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Bailey Guns
09-21-2011, 19:10
First off, it sounds like the detectives investigating this case did an amazing job. Finding this guy through TV programming and distinctive motel furnishings in the video background? That's freakin' awesome.

Now. I could put a bullet right between this scumbag's running lights and never think twice about it. His life is worth less than the .30 cent bullet I'd use.

Colorado Man Charged With Raping Baby (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29255687/detail.html)

Suspect Videotaped Rape, Shared It Online

enthusiast
09-21-2011, 19:13
Yes!

TEAMRICO
09-21-2011, 19:17
Been hearing abou it all day and it makes me sick to my stomach every time it is mentioned. I would make it slow, painful and excrustiating!

trlcavscout
09-21-2011, 19:18
I wouldnt shoot him, I would beat him repeatedly for weeks!!! Then feed him to the bears.

Mazin
09-21-2011, 19:19
Couldn't even hit the link I would throw up...... So when do we mount up???


I just got a game processing kit last year and have been wanting to break out the game shears.

clublights
09-21-2011, 19:23
the question is not would I shoot him .. it's how many mag changes I would have to do ........

Squeeze
09-21-2011, 19:24
I think I'd break out the "special toys" and take my sweet time with this guy.

brianakell
09-21-2011, 19:26
Id put him in a field, and give a pebble to every sexually abused person in the country. Problem solved

Mazin
09-21-2011, 19:27
I just got a game processing kit last year and have been wanting to break out the game shears.


Just a reminder...It has a rib spreader.

mevshooter
09-21-2011, 19:33
When he goes to jail, he will literally have his genitals stomped off before being slowly and brutally beaten to death.

That's probably the only thing about the prison system that I am a fan of, prison officers and inmates unite on this one thing.

trout_champ
09-21-2011, 19:39
Just have to figure a way to do it. A bullet would be getting off easy.

Randy

mcantar18c
09-21-2011, 19:52
Kill?
I don't think I could bring myself to do that. He doesn't deserve it.

I might be tempted to dig my tools out of the garage though. Them things can be pretty dangerous, it'd be a shame to get your knuckles caught in a c-clamp or a dremel tool fall onto your teeth, or to slip and get your skull stuck in a bench vice...

Mazin
09-21-2011, 20:06
Just a reminder...It has a rib spreader.


And some really nice skinning knives.

colocowboy01
09-21-2011, 20:08
Couldn't even hit the link I would throw up...... So when do we mount up???


I just got a game processing kit last year and have been wanting to break out the game shears.


+1^^

blacklabel
09-21-2011, 20:38
I saw the headline earlier today and tried to avoid reading the story until now. This sick bastard needs to be tortured. He doesn't deserve to die a painless death.

Let the victim's dad at him.

tmckay2
09-21-2011, 20:43
have no fear. the kind of welcome this guy will get in prison will be epic. inmates HATE child molesters, and being a baby is just going to further fuel that. its quite amazing how unified inmates are on this one thing. doesn't matter gang relation or anything. its actually considered sickening if you DON'T mess these guys up at first chance.

Drilldov2.0
09-21-2011, 20:43
I wouldn't waste .30 cents on this scumbag Bailey. A rifle butt and a few hours would suffice.

MattR
09-21-2011, 20:43
"I'll stare the bastard in the face as he screams to God, and I'll laugh harder when he whimpers like a baby. And when his eyes go dead, the hell I send him to will seem like heaven after what I've done to him."http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ45RSD3CIoFGoj9Omhpf9NV53-Fg3-9DCRYSlioj0z3P120zoC

cstone
09-21-2011, 20:46
I am glad that I didn't have to investigate this case or sit on a jury to hear the evidence.

I believe there is justice for everyone, if not in this life, then in the next.

Wanting to meet out punishment to fit the crime is natural and normally my first instinct. Then I remember that six amendments down from our beloved second amendment is the eighth amendment which prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.

If I was forced to guess what the future holds for this very twisted criminal, I would predict a suicide while in custody.

Give your kids a hug. Be very careful who you allow into your home, and while I know these types of crime will always occur, I pray no one who reads this will ever have any first hand experience remotely like this nightmare.

Be safe citizens.

Drilldov2.0
09-21-2011, 20:53
I am glad that I didn't have to investigate this case or sit on a jury to hear the evidence.

I believe there is justice for everyone, if not in this life, then in the next.

Wanting to meet out punishment to fit the crime is natural and normally my first instinct. Then I remember that six amendments down from our beloved second amendment is the eighth amendment which prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.

If I was forced to guess what the future holds for this very twisted criminal, I would predict a suicide while in custody.

Give your kids a hug. Be very careful who you allow into your home, and while I know these types of crime will always occur, I pray no one who reads this will ever have any first hand experience remotely like this nightmare.

Be safe citizens.

Yep, the baby received cruel and unusual punishment for nothing. The asswipe who did it should receive the same, tenfold.

Colorado Luckydog
09-21-2011, 20:56
This story put a tear in my eye and fear in my heart. I can't believe there are animals that exist like this guy.

What a good job by the police to put him away. Gives a guy hope.

Yes, I could shoot someone like him, if I caught him in the act. I would also be willing to pull the handle for his execution if found guilty.

DANGERTASTIC!
09-21-2011, 20:57
Just have to figure a way to do it. A bullet would be getting off easy.

Randy

+1000. Bullets....maybe a full mag to the feet and shins.

Then you would need something to keep him from passing out. An I.V drip or something.


You start at his legs and work your way up. Make him eat his own dick.

Elhuero
09-21-2011, 21:18
hmmmm... my thoughts on death as a penalty are complicated.

68Charger
09-21-2011, 21:20
wow, just wow.. pathetic excuse for a mammal...

It makes me sad he'll be sent to California, where justice is less likely to be served... they don't use their death penalty... we can only hope he doesn't get solitary, and whatever sentence he's given turns into death.

Those that have been involved in discussions about sex offenders with me on this site would know I'm not quick to judge, but I can't find a reason to forgive this scum- he is evil personified.

DSB OUTDOORS
09-21-2011, 21:22
I didn't even have to click the link to the story!! Yes I could and would end it!! And I would not have to think twice about it!!

tmleadr03
09-21-2011, 21:26
There is this trick I read in a book once. Always wanted to try it. Involves a decompression chamber and about 2 weeks time.

sometimesright
09-21-2011, 21:30
Give your kids a hug. Be very careful who you allow into your home, and while I know these types of crime will always occur, I pray no one who reads this will ever have any first hand experience remotely like this nightmare.

Be safe citizens.

+1 Well said, and giving all due credit to the author of this post and intending no disrespect whatsoever, I would even go so far as to delete the words "who reads this." If no one ever has any first hand experience with something like this, that means it will never happen again. I realize I am making a huge assumption, am taking some liberty with a portion of his post, and perhaps may be wishful thinking; but I have a hunch cstone would be in agreement.

Byte Stryke
09-21-2011, 23:02
well I for one fully believe he should be sentenced to time in our penal system instead of death.














Death is too merciful,
The instant the other inmate find out what he did he will get pounded harder than the beaches at Normandy.

His Asshole will look like Eisenhower tunnel after a week

Atrain1
09-21-2011, 23:09
This story put a tear in my eye and fear in my heart. I can't believe there are animals that exist like this guy.

What a good job by the police to put him away. Gives a guy hope.

Yes, I could shoot someone like him, if I caught him in the act. I would also be willing to pull the handle for his execution if found guilty. Same here man I think about that poor poor baby crying out. It definitely hurts my heart. I would love to get ahold of that guy out in the middle of no were, inside a place I can take my time with him and no one can hear him scream, probably like no one heard that innocent baby who is just six months younger than my youngest boy. I am thinking more along the lines of a baseball bat lined with Razor blades and stick that in his ass over and over to show him how it feels. Then clamp down a pair of vice grips on his balls and slowly tighten them, right before cutting is dick off and letting him choke on it.

Flatline
09-21-2011, 23:26
The death penalty is against my religious values and morals. Life in general population is just fine, and with what he did, I guess its the same thing anyway.

Atrain1
09-21-2011, 23:32
The death penalty is against my religious values and morals. Life in general population is just fine, and with what he did, I guess its the same thing anyway. Look what happened to that poor baby. Screw your religious values and morals if it protects people like that from what they deserve. I bet you would not be saying that if it were your kids. I bet if we Killed every molester that was found guilty, or better yet let the fathers deal out there punishment, there would be alot less kids being harmed. Our laws are way to lenient and that is why it keeps on happening. Why dont you look in the bible and see what our GOD in HEAVEN feels about children being harmed.

TSOTSI
09-21-2011, 23:52
I would definitely have him eat his own dick for starters. After that stitch his mouth closed, get him a little bloody and haul to the local hog farm. Make sure he is wide awake so he can see and feel what the hogs are having for dinner.

sniper7
09-21-2011, 23:53
well I for one fully believe he should be sentenced to time in our penal system instead of death.




Death is too merciful,
The instant the other inmate find out what he did he will get pounded harder than the beaches at Normandy.

His Asshole will look like Eisenhower tunnel after a week

I just drove through there. I wonder if his asshole will get better radio reception?

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 00:01
I would definitely have him eat his own dick for starters. After that stitch his mouth closed, get him a little bloody and haul to the local hog farm. Make sure he is wide awake so he can see and feel what the hogs are having for dinner. See if this type of stuff were to happen to the scum that harm our children, I bet they would start thinking twice before doing it again. It is not safe for our kids to even walk around I feel like I have to keep my kids in a bubble all the time. It is my biggest fear loosing one of my kids or having some sick scumbag molest one of them, they are my world and I could not go on without them.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 00:10
As to the original question (could I end this persons life) the answer is most definitely yes, but it would be a very painful and slow death. I cried and held my son when I read that story. It made me think about my Sons and if it was one of them crying out for Daddy but Daddy was not there to save them, and also the pain that poor baby had to go through. We have to watch our children very carefully. I worry about mine all day when I am at work, it sucks I love coming home and seeing them get all happy when they see me.

cstone
09-22-2011, 00:13
Look what happened to that poor baby. Screw your religious values and morals if it protects people like that from what they deserve. I bet you would not be saying that if it were your kids. I bet if we Killed every molester that was found guilty, or better yet let the fathers deal out there punishment, there would be alot less kids being harmed. Our laws are way to lenient and that is why it keeps on happening.

Would you do that before or after he is given a fair trial and convicted by a jury of his peers? I just want to know what you would want if, God forbid, you are ever accused of any crime.

I also am not sure how torturing criminals protects children. Death penalties don't deter criminal behavior anymore than locks stop thieves. When the State executes a criminal it is basically making a statement that this person has no right to exist among civilized people and this person has no hope of redemption. The State has that right and I am glad that We the People are the State.

As far as screwing anyone's religious values and morals for the sake of protecting people, watch how far down that road you want to travel. Historically that is a pretty rough road with some nasty repercussions.

I don't disagree with anyone who would like to take some revenge against criminals like this. Payback is a natural human desire. I also know just how imperfect the system is and understand why some of the safe guards, like the Eighth Amendment, are in place. It isn't a perfect system, but it beats the heck out of mob rule. Victims have a say in the process, but they don't get to be judges and executioners. I can't imagine the grief this child's family is going through and will have to live with for the rest of their lives. They will never be the same again.

This criminal was caught. No one should be so naive to believe there aren't plenty more sick, twisted criminals out there just as bad, if not worse, then him. I'm sorry to say that I believe that criminals like this one will always exist. It is not in our power to exterminate them all.

I believe that everyone faces judgment someday. Some sooner than others. There are things worse than death.

Just my $.02

cstone
09-22-2011, 00:22
See if this type of stuff were to happen to the scum that harm our children, I bet they would start thinking twice before doing it again. It is not safe for our kids to even walk around I feel like I have to keep my kids in a bubble all the time. It is my biggest fear loosing one of my kids or having some sick scumbag molest one of them, they are my world and I could not go on without them.

I think you give the "scum" too much credit when it comes to thinking twice. Most never think once, much less get to thinking twice.

I have three children. Two are grown and out of the house (19 and 21) and one is in middle school. While they are my pride and joy in life, I live with the same fear of losing them or not being able to protect them from every bad thing. I try not to let them know just how anxious I am for their well being because fear is contagious and prolonged exposure kills the joy of life.

I pray for all of our sakes, that no one ever has to go through anything like this ever again. Sadly, I am a realist. It has happened before and will happen again.

It sounds like you are a good Dad. Not as good as Byte [ROFL2] Just kidding. We all do the best we can and pray we don't come up short in our duty.

Vigilance knows no rest.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 00:22
Would you do that before or after he is given a fair trial and convicted by a jury of his peers? I just want to know what you would want if, God forbid, you are ever accused of any crime.

I also am not sure how torturing criminals protects children. Death penalties don't deter criminal behavior anymore than locks stop thieves. When the State executes a criminal it is basically making a statement that this person has no right to exist among civilized people and this person has no hope of redemption. The State has that right and I am glad that We the People are the State.

As far as screwing anyone's religious values and morals for the sake of protecting people, watch how far down that road you want to travel. Historically that is a pretty rough road with some nasty repercussions.

I don't disagree with anyone who would like to take some revenge against criminals like this. Payback is a natural human desire. I also know just how imperfect the system is and understand why some of the safe guards, like the Eighth Amendment, are in place. It isn't a perfect system, but it beats the heck out of mob rule. Victims have a say in the process, but they don't get to be judges and executioners. I can't imagine the grief this child's family is going through and will have to live with for the rest of their lives. They will never be the same again.

This criminal was caught. No one should be so naive to believe there aren't plenty more sick, twisted criminals out there just as bad, if not worse, then him. I'm sorry to say that I believe that criminals like this one will always exist. It is not in our power to exterminate them all.

I believe that everyone faces judgment someday. Some sooner than others. There are things worse than death.

Just my $.02 I agree that there are things worse than death. Like facing GOD and having to answer for the sin of molesting a baby. Now my point was if we were aloud to torture these scumbags as we see fit after their trial I believe there would be alot less crimes against our children. Our justice system sucks and there is not enough punishment for these pieces of crap.

DOC
09-22-2011, 00:25
We need a real life Saw for people like him.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 00:32
I think you give the "scum" too much credit when it comes to thinking twice. Most never think once, much less get to thinking twice.

I have three children. Two are grown and out of the house (19 and 21) and one is in middle school. While they are my pride and joy in life, I live with the same fear of losing them or not being able to protect them from every bad thing. I try not to let them know just how anxious I am for their well being because fear is contagious and prolonged exposure kills the joy of life.

I pray for all of our sakes, that no one ever has to go through anything like this ever again. Sadly, I am a realist. It has happened before and will happen again.

It sounds like you are a good Dad. Not as good as Byte [ROFL2] Just kidding. We all do the best we can and pray we don't come up short in our duty.

Vigilance knows no rest. I know he feeling it is always there. I wish it was still like it was when I was a kid, I could play outside and walk to dairy queen to get a free ice cream cone with my friends with the coupons we cut off of the back of a cereal box, and no one had to worry about us.

Outlaw1
09-22-2011, 00:33
Very bad things need to happen to him. Now.

cstone
09-22-2011, 00:49
I know he feeling it is always there. I wish it was still like it was when I was a kid, I could play outside and walk to dairy queen to get a free ice cream cone with my friends with the coupons we cut off of the back of a cereal box, and no one had to worry about us.

Summers for me - Go out to play as soon as the sun came up and come home when the street lights come on. Unless I was bleeding, something was broken, or one of the neighbors was complaining to them, my parents never asked me what I was doing all day. They were busy working and taking care of all the things that really mattered. They loved and cared about me and my sister, but they were busy being responsible adults. I know kids in my neighborhood who were molested by "friends of the family." Their parents were busy too.

The cliche is: Shit happens. Sometimes it is really, really bad shit and you will never be the same afterwards. I wish I knew why bad things happen. I wish I could always spot it and predict when and where it was going to happen. I can't.

For me, the only thing that makes sense is the faith I have that there is a reason for everything. Since I can't know everything, I have to be satisfied with knowing what I know and doing my best. The rest I leave in God's hands.

That won't help this grieving family. Nothing will ever make this right for them. Nothing.

Outlaw1
09-22-2011, 01:03
It is not in our power to exterminate them all.

Maybe not, but we can damned sure try.

If you got a phone call that your child was filmed while being raped and they had the person who did it in custody, would you be so diplomatic about it?

Graves
09-22-2011, 01:16
Prick!
I for one can't say who's to blame but it's the most sickening story I've heard in a while.

cstone
09-22-2011, 01:16
Maybe not, but we can damned sure try.

If you got a phone call that your child was filmed while being raped and they had the person who did it in custody, would you be so diplomatic about it?

I pray that I never have to find out.

Of course I would want to torture and repeatedly kill the animal who did that to my child. I understand the desire.

I also understand what I believe to be right and what I believe to be wrong. I speak for me and me alone. I support and will defend the entire Constitution, not just the parts that I like at any given moment.

You, of course are entitled to think, say, believe what you wish. That is covered in our Constitution as well [Beer]

Flatline
09-22-2011, 01:31
Look what happened to that poor baby. Screw your religious values and morals if it protects people like that from what they deserve. I bet you would not be saying that if it were your kids. I bet if we Killed every molester that was found guilty, or better yet let the fathers deal out there punishment, there would be alot less kids being harmed. Our laws are way to lenient and that is why it keeps on happening. Why dont you look in the bible and see what our GOD in HEAVEN feels about children being harmed.


I just feel that at this point, we have him in custody and have the ability to put him in jail for the rest of his life. At this point killing him is just revenge. The Lord should decide his eternal fate in heaven, I do not know a single person on this planet capable of determining what God wants of him.

To me our penal system (both in society and as a human race) has two purposes, either to rehabilitate or to separate those who cannot be rehabilitated from society. This man cannot be rehabilitated, so our place it to keep him from offending again, to which life in prison should suffice.

If my kids were the victims I would not want the death penalty. Killing him fixes nothing. That being said if somehow he was not convicted and roamed our streets, your damn right I'd kill him.

People's religious and moral views are what direct our way through life. I cannot imagine anybody who is not disturbed and angry by this mans horrendous actions, and every body is entitled to their own emotional reactions and options.

I once took care of a 7 year old kid who had planned to commit suicide and had made an unsuccessful gesture. He grew up in a single mother house hold, and his 11 year old sister had made suicidal threats and thus had attention given to her as a result. He has no idea of permanence, he did not understand that death was forever and was willing to kill himself for his mother's attention. Surely killing a child is worth the death penalty if molestation is. Should we kill his sister? She had been the direct example he had followed. Should we kill his mother? She did not give him enough attention, or provide for counselling in regards to his sister's behaviour and how it was inappropriate. Maybe we should kill his father, he was the reason the sister had problems after all.

Our job in a situation like this is to resolve the problem. With the seven year old putting someone in prison would solve nothing, let alone the death penalty. The whole family was in need of support and counselling.
That sick pervert will never be fixed, and killing him does nothing to sooth the pain for the families or the victims. He needs to be separated for society. The moment he touches the fence I hope the guard in the tower shoots him dead, but if he as a threat is managed by the prison then he should rot there.

I understand that I am new here and I hope that I'm not stepping on anybody's toes, these are just my opinions. So far I cannot blame anyone's opinion in here, they are just not mine. I will only become concerned when someone says that he can be rehabilitated or should be free.

alxone
09-22-2011, 07:19
I also understand what I believe to be right and what I believe to be wrong. I speak for me and me alone. I support and will defend the entire Constitution, not just the parts that I like at any given moment.

You, of course are entitled to think, say, believe what you wish. That is covered in our Constitution as well [Beer]
well played sir and i 100% agree [Beer]
ill settle with prison justice in this case . the cons are gonna get even for the world . i hope they line up and tear that ass apart every day for years . that dumb son of a bitch is is gonna be in a living hell till the day he dies then he gets to go to the real hell .

my question is , how in the world does someone raise a child molester and not know it ?also how many more children has that asshole done this to ?

TSOTSI
09-22-2011, 07:26
Would you do that before or after he is given a fair trial and convicted by a jury of his peers? I just want to know what you would want if, God forbid, you are ever accused of any crime.

Herein lies the biggest problem with this "one size fits all" approach to this process. It is corrupt. It has been corrupted by money, political agendas, egos and libruls. That is why it is possible for someone to be caught on film perpetrating a crime and never to see the inside of a courtroom because some librul scum judge decided the way the tape was obtained wasn't correct.


I also am not sure how torturing criminals protects children.

The ignorance of this statement is evidence of why perps have realized they can operate with impunity. Thank God national security isn't left to this mindset. (actually I take that back. At the moment it is)
Back to your question. How about Jessica Lunsford?



Death penalties don't deter criminal behavior anymore than locks stop thieves. When the State executes a criminal it is basically making a statement that this person has no right to exist among civilized people and this person has no hope of redemption. The State has that right and I am glad that We the People are the State.

Another great gift to America courtesy of libruls. The purposeful insulation of the public from the consequences of crime. The purpose of punishment is two fold. First is to punish the perp. But even more important than that is to serve as a lesson to the rest of society what happens when you commit crime. The metering out of punishment in the public square worked for centuries till the advent of the "feminized male" Libruls have removed this tool because it isn't "NICE". "Oh they can't deal with it" is their favorite line. That is why the sheeple can get fed the line that they aren't capable of dealing with pics of a dead OBL etc etc....
It is the same mindset that has produced a generation that thinks Safeway and KingSoopers make meat in the back room.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs152.snc4/36962_136226389743854_100000694813101_226493_71110 32_n.jpg

Mtn.man
09-22-2011, 07:36
Long and slow, native american ways.

alxone
09-22-2011, 07:47
Long and slow, native american ways.i always thought the wet leather wrapped tight so it gets even tighter in the sun was a pretty good native punishment

Mtn.man
09-22-2011, 08:15
Buried up to your chest, in an ant bed.

Ronin13
09-22-2011, 09:30
Anyone ever see the movie "Untraceable" with Diane Lane? I'd do the acid bath or the IV with the chemicals that make you bleed out.... a quick death is too nice for this sick-o!

Lex_Luthor
09-22-2011, 09:44
I don't know if I could ever kill someone, even in a self defense situation. But if I had seen that man do that, I know I could have. And I probably would.

ghettodub
09-22-2011, 09:45
Death is too good for this guy. Torture to near death, let him heal, and repeat.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 10:02
Buried up to your chest, in an ant bed. You know what is crazy I was going to say the same exact thing. I seen it in a show I was watching the other night.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 12:21
I just feel that at this point, we have him in custody and have the ability to put him in jail for the rest of his life. At this point killing him is just revenge. The Lord should decide his eternal fate in heaven, I do not know a single person on this planet capable of determining what God wants of him.

To me our penal system (both in society and as a human race) has two purposes, either to rehabilitate or to separate those who cannot be rehabilitated from society. This man cannot be rehabilitated, so our place it to keep him from offending again, to which life in prison should suffice.

If my kids were the victims I would not want the death penalty. Killing him fixes nothing. That being said if somehow he was not convicted and roamed our streets, your damn right I'd kill him.

People's religious and moral views are what direct our way through life. I cannot imagine anybody who is not disturbed and angry by this mans horrendous actions, and every body is entitled to their own emotional reactions and options.

I once took care of a 7 year old kid who had planned to commit suicide and had made an unsuccessful gesture. He grew up in a single mother house hold, and his 11 year old sister had made suicidal threats and thus had attention given to her as a result. He has no idea of permanence, he did not understand that death was forever and was willing to kill himself for his mother's attention. Surely killing a child is worth the death penalty if molestation is. Should we kill his sister? She had been the direct example he had followed. Should we kill his mother? She did not give him enough attention, or provide for counselling in regards to his sister's behaviour and how it was inappropriate. Maybe we should kill his father, he was the reason the sister had problems after all.

Our job in a situation like this is to resolve the problem. With the seven year old putting someone in prison would solve nothing, let alone the death penalty. The whole family was in need of support and counselling.
That sick pervert will never be fixed, and killing him does nothing to sooth the pain for the families or the victims. He needs to be separated for society. The moment he touches the fence I hope the guard in the tower shoots him dead, but if he as a threat is managed by the prison then he should rot there.

I understand that I am new here and I hope that I'm not stepping on anybody's toes, these are just my opinions. So far I cannot blame anyone's opinion in here, they are just not mine. I will only become concerned when someone says that he can be rehabilitated or should be free.Here is were the problem is he wont be in jail for the rest of his life and will be out to do it again, so his life should be taken from him so he can not harm another child. I lost sleep last night over this I do not know why it has made such an impact on me cause I have never wanted to hurt some one like this in my life. I am not a violent person at all if you ask anyone who knows me they will tell you that i have a huge heart and I am a very kind non violent person. I want this guy to pay for what he did.

Mtn.man
09-22-2011, 12:54
Pound your bible all you want. Get rid of the pos and make society a little better.

Ronin13
09-22-2011, 13:06
Pound your bible all you want. Get rid of the pos and make society a little better.

I agree- the whole cop out of "letting the lord almighty handle it" is just insulting to those who don't follow the Christian ideas... what if G-O-D doesn't exist?

TFOGGER
09-22-2011, 13:09
I could end this monster's existence without anger or remorse. Torture serves no purpose unless it is well publicized, so best to terminate the threat permanently, as we have become too "civilized" to tolerate making an example of him.


Although the Pear of Anguish (http://www.medievality.com/pear-of-anguish.html) would be a fitting execution method...

USMC 2111
09-22-2011, 13:17
Without thinking twice.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 13:26
Pound your bible all you want. Get rid of the pos and make society a little better. I agree

Ronin13
09-22-2011, 14:08
I could end this monster's existence without anger or remorse. Torture serves no purpose unless it is well publicized, so best to terminate the threat permanently, as we have become too "civilized" to tolerate making an example of him.


Although the Pear of Anguish (http://www.medievality.com/pear-of-anguish.html) would be a fitting execution method...

Holy shit! Why didn't we issue the Pear of Anguish to ST6 when they went in for OBL? Sure he resisted but if they could subdue him this would be quite fitting!
Good method of punishment for rapists such as the one featured here.

Atrain1
09-22-2011, 17:36
Holy shit! Why didn't we issue the Pear of Anguish to ST6 when they went in for OBL? Sure he resisted but if they could subdue him this would be quite fitting!
Good method of punishment for rapists such as the one featured here. Thats what I am talking about and open it all the way just for starters. This sick POS has been bothering me all day I think people in this country should grow a pair and do away with the 8th amendment. BLOOD FOR BLOOD that POS needs to pay for what he has done the right way. And anyone who disagrees with me either does not have kids or you are not being truthful with yourself.

Mazin
09-22-2011, 17:59
Just heard from my wife about how he got caught.......No doubt about it FUCKING SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Mad][Mad][Mad][Mad]

GhostRider
09-22-2011, 18:02
I'll donate the ammo, any cal

nice job to the LE's for the job they done finding this animal

Mazin
09-22-2011, 18:14
Oh and letting justice put him in prison for the rest of his life is BS. Anyone Hanous enough to perform that act is pure evil and needs to be delt with. As far as "religous beliefs" go I'm also a christian and the the thing that sticks in my mind is the verse

"It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." Luke 17 1-2


I know it also understand one of the commandments says "thou shalt not murder"

There are also verses pertaining to killing and war.

There is a time to do those things and reasons to do so as well. I know he will be delt with but I'm human and still have fits of carnality just like the Lord said I would, but alas in this case I would give him the worse most tormentfull train ride straight to hell.

rockhound
09-22-2011, 22:53
and i would sleep like a baby that night

Elhuero
09-23-2011, 00:28
I'm not against killing. in a self defense situation or a fight against tyranny it's par for the course.

and I'm not against the death penalty. if the murderer is convicted, then save taxpayer money and off his ass. big bore bullet to the base of the brain. instant death. can't get more humane than that.

if you murder, the only way you can make recompense is by forfeiting your own life. but I'm against someone giving up their life if they haven't taken a life

some will say "oh, but he did take the boy's life away. the kid will never be the same. yadda yadda" sounds like crap to me. the kid is still breathing, the guy should spend the rest of his days turning big rocks into little rocks.

now if he raped and murdered the kid, well... find a spot, hand him a shovel. when he's done digging give him a cold drink of water and pop him in melon.

Outlaw1
09-23-2011, 00:46
I support and will defend the entire Constitution, not just the parts that I like at any given moment.

The second that man began to rape that innocent child he gave up his Constitutional rights.

Flatline
09-23-2011, 00:47
I agree- the whole cop out of "letting the lord almighty handle it" is just insulting to those who don't follow the Christian ideas... what if G-O-D doesn't exist?

What if God doesn't exist. Does that change your morals or ethics compared to Christians? Should the lack of eternal salvation/damnation/a stop in purgatory (if catholic/angelican) change the way we guide our decisions and behaviors in life? I guess that the answer will vary.


Oh and letting justice put him in prison for the rest of his life is BS. Anyone Hanous enough to perform that act is pure evil and needs to be delt with. As far as "religous beliefs" go I'm also a christian and the the thing that sticks in my mind is the verse

"It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones." Luke 17 1-2


Hold on, Let me break that down for you. The offences referred to are the attempt to dissuade Christians from their belief in Christ.

And the little ones has three posibilites. 1 that we are all created in God's image, therefore we are all God's children, therefore "one of these little ones." 2 that the little ones are the Christians as a whole, Christ's believers, God's children. 3 An actual reference to children (pediatrics, juveniles, ect...).
2 is the most common interpretation, with 3 still being a good size chunk. 1 is not common, as it doesn't make sense in context with verse 1.

Regardless of the above, I suggest you read Luke 17 3-4 should you try to use Luke 17 1-2 to illustrate your opinions on Christian vengeance.

"Punishment is justice for the unjust," St. Augustine of Hippo

rondog
09-23-2011, 00:59
How about tying him to a sheet of plywood, in the sun, about...say...800-1000 yards out, and then slowly taking potshots at him with a .22 rifle? Keep poking shallow little holes in him until he stops leaking. Extra points for hits on the plywood to make him squirm more when he hears the impacts of the near misses.

I also like the hog food idea.

Atrain1
09-23-2011, 05:21
I'm not against killing. in a self defense situation or a fight against tyranny it's par for the course.

and I'm not against the death penalty. if the murderer is convicted, then save taxpayer money and off his ass. big bore bullet to the base of the brain. instant death. can't get more humane than that.

if you murder, the only way you can make recompense is by forfeiting your own life. but I'm against someone giving up their life if they haven't taken a life

some will say "oh, but he did take the boy's life away. the kid will never be the same. yadda yadda" sounds like crap to me. the kid is still breathing, the guy should spend the rest of his days turning big rocks into little rocks.

now if he raped and murdered the kid, well... find a spot, hand him a shovel. when he's done digging give him a cold drink of water and pop him in melon. I bet if it were your kid you would be singing a different tune. That sorry pile of crap needs to pay for harming a baby not even a little kid a BABY he raped a BABY and you dont think he needs to die, what is wrong with you. He needs to die a slow and very painful death.

Motley
09-23-2011, 06:49
I bet if it were your kid you would be singing a different tune. That sorry pile of crap needs to pay for harming a baby not even a little kid a BABY he raped a BABY and you dont think he needs to die, what is wrong with you. He needs to die a slow and very painful death.

I can't understand how anyone can be pro-death penalty, and not think babyrapers should be killed.[Dunno]

Ronin13
09-23-2011, 12:35
I can't understand how anyone can be pro-death penalty, and not think babyrapers should be killed.[Dunno]

Exactly! Has anyone here actually ever been raped? I know a few people who have- and if you look at the technicality I have before -sort of: she got me very drunk and was taken advantage of by a woman that I would otherwise have 0 interest in. Yes men can be raped by women. I know a few guys who were raped by men (one of them was by a step uncle), and it is a life changing event. You feel violated, vulnerable, and different. So I believe that murder or not, you rape someone you die.

Atrain1
09-23-2011, 12:52
Exactly! Has anyone here actually ever been raped? I know a few people who have- and if you look at the technicality I have before -sort of: she got me very drunk and was taken advantage of by a woman that I would otherwise have 0 interest in. Yes men can be raped by women. I know a few guys who were raped by men (one of them was by a step uncle), and it is a life changing event. You feel violated, vulnerable, and different. So I believe that murder or not, you rape someone you die. very well put

Elhuero
09-23-2011, 18:01
I bet if it were your kid you would be singing a different tune. That sorry pile of crap needs to pay for harming a baby not even a little kid a BABY he raped a BABY and you dont think he needs to die, what is wrong with you. He needs to die a slow and very painful death.


you could bet that, but you'd be wrong.

Elhuero
09-23-2011, 18:03
I can't understand how anyone can be pro-death penalty, and not think babyrapers should be killed.[Dunno]


I can't understand how someone could be a gun owner, like shooting, but be A-ok with more gun control. but that happens too.

n8tive97
09-23-2011, 18:05
I'm thinking of Man on Fire, thats the kind of stuff I would do to him for a few days then I would shove the charge up his ass!
I couldn't even open the link, the title made me sick to my stomach.

jmg8550
09-23-2011, 18:43
There is this trick I read in a book once. Always wanted to try it. Involves a decompression chamber and about 2 weeks time.

Without Remorse: Tom Clancy [Beer] good book. Good torture method.



Why is this dirtbag not getting the chair or lethal injection? We as taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for this asshole's three hot's and a cot for the rest of his life. Child molesters cannot be healed, it is a mental disorder and should not be even remotely tolerated. Rapists should get the death penalty, period, end of statement.

Also, if the prisoners can get to him, he's a dead man. Most child molesters are not put in general population because they would be dead very quickly. So they are either in solitary or in their own ward.

Oh, and yeah, I would put several bullets in him, starting at his feet and working up. I do like the 1000 yards with a .22 idea though, that would be challenging.

divideman
09-23-2011, 20:39
There has to be a "special" place in hell for this kind of POS. Pray for the child and his family!

RMAC757
09-23-2011, 21:00
The movie "Law abiding citizen". If you've seen it then you know of which I speak.

Tinelement
09-23-2011, 21:13
with a 18 month old and 1 in the oven.....no way some f*&k head would get away with this on one of my kids! I'd sit for life to make sure he paid....

blacklabel
09-23-2011, 21:39
The movie "Law abiding citizen". If you've seen it then you know of which I speak.

That came to mind for me too.

clublights
09-24-2011, 10:55
I'll lead off my post with a proverb ....

A Man was drowning in a flood....

he prays to god to save him, a short time later a boat comes along and offers to pull him out.. the man says "no thank you god will save me",
A bit later another boat comes along and the same thing happens ..

a little while after that a third boat comes along and the man again says "no god will save me"

well a bit after that the man drowns.. it gets to heaven and asks god "why didn't you save me?" God replies "I sent three boats!"

my point to this story?

Well God can't do everything himself ... sometimes he needs a little earthly help. Not saying that killing this scum would be "ordained by god" but I also don't think he'd be too upset with ya for doing it.

SouthPaw
09-24-2011, 11:12
The movie "Law abiding citizen". If you've seen it then you know of which I speak.

+1

jarhead
09-24-2011, 11:44
It depends, if it happened to a family member.. yes. For a stranger...no.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 12:37
you could bet that, but you'd be wrong. Who is this freaking hippie. Go take your Hippie opinions and shove them up your ass. Do you realize what this guy has done? And if I am wrong the Father of the child that would not want to take this mans life is a COWARD and does not love his kids.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 12:39
with a 18 month old and 1 in the oven.....no way some f*&k head would get away with this on one of my kids! I'd sit for life to make sure he paid.... I am with you man, the worst kind of man to deal with is the one that has nothing to live for. My kids are my life if something happens to them who ever did it better hope that I would never find them.

waxthis
09-24-2011, 12:51
I would definitely have him eat his own dick for starters. After that stitch his mouth closed, get him a little bloody and haul to the local hog farm. Make sure he is wide awake so he can see and feel what the hogs are having for dinner.

Very creative!!! I like it.[Beer]

Elhuero
09-24-2011, 13:33
Who is this freaking hippie. Go take your Hippie opinions and shove them up your ass. Do you realize what this guy has done?


he thinks I'm a hippie [ROFL2]

your simultaneous rage against deviant behavior and fascination with shoving things up peoples asses is confusing, yet hilarious.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 13:38
he thinks I'm a hippie [ROFL2]

your simultaneous rage against deviant behavior and fascination with shoving things up peoples asses is confusing, yet hilarious. Nothing about this is hilarious. Why dont you think about what that family is going through and what that poor baby had to go through. I want you to think about that baby crying out in pain as he was raped by a grown man and no one there to save him. I also want you to think about all the sick people that like to watch stuff like that online.

Elhuero
09-24-2011, 13:44
heh, very timely edit.

well done.

I hope you have a wonderful day.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 13:47
heh, very timely edit.

well done.

I hope you have a wonderful day. No I just dont have any proof that you are as sick as he is, and figured what I put up was better, unless like I said you get off on stuff like that. Or maybe you are just a coward and dont have the balls to stand up for what is right.

Elhuero
09-24-2011, 13:54
wow.

could have gotten

"gee elhuero, that is a very unique point of view. I happen to disagree with it. why do you feel that way?"

but instead got

"shove it up your ass you baby raping coward"

so, now this will probably be closed. but hopefully not before you run your fool mouth some more and catch a ban.

okey dokey, I'll be going now.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 14:11
wow.

could have gotten

"gee elhuero, that is a very unique point of view. I happen to disagree with it. why do you feel that way?"

but instead got

"shove it up your ass you baby raping coward"

so, now this will probably be closed. but hopefully not before you run your fool mouth some more and catch a ban.

okey dokey, I'll be going now.That is the point I dont care what the reason is, if you do that to a child you should be put to death. That waste of skin owes a debt that can only be repaid with his life. To be honest I would not be surprised if I got banned for speaking my mind, we no longer have freedom of speech. So just out of sheer curiosity why do you feel that this scumbag should be able to keep his life?

BushMasterBoy
09-24-2011, 15:08
Sick animals belong in cages. He will have no life in a cage (prison cell). Personally, I wish all prisoners be locked in solitary. Economically that is not possible. America...it's all about money.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 16:18
Sick animals belong in cages. He will have no life in a cage (prison cell). Personally, I wish all prisoners be locked in solitary. Economically that is not possible. America...it's all about money. The way it will probably go down is he will do his time in PC. I think he should do it in GP there should not be any protective treatment towards these animals. As the saying goes PICK ON SOME ONE YOUR OWN SIZE, The only good I can see in all of this is the baby will not remember, hopefully there is no trace of it left behind, scaring or disease. That is why I say he should pay with his life, if every convicted child rapist, that has been convicted and definitely did the crime was Killed I bet there would be less children getting hurt. We should make an example out of these animals. What do you do when a Dog has bitten a Human for no reason and has had the taste of blood, you put him down these child rapist are no different.

cstone
09-24-2011, 18:35
That is the point I dont care what the reason is, if you do that to a child you should be put to death. That waste of skin owes a debt that can only be repaid with his life. To be honest I would not be surprised if I got banned for speaking my mind, we no longer have freedom of speech. So just out of sheer curiosity why do you feel that this scumbag should be able to keep his life?

Just a slight correction. This debt can never be repaid, by anyone, especially the criminal who committed this crime. If the crime is proven to a jury of his peers beyond a reasonable doubt, then he will be sentenced to whatever punishment the law allows. Nothing, not his life in a cell, or years of torture will ever repay this crime.

Atrain1
09-24-2011, 19:10
Just a slight correction. This debt can never be repaid, by anyone, especially the criminal who committed this crime. If the crime is proven to a jury of his peers beyond a reasonable doubt, then he will be sentenced to whatever punishment the law allows. Nothing, not his life in a cell, or years of torture will ever repay this crime. You are correct stone but I just dont understand why they dont make an example out of these animals, if they did maybe it would not happen as much. I have been close to people it has happened to I wont go into detail but it they are never the same. And I would not be surprised if this guy got out someday.

cstone
09-24-2011, 19:26
You are correct stone but I just dont understand why they dont make an example out of these animals, if they did maybe it would not happen as much. I have been close to people it has happened to I wont go into detail but it they are never the same. And I would not be surprised if this guy got out someday.

I don't think this criminal will see very much freedom during the rest of his natural life. If he does not end his own life, someone is likely to take it from him.

As far as punishment working as a deterrent, I am not aware of any good examples of deviants like this criminal being influenced by the consequences of their actions. Most of these types of criminals simply do not think rationally, or with the same perception that you or I would have. If they did, they simply would kill themselves before they committed such atrocious crimes. Case in point; if you or I were only given two choices, 1 Do what he did to that child, or 2 Kill yourself, I would argue that most sane individuals would first look for a third option and if none were available, suicide would be preferable to committing such an act.

I hope those you know who have suffered can find peace in their life. That is often difficult for people who have not suffered such a tragedy.