfare is to create a dependency environment in which the VOTER will keep their POLITICIAN in office that is feeding them the freebies.


If a politician even mentioned cutting welfare, foodstamps or government aid they would be voted out of office.

Got this in an email recently and thought it fits with this perfectly!
"The folks who are getting free shit, don't like the folks who are paying for the free shit, because the folks who are paying for the free shit, can no longer afford to pay for both the free shit and their own shit.

And, The folks who are paying for the free shit,
Want the free shit to stop. And the folks who are getting the free shit, want even MORE free shit on top of the free shit they're getting already!

Now, the people who are forcing people to PAY for the free shit, have told the people who are RECEIVING the free shit, that the people who are PAYING for the free shit, are being mean, prejudiced and racist.

So, the people who are GETTING the free shit, have been convinced they need to HATE the people who are PAYING for the free shit because they are
selfish. And they are promised more free shit if they will vote for the people who force the people who pay for the free shit to give them even more
free shit."

Zundfolge
09-13-2011, 16:16
never happen.
A LOT of stuff that should happen will never happen. Which brings me back to the other thread where I said if I were God I'd have killed off the human race a long time ago.

roberth
09-13-2011, 16:29
never happen.
the whole intent of entitlement and welfare is to create a dependency environment in which the VOTER will keep their POLITICIAN in office that is feeding them the freebies.


If a politician even mentioned cutting welfare, foodstamps or government aid they would be voted out of office.

True, true, and true.

Watch your asses when the gov runs out of your money, the parasites will be on your doorstep demanding their fair share.

hammer03
09-13-2011, 21:37
True, true, and true.

Watch your asses when the gov runs out of your money, the parasites will be on your doorstep demanding their fair share.

I can see the London-esque riots happening here, and it turning real ugly, real quick...

Bailey Guns
09-13-2011, 21:43
Another good reason to live in Bailey.

Byte Stryke
09-13-2011, 22:06
True, true, and true.

Watch your asses when the gov runs out of your money, the parasites will be on your doorstep demanding their fair share.


I can see the London-esque riots happening here, and it turning real ugly, real quick...



they can have my Guns...

Bullets first!

roberth
09-13-2011, 22:25
Problems I see with all public assistance.

You don't need to be a citizen. There isn't an end of cycle. There is no incentive to get off welfare. The system breeds more recipients. The system rewards bad behavior.

The administration of public assistance is another problem that won't get addressed by any politician.

These parasites need some tough love, they need to get booted and forced to earn an honest living or mooch off some bleeding heart. I'm not talking about forced labor, I'm talking about the parasite receiving zero public help, if a private person or a charity wants to give some money they most certainly can.

Byte Stryke
09-13-2011, 22:33
I Still believe that our system needs to adopt some of the old school west German Assistance Policies.

Unemployed?
We will give you a check!
show up every day M-F 7-4. we will provide you with a temporary job until you can be placed with a permanent job. you have Kids? Its OK... we have a daycare run by people that needed a job too.
No Car? here is your bus pass, if you do not report for work, you will not be paid.

perfect? nope...

but a fuckload better than the fat-ass breeder-cows sitting at home screwing and squeezing out welfare babies.

bobbyfairbanks
09-13-2011, 22:47
From what I could tell, She is doing just fine off of food stamps. Did you see the size of her belly!

BigNick73
09-13-2011, 23:16
How does she claim it for that long?

I got transferred to CO so my wife tried to claim unemployment since she had to quit her job and was denied when trying to collect for the first time in 13 years of steady employment, and would have only received it for 6 months max if it had happened.

I also had a buddy that lost his job due to the WorldCom fiasco back in the day and was cut off after 6 months. He took the money and opened a PC repair shop.

SAnd
09-13-2011, 23:27
It's not just the leeches that are the problem. There are a lot of working people, at all levels, that don't make the connection between life style and spending. I worked with several people that were convinced that it was nothing but luck that I was able to retire early. They made the same or more than I did but couldn't see that their spending habits kept them from saving any money. They always saw some excuse as why they couldn't save. One of the guys said because he had two kids he couldn't save anything in spite of making 20% more than I did. I could not convince him his annual $6000 trips to Hawaii were part of it. He knew those trips were absolutely necessary for the family. Another had to have a new car every year, although his wife only got a new one every other year. He could show on paper where I was spending more driving the same car for 10 years. They both said my savings should be taxed heavily because I obviously didn't need it.

There are plenty of non-welfare people that support taking money from those that have it and giving it to those that don't have it, including giving to those that have a lot already. I think they're called liberals. They support Obama and the other dems and government handouts.

At this time the leeches have to have some voting support from earners to get their freebies.

rondog
09-13-2011, 23:33
My stepdaughter and her boyfriend are like that, professional parasites. And he claims to be a former US Navy Seal. Yeah, right. AFAIK, those guys are, like, ambitious, and driven, and have ethics/pride, and integrity, and are too damn patriotic to demand .gov handouts, and aren't heroin addicts and pot growers, and work real jobs that pay taxes...not under-the-table-only jobs.

The S/D hasn't had a job in probably 10 years or more, just a professional tit-sucker. Oh, they have a paper route....but pay no taxes on that income either. She's so lazy she wouldn't wipe her own ass if she could get someone else to do it for her. But if she could get in a .gov program to provide an ass-wiper for her, she'd ride the bus and stand in line for it.

Elhuero
09-13-2011, 23:57
the woman and her kid are both tubby. they ain't missing any meals.

and I'm sure they find the dough to feed that cat on the table. bet it's been to the vet as well.

end it all and let them starve.

mutt
09-14-2011, 00:07
I Still believe that our system needs to adopt some of the old school west German Assistance Policies.

Unemployed?
We will give you a check!
show up every day M-F 7-4. we will provide you with a temporary job until you can be placed with a permanent job. you have Kids? Its OK... we have a daycare run by people that needed a job too.
No Car? here is your bus pass, if you do not report for work, you will not be paid.

perfect? nope...

but a fuckload better than the fat-ass breeder-cows sitting at home screwing and squeezing out welfare babies.

Bingo. Need help? No problem. All we ask is you work for it. I'd be willing to bet there would be a lot less welfare recipients if they actually had to do hard labor for that handout. Welfare should not be easy. It should suck enough that getting an honest job is viewed as an enticing alternative. Letting someone sit on their ass all day is not helping them help themselves.

Byte Stryke
09-14-2011, 00:33
Bingo. Need help? No problem. All we ask is you work for it. I'd be willing to bet there would be a lot less welfare recipients if they actually had to do hard labor for that handout. Welfare should not be easy. It should suck enough that getting an honest job is viewed as an enticing alternative. Letting someone sit on their ass all day is not helping them help themselves.


not even hard labor...

just responsibility and accountability

jhood001
09-14-2011, 00:37
I Still believe that our system needs to adopt some of the old school west German Assistance Policies.

Unemployed?
We will give you a check!
show up every day M-F 7-4. we will provide you with a temporary job until you can be placed with a permanent job. you have Kids? Its OK... we have a daycare run by people that needed a job too.
No Car? here is your bus pass, if you do not report for work, you will not be paid.


Hell, I would even be alright with making them show up to a completely empty room with a single chair in it and making them sit in that god damn chair from 7-4. I believe it would discourage the majority of the able-bodied people from applying. Simply put: Nobody gets something for doing nothing. I don't care what you do to get your 'free' something as long as it isn't how you want to be spending your day.

We seriously need to build the Matrix. We can put all these lazy bastards in there and we can use them as batteries or something. Independence from foreign oil here we come!

Guylee
09-14-2011, 00:48
I wonder exactly how grateful they would be if the "high people" (ridiculously idiotic nomenclature, by the way), came down and said "you're right! These living conditions are terrible! Here's a full time job for both of you!"

She complains about how all the jobs are minimum wage and they would still have to apply for assistance. So fucking what? That gives you the right to just sit on your ass and suckle the teat of society?

TFOGGER
09-14-2011, 08:54
they can have my Guns...

Bullets first!

I'll keep my guns, but I'll be happy to share my ammo [M2]

Ronin13
09-14-2011, 09:19
With all the people currently on welfare, and I believe well over half of them are capable of unskilled labor- we could fix many problems with our nation's infrastructure! Byte's idea from W. Germany would work very well in that regard. No job and collecting checks from .gov? Here, go fix roads, bridges, power lines, sewer, etc. We'd have enough to start a small government funded infrastructure repair company. They get paid, they are productive, and if they don't like the work (which I've done road crew work, it's not that hard) then they can actually get off their ass and find a better job! Problem fixed. And that, my friends, is how you kill 2 birds with one stone.

rondog
09-14-2011, 11:51
Let's not forget mandatory drug testing in order to get yo' checks. No public tits for druggies!

hammer03
09-14-2011, 13:52
Let's not forget mandatory drug testing in order to get yo' checks. No public tits for druggies!

Agreed. If I had to get tested to work for a living, they need testing to do nothing. Although the public works thing is a great idea. Not like they could do a worse job than some gov't contractors...

And I take back what I said before. Thinking more about it, those london riots could happen here, they would start in LA, SF, NY, Denver, etc. You know, all the places with more restrictive gun laws for your protection!

roberth
09-14-2011, 16:26
Let's not forget mandatory drug testing in order to get yo' checks. No public tits for druggies!

See I knew someone would find something I missed.

I don't think we should make them work to earn their welfare check, we should just STOP sending the parasites money.

OT - where are the liberal scum to defend this theft and redistribution of the producers wealth by the state?

rockhound
09-14-2011, 16:30
I can see the London-esque riots happening here, and it turning real ugly, real quick...


i have a fair share for them. i will give them their share of my ammo

i already give them a huge check every year.

Irving
09-14-2011, 22:10
Here, go fix roads, bridges, power lines, sewer, etc. We'd have enough to start a small government funded infrastructure repair company. They get paid, they are productive, and if they don't like the work (which I've done road crew work, it's not that hard) then they can actually get off their ass and find a better job! Problem fixed. And that, my friends, is how you kill 2 birds with one stone.

Thanks, but I don't want people like those in that video working on anything you listed. They can pick up trash and mow lawns.

halletts
09-15-2011, 19:54
Thanks, but I don't want people like those in that video working on anything you listed. They can pick up trash and mow lawns.

hmm, a very good point...

Byte Stryke
09-15-2011, 21:54
Let's not forget mandatory drug testing in order to get yo' checks. No public tits for druggies!



da state alredy say dat be discriminashuns!

BREATHER
09-16-2011, 07:11
Did anyone notice how filthy her kitchen was ???? If she is sittin' at home waiting for her check, how come she ain't got the time to clean the filth. \

My job brings me in contact with many of these people. Most smell like grease and cigarettes and pot. You would not beleive how many of these welfare suckers can afford a doctor to get a pot card and then have the money to get pot from a dispensary.

Oh wait a minute... It's us workin' folks that pay for their pot Dr. and their pot. I do not have anything against pot, just the assmonkeys that get it with my tax money.

Not to mention the current form of welfare, Disabilty for mental reasons. You would not beleive the amount of bottom feeders that get a disability check for all kinds of lame diagnosis'... A large number of them can work...

BigBear
09-16-2011, 07:52
It's funny to me... When I lost my job last year I was denied any assistance and I have bills out the wazoo. Somehow, I managed to survive... Oh yeah, I simply sold stuff I could and used all my savings and found odd jobs to do until something steady came along. That was the saving grace. Most people never start a savings because they must have that 55 inch tv or new car. Someday I WILL be debt free... At my current rate, I'll be 72 before it happens, but it WILL happen.


I say give the leeches a choice, work at a provided job, sell your stuff, or eat a bullet.

That being said, there are some geuine people who truly do need help, but that should be all done by the private sector, not the government. If you can't run your life, you shouldn't be able to live it, much less bring others into it with a low percentile of a chance for success.


Howe

alxone
09-16-2011, 07:57
Thanks, but I don't want people like those in that video working on anything you listed. They can pick up trash and mow lawns.
as long as they stay away from my brass id gladly take a few welfair people with me to clean up the range . then i could make them be targets ....er um ... change targets [ROFL1][ROFL1][ROFL1]

BuffCyclist
09-16-2011, 08:15
My girlfriend works in the financial aid department for the community college in town (branch campus of a larger state college). She tells me how many people there are that enroll in the college to get financial aid.

Full time tuition is $900 a semester. The average scholarship that they give out is $2000 per semester. These people realize that they can just enroll in class and get a free $1100, and they take that money and pimp their cars out and buy drugs. She verifies that they are abusing the system because they fail their class and then try to appeal with the lamest excuses. She's even able to look up their police records to see if they were truly "arrested" when they said they were just before finals and thats why they failed the classes, only to see that they've been arrested many times before, that its a regular occurrence for them. One kid applied for financial aid just to put up a slandering billboard about his ex-"girlfriend" who supposedly had an abortion adn never told him, put several national organizations' names on the board and they ended up suing him over the ordeal.

Mtn.man
09-16-2011, 08:22
You don't get no ice cream,,, cause you on da welfare...

alxone
09-16-2011, 08:23
You don't get no ice cream,,, cause you on da welfare...[ROFL1] love that skit [ROFL1]

DavieD55
09-19-2011, 13:38
I can't feel sorry for this woman either.

Walfare has become a long-term free for all for millions of foreign invaders and welfadites who think they are intitled.

Mtn.man
09-19-2011, 14:36
obamaites.