View Full Version : S&W 2213 Ka-boom; input?
sometimesright
09-24-2011, 18:44
Well, making a few posts on this site this afternoon in an attempt to avoid further housecleaning got my testosterone flowing and I decided to ditch the apron and go out to do a little low-light paper punching. Things were going along fairly smoothly as I put some .40, .9mm, and .380 downrange. When I took out the 2213, you can see the result (sorry for the poor pics). I compressed them for the site, but I can e-mail higher res. if anyone wants closer examination.
This is the second time I had the little guy out since I got it and it is a hoot to shoot and very accurate. I was on my third magazine on either the next to last or last round and you can see what happened. I had something come back and hit my upper lip and draw some blood, but not sure what it was.
Enough whining. Can someone give me a best guess as to what happened here? I'm not sure what steps I want to take next. I sure liked shooting this little guy. Tons of fun and cheap trigger time. I was shooting Federal Valu-pack .22lr. Any thoughts?
sneakerd
09-24-2011, 18:54
That's crazy- I'll venture a guess that the slide was not fully in battery when the firing pin hit the rim of the cartridge?
jscwerve
09-24-2011, 19:13
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I would guess out of battery discharge.
sometimesright
09-24-2011, 19:19
Ok, stupid question here - my error?
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I would guess out of battery discharge. That was going to be my guess as well, I am sure BP well see this and be able to give you more info. That sucks I am a big S&W fan.
jscwerve
09-24-2011, 19:40
Ok, stupid question here - my error?
If it actually WAS an out of battery discharge, I don't think it could be your error. The gun should not be able to fire out of battery, although it does happen. Might have been just BARELY out and still enough engagement for the hammer to move the firing pin into the round.
BPTactical
09-24-2011, 19:42
No absolutes without being able to see it first hand. Just a SWAG-pierced the case rim on firing pin hit or blew out the casehead. I would think it would have to have been substantially out of battery to cause this amount of damage.. The few out of battery 22 cases I have dealt with have not caused any damage, just loud and spooky.
How many rounds had you fired?
Check the firing pin nose-is it sharp?
Do you have any casings from the same batch that you shot today? If so how is the firing pin impression?
How hot was the weapon? Cook off?
sometimesright
09-24-2011, 19:52
I hadn't done too much with it up to that point. I was on the third magazine. I don't think it was too hot. It was a pretty normal rate of fire. I had run the same ammo. through it the last time I took it out and had shot quite a few more mags. I don't have any of the spent casings here, but I guess I could always go out and pick a few up tomorrow if it is helpful to anyone who might examine it.
I didn't really want to take it apart or anything until someone who has a heck of a lot more knowledge than me look at it first. Hated to have it happen. This was a fun little shooter. I have absolutely no idea if it can be repaired or not or if it would be cost prohibitive.
I should have picked up a couple of casings to peek but depression set in after the initial surprise and I decided to call it a day. Sounds like I probably should take it to someone with greater knowledge than me to have a look-see. Thanks BP.
BPTactical
09-24-2011, 20:13
Sorry for your misfortune but glad your OK.
This just gives you a hall pass to go gun shopping[Muaha][Muaha][Muaha]
SideShow Bob
09-24-2011, 20:33
Is it a blow back action or recoil operated ? Possible low power round in the value pack. Had enough blow back to cycle the action ,but not enough energy to push the bullet out the barrel, thereby giving you a barrel obstruction for the next round. Did you check the barrel to see if it was clear ?
As BPT said I have seen a couple out of breech .22 discharges, and haven't seen them do this kind of damage.
sometimesright
09-24-2011, 21:21
Blowback operated. I suppose it could be low power round, although I shot several the time before I took it out. Certainly wasn't expecting this. I didn't notice anything odd as it was firing (until I pulled the trigger on that round). If there was an obstruction, I certainly didn't notice. It seemed to be cycling OK prior to that. As far as an excuse to go gun shopping - never need an excuse to do that. [Muaha] I'm going to miss this one though. I don't see many of them around and it was a fun gun. I was going to kick around checking to see if it could be repaired and how much - guess it couldn't hurt to ask around. Appreciate the replies and info. - just wanted to make sure it wasn't operator error (not entirely out of the realm of possibility - but it makes me feel better).
SideShow Bob
09-24-2011, 21:45
Can you now push a cleaning rod through the barrel ? Or see light through the bore ? This is what I meant as far as now having an obstructed barrel, possibly a bullet stuck there after your incident.
sometimesright
09-24-2011, 22:00
Yup. Checked it almost immediately after your reply just so I wouldn't look like a moron. All clear. Thx.
Maybe check with S&W about "free" repair. Even though I own several older S&Ws, I'm not up on their warranty. No company wants bad press.
I'm glad you're okay.
I'm sorry for your loss.
I thank God it wasn't a Glock!
Paladin
SA Friday
09-25-2011, 00:55
All of the kaboooms in 22 LR I've seen have been from a bullet/obstruction stuck in the barrel. They all had clean rifling after the incident. The second round cleared out the stuck bullet. Look for a bulge in the barrel and that's where the obstruction was.
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