Put a damn price on it

[JohnTRourke]

I'm sick of this shit, the last few weeks there's been a rampant increase in people abusing the rules of the trading post that say you must put a price on it.
either using WTT but then saying for cash
or WTT and not listing any options

or saying "pm me for price"

and it's all newbies.

I stop looking, I'm not interested and I'm not playing that game.

Put a fucking price on it or if you really only want to trade, put an approximate value on it or what you consider a fair trade.

Otherwise fuck off and use gunbroker

[alxone]

i couldn't agree more , no fixed price no deal .

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm sick of this shit, the last few weeks there's been a rampant increase in people abusing the rules of the trading post that say you must put a price on it.
either using WTT but then saying for cash
or WTT and not listing any options

or saying "pm me for price"

and it's all newbies.

I stop looking, I'm not interested and I'm not playing that game.

Put a fucking price on it or if you really only want to trade, put an approximate value on it or what you consider a fair trade.

Otherwise fuck off and use gunbroker


Beat me to it. This site it turning out to be more of an auction place than actual 4 sale section.
I have send numerous pm / em's inquiring about an actual sale price and have received a lot of :Well what do you have for trade?" responses.
F$%^&k i have a utility trailer, trucks, tools etc, non of them firearm related. Do i need to start including an excel spreadsheet of everything i own to see if something catches their eye?
IF IT DOES NOT HAVE A PRICE ON IT PUT IT IN THE WTT SECTION OR DON'T POST IT

Along the same vein. Whats with all the PNW new posters here? Are they banned from posting in OR or WA??

[Bitter Clinger]

Yup. If there is no price I move on, fuck em! Don't got time to dick around, especially when I can get the same thing from buds for a good price without them wanting me to list off all the shit I'm willing to trade

[Fentonite]

Yup. If there is no price I move on, fuck em! Don't got time to dick around, especially when I can get the same thing from buds for a good price without them wanting me to list off all the shit I'm willing to trade

Exactly. I'm not interested in laying out my inventory for review. Put a price. Put a value. List what you want in trade.

Or go away.

[Great-Kazoo]

HEY SELLERS OR interested parties who respond / receive a pm from me.
HOW ABOUT RESPONDING IN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME??? If you have an interest as i do on 4 sale items a follow up, or even phone call when i leave a contact number please acknowledge contact. I figure most folks contact between Immediately to 1-2 hours on an item. Or they will contact you asking if the items is available as it is not been SOLD or SPF in the original post
Granted everyone has something to do besides being glued to the web, i understand.
If someone contacts you tell us.

1) Sorry i would prefer money vs. potential trade items

2) Yes i received your pm / em but not interested in doing business at this time

3) Yes i am interested but due to (insert here) i can not buy at this time, sorry

Don't tell me I am very interested, send me pictures ,and not hear from you. Obviously you were not "VERY INTERESTED" and wasted my time.
When i leave a phone number and ask you to call because i want to buy the item 4 sale. It is because i will not be near a computer all or part of the day and i really want to buy it.
When i include DO Not Text me as i do not open text, You send me a text message, seriously?

Responding to a post is great but 4 pages of banter, could it not be better done by pm or em'ing the OP?



And PLEASE POST THE FOLLOWING IF YOU ARE DOING A FTF
I want to do a FTF but not mail or ship the item. If someone ask. " Could you ship it to me?"
If you decide that is not in your scheduling say so. DON'T say NO then 2-3 days later after you have posted BTT every 15-20 minutes WILL SHIP for $$ extra then not contact someone who asked to see if they are still interested.

LAST ITEM enough with all caps!!

[spleify]

Hehe, I love these kinds of threads....and put a damn picture of your item up too.

[alxone]

Hehe, I love these kinds of threads....and put a damn picture of your item up too.
hey now , just cause im lazy does not mean i wont get to it [Tooth]

[brokenscout]

When I want to trade I put what I want. When selling a cash price is nice(and the RULES). Are we going to start and auction thread?[Coffee].

[brokenscout]

Hehe, I love these kinds of threads....and put a damn picture of your item up too.
The only thing worse then no picture is this,[Worth]
It bugs me, if they put email for pic's thats good enough.

[brokenscout]

When people put it up for trade and then post how much they sold it for. Pisses me off

[Colorado Luckydog]

If it it posted for trade only and I mean REALLY for trade only, I don't see any reason why a price or value should be posted. I have traded many things for less than the real value because someone else had what I wanted. I have also been able to trade up. The deal in a trade is the value precieved by both parties. You may have something I really really want and no way I have the money to spend on it right at the moment.

I do think it's bullshit for them to get around posting a price if it is really for sale.

Horse trading like that is very fun to me.

[BlasterBob]

Should be a pretty easy "fix". Delete their ad as soon as it is seen by a Mod or someone granted authority to do so and then use the "ban hammer" on their ass. Ban the bastard SOB's for life!!![Mad]
If I am ever guilty of such an offense in the future, ban my axe!!


OK, now we should no longer be seeing the following:
"I have something really great for sale or trade but I just cannot bring myself to set a price on it or to tell exactly what it is or what I am interested in to take in on a trade " [Tooth]

[brokenscout]

If it it posted for trade only and I mean REALLY for trade only, I don't see any reason why a price or value should be posted. I have traded many things for less than the real value because someone else had what I wanted. I have also been able to trade up. The deal in a trade is the value precieved by both parties. You may have something I really really want and no way I have the money to spend on it right at the moment.

I do think it's bullshit for them to get around posting a price if it is really for sale.

Horse trading like that is very fun to me.
I'll take a hit, if its something I want. This forum is like Netflix for guns.

[Great-Kazoo]

If it it posted for trade only and I mean REALLY for trade only, I don't see any reason why a price or value should be posted. I have traded many things for less than the real value because someone else had what I wanted. I have also been able to trade up. The deal in a trade is the value precieved by both parties. You may have something I really really want and no way I have the money to spend on it right at the moment.

I do think it's bullshit for them to get around posting a price if it is really for sale.

Horse trading like that is very fun to me.

Sounds good, Only put it in the WTT. don't dick around in the FS forum
AND for crisakes an automatic delete should be given when you post
WTT What do you have? What are you looking for???????

[68Charger]

Looks like the "crappy" weather has everyone in a grouchy mood...

not me, reminds me of fishing in Alaska [Coffee]

Coloradans- if y'all don't see the sun EVERY FREAKIN DAY, you start taking it out on people[Flower]

[brokenscout]

Looks like the "crappy" weather has everyone in a grouchy mood...

not me, reminds me of fishing in Alaska [Coffee]

Coloradans- if y'all don't see the sun EVERY FREAKIN DAY, you start taking it out on people[Flower]
Most of the asses in this State find there way to this sight.[Beer]

[bellavite1]

I'm sick of this shit, the last few weeks there's been a rampant increase in people abusing the rules of the trading post that say you must put a price on it.
either using WTT but then saying for cash
or WTT and not listing any options

or saying "pm me for price"

and it's all newbies.

I stop looking, I'm not interested and I'm not playing that game.

Put a fucking price on it or if you really only want to trade, put an approximate value on it or what you consider a fair trade.

Otherwise fuck off and use gunbroker

HOLY SHIT![ROFL1]
Who's gonna moderate the moderator!?[ROFL2]JK: please don't ban my ass![Tooth]

[sneakerd]

There, -their-, and they're. Just sayin'.

[spyder]

Sorry, updated mine, thought I had a trade value in it...

[alxone]

"I have something really great for sale or trade but I just cannot bring myself to set a price on it or to tell exactly what it is or what I am interested in to take in on a trade " [Tooth]
this drives me up the wall

no tv no beer go make homer go something ....

[Colorado Luckydog]

Sounds good, Only put it in the WTT. don't dick around in the FS forum
AND for crisakes an automatic delete should be given when you post
WTT What do you have? What are you looking for???????

Why don't you point out the "Want To Trade Section" for us. You can't because there is not one.

Every time someone post something for sale or trade, it's a chance for someone else here to get a deal on something we want. I don't know why everyone is being so whiney.

[Mobat555]

There have been a few websites I have been on where you had to post a certain amount in general forums before you could buy/sell anything on them. While I have had good deals with people who have less then say 50 posts, it would give them incentive to be part of the community and not just a place to sell their wares.

[alxone]

Why don't you point out the "Want To Trade Section" for us. You can't because there is not one.

Every time someone post something for sale or trade, it's a chance for someone else here to get a deal on something we want. I don't know why everyone is being so whiney.its not that trading is bad (believe me i do it all the time) , its the lack of value placed on item witch leads to a long list of problems when dealing with someone new .

[hip55]

Maybe a "Trades" forum could be created.

Then all of that vague stuff could be separated from the items that are really "For Sale".

[glock21]

Maybe a "Trades" forum could be created.

Then all of that vague stuff could be separated from the items that are really "For Sale".

+1

[Mazin]

Yea there has been a bunch of FNG's here lately pulling that crap. I would like to suggest again that we make a minimum post count of 150 post to be able to post to the For sale section.

I feel 150 is a good number because they will have to make an attempt at becoming a part of the community and if all they want to do is sell and they start bumping old sales items or blowing up threads with one or two word comments they can just be banned.

There has been way to much bs associated with that section and I know the mods have got to be tired of constantly policing it.

I also would like to agree with no pictures of the Item is a PIA, I know what a glock looks like but I dont know what your Glock looks like, I could be hot pink with flowers on it for all I know. Also the excuse of "The site says my pics are to large" is BS, There is a F***ing stickey at the top on how to post pics, F***ing READ!!!!

Last When an Item is sold the OP should Delete the thread not put SOLD!!! and expect a cookie or a medal because they sold it. By doing this it would limit the amount of bumps a worthless thread recieves while not taking away from the new threads and it would prevent any FNG bumping year old for sale items to boost their post count.

I think that since people find our For sale sections so easy to post maybe these or some other rules should be inacted. This is not Armslist or Gunbroker and if they don't like it then they can F*** off.

My $.2
/rant

[BPTactical]

There have been a few websites I have been on where you had to post a certain amount in general forums before you could buy/sell anything on them. While I have had good deals with people who have less then say 50 posts, it would give them incentive to be part of the community and not just a place to sell their wares.

^^^ x 10!

We don't need this site to become a "dumping ground" for every swinging D/#K that wants to sell a firearm. Be a part of this community, contribute something useful other than your 500 yard prowess with your HiPoint 9mm and your hotrod 1980 station wagon. We all enjoy a bit of playful banter and BS'ing each other but when they post absolutely absurd and argumentative post's they just crap up the server and piss people off. You make yourself a horses ass.
I am all for a denial/lock on sale postings until "X" amount of posts are reached. It will help weed out the scuz bucket's that join just to hawk their junk.

[Colorado Luckydog]

I second the minimum post count thing and I really like the idea of a trade only section. That would be cool.

[Clint45]

The guys I've met on this forum have been great. Cologunmarket and armslist, not so much. I think of this place more as a community than a place to buy and sell guns.

One thing that pisses me off about those other places is when you send an email and get no response for days, then you hear "I have a lot of interest in this piece and several people have offered me my asking price, but I might sell to you if you pay $50 - $100 more than the price listed." Another thing I've had happen was a seller call me reepeatedly throughout the day like a high pressure telemarketer trying to get me to buy his worn out pistol with broken grips -- I offered a reasonable price which he angrily refused, saying he had another buyer lined up for later that day -- but three days later it was reposted at the price I'd offered. Off topic rant done.

[brokenscout]

Yea there has been a bunch of FNG's here lately pulling that crap. I would like to suggest again that we make a minimum post count of 150 post to be able to post to the For sale section.

I feel 150 is a good number because they will have to make an attempt at becoming a part of the community and if all they want to do is sell and they start bumping old sales items or blowing up threads with one or two word comments they can just be banned.

There has been way to much bs associated with that section and I know the mods have got to be tired of constantly policing it.

I also would like to agree with no pictures of the Item is a PIA, I know what a glock looks like but I dont know what your Glock looks like, I could be hot pink with flowers on it for all I know. Also the excuse of "The site says my pics are to large" is BS, There is a F***ing stickey at the top on how to post pics, F***ing READ!!!!

Last When an Item is sold the OP should Delete the thread not put SOLD!!! and expect a cookie or a medal because they sold it. By doing this it would limit the amount of bumps a worthless thread recieves while not taking away from the new threads and it would prevent any FNG bumping year old for sale items to boost their post count.

I think that since people find our For sale sections so easy to post maybe these or some other rules should be inacted. This is not Armslist or Gunbroker and if they don't like it then they can F*** off.

My $.2
/rant
Ageed,except for the pictures. I'm glad they don't give a post count for bumping someones post. Anymore. I hate when thet bump it to tell you its sold. 150 is a great number.
a WTT section would be nice.

[funkfool]

no tv no beer go make homer go something ....
I agree...
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PUT A FREAKING PRICE ON IT!

[Obound]

I understand the desire to keep this community filled with upstanding individuals and the post count may help that.

However I can say that I read this forum everyday but I do not post much. I have been with this forum for at least a year now and my post count is still around 20.

There have been times where I have considered trading one of my pistols and not selling it but if your only looking to only trade it then yes I think you should have to at least list what your looking to trade for.

As always, I enjoy all of the wonderful members here and its a pleasure to be a member.

[sniper7]

I just send them or offer a ridiculous price. Then when they getoffened I tell them to read the rules and they wont get stupid responses.

[SA Friday]

I understand the desire to keep this community filled with upstanding individuals and the post count may help that.

However I can say that I read this forum everyday but I do not post much. I have been with this forum for at least a year now and my post count is still around 20.

There have been times where I have considered trading one of my pistols and not selling it but if your only looking to only trade it then yes I think you should have to at least list what your looking to trade for.

As always, I enjoy all of the wonderful members here and its a pleasure to be a member.

Obound has a point, but as we can see, there's a 'joined date' at the top right corner of the member profile in a post. It possible, criteria could be set for 150 posts OR minimum one year member. Just a thought.

BTW, read one the other day that I just loved. A $2k gun and snootly stated he wouldn't post pics... Are you Fn serious? I can see 'email for pics' on the regular stuff, but if you want someone to drop mad cash like that, pony up the pic in the thread of expect nobody to send a pm. Ya, I'm going to drive out to BFE with $2k product unseen. Seriously, shrink and insert the pic already. My 8 year old can do it...

[alxone]

shrink and insert the pic already. My 8 year old can do it...
does he offer lessons cause i suck at it [ROFL1][ROFL2]

[Eggysrun]

Post count shouldn't determine character or quality. Any jackass can post 150 posts in a short manner of time and still suck. Just my 2 cents. Ive been here a short time and made some good trades and sales with 3 people here so far.

But back on topic I agree the price or trade options need to be clear. Not this secret squirel bs.

[Great-Kazoo]

Post count shouldn't determine character or quality. Any jackass can post 150 posts in a short manner of time and still suck. Just my 2 cents. Ive been here a short time and made some good trades and sales with 3 people here so far.

But back on topic I agree the price or trade options need to be clear. Not this secret squirel bs.

FEEDBACK is where i go to see if a newer member is worth my time and money to deal with.

[Mazin]

[Coffee]
FEEDBACK is where i go to see if a newer member is worth my time and money to deal with.


Thats why before any deal, buy or sell I check feedback. Also I agree with the fact that if you have been here a while (year or more) but don't have the post count then that should be an exception but its no "secret Squirrel BS" its long standing members of this forum tired of the for sale section going to shit because some dude wants to be an asshat and get rid of his crap and never come back. You also might notice the same FNG's sell there old crap for new retial prices and they don't care if they screw someone over because they are like a john picking up a hooker, f***em and leave your load.


Brokenscout I thought you knew I have a hard time letting things out because I'm so shy...

[spleify]

Yea there has been a bunch of FNG's here lately pulling that crap. I would like to suggest again that we make a minimum post count of 150 post to be able to post to the For sale section.

I feel 150 is a good number because they will have to make an attempt at becoming a part of the community and if all they want to do is sell and they start bumping old sales items or blowing up threads with one or two word comments they can just be banned.

There has been way to much bs associated with that section and I know the mods have got to be tired of constantly policing it.

I also would like to agree with no pictures of the Item is a PIA, I know what a glock looks like but I dont know what your Glock looks like, I could be hot pink with flowers on it for all I know. Also the excuse of "The site says my pics are to large" is BS, There is a F***ing stickey at the top on how to post pics, F***ing READ!!!!

Last When an Item is sold the OP should Delete the thread not put SOLD!!! and expect a cookie or a medal because they sold it. By doing this it would limit the amount of bumps a worthless thread recieves while not taking away from the new threads and it would prevent any FNG bumping year old for sale items to boost their post count.

I think that since people find our For sale sections so easy to post maybe these or some other rules should be inacted. This is not Armslist or Gunbroker and if they don't like it then they can F*** off.

My $.2
/rant





^^^ x 10!

We don't need this site to become a "dumping ground" for every swinging D/#K that wants to sell a firearm. Be a part of this community, contribute something useful other than your 500 yard prowess with your HiPoint 9mm and your hotrod 1980 station wagon. We all enjoy a bit of playful banter and BS'ing each other but when they post absolutely absurd and argumentative post's they just crap up the server and piss people off. You make yourself a horses ass.
I am all for a denial/lock on sale postings until "X" amount of posts are reached. It will help weed out the scuz bucket's that join just to hawk their junk.


Woohoo, my two favorite posts in this thread so far!!!! Way to go boys!!!! [Coffee] [ROFL2]





Post count shouldn't determine character or quality. Any jackass can post 150 posts in a short manner of time and still suck. Just my 2 cents. Ive been here a short time and made some good trades and sales with 3 people here so far.

But back on topic I agree the price or trade options need to be clear. Not this secret squirel bs.

Your correct post count shouldnt and doesnt determine character. What the posts will do is assure that someone comes here to be a part of this community and not just pop in and sell a gun and then move on.

What everyone here needs to remember this is a discussion forum with the ADDED benefit of a trading post, NOT the other way around. If your only objective is to sell firearms and never participate in the forum thats a shame and there are other sites out there that will allow you to just sell a gun. I personally like the idea that we are more than just a selling site and its FREE and we have a feed back forum to hold folks responsible.

[SideShow Bob]

does he offer lessons cause i suck at it [ROFL1][ROFL2]

You are not the only one. [Beer]

[sneakerd]

What f'n pisses me off is when people who are not in the Denver Metro area, say Greeley or Colo Springs, want your item, but they either won't come and f'n get it, or they whine about shipping. Or if I was in Ft. Collins and somebody in Denver wanted a $20 item, takes a lot of my time negotiating a lower price but didn't want to even suggest coming and getting it, and whined about and/or want me to eat any part of shipping. Eat me- I'll burn it 1st. [Fire]

[Mobat555]

What f'n pisses me off is when people who are not in the Denver Metro area, say Greeley or Colo Springs, want your item, but they either won't come and f'n get it, or they whine about shipping.

Oh man hope this isnt a rant on me... [Beer]

[sneakerd]

You know it ain't feller. For a C-note, I'll figger out delivery- and I'm learnin. For $15 or $20, from now on outside the Denver Metro Area, delivery and or pick-up is the buyer's problem- not mine. I'll think twice when I'm talking to people outside my area about small dollars. Don't waste my time. [Mad]

[SA Friday]

What f'n pisses me off is when people who are not in the Denver Metro area, say Greeley or Colo Springs, want your item, but they either won't come and f'n get it, or they whine about shipping. Or if I was in Ft. Collins and somebody in Denver wanted a $20 item, takes a lot of my time negotiating a lower price but didn't want to even suggest coming and getting it, and whined about and/or want me to eat any part of shipping. Eat me- I'll burn it 1st. [Fire]

[ROFL2] I drove all the way from Castle Rock to the southern edge of the Pawnee grass lands to pick up a steel target. Not once but twice.

Hell, if you don't want to interact with people loving the same thing that you do, then why join the site in the first place? It's not the targets I remember about the trips, it's the people. I'd make the drive back there again in a heartbeat.

[alxone]

What f'n pisses me off is when people who are not in the Denver Metro area, say Greeley or Colo Springs, want your item, but they either won't come and f'n get it, or they whine about shipping. Or if I was in Ft. Collins and somebody in Denver wanted a $20 item, takes a lot of my time negotiating a lower price but didn't want to even suggest coming and getting it, and whined about and/or want me to eat any part of shipping. Eat me- I'll burn it 1st. [Fire]i have pretty good luck with this . most folks knock a few bucks off , meet half way or throw down on the extras of me . although there are a few i have dealt with that expect you to drive damn near to kansas and pay top dollar for for a very used gun . so i have boundaries or limits im willing to travel to make a deal . i usually try to stick from co springs to loveland ,id have no problem with an hour or so into the hills but i wont go too much past 270 east . i also look at the location of buyer/seller when making offer and factor the gas ect. to the bid .

[sneakerd]

Huh? You say you drove all the way up there to pick up steel targets, sounds like you were the buyer- so what's your beef? In a buyer/seller relationship, it's not my responsibility to eat delivery cost and/or shipping, after lengthy negotiations over a few dollars, especially on small dollar items. I've met lots of good folks here, as you may see if you peruse my feedback- this in a pretty short time on the forum. If you have the $$ to spend on gasoline delivering some 40 miles (that right there is 80 miles round trip, say 17 mpg so that's about 5 gallons of gas- $3.50 per gallon- so 17.50 in gas alone) more power to you. On an item someone wants for $15 or $20.
What's the point? If they are a friend or someone you've dealt with a number of times, ok fine- that's different.

[7idl]

ok, time to be a hard-ass...



a. For Sale / Trade / Wanted

i. All firearm sale rules and regulations apply.
ii. No commercial ads allowed without staff approval.
iii. Business shall be conducted in an honorable fashion.
iv. Be honest and accurate.
v. Don’t lie or be deceptive. This includes “Shill” or “plant” type activities.
vi. Theft and fraud are prohibited. Site staff may cooperate in any legal action against such activities.
vii. When offering something for sale, a price must be included.
viii. When asking for a face to face transaction and/or local sale/trade, include your location.

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33477

this requirement has been posted for YEARS. No excuses!

do I need to get out the ban hammer? [Spank]

[sneakerd]

Can I ask what this has to do with my post?

[Irving]

How many more threads like this are we going to get? NO ONE reads forum rules when they join a site. No one. I've probably posted on 20 different sites over the years, and have never read any forum rules unless they were specifically brought to attention by a thread or something.

[Poofengle]

...but I can say that I read this forum everyday but I do not post much. I have been with this forum for at least a year now and my post count is still around 20.

I'm exactly the same way. I love reading the forum, and I visit at least once or twice a day, but I don't post much. I think that if there is a post limit enabled it should be lower so that you don't get a bunch of jerks bumping up old stuff and so that people like me who don't post much can still buy and sell things.

I just really prefer interacting face to face, and between the 3 forums I frequent most (here being one of them), I probably have 200 posts total.

I've met some really great people through the for sale forum, but if there were a high post count limit enabled I probably couldn't bring myself to blather mindlessly up to 150 posts just to sell a rifle or a pistol. I would just feel like a jerk posting on threads with an ulterior motive in mind. I hate saying things I don't mean, and being forced to write "yeah, that movie wuz funny llol!!1!" for the chance to post a rifle in the for sale section would really turn me away from the forum.

Anyway, that's how I feel about that. I think that people should just get less leeway on the FS forum. Either follow the rules or lose your privilege to sell things online.

Include a price (firm or OBO), include pictures, say what your trade interests are, and most importantly include a good description! I hate it when I see ads where the only description is "glock 17. 2 mags. PM for pics." If you're trying to sell something, try and sell it! Accurately describe the item for sale and talk about what accessories, mags, etc. come with it. Then, be polite with PMs and when replying to questions, and once you've done that, you've made a successful FS post.[Beer]

[Byte Stryke]

I would propose that one of the web gurus here design and online "test" of some sort

one where a page pops up, has each one the sale rules, you have to click "I Agree" and the circle next to the rule.

Next rule

a page pops up, has each one the sale rules, you have to click "I Agree" and the circle next to the rule.

rinse and repeat

this is stored in the profile as a permission and we get to post.

otherwise not.

surely someone here can finger this out

[68Charger]

I would propose that one of the web gurus here design and online "test" of some sort

one where a page pops up, has each one the sale rules, you have to click "I Agree" and the circle next to the rule.

Next rule

a page pops up, has each one the sale rules, you have to click "I Agree" and the circle next to the rule.

You know they're still not going to read it- they'll just click "I Agree"
Remember this?
http://www.geek.com/articles/games/gamestation-eula-collects-7500-souls-from-unsuspecting-customers-20100416

how about a pop quiz, where actual answers are required?

or just public ridicule? e.g. the low-ball offers, etc (not very friendly, but thin-skinned individuals will eventually have problems on this board anyway)[Stooge]

[n8tive97]

Love this stuff, I have been out of town the last 4 days with my back up crackberry that I cant get CO AR-15 on. (jumped in the lake with my old new one). Dumb ass, I know....
Great thread, reminds me of why I love this site so much!

[Pop][Pepsi]

[Irving]

The best solution I've seen to this problem is just to create a template in a sticky, then just required the template be used and filled out for every thread. Delete threads that don't use the template. You don't even need to pussy foot around and hold people's hands. If they want to sell here, they'll figure it out very quickly. Especially when every for sale thread looks the same.

[JohnTRourke]

clearly threads aren't doing it
thus public shame is going to have to.

no pics, no chance wall of shame

all on the first page of for sale, at 8:40am

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46086 [Bang]

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46025

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46107

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45924


there's only 20 ads on the page and 4 of 'em have no pictures, some for very high dollars. Seriously [Bang]
it's 2011
LEARN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DFBrews]

Just think of all the bandwidth we save by not posting pictures[LOL]

[twitchyfinger]

clearly threads aren't doing it
thus public shame is going to have to.

no pics, no chance wall of shame

all on the first page of for sale, at 8:40am

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46086 [Bang]

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46025

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46107

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45924


there's only 20 ads on the page and 4 of 'em have no pictures, some for very high dollars. Seriously [Bang]
it's 2011
LEARN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is one I can't figure out. Think the guys speaks English but cannot confirm for sure... [Bang]

http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45335

[sometimesright]

Well, I've been arguing with myself about replying to this thread because as you an see I do not post a lot (for a couple of reasons I've shared with others when I've done FTF deals). I'll just put this out in the FWIW department. I have no life so I find my way to this forum probably a couple of times a day and I find most of you here quite entertaining and knowledgeable. [Coffee]

Most of my deals have been made off other sites, although I recently completed one here. I have to admit I've been a closet lurker on this board and had a history of perusing this forum long before I decided to "officially join" and did so primarily because I found it to be interesting and entertaining (some of you guys have quite the sense of humor). [ROFL3] I only want to toss out a couple of opinions.

As one who has made a few deals, I have to say I agree with the OP that posting a price (or at least a trade value) certainly helps. I also agree that pictures are a HUGE help because I live far enough from most sellers that I'd like to know it is something I really want and I plan on keeping my word if I'm making the drive for it. If I am really interested, not having these things will not keep me from a PM to ask for them, but it really would be much easier on everyone if folks stick to the rules (although I have to admit when I signed up I forgot to include my location). [Bang]

Lastly, I hope if I contact anyone on here about a possible deal I won't be viewed as some sort of nutball flake because I don't post much (I'm much better "live"). I typically will send several PMs and make a phone call or two (and maybe even a little other research) in order to make sure we don't have two nutball flakes meeting for a deal.

So, I've taken up a lot of space to simply state it is certainly better for everyone to just follow the rules and don't hate me because I don't post much. [Tooth] Thanks for indulging my windy reply.

[Byte Stryke]

i couldn't agree more , no fixed price no deal .

and yer on the wall of shame [ROFL1]

[Colorado Luckydog]

The best solution I've seen to this problem is just to create a template in a sticky, then just required the template be used and filled out for every thread. Delete threads that don't use the template. You don't even need to pussy foot around and hold people's hands. If they want to sell here, they'll figure it out very quickly. Especially when every for sale thread looks the same.

Dumbass idea.

I vote we change the name of this thread to...................The Girly Vagina Whimpering Thread.

Everone is crying about the very best local classified section on the internet. I have got a lot of great deals, met a lot of good dudes and even made a few friends. Just saying..........

[alxone]

and yer on the wall of shame [ROFL1]
i hate inventing prices for people , if someone tells me what they want for a thing then i can work a usually work out a deal that everyone is happy with . but if i have to invent a price and then they want to haggle (happens all day at the shows ) ... im just sayin that s*ht gets old quick . if i only want to trade the ill say i only want to trade but still say trade amount so people know not to come with some smart ass and or low ball crap .
example
i have this bushmaster , im not really sure what its worth or what ill take so just send me an offer [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
my next offer to an add like that is gonna be this
jennings ja9 used in 2 drive by's , run over once , then left in my fisshin box in fla for a few years , never cleand it but im sure it works great ,but your gonna have to kick down 50 bucks on top of that bushmaster and drive to me.

(i in no way own a firearm like that, but ill find you one if you will give me 50 bucks and a bushmaster [Stooge] )

i dont know why having a price is so hard . just slap a price on a thing and give yourself room to wiggle trade or not . ever had to toss in ammo or extras or ask for any to even out a dollar amount in your head even though its a trade ? hell thats a third of my table right there , all the extras .

[Irving]

Dumbass idea.

I vote we change the name of this thread to...................The Girly Vagina Whimpering Thread.

Everone is crying about the very best local classified section on the internet. I have got a lot of great deals, met a lot of good dudes and even made a few friends. Just saying..........

Have you ever been a mod on a website before? I have, and on a website with much worse classified thread problems than this one. Set up a template and all these problems will disappear for the most part.

[Colorado Luckydog]

Have you ever been a mod on a website before? I have, and on a website with much worse classified thread problems than this one. Set up a template and all these problems will disappear for the most part.

I stand corrected. I didn't know I was in the presence of such vast experience.

It's still a dumbass idea and would make it boring as hell.

I think that most of the problems with the classifieds here are not really problems. They are pet peeves. There will always be the new guy that screws it up but I just have some fun with them and take it for what it is.

I use the classifieds as much or more than anyone here. And again I will say, I have mede a ton of great deals, met some really good dudes and have made some friends. What else can a guy expect from a classified section?????

[alxone]

I use the classifieds as much or more than anyone here. And again I will say, I have made a ton of great deals, met some really good dudes and have made some friends. What else can a guy expect from a classified section?????
honestly nothing else and your right it is more of a pet peeve than anything .mostly when they have something i want [ROFL1]

[brokenscout]

I stand corrected. I didn't know I was in the presence of such vast experience.

It's still a dumbass idea and would make it boring as hell.

I think that most of the problems with the classifieds here are not really problems. They are pet peeves. There will always be the new guy that screws it up but I just have some fun with them and take it for what it is.

I use the classifieds as much or more than anyone here. And again I will say, I have mede a ton of great deals, met some really good dudes and have made some friends. What else can a guy expect from a classified section?????
Should go it the pet peeves section. And if there was a template, we would find something else to bitch about.[Coffee]

[SA Friday]

I think that most of the problems with the classifieds here are not really problems. They are pet peeves. There will always be the new guy that screws it up but I just have some fun with them and take it for what it is.


I agree that most of this thread is peeves, but there are some true issues too. unfortunately, most of the problems seem to be from posters with a count below 20 over the last couple of weeks. There also seems to be a greater than average amour of newbies posting in the sales threads lately too. I haven't done any stats on the impression, but based on a lot of other posters in this thread, the trend is obvious enough that most of the hardcores are seeing it too.

How long will the sales threads be considered quality if they continue down a road of obscure posts, not following the basics, disregard for people posting and pming for info without any responses... Ya, it requires people read and heed some basic rules and many currently are not, a huge chunk are newbies just coming on here to sell and bolt. I've bought and sold guns from newbies and lurkers with low counts, but I'm damn careful doing it. No track record or social ties means there is nothing to base reliability on. Ya, I even do BOS with them (don't take this thread there...). Point is, quality is a sign of good standards. Let the standards go, and we will become CO gunbroker. I don't think any of us want that.

[Irving]

I think that most of the problems with the classifieds here are not really problems. They are pet peeves. There will always be the new guy that screws it up but I just have some fun with them and take it for what it is.



It's absolutely more of a pet peeves issue than anything else, but if people are serious about reducing the noob posts with insufficient info, than a template is the way to do it. That gives people a good idea of what kind of info they should put into their ad. Just like having a template for writing a letter.

[theGinsue]

Last When an Item is sold the OP should Delete the thread not put SOLD!!! and expect a cookie or a medal because they sold it. By doing this it would limit the amount of bumps a worthless thread recieves while not taking away from the new threads and it would prevent any FNG bumping year old for sale items to boost their post count.



Actually, this is the one point in your rant I have to disagree with.

Lots of folks have asked us to NOT delete thread so that others can use the threads to get an idea of current market prices for similar items. Our solution is that we ask the OP to either close the thread and (or at least) post in the thread that the item has SOLD, TRADED, or been WITHDRAWN. If the OP does this as an edit to the OP as the first item it makes it easy for the mods to come in and close the thread with an update to the title indicating it's status. After 60 days, the thread will be archived.

Doing things this way is a happy medium for everyone. The only issue is when folks DON'T update their threads to indicate the item is no longer available so the mods don't know to go in and close & edit it.

This is also the case with the "SPF" updated threads. What? After 3 days are we to assume that the item is gone? If the tread can be updaged to idicate SPF, the OP can also come in to update that the item is sold, traded, etc.

[theGinsue]

ok, time to be a hard-ass...



http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33477

this requirement has been posted for YEARS. No excuses!

do I need to get out the ban hammer? [Spank]

Did you call?

[Coffee]

[Scanker19]

No price? Not in standards with the rules and your ad goes bye-bye. If there are not pictures, that's the seller's problem, I barley look at ads with no pics unless I know the poster is a "regular", or the item is a Glock or other current production item, even that's annoying.

Now if you are trying to sell your International Harvester M1 Garand for $1800, with a one line ad with no pics, then you clearly don't want your item sold in a timely manner.

However in this case the public is still safe and democracy will still be here in the morning.

[BlasterBob]

Actually, this is the one point in your rant I have to disagree with.

Lots of folks have asked us to NOT delete thread so that others can use the threads to get an idea of current market prices for similar items.


I have always thought this was a great idea but thought it best if it was posted by one of our famous Mods.
If not for market prices at least we can see what other sellers are ASKING for their items...... Thanks to the Ginsue for agreeing! [Beer]

[Mazin]

I bow at the feet of the almighty Ginsue...JK man I honestly never thought to check the sold Items to value my own sale, I have ether checked to see how bad people were trying rip others off on Armslist and GB the usually marked my down by 25-30%. but I see the point and I stand corrected.

[SideShow Bob]

I bow at the feet of the almighty Ginsue...JK man I honestly never thought to check the sold Items to value my own sale, I have ether checked to see how bad people were trying rip others off on Armslist and GB the usually marked my down by 25-30%. but I see the point and I stand corrected.

Yes they could be used for this if the prices were left in the ad, but most times the price is edited to either SPF or sold.

[Mazin]

SideshowBob brings up a very good, well thought out, valid point.

[Great-Kazoo]

Yes they could be used for this if the prices were left in the ad, but most times the price is edited to either SPF or sold.

I delete the price and mark it SPF moving to SOLD after the deal is sealed. I do keep the price agreed upon in the pm or e-m back and forth so there is no misunderstanding. Yet to have any issues as buyer or seller.
I have had an e-m or 2 asking what the sale price was, usually from some one who tried to low ball me, using the well my friend brought one for X less than you are selling for. Unless the seller or buyer want's to post what we agreed upon it is really no one's business outside the deal.

[Mazin]

I delete the price and mark it SPF moving to SOLD after the deal is sealed. I do keep the price agreed upon in the pm or e-m back and forth so there is no misunderstanding. Yet to have any issues as buyer or seller.
I have had an e-m or 2 asking what the sale price was, usually from some one who tried to low ball me, using the well my friend brought one for X less than you are selling for. Unless the seller or buyer want's to post what we agreed upon it is really no one's business outside the deal.


He was referencing what Ginsue said about leaving the ad up so people can use that as maybe a rough price for thier Items that they want to sell, you can't get the price if the OP marks it as spf or sold and deletes the price out of the ad. Therfore its pointless to keep the thread up and it shoud be deleted

[SideShow Bob]

I have had an e-m or 2 asking what the sale price was, usually from some one who tried to low ball me, using the well my friend brought one for X less than you are selling for. Unless the seller or buyer want's to post what we agreed upon it is really no one's business outside the deal.

I have also had this happen, bothas a seller and a buyer, and even posted in the thread.
If I am the seller I leave it up to the buyer,if he/she wants to post how badly I took them for. [LOL]
If I am the buyer I just ignore them, it is none of their business what I got taken for. [Mad]

[sniper7]

Ban them