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Anyone have good experience with night-vision mono under for around $400 (used or new) There are a few models, but when they go up to $2-3000, you wonder what you are getting. Can't really try them out at the store.
DANGERTASTIC!
09-21-2011, 15:31
Walmart man. In the toy aisle. 35 bucks
jerrymrc
09-21-2011, 16:06
There were these surplus unissued for around $250 a year ago. http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac44/jerrymrc/toys/canning120Medium.jpg
Don't scimp on the optics.. You truly "get what you pay for".
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They have them out there not everyone has a frigging $2000 monocle.
Thas why I askin, what will a $400.00 jobber do and whats a good one. Don't any of yous peoples look around at night to see whats walking around (when your huntin), or....?
Great-Kazoo
09-21-2011, 18:51
=(*@$@)+(*#$@&&&)$))l..
They have them out there not everyone has a frigging $2000 monocle.
Thas why I askin, what will a $400.00 jobber do and whats a good one. Don't any of yous peoples look around at night to see whats walking around (when your huntin), or....?
dude what a tude:(
FWIW: Atrain has a basic monocular for a good price.
I thought it was funny. An I talk in abreviation, which isnt serious... anyways, found this but I know enough not to trust site reviews, no field review...:
http://www.atncorp.com/atn-mo4-1-nightvision-monocular
jerrymrc
09-21-2011, 19:29
rocktot, Relax guy. You post like a Charlie da knife WTB ad. :) There are some inexpensive ones out there. Currently Big 5 has ones for $99 (3.8 power reg $199) and a 5 power for $159 (reg $229). The $159 one is good till the 24th.
I have thought about the 5 power just to try. At these prices I would not expect much but if it gets you out to 100 yards then I know I would be happy.
My Russian Gen-1 will shoot 10" groups at 200 yards with a 1/4 moon and is a true starlight with IR detection. I do need to try it farther out as some have posted that it is good to 400 yards. I am sure that when it was new it was not cheap.
And yes, there are very nice ones out there but like you said not everyone has the $2K to spend. My thought is that something is better than nothing. [Coffee] Just a thought.
mcantar18c
09-21-2011, 19:46
I've never gotten into the NV stuff because of the cost, but if there are Gen 1s floating around for under $500 I'd definitely be interested.
Jerry, do you have a source for those Russian surplus ones?
jerrymrc
09-21-2011, 20:09
I've never gotten into the NV stuff because of the cost, but if there are Gen 1s floating around for under $500 I'd definitely be interested.
Jerry, do you have a source for those Russian surplus ones?
I have a link at work. These all came from Finland that were surplus. Most were NIB with all the acc. One guy found a deal and was selling them here. From what I could tell 100-200 came in.
At $249 shipped god only knows what he paid for them. I will post a link tomorrow. I do know that only through one forum they sold out in a couple of months once the reviews came in. I have range cams for the PSL/AKM/RPG and a couple of others. It was all new. batteries, spare lightbulbs, hoods, day filter. Mine is converted to use 2 Rechargeable AA batteries. It was built in 85.
Once you get used to the "fisheye" effect it is a very nice piece. Thoughts were that it was inferior to the AN/PVS-4 but was on par with it for the effective range. For the cost I love it. [Coffee]
having looked through both gen 1 and gen 3 tubes, i can say that i see where the money goes. i don't have that kind of cash to spend, but it is well spent. gen 3 blows gen 1 to the moon. ive never seen gen 2 and am kind of interested how it is since its a third the cost of gen 3. gen 1 would be ok for walking outside when camping or something along those lines, but it blurs, majorly fisheye's, and has a very short distance. i could walk around with gen 3's all night long. you can see basically as far as normal vision and it is often very crisp and clear. i wish i had pure cash lying around id love to buy some, or some phosphorus ones.
im not saying don't go with gen 1. if you really want some basic night vision go for it. but be aware of what you are buying. im not sure you will be happy if your drop 400 bones, you might be pissed and often gen 1 is hard to resell. it would be a huge benefit to try some different models out to see if its worth the cost, i just don't know where you could do that.
Its not for hunting, but I would like 1000 foot distance, whats out there type thing. But for 250 a Russian Job might do the trick. Gen 3,aint gonna happen, unless its surplus but even then it would be over $1500.00. Russia has lots of good cheap stuff, I saw a gieger counter for like $60.00 working.
Great-Kazoo
09-21-2011, 22:29
Its not for hunting, but I would like 1000 foot distance, whats out there type thing. But for 250 a Russian Job might do the trick. Gen 3,aint gonna happen, unless its surplus but even then it would be over $1500.00. Russia has lots of good cheap stuff, I saw a gieger counter for like $60.00 working.
300 yards ain't happening with a gen 1 or any sub $1-2K unit. Go here read Victors info and rethink NV
http://www.tnvc.com/
jerrymrc
09-22-2011, 06:05
I've never gotten into the NV stuff because of the cost, but if there are Gen 1s floating around for under $500 I'd definitely be interested.
Jerry, do you have a source for those Russian surplus ones?
Here is a link to the thread that I started with. It has other links to follow. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?103631-Nspu-1pn34
300 yards ain't happening with a gen 1 or any sub $1-2K unit. Go here read Victors info and rethink NV
http://www.tnvc.com/
unfortunately jim is right. even if you could technically see that far it wouldn't be at all clear. i agree its a bummer because ive always been fascinated with night vision and wanted some myself, but from what i have seen and read you need to spend at least $1000 to get anything even remotely useable. i admit i don't know everything so there may be options i am not aware of, but a lot of those russian ones are very, very basic level from the 1980's. generation 1 of most of the major producers today will be better than those.e,
i think your best bet if you want a decent pair is to try to save to about $1500. in that range you can buy decent brand new ones and very good used ones. people sell them all the time on calguns, m4carbine, snipershide, etc. often times a $3000 unit will fetch around $1500, especially in an economic climate like this. people need to sell stuff and sell it fast.
I have a Gen2+ D300 Milspec monocular that I got used for $1k. It works almost as well as the PVS-14s I was issued before. Haven't done a proper side by side comparison, but they work pretty well. They use the same J-arm and other mount equipment as PVS-14s do.
Beats dropping $3k on PVS-14s that I'm hardly ever going to use anyways. Don't think I'd want to go cheaper though.
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