View Full Version : Thinking of bumping minimum post count.
Since it seem there are a bunch of new people off of Armslist that seem to be migrating over here.
I am giving consideration to upping the minimum post count to get into the trading post.
What should it be. I would prefer the older more established members that don't post much access, But I would like it high enough to keep that just a few garbage posts won't cut it.
5 day poll, be sure to vote.
Could you have an exception to the rule for time on the boards?
Maybe make it by invitation only?
I think it should aim high because it seems like if you go with 20-50 you will just wind up with 20-50 "lols", "+1", or "your forum is stupid and I shouldn't need to post to sell...blah blah blah, free speech" posts.
Maybe make it clear this is a place to share ideas where you can buy/sell stuff once in a while, not a place to buy/sell stuff that you can talk on once in a while.
I say 100 or so if by post count alone
Well, vote. [Tooth]
And for the most part "+1's" get deleted around here unless it's followed up.[Muaha]
blacklabel
10-07-2011, 21:39
75 is attainable. It took me ages to break the 100 mark though.
I am getting tired of seeing people with their 16th post being an ad.
El Caballo Loco
10-07-2011, 21:40
What BigMat and 71chebby said. On another forum we jumped from 50 to 100 and it seemed to work good. You could definitely weed out the bullshit posts and it really deterred those with no desire to do anything but sell.
50 definitely worked better than the 15 does here, but the switch to 100 would completely kill the for sale section like it did on the other site. It took us a good month or two to get the for sale section up and spinning again.
I voted 75 for the above reasons.
Zundfolge
10-07-2011, 21:43
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
50 posts should be sufficient to determine what a persons desire is on this forum.
What BigMat and 71chebby said. On another forum we jumped from 50 to 100 and it seemed to work good. You could definitely weed out the bullshit posts and it really deterred those with no desire to do anything but sell.
50 definitely worked better than the 15 does here, but the switch to 100 would completely kill the for sale section like it did on the other site. It took us a good month or two to get the for sale section up and spinning again.
I voted 75 for the above reasons.
Well, you know you guys are suppose to be my eyes and ears out there.[Abused]
Should have let me know what was going on before this. [Tooth]
blacklabel
10-07-2011, 21:45
+1. [LOL]
Just to make sure it doesn't get deleted... [LOL]
Just to make sure it doesn't get deleted... [LOL]
Too late..
This forum is addicting enough so posting isn't hard to do here so I voted 100posts[Beer]
mevshooter
10-07-2011, 21:52
I honestly started selling and buying first and THEN began posting on the site after a couple of months... so I'm a bit of a hypocrite for voting for the 100 now that I'm here, but I agree that the influx of crappy ads and people just flat out not following the rules can be quite annoying.
I threw in a vote for 100, although part of me agrees with a previous post to just let the buyers/sellers post away as it will increase the chances of me buying something I want or selling something. Of course this is the only internet forum I am currently active on because I feel it is well moderated and, for the most part, is full of good people. I suppose the higher post count will weed out some of the riff-raff and keep this site fun to visit. [Coffee]
Not_A_Llama
10-07-2011, 21:53
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
Strongly concur. Also, lower post count users tend to bring the deals to the board.
I've been pretty happy with the sale board, even before we went high moderation. 100 post minimum will positively gut activity. 50 is even too high, I think. 25 is the highest I'd go, if there has to be one.
blackford76
10-07-2011, 21:56
Raise the count, but for members who have been here a while, say 18 months or more, grandfather them.
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
I wouldn't mind this one, IF, it worked in practice.[Bang]
This forum is addicting enough so posting isn't hard to do here so I voted 100posts[Beer]
Thank you..[Beer]
I honestly started selling and buying first and THEN began posting on the site after a couple of months... so I'm a bit of a hypocrite for voting for the 100 now that I'm here, but I agree that the influx of crappy ads and people just flat out not following the rules can be quite annoying.
Glad you found it entertaining enough to start posting more. Naw, I don't think you're a hypocrite.[Tooth]
Here's a thought... how about not being able to post something for sale until you have three positive feedbacks? If someone wants to sign up, buy a few items, and prove they are decent, reliable people then they will be allowed to sell their stuff.
Just an idea.
I think 100 would definitely weed out the people who just want to sell. I did not even know there was a certain amount of posts you had to have to sell or trade until I seen people complaining about having to have 15.
stevelkinevil
10-07-2011, 22:06
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
Agreed, It seems to me to only serve to reduce the amount of available firearms and accessories for purchase. If you think someones a joker dont deal with them. Much like everything in life more regulations rarely help anything and usually hurt.
Strongly concur. Also, lower post count users tend to bring the deals to the board.
I've been pretty happy with the sale board, even before we went high moderation. 100 post minimum will positively gut activity. 50 is even too high, I think. 25 is the highest I'd go, if there has to be one.
While I do agree, You aren't the one that has to put up with the PM's Just sayin'. Yeah, there may be a deal or two that might slip by.
Raise the count, but for members who have been here a while, say 18 months or more, grandfather them.
I will check and see if this can be done.
Here's a thought... how about not being able to post something for sale until you have three positive feedbacks? If someone wants to sign up, buy a few items, and prove they are decent, reliable people then they will be allowed to sell their stuff.
Just an idea.
Not sure as to how to keep track of that though.. I find it interesting.
I voted for 100. seems like plenty where they have to at least spend some time. if they really want to be here they will post that number and at least get to know the place some.
There will be some loss of new members and I am sure some whining threads, but I don't think you even have to worry about that...most of us here are more than happy to slap them around a little bit and tell them the rules. then they will get to know what is expected and if they stick around long enough we at least know they have some sort of want to be here. Kind of like FIGHT CLUB!
and if they bail, then they can go pay to post on other sites or deal with the morons on others. names withheld.
My other thought, was also maybe a minimum membership time. something like 1 month or 2 months...maybe more...that is another poll I guess. I don't know if that is possible to do a double standard (time length as member or post count), but I know there are so low post count guys who either don't have much to say, like to read a lot, wear more than the average amount of tinfoil, or just have more of a life than some of us[Tooth]
either way, I am ALL FOR a raise in the post count minimum.
very timely thread marlin, as right now I am gathering items to sell.
last time I tried I had a low post counter flake out on me.
I voted.
Byte Stryke
10-07-2011, 22:11
I am down with the "member since" idea...
since that wasn't a poll option I went for 75
it just makes sense that as soon as we raise the level we will get more crap posts of "I Like it." and the BYPC Thread will go friggin Nuts
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
that is true, I have given a lot of newbies their first +1 in the feedback....some of them have turned out to be a huge part of this site. I started out almost exclusively in the WTS section, buying and selling stuff, then found the boost your post count and then the rest is history. But as of lately it really seems like we get a ton of hit and runs from people, shady characters, people that welch on deals, or IMO some questionable sales.
DSB OUTDOORS
10-07-2011, 22:15
This forum is addicting enough so posting isn't hard to do here so I voted 100posts[Beer]
+1 and then +1 more. Oha Ya!!
I threw in a vote for 100, although part of me agrees with a previous post to just let the buyers/sellers post away as it will increase the chances of me buying something I want or selling something. Of course this is the only internet forum I am currently active on because I feel it is well moderated and, for the most part, is full of good people. I suppose the higher post count will weed out some of the riff-raff and keep this site fun to visit. [Coffee]
I agree, Got some good deals from some newbies. But no respect!! My feed back would be much higher if the new guys would learn a thing or two!! I'm going to start deleating feedback posts if they don't give me some feedback that they said they would. You know who you are!! No names, just by by good coms!!
Drilldov2.0
10-07-2011, 22:15
Marlin, I am not certain why post count has anything to do with the ability to follow through with a deal. It could certainly hurt the be detrimental to the forum in that if someone needed to move an item quickly, say to cover their mortgage or whatever else in these uncertain times, a minimum post count would only force them to seek some place else and deprive the people here from the ability to acquire the item.
Is there a moderator who only watches the Trading Post? Perhaps a contract, verified by a moderator and a watch list of pending deals in a sticky would better serve to quell some of the broken deals, etc. a little public accountability does help to ensure a higher standard. I honestly can't see how a certain post count would affect a change.
DSB OUTDOORS
10-07-2011, 22:16
This forum is addicting enough so posting isn't hard to do here so I voted 100posts[Beer]
+1 and then +1 more. Oha Ya!!
I threw in a vote for 100, although part of me agrees with a previous post to just let the buyers/sellers post away as it will increase the chances of me buying something I want or selling something. Of course this is the only internet forum I am currently active on because I feel it is well moderated and, for the most part, is full of good people. I suppose the higher post count will weed out some of the riff-raff and keep this site fun to visit. [Coffee]
I agree, Got some good deals from some newbies. But no respect!! My feed back would be much higher if the new guys would learn a thing or two!! I'm going to start deleating feedback posts if they don't give me some feedback that they said they would. You know who you are!! No names, just by by good coms!!
Agreed, It seems to me to only serve to reduce the amount of available firearms and accessories for purchase. If you think someones a joker dont deal with them. Much like everything in life more regulations rarely help anything and usually hurt.
I understand that. and I agree with the minimum of rules. Just seem like the few we had, nobody wanted to follow.
Maybe I should start charging for placing ads.
NitroxBoss
10-07-2011, 22:23
I voted for 100. seems like plenty where they have to at least spend some time. if they really want to be here they will post that number and at least get to know the place some.
There will be some loss of new members and I am sure some whining threads, but I don't think you even have to worry about that...most of us here are more than happy to slap them around a little bit and tell them the rules. then they will get to know what is expected and if they stick around long enough we at least know they have some sort of want to be here. Kind of like FIGHT CLUB!
I am along this line.
I voted
Oh yea +1
[AH64]
Not sure as to how to keep track of that though.. I find it interesting.
any chance your software can set it up to "thank"? check out grizzly central website. a member can "thank" another member...say for helping them out, selling something to them, buying something, etc etc. each member can "thank" other members.
You might be able to incorporate that, require someone to have 5 "thanks" before being able to access the for sale forums. they could be restricted to the general forums until that happens. feedback could be incorporated. the new arfcom feedback set up is pretty nice. im not a computer guy though so not sure what is involved.
sneakerd
10-07-2011, 22:24
100
Marlin, I am not certain why post count has anything to do with the ability to follow through with a deal. It could certainly hurt the be detrimental to the forum in that if someone needed to move an item quickly, say to cover their mortgage or whatever else in these uncertain times, a minimum post count would only force them to seek some place else and deprive the people here from the ability to acquire the item.
Is there a moderator who only watches the Trading Post? Perhaps a contract, verified by a moderator and a watch list of pending deals in a sticky would better serve to quell some of the broken deals, etc. a little public accountability does help to ensure a higher standard. I honestly can't see how a certain post count would affect a change.
Yeah, several. I'm not sure how it would work for them to give up all of their free time to babysit that thing all the time. God knows I got burned out on it.
Falls back to what I would have liked to do, and just get rid of it.
any chance your software can set it up to "thank"? check out grizzly central website. a member can "thank" another member...say for helping them out, selling something to them, buying something, etc etc. each member can "thank" other members.
You might be able to incorporate that, require someone to have 5 "thanks" before being able to access the for sale forums. they could be restricted to the general forums until that happens. feedback could be incorporated. the new arfcom feedback set up is pretty nice. im not a computer guy though so not sure what is involved.
This software??????? [LOL]
Great-Kazoo
10-07-2011, 22:28
Yeah, several. I'm not sure how it would work for them to give up all of their free time to babysit that thing all the time. God knows I got burned out on it.
Falls back to what I would have liked to do, and just get rid of it.
some members do not have a super high post count yet been a member since say 05 etc. how about a 6month -1 year membership before allowing it?
I agree it needs to happen to eliminate the guys just looking to sell. But I belong to other forums for years like 7-8 plus and have under 150 post. I do alot of reading and browsing and don't feel I need to add me two cents all the time just to be able to sell. I like the time idea but how long would you make it. Seems like a joined right before the down turn here.
I am down with the "member since" idea...
since that wasn't a poll option I went for 75
it just makes sense that as soon as we raise the level we will get more crap posts of "I Like it." and the BYPC Thread will go friggin Nuts
I'd like the "Member since" one. I'll have to run it past the gurus to see if that might work with this place.
some members do not have a super high post count yet been a member since say 05 etc. how about a 6month -1 year membership before allowing it?
I'll check this with the gurus.
I see a join date, it's that the same as member since?
Great-Kazoo
10-07-2011, 22:35
I'll check this with the gurus.
OR................................. if not eligible for either option how about ( sounds funky) 1 or 2 members with high post counts and or length of time as references........................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......and what makes you feel you are the best person suited for the job opening????
because i applied for it?
I agree it needs to happen to eliminate the guys just looking to sell. But I belong to other forums for years like 7-8 plus and have under 300 post. I do alot of reading and browsing and don't feel I need to add me two cents all the time just to be able to sell. I like the time idea but how long would you make it. Seems like a joined right before the down turn here.
Well, sorry about that. But, the way that place has been the last couple of months, something needed to be done. And since, this is starting to seem like the only "free" place to sell stuff..I'm not sure what else to do.
Maybe "memberships" for those who want to sell?
OR................................. if not eligible for either option how about ( sounds funky) 1 or 2 members with high post counts and or length of time as references........................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......and what makes you feel you are the best person suited for the job opening????
because i applied for it?
[LOL]
I'd get more of those commiesocialengineering threads again.
This software??????? [LOL]
sounds like that option is out of the question[Tooth]
trlcavscout
10-07-2011, 22:43
I dont really see the point? I know I dont have to read all the whining PM's so my opinion doesnt really matter. But the people that join just to buy/sell will just make 50-100 BS posts then continue with what they are doing. I know some people join just for the classifieds and I could care less as long as they are good guys. But high post counts dont make people better people, it just means they spend more timing trying to get high post counts [Beer]
Just my 2 cents but it doesnt matter. I have had guys with triple my post count back out on deals, not show up to meet etc.
Maybe "memberships" for those who want to sell?
You mean like RMGO? [Coffee]
Seriously, a few bucks probably wouldn't kill any of us. But where would that money go? Just curious.
You mean like RMGO? [Coffee]
Seriously, a few bucks probably wouldn't kill any of us. But where would that money go? Just curious.
My retirement fund naturally..[Tooth]
Most would go back to the board.
hunterhawk
10-07-2011, 22:49
I have been a member since 09 but you are correct up until now i pretty much just came to sell stuff! i would look around for a bit but if i didnt see anything i wanted to buy and if i didnt have anything to sell i wouldnt post....
im not voting for post count since all my posts got deleted when i had to restart over... so im going to say a membership fee... i pay it on other websites.
just my .02 as a newbie who doesnt want to keep starting over on posts counts to stick around... like stated i think a lot of people would go elsewhere to sell guns and im sure a lot of guys on here who are always buying guns wont find the deals they were finding?
xiondavis
10-07-2011, 22:56
100 posts is a lot for me on any board... That's why I voted 50.
I have been a member since 09 but you are correct up until now i pretty much just came to sell stuff! i would look around for a bit but if i didnt see anything i wanted to buy and if i didnt have anything to sell i wouldnt post....
im not voting for post count since all my posts got deleted when i had to restart over... so im going to say a membership fee... i pay it on other websites.
just my .02 as a newbie who doesnt want to keep starting over on posts counts to stick around... like stated i think a lot of people would go elsewhere to sell guns and im sure a lot of guys on here who are always buying guns wont find the deals they were finding?
So, you are saying, that if I closed it off completely, You would pay just to see the trading post?
Then you wouldn't have to worry about the post count, because, you are just here to buy and sell.
hunterhawk
10-07-2011, 23:09
not quite what i was saying... i was just saying i would pay if I HAD to! trust me i rather just stick around and not have to pay :)
I just have limited stuff to say about guns i guess... I could talk about bows and hunting all day long... but not a lot of members here seem to want to talk about that :)
I love guns, I love shooting guns... I have a gun on me everyday but im not sure i can get 100 posts too quickly around here even if i cam everyday... i feel like i would be making posts just to make them... and that kind of seems pointless because you arent really contributing to the forum if you do that...
if i have something worth saying i will definitely try to help out if someone has a question but i am no means an expert with or about any gun
I don't really want to see it become a pay or use type deal like RMGO. then it just seems too commercialized and the for sale ads are going to reflect that just like RMGO and gunbroker.
I am all for paying to help out with the site if that is what needs to happen and I will gladly do that because this is by far the best gun site on the internet. less rules, less crap, less bad people, more freedom. that is what this made this place awesome.
Rott Weiler
10-07-2011, 23:27
I'm a fairly private person and don't post a lot on any message board but I'm a member of several. I see a lot of good posts but many undesirable posts as well. I find it interesting that my worth as a seller is measured by an arbitray post count. Prior to the new 15 post rule, I bought, sold and traded quite a bit on this board and had only postive experiences. I have sent numerous friends to the board since I see a lot of value here....even if I'm not one to post a bunch (just like I'll never be on Facebook or Twitter).
I'd be happy to pay a reasonable annual fee to support the board, pay for an ad, etc. but I doubt that I'll ever have a high post count. I doubt there is a magical answer to weed out the bad folks (both buyers and sellers) but if the selected method will be a high post count, I'll just quietly move on and sell my items elsewhere.
PS If I was allowed to post in the For Sale section, I'd have my Springfield M21 listed right now.[Coffee]
I'm a fairly private person and don't post a lot on any message board but I'm a member of several. I see a lot of good posts but many undesirable posts as well. I find it interesting that my worth as a seller is measured by an arbitray post count. Prior to the new 15 post rule, I bought, sold and traded quite a bit on this board and had only postive experiences. I have sent numerous friends to the board since I see a lot of value here....even if I'm not one to post a bunch (just like I'll never be on Facebook or Twitter).
I'd be happy to pay a reasonable annual fee to support the board, pay for an ad, etc. but I doubt that I'll ever have a high post count. I doubt there is a magical answer to weed out the bad folks (both buyers and sellers) but if the selected method will be a high post count, I'll just quietly move on and sell my items elsewhere.
PS If I was allowed to post in the For Sale section, I'd have my Springfield M21 listed right now.[Coffee]
slight derail of thread...but you can give it to me to sell....probably going to take a REALLY long time.[Tooth]
and back on topic!
mcantar18c
10-07-2011, 23:46
Not sure if this would be a direction we'd want to take here... not even sure if I like the idea myself... but this kinda popped into my mind...
Take the small leap into making COAR more of a club, and less of just a forum. People can read everything, but not post. Current members that meet requirements can be grandfathered in... not sure what those requirements would be though. Maybe 50 posts for members with positive feedback and 200 posts + 4 months for members that don't have any feedback?
Then if someone wants to join, they can either pay a membership fee (not too expensive, but enough that someone would have to want to be here to commit) or have a member in good standing "sponsor" them (for lack of a better term).
Seems like it would weed out a lot of the BS, make the mods' lives much easier, and make our experience here maybe a little bit better... not to mention eliminate the spammers. Then again, I'm undecided about if I really want this to become a private thing.
What do you guys think about this?
sometimesright
10-07-2011, 23:58
Hmmm.. not a lot of us lower post count folks responding. Well, I'm one of those who tend to do more reading, although I'll toss an occasional "gem" out there. I guess one of the questions is "What it is the minimum post count designed to accomplish?" While I suppose it is true a minimum would discourage some who want to sell something quickly and ride off into the sunset, there are also those who will post several things simply to increase the count and then sell.
I haven't posted anything in the "boost your post count thread," and don't plan to (but that's just me). I probably fall into the camp that tends to think that post count really has nothing to do with the quality of person with whom you deal. I've found it much more helpful to go read the posts and look more at post quality and content of a post (a few of the more humorous pieces of banter notwithstanding). [Tooth]
For me, that gives a better picture. If the posts aren't there or are a bit lacking in what they reveal, I may think twice before hopping the vehicle to meet someone. FWIW, I may have hypothetically made a few deals off another often-mentioned board that requires a fee (although never joined that particular board) and was never burned (knock on wood). I would not have been a happy camper if I had, though. If the post count increases, I'll just be doing more reading to take a look at the posts that individual has made.
I don't know if this issue will even impact me since it isn't often I part with something, but may take the opportunity to part with some rare discretionary income. So far I don't see anything about minimum posts to buy - so it's all good. [Pepsi]. Guess we all have to start somewhere (as far as post count). Some sort of quality control is nice to have; I'm just not totally convinced at this point in my young posting career that quantity always equals quality. Either way, I'll take a look at whatever the rules are, and make a choice. [Weight]
By the way, the length of this post should be worth at least three toward my count. [ROFL1]
68Charger
10-07-2011, 23:58
I voted low, because I don't think it's entirely about post count- 100 worthless posts in the BYPC thread doesn't mean anything...
The idea of blocking until someone has 3 positive feedbacks seems like a good idea, but what if they're in a bad spot, and need to sell something?
No, they're not 'entitled' to hock their wares here, but it's assuming they're not worth anything because they're down on their luck- not cool.
it would be great if there was some way to earn it- like a "buy a MOD a beer" bonus[Beer] (or other face-to-face, like at a shoot, or some get-together?)
Many new guys will flake because they're uncomfortable, and going into new territory by coming here- fear of the unknown. Think back to the 1st gun you sold to someone you didn't know... did you ever wonder if the next time you saw it was going to be with "People's exhibit A" tag on it?
just something to think about...
The minimum post count is a way to reveal something about them- I've been on other boards where they post "9 more posts to go" etc... so it's very clear their intentions. That's the other side of minimum post counts, and we've seen it here already. Make it apparent in the rules that this won't fly...
Sharpienads
10-07-2011, 23:59
How about a minimum post count before you can post at all?
But seriously, I don't think there's going to be one magic idea that's going to weed out the so-called "riff-raff". Maybe make the newbie introduction section mandatory before you can sell your stuff. Or that coupled with a 25 or 50 post count. That way buyers can at least look you up there.
Not sure if this would be a direction we'd want to take here... not even sure if I like the idea myself... but this kinda popped into my mind...
Take the small leap into making COAR more of a club, and less of just a forum. People can read everything, but not post. Current members that meet requirements can be grandfathered in... not sure what those requirements would be though. Maybe 50 posts for members with positive feedback and 200 posts + 4 months for members that don't have any feedback?
Then if someone wants to join, they can either pay a membership fee (not too expensive, but enough that someone would have to want to be here to commit) or have a member in good standing "sponsor" them (for lack of a better term).
Seems like it would weed out a lot of the BS, make the mods' lives much easier, and make our experience here maybe a little bit better... not to mention eliminate the spammers. Then again, I'm undecided about if I really want this to become a private thing.
What do you guys think about this?
little long reaching IMO. This place became great for a reason. Sometimes it best to leave well enough alone.
What I think a lot of us, including myself, aren't seeing is what the mods deals with. I know the for sale section is the biggest issue because of the newbies not following rules. The only thing I was thinking was reducing the rules or at least the mod intervention, let the membership handle the newbies who don't follow the rules and the mods can step in when big issues come up, or they can just delete the ad right there on the spot and lock out the member from the for sale threads.
There is a lot to that though, whereas a minimum post count is much easier to enforce and deal with.
Marlin, being that it has been a while since I have joined, what is it like for the new guys joining?
do they have to get verified by a mod before the account is okayed?
Do they get a confirmation email?
If so, does that email contain the rules of the forum and a users agreement?
Is there a way to restrict them when they join to only be able to access certain pages...maybe start out at the rules forum, user agreement after that, then take them to the introduction thread?
Obviously some people will just skim through or skip, but at least it is there, they had the opportunity to see it, and then it is a quick and easy slap in the face to them when they post and whine about minimum post count or why their for sale ad was instantly deleted.
also, what about a template for the for sale section where each part needs to be filled out for the post to work:
title:
price:
location:
contact info (must allow emails or PM or post phone number)
description:
picture: (not required?)
Robby30-06
10-08-2011, 00:21
Voted 100. When i first arrived here i think i would have been against a minimum post count. After hanging around a while i can understand why some may be in favor. This is a whole lot more than a gun classifieds, it is an entire community of people seeking ideas and advice and sharing the same.
I also have noticed there are usually as many guests viewing any given thread as there are members (kinda like we are in a room doing our thing with one way mirrors all over the place). Kinda creepy to think one of them could jump in and right away and be on the same level as everyone else.
As for the long timers with small counts, i would be in favor of some Grandfather clause.
Oh yeah and i don't want any newbies sniping me on any more gun deals.[LOL]
I started coming here because of the FS section. Didn't post much, mostly PMs. There are "regulars" in the FS section that have been around for a while and have some post count that I won't bother dealing with. Guess I never put much cred. in post count.
How about memberships?
$10 Basic-Posting and posting ads in the FS sections.
$20 Member-Same as above and picture posting.
...This might stop some of the people who start new accounts/names weekly.
Just my $0.02 pesos. [Beer]
i voted low as I am a member of a couple other forums like for my motorcycle, that I am scouring so much info from but really do not have much to say as I am a completed noob when it comes to the old Suzuki's. That forum is just as much of a community as this one is and it takes a little while for you to find your place.
There is the old guard that has been there for a long time. The super active people that offer their opinion on damn near everything and post counts reflect it and than the "newbies" that spend a large portion of their time just soaking up the vast amount of knowledge that a group of this size of like minded individuals have to offer like i do on the bike forum or zombie squad. I do not think I should be punished if i want to sell a seat for my bike that someone else wants/needs with only 5 posts IF I adhere to the rules of the forum like a standardized for sale thread template, I have posted in the new member sign in and search before asking a question that has been asked a gillion times before.( that last one is a personal peeve, not really required)
There are always going to be the people that just sign up to sell something it is what the internet has made the world want... instant gratification. Requiring them to have a meaningful minimum post count will weed out a few of the " glock 17 for trade what ya got" people but it will never be fully eliminated mainly it will just make someone that has a sole intention of a quick sale hang around longer and not contribute anything useful which ditracts from what the website has to offer.
[Beer]
another thought here...my head hurts now.
what about a user regulated system? kind of like craigslist. if enough people flag the ad, it is automatically deleted. no mod intervention. automated email sent to the OP that always includes all the rules. let them figure it out.
there are more than enough of us here that could help control that.
would it be possible to do "rep" power. based on the length of time, post count, whatever the parameters, that member has more "rep" power. say at 1000 posts, you are worth 10 rep power. 10,000 posts at 50 rep power. length of time could go along the same lines.
when members see an ad that is breaking the rules, they can flag it. their rep power will go against the post. say it takes 100 "rep" power to automatically take down a post. so if a high post or long time member sees it breaks the rules, their rep power goes against the post. several other members who have smaller rep power flag it as well. it hits the 100 number and is gone. a mod always has the rep power/mod power to remove the post, but the members can help as well when they see something.
Anytime a forum places value in a members post count it reduces the value of the forum as a whole. I have left a couple forums because they get to the point where something said by a high post count member was deemed better info than anyone else's even though it was wrong. Not saying that will happen here but it is a slippery slope.
another thought here...my head hurts now.
what about a user regulated system? kind of like craigslist. if enough people flag the ad, it is automatically deleted. no mod intervention. automated email sent to the OP that always includes all the rules. let them figure it out.
there are more than enough of us here that could help control that.
would it be possible to do "rep" power. based on the length of time, post count, whatever the parameters, that member has more "rep" power. say at 1000 posts, you are worth 10 rep power. 10,000 posts at 50 rep power. length of time could go along the same lines.
when members see an ad that is breaking the rules, they can flag it. their rep power will go against the post. say it takes 100 "rep" power to automatically take down a post. so if a high post or long time member sees it breaks the rules, their rep power goes against the post. several other members who have smaller rep power flag it as well. it hits the 100 number and is gone. a mod always has the rep power/mod power to remove the post, but the members can help as well when they see something.
I like it but I really think it would be testing the abilities of Vbulletin
mcantar18c
10-08-2011, 01:17
I like it but I really think it would be testing the abilities of Vbulletin
I like this idea too. "Rep power" is nothing new and is well within the abilities of Vbulletin... not sure about being able to flag to remove posts though.
Of course we could always just work things out they way they do on PBB [Muaha]
jscwerve
10-08-2011, 01:28
Not sure as to how to keep track of that though.. I find it interesting.
iTrader for VBB. Works like a charm for feedback.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=102965
I voted for 50 because I think that is enough, although I do think that 25 would be just fine if General discussion posts didn't count. Just taking the queue from other boards that I'm on. Many of them do not count chit-chat/general posts to post count. Therefore the posts that count towards your total aren't all bullshit irrelevant crap. I know some of you are proud of your 5000 posts, but 99% of them are from making quibs on useless general threads.
jscwerve
10-08-2011, 01:29
Of course we could always just work things out they way they do on PBB [Muaha]
Fuck ya. I'm completely on board with that. But I see many-a -ban happening if we started acting like that!
Anytime a forum places value in a members post count it reduces the value of the forum as a whole. I have left a couple forums because they get to the point where something said by a high post count member was deemed better info than anyone else's even though it was wrong. Not saying that will happen here but it is a slippery slope.
I don't think that's what is being suggested at all.
mcantar18c
10-08-2011, 01:36
Fuck ya. I'm completely on board with that. But I see many-a -ban happening if we started acting like that!
Yeah, for the newbies... the reason it works on PBB is cause we DON'T ban guys for being assholes [Coffee]
cfortune
10-08-2011, 01:47
I started viewing this forum for the WTS/WTT ad's. But I can understand how you'd want to limit it. I posted a rifle for sale a while ago and on occasion still get e-mails from people stating "I ran across your ad google searching "blah blah blah". Are you willing to ship out of state????" when the ad in question is long gone.
Maybe just prevent people from PM'ing after 75 posts or so (if possible)? That way if people post their number/e-mail, they're asking for the minor annoyance.
I think you'd lose valuable new members if you restricted viewing of that sub forum all together. As like I said, those sub forums are what brought me to viewing this forum daily.
Thank you guys, You are giving me much to think about.
I'd like to keep changes, if any, to the minimum. But, at the same time, something needs to be done to maintain the "smooth operation"
Honestly, at this point I'm not even sure I'll up the minimum post count.
Just looking for ideas mainly.
I agree, Got some good deals from some newbies. But no respect!! My feed back would be much higher if the new guys would learn a thing or two!! I'm going to start deleating feedback posts if they don't give me some feedback that they said they would. You know who you are!! No names, just by by good coms!!
Bleh, I have more feedback missing than the majority of users here have +1's (no like I need it lol). Heck, the last 5 purchases I've left me nothing so I'm done being the first to leave it.
Bleh, I have more feedback missing than the majority of users here have +1's (no like I need it). Heck, the last 5 purchases I've left me nothing so I'm done being the first to leave it.
Here is another +1 for you Mike [ROFL1]
Bleh, I have more feedback missing than the majority of users here have +1's (no like I need it lol). Heck, the last 5 purchases I've left me nothing so I'm done being the first to leave it.
I know how you feel.
mevshooter
10-08-2011, 16:49
Bleh, I have more feedback missing than the majority of users here have +1's (no like I need it lol). Heck, the last 5 purchases I've left me nothing so I'm done being the first to leave it.
Yeah, I have 2 transactions that went super smooth, all parties satisfied, and I got nothing in return.
Boooooooo!
You jerks have got me all hopped up on this "community" and "feedback" junk.
Bastards.
[LOL]
jerrymrc
10-08-2011, 16:50
Anytime a forum places value in a members post count it reduces the value of the forum as a whole. I have left a couple forums because they get to the point where something said by a high post count member was deemed better info than anyone else's even though it was wrong. Not saying that will happen here but it is a slippery slope.
I will tell ya that none of us here believe in that. I have seen what you speak of though.
Drilldov2.0
10-08-2011, 17:02
Yeah, several. I'm not sure how it would work for them to give up all of their free time to babysit that thing all the time. God knows I got burned out on it.
Falls back to what I would have liked to do, and just get rid of it.
Reading through the responses, I kind of like the idea about us policing our own community. How exactly that can be done without abusing the system will require a bit more thought and dialogue. A seller reputation system would help a bit, however that does not stop someone from starting a new account after they have been removed from the Trading post. I still like the idea of public accountability in regards to transactions.
I think it should be based on length of membership- let's start with three years. Anyone who joins the site and blathers through 15 or 50 or even 100 posts in a month or two or even ten is obviously not to be trusted to fully participate in this site.
Bleh, I have more feedback missing than the majority of users here have +1's (no like I need it lol). Heck, the last 5 purchases I've left me nothing so I'm done being the first to leave it.
hey now! I just left you a +1 for helping me out! [Tooth]
Reading through the responses, I kind of like the idea about us policing our own community. How exactly that can be done without abusing the system will require a bit more thought and dialogue. A seller reputation system would help a bit, however that does not stop someone from starting a new account after they have been removed from the Trading post. I still like the idea of public accountability in regards to transactions.
wouldn't an entire IP or user ban (not just the members name) solve most of the multi-account offenders?
i would think a time based thing rather then a post count would be more beneficial.....like no posting in fs for a month or two after joining so new members can become acclimated to the site and kinda learn how things work here
Hey Marlin,
I haven't bought or sold anything on the trading post, but 100 posts is not an unreasonable number to do this. It would keep the bad guys out and would keep the good newbies in. also it would give the new folks an idea what this forum is all about. Plus I'm sure it would help the mods.
I don't want to piss off the buyers and sellers ,but I think it would weed out the assholes. Just my .02.[Beer]
SideShow Bob
10-08-2011, 18:03
Yep,
50 sounds good or 1 year as a member. Voted.
My thoughts: just make sure the selling guidelines/rules are a sticky (as they are), then just erase first posts that do not meet requirements with a PM explaining. After that, ban em. It's your website, simply don't put up with it. Shouldn't need a specific post count. After a few bans and some public comments, people should get the drift.
I voted 50.. but we should surely restrict the 'post whore' and 'bypc' threads as well..
Sorry but watching people count down to their '15' is dumb.
Post whoring in any other thread should be banned
jerrymrc
10-08-2011, 18:32
i would think a time based thing rather then a post count would be more beneficial.....like no posting in fs for a month or two after joining so new members can become acclimated to the site and kinda learn how things work here
You may have something there.[Coffee]
I have been here since the beginning. If it was set at 100 today I would not be able to ost.
Reading through the responses, I kind of like the idea about us policing our own community. How exactly that can be done without abusing the system will require a bit more thought and dialogue. A seller reputation system would help a bit, however that does not stop someone from starting a new account after they have been removed from the Trading post. I still like the idea of public accountability in regards to transactions.
this^
i voted 50 for firearms (it should go for places to shoot ,imho) . but i dont think post count should matter for the other stuff . buying or trading other stuff (mags parts ect .) is a great way us to get to know someone new . also if its a firearm they really want then they can send a pm and if they low ball or try to get over on anyone they should (and would if its me ) have negative feedback before they can even post in the firearms section . but thats just my 2 cents [Tooth]
I have been here since the beginning. If it was set at 100 today I would not be able to ost.
Well, this is the situations I'm trying to avoid.
Great-Kazoo
10-08-2011, 19:16
lets examine the flip side of the coin.
here is a link to my ad. Poster # 2 inquires if available. post a reply AND have sent 2 pm's to #2 poster. figure some response forth coming. NADA, ZIP not a fu$%^&*in thing reply wise from the "Interested" party. However he has been here more than 1 year and more than 100 post.
Seriously??
This is the kind of shit that has us debating (sorry mods) YOU debating what to do, to rein in the BS we have been experiencing the past month or so.
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47258
I have been here since the beginning. If it was set at 100 today I would not be able to ost.
I've been here just over seven years and I've barely got over 100 posts. Maybe there is a way to factor in time on the board as well as number of "legitimate" posts?
Just my $.02 worth...
trlcavscout
10-08-2011, 19:31
wouldn't an entire IP or user ban (not just the members name) solve most of the multi-account offenders?
Nope, I for one share PC's with other users, my wife, brother, co-worker etc. I share work PC, laptop, and phone on occasion. So banning 1 IP could ban multiple legit members.
jerrymrc
10-08-2011, 19:42
I've been here just over seven years and I've barely got over 100 posts. Maybe there is a way to factor in time on the board as well as number of "legitimate" posts?
Just my $.02 worth...
And we are looking very hard at this. Your words are not in vain. [Coffee]
Colorado Luckydog
10-08-2011, 19:56
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
I agree. All the complaining over the new members posting stuff for sale is just a bunch of girls crying a river. The classified are fine if the new over zealous mods would take a chill pill. It is the best classified site for gun owners and buyers in the state of Colorado. However, I am 100% convinced that it is subject to change and could be headed down hill.
I didn't vote because I think it is fine as it is.
I like this idea too. "Rep power" is nothing new and is well within the abilities of Vbulletin... not sure about being able to flag to remove posts though.
Of course we could always just work things out they way they do on PBB [Muaha]
Fuck rep power. It'll be back to GT for me if that ever happens.
The feedback forum is all the rep we need. It's frustrating when you get neg rep'd from somebody too chicken shit to leave their name.
hey now! I just left you a +1 for helping me out! [Tooth]
My last buys. [Beer]
I agree. All the complaining over the new members posting stuff for sale is just a bunch of girls crying a river. The classified are fine if the new over zealous mods would take a chill pill. It is the best classified site for gun owners and buyers in the state of Colorado. However, I am 100% convinced that it is subject to change and could be headed down hill.
I didn't vote because I think it is fine as it is.
Frankly I don't give a flying fuck if you think it's fine or not. YOU aren't the one dealing with the whiny little girls that feel that they got offended by somebody in that place. Now if you feel the need to take a shot at my mods again, Feel free to leave and whine about it over at that other place.
Frankly I'm sick of your crap.
I was originally brought here by a cross post on a for sale item that was posted on another forum. I made a point of learning the "lay of the land" before making any posts.If only there were a way to make all of the n00bs do the same...
I'm pretty sure I never posted in the New Members forum...not much point in that now, eh?
mevshooter
10-08-2011, 21:07
I don't care if this comes off as brown nosing or ass kissing, but I was taught that when you play in someone else' yard, you follow their rules.
Last time I checked, this was a FREE forum, and the fact that Marlin and the other mods are asking our "opinions" is really a considerable act of kindness. Those in charge are allowed to do as they please, just like private business owners can refuse service to anyone for any reason, or anyone here can decide not to do business with a specific forum member or members.
For as much "crying and whining" as all of us are doing for wanting a higher post requirement, it sure sounds like the other side is doing just as much of this "crying and whining" as the rest of us.
Marlin,
I seriously appreciate what you have here, and I'm truly sorry for whatever bullshit it is that you have to put up with on a day to day, hour by hour basis. I apologize if I have ever caused you a headache or any inconvenience. If I ever do something that consistently bothers you, please send me a PM and let me know so I can correct that behavior. Set the bar where you think it is best, and I, as well as all of the other grateful people on here, will get to that point so we can sell in the Trading Post.
Nope, I for one share PC's with other users, my wife, brother, co-worker etc. I share work PC, laptop, and phone on occasion. So banning 1 IP could ban multiple legit members.
okay, didn't know that. that wouldn't definitely stink! I'm not a computer guy, so I don't much this stuff!
jerrymrc
10-08-2011, 21:20
I don't care if this comes off as brown nosing or ass kissing, but I was taught that when you play in someone else' yard, you follow their rules.
Last time I checked, this was a FREE forum, and the fact that Marlin and the other mods are asking our "opinions" is really a considerable act of kindness. Those in charge are allowed to do as they please, just like private business owners can refuse service to anyone for any reason, or anyone here can decide not to do business with a specific forum member or members.
For as much "crying and whining" as all of us are doing for wanting a higher post requirement, it sure sounds like the other side is doing just as much of this "crying and whining" as the rest of us.
Marlin,
I seriously appreciate what you have here, and I'm truly sorry for whatever bullshit it is that you have to put up with on a day to day, hour by hour basis. I apologize if I have ever caused you a headache or any inconvenience. If I ever do something that consistently bothers you, please send me a PM and let me know so I can correct that behavior. Set the bar where you think it is best, and I, as well as all of the other grateful people on here, will get to that point so we can sell in the Trading Post.
That is why the staff are asking for your input. We are trying to take care of the issues that have come about in the last year as we grow.
The WTS/WTB has become our headache. A few simple rules that worked for years do not seem to apply now. Everybody wants to skirt the rules and turn this place into Craigslist or Erape.
We almost have zero problems in all the sections until we get to three areas. The WTSF, WTSFA, and WTSNF. These three sections cause 90% of the moderating.
Just a thought.
BPTactical
10-08-2011, 21:21
I don't care if this comes off as brown nosing or ass kissing, but I was taught that when you play in someone else' yard, you follow their rules.
Last time I checked, this was a FREE forum, and the fact that Marlin and the other mods are asking our "opinions" is really a considerable act of kindness. Those in charge are allowed to do as they please, just like private business owners can refuse service to anyone for any reason, or anyone here can decide not to do business with a specific forum member or members.
For as much "crying and whining" as all of us are doing for wanting a higher post requirement, it sure sounds like the other side is doing just as much of this "crying and whining" as the rest of us.
Marlin,
I seriously appreciate what you have here, and I'm truly sorry for whatever bullshit it is that you have to put up with on a day to day, hour by hour basis. I apologize if I have ever caused you a headache or any inconvenience. If I ever do something that consistently bothers you, please send me a PM and let me know so I can correct that behavior. Set the bar where you think it is best, and I, as well as all of the other grateful people on here, will get to that point so we can sell in the Trading Post.
Well, somebody else gets it.
I for one am truly grateful for this site. I know sometimes I am a PITA and come off as less than proffesional at times (working on it) but agree-their house, their rules.
Thanks Mods for all you do for FREE[Beer][Beer][Beer][Beer]
Well, somebody else gets it.
I for one am truly grateful for this site. I know sometimes I am a PITA and come off as less than proffesional at times (working on it) but agree-their house, their rules.
Thanks Mods for all you do for FREE[Beer][Beer][Beer][Beer]
+1
If I ever get to meet the mods, a beverage of their choice is on my dime.
I really DO try not to be an ass....[Tooth]
Mods, quick question:
I have seen a few of the posts in question that are breaking the rules. With all that is going on lately, what is the best course of action for the members to take?
report?
rip their ass in a post?
PM them?
post a link to the rules...which they should have read already?
combination of the above?
Well, somebody else gets it.
I for one am truly grateful for this site. I know sometimes I am a PITA and come off as less than proffesional at times (working on it) but agree-their house, their rules.
Thanks Mods for all you do for FREE[Beer][Beer][Beer][Beer]
yep , bp hit it right on the nose
alan0269
10-08-2011, 21:41
I guess I'm in the minority as I don't see a problem with low post count sellers (or folk who come here just to sell). I figure the more people buying and selling, the more likelihood that I'll find something I want or find a buyer when I need to sell.
If you don't trust low post count folk, don't deal with them.
I don't really have an issue with low post count sellers either. If you don't want to deal with them, you don't have to. I've been known to hold items for people that I've either a) dealt with personally or b) have plenty of positive feedback from others here, but if someone doesn't fit in those categories, I most likely won't hold something for them more than a day or so.
On the other hand, I'm sure that many of the headaches that the mods have stemming from the want ads sections are from new members that are only here for another place to list their items and don't care to take the time to read, or follow, the rules that have been set up for posting there.
RYAN50BMG
10-08-2011, 21:56
I think 50 would be fine. Also, an "under 50$ (or100) " board might be an option. It seems like a lot of low post-count folks are looking to sell low price stuff that may just have lying around, like an extra buttstock or a few boxes of ammo they don't need.
DD977GM2
10-08-2011, 22:45
100 and Id say legitimate posts etc.
Im personally am irritated with all the MSRP and Brand fucking new prices for a well used and tons of holster wear and is generally a beat up piece of iron or polymer firearm.
If you have shot 1000 rounds out of your pistol, IT IS NOT LNIB. I dont give a damn how many range trips this took and how many damn times you cleaned it after each range trip. It still has had 1000 rounds through it and all that holster wear and knicks are from extensive use. Also if the night sights are dimming, ITS NOT LNIB.
People need to learn how to price things accordingly to how much the firearm was actually used. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Rant1][Rant1][Rant1][Rant1][Rant2][Rant2][Rant2][Rant2]
Drilldov2.0
10-08-2011, 23:07
wouldn't an entire IP or user ban (not just the members name) solve most of the multi-account offenders?
While I am not certain, I don't think so. Unless someone who is an offender has a static IP and no access to another computer an "entire ip ban" would entail banning every user of an isp wherein you are issued a dynamic ip every time you log in. That would prove detrimental to the trading post. Then there is the question of proxy servers. There is really too much to consider when dealing with online transactions. If we need to lock down the trading post because of abuses, then only a ftf transfer with a 3rd party witness would suffice. Perhaps an FTF day at a Site shoot? I don't know what is the solution right now. Is setting up a group COAR15 Trading post day where transactions can be held and some shooting done be too unreasonable? Once a month for now with other members present? Just spit balling here.
GoldFinger
10-09-2011, 00:41
I may be in the minority opinion here, but in my personal case the post count and/or time would have been a negative impression for me. Found this site when I started getting interested in firearms, and I bought my first AR here that was probably about my 5th post. That was it for me, I was hooked, not only on the firearms aspect but also the amussing banter on this site.
Granted, I don't have to deal with the crap the MODs deal with, but from a user perspective it might have come out different for me had I had to be one of the "good ol boys" to actually get into the game.
Just my 2 cents and if you don't agree I'm happy to fully refund your purchase price on this opinion.
:)
BTW, I've learned more from the people on this site than I ever could hope to contribute. Thanks COAR15.
lead_magnet
10-09-2011, 00:44
I agree, it SUCKS being a new guy and not meeting requirements because you don't post general BS alot. Not that shooting the shit is a bad thing, its just that some of us read, and if there is nothing valuable to contribute that hasn't been said before, we dont' feel the need to "+1" ... :P
So in essence, "+1" to the guy above me. HA!
Go ahead, mod me...I'm wearing my mod-proof vest Fooooo.
Wow...maybe I should stop drinking for the night.
I voted 50 only because 15 wasnt an option.
rfenster
10-09-2011, 01:26
I voted 100, but then realized that as a newb myself I wouldn't be allowed to post over there without seriously utilizing the 'post whore thread', etc.
Post count shouldn't matter on boards, but apparently it does
Maybe a rule on the order of 'member in good standing for 45 days with at least 15 posts' would be appropriate?
If someone flags your posts more than 'N' times, where N>5, then your 'good standing' flag gets reset and you can't post in the for sale forums without resolving your issue with a moderator or three.
just my .02
I dont think there should be a post minimum. I am here to buy and sell.
Why would I care if someone has a certain amount of posts... I dont.
People need to be adults and read through the bull shit. There are always going to be the nerds that make stupid posts but in the end it dosent matter. Most of us are hear to find great deals on firearms and firearm accessories.
CMP_5.56
10-09-2011, 03:31
I was going to read all 12 pages of this thread, but I think i saw everything I needed to in 6. I don't think post counts mean anything more than someone has time to post more often than others. There are plenty of good guys with low post counts, and some real jerks with high post counts. In the end the feedback is the best way to keep people honest.
As far ad charging to have access to the trading post, I don't agree with that either. That turns away people with good deals, that might not be willing to pay to post. I came to this forum because I saw it mentioned on another one that charges. I liked the forum for more than the trading post section as soon as I checked it out. But honestly, I probably wouldn't post as often if there was a charge to take part in the classified section.
Just my opinion.
I think the membership here can separate the wheat from the chaff.
I don't like minimum posts counts on other boards either.
There will always be good guys and POS people regardless of post count.
I can see that there are a lot of people that do not follow the rules. One thing that might help is if we had a standardized for sale add layout, eg. Box 1: enter Price, Box 2: Enter item description, Box 3: enter trades etc... If all boxes do not have a valid input then the post just doesn't go through. If there is bullshit like $1 then you can just auto delete it. This would at least make people follow the posting rules a little better.
As far as posting count goes, I think that it would cause a bunch of extra crap to be posted all over that will not benefit anyone. Time on the website will fix most of the other problems. The one stop shoppers and sellers that are not likely to respect the rules of the forum will likely forget about the item in 10 days much less a month. I try to make all of my posts meaningful and it takes me a while to build up a post count. I have however bought multiple things from the trading post that have really helped me out from both noobs and vets of the site and I am still not up to 100 posts. During my day I pick a thread and read it, go to trading post for deals, look at another thread of interest, check the trading post for new deals, look at funny pictures thread, check the trading post... and so on.
This place is an amazing wealth of information, and hopefully with time I can contribute more to help those just starting out, but I think that adding too many regulations to the trading post will greatly reduce volume and eventually reduce interest in the site for a lot of people. I would be bummed if it was the same three guns being sold and traded back and fourth day after day.
Delfuego
10-09-2011, 08:43
Why not make it a time table as opposed to a post "count" this would keep people from posting all the +1 or other garbage. Member for 30/60/90 days?
Another subject that was brought up earlier that I would like to ask a question about is the archived trading post adds. Why are they still available for people to google and bring up? If it is possible I would like to see them permanently deleted once the last post is a month old. This would keep them dead, and would also aid the mods in minimizing junk posts.
Troublco
10-09-2011, 09:07
Late to the game, but oh well.
I didn't join this site to be buying and selling stuff. I like dealing with the folks here when I do, and I always check here before I buy something to see if I can deal with someone on this site (whether it's an individual or an industry partner) before I go buy something from Sportsman's or a similar place. I like the fact that we are basically self-policing (with a LOT of help from the mods) and I know that for the most part I can deal with someone who's been on this site for a while with confidence. But as I see this site as a place to get and share info and BS with some of the folks I've gotten to know, and not as much a sale site, I'm going to vote for 100. I think you should be here for the right reasons, not because you're looking for a marketplace.
Oh, and Howdy, y'all!
jonnyd49
10-09-2011, 09:28
I'm one of those guys who reads a lot on forums, but rarely post. I'd rather "be thought ignorant than open my mouth and prove it." There is one forum that I've been a member of for nearly 8 years that I just reached the 100-post mark. I've also made some purchases from the trading post and feel I've been very fair in my dealings with others. How about a "minimum of 25 posts AND 3 months membership" or something along those lines. Maybe 6 months. Just a thought.
brokenscout
10-09-2011, 09:36
I think the Mods do a great job, so whatever they do will most likely be fine. I like RMGO's where people can't bump the add all the time. Or how about if people keep F>>>ing up, close the For Sale Section for acouple days, then the sellers would move on (and my wife would be happy:) . Good job Mods and to be honest, its cool that a poll was even conducted. Thanks again
jerrymrc
10-09-2011, 13:40
I will close this soon as the new rules have been put in place. 15 post/30 days for the new people. Any body that is under 30 days right now will NOT be able to see the TP. If you spend your 30 days being nice and make a few posts then all will be reviled on day 31.
jscwerve
10-09-2011, 15:12
I will close this soon as the new rules have been put in place. 15 post/30 days for the new people. Any body that is under 30 days right now will NOT be able to see the TP. If you spend your 30 days being nice and make a few posts then all will be reviled on day 31.
Perfect. That keeps people from joining up just to be able to send a PM to a member for an item. I think this will help out a lot.
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