AR-15 Pistol?

[electronman1729]

So been looking for a new toy. I have considered all kinds of rifles but what about a AR-15 pistol. Any shooters out there? How is one properly shot? Do you put your cheek on the buffer tube?

Thanks

[Zundfolge]

The one I've shot had foam padding on the buffer tube and you could kind of push it against your shoulder like a stock. Not as solid as a rifle stock, but since the 5.56mm doesn't kick all that bad, it works ok.

AR pistols are just like you said, toys ... although if you pony up the $200 plus the cost of a stock and SBR it, then you have something useful (but my GOD they're loud ... which is half the fun).

[mcantar18c]

I'd go with an AK47 pistol. The x39 round doesn't lose nearly as much of its oomph from a short barrel as the 5.56 does.

[Zundfolge]

also note that if you get the bright idea of putting a vertical fore grip on an AR or AK pistol you've just created an AOW and need to register it with the feds and pay your tax stamp,

[Great-Kazoo]

I'd go with an AK47 pistol. The x39 round doesn't lose nearly as much of its oomph from a short barrel as the 5.56 does.


then you would have something like this
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/gun%20pic%20place/000_0001-3.jpg

i removed the wood furniture and slapped some spares i had in storage. i then removed the bbl nut and installed this FN hider i cut down. I made it for an AMD project to keep the bbl at 16"OAL but tried it on the draco-c. eventually i might actually fire it.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/gun%20pic%20place/000_0002-6.jpg

[Irving]

also note that if you get the bright idea of putting a vertical fore grip on an AR or AK pistol you've just created an AOW and need to register it with the feds and pay your tax stamp,

And you'd have to do all this paperwork BEFORE you get the idea to attach the vertical fore grip.

[Great-Kazoo]

you can run a magpul VFG as the feds have ruled it to be Not a grip that would make your pistol a SBR? I will dig up the reference if you absolutely must have it.

[colocowboy01]

then you would have something like this
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/gun%20pic%20place/000_0001-3.jpg

i removed the wood furniture and slapped some spares i had in storage. i then removed the bbl nut and installed this FN hider i cut down. I made it for an AMD project to keep the bbl at 16"OAL but tried it on the draco-c. eventually i might actually fire it.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/51jim/gun%20pic%20place/000_0002-6.jpg

That is a sweet looking weapon.

[Ridge]

you can run a magpul AFG as the feds have ruled it to be Not a grip that would make your pistol a SBR? I will dig up the reference if you absolutely must have it.

Fixed that for ya.

[ChunkyMonkey]

you can run a magpul VFG as the feds have ruled it to be Not a grip that would make your pistol a SBR? I will dig up the reference if you absolutely must have it.

Hey Jim, Could you post/forward any reference on this please? I have been thinking about it, and have been told that it would've been an AOW.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Found it...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B0qyloA48O3XZWFjYjMwYTMtYTg1MC00NzVhLWI3NmM tZDRiNTMzNzdhMzUx&hl=en_US

Q&A #7 says...
Can I lawfully install a Magpul AFG [Angled fore grip] on the bottom accessory rail of the subject AR-15 type pistol?

Yes

[BPTactical]

Thanks for finding that MB88. One Magpull coming up[Muaha]

OP- AR pistols are a kick in the pants. Compact, powerful and as mentioned before-LOUD!
Accuracy is fair out to 100 yards-pie plate size groups but I supposed with an optic of some sort I could do better. I just have Magpull BUIS.
LOUD!
You can bring it up and get a halfway decent cheekweld on the buffer.
Great "truck gun" for road trips.
LOUD!
Lotsa fun at a range, one of those items that will make everybody go "What the hell was that"?
Very good at placing a silly grin on the shooters face that takes a while to go away.
LOUD!
Dark ranges and firing at night cause a large flaming pumpkin to belch from the muzzle, again resulting in a silly grin.
LOUD!
Get one complete from the factory, a lot of builds are problematic in one way or another, they are more sensitive than a regular AR.

[StagLefty]

GET ONE !!! [Beer]

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/StagLefty/AR/Shorty.jpg

[Great-Kazoo]

Here is the actual link to ATF website.

http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf

[electronman1729]

Thanks all for the info. Defenity work a real look into. Like I said just looking for a ridiculous awesome new toy. As far as the AK pistols they are still pretty cool but I mainly stick to .223. Thanks again for all the good info. I will also consider the SBR option as well. how does one get started with getting a SBR? Is there a for on the ATf website?

Thanks again

[SAnd]

The NFA forum on this website is a good start.

A good place for ATF NFA info is the ATF NFA handbook-
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/nfa-handbook/

There are local NFA dealers that can be helpful also.

Be very careful! NFA stamp collection can be addicting.

Have Fun.

[electronman1729]

So I am highly thinking of a AR SBR. Can i just buy an upper 7" and register my current Ar-15 lower as an SBR and switch between the 16" and 7" when i feel like it? Will there be the same problems as a kit build as BP stated? Any recomentations for an upper 7" or a complete AR SBR? looking at a 7" or 10" upper from Rock River. Which one is shall we say more "fun".

Thanks

[Circuits]

So I am highly thinking of a AR SBR. Can i just buy an upper 7" and register my current Ar-15 lower as an SBR and switch between the 16" and 7" when i feel like it? Will there be the same problems as a kit build as BP stated? Any recomentations for an upper 7" or a complete AR SBR? looking at a 7" or 10" upper from Rock River. Which one is shall we say more "fun".

Thanks

I like my DPMS "KittyKat" 7.5" upper, and it runs flawlessly for me in both semi and full auto.

[Atrain1]

Thanks for finding that MB88. One Magpull coming up[Muaha]

OP- AR pistols are a kick in the pants. Compact, powerful and as mentioned before-LOUD!
Accuracy is fair out to 100 yards-pie plate size groups but I supposed with an optic of some sort I could do better. I just have Magpull BUIS.
LOUD!
You can bring it up and get a halfway decent cheekweld on the buffer.
Great "truck gun" for road trips.
LOUD!
Lotsa fun at a range, one of those items that will make everybody go "What the hell was that"?
Very good at placing a silly grin on the shooters face that takes a while to go away.
LOUD!
Dark ranges and firing at night cause a large flaming pumpkin to belch from the muzzle, again resulting in a silly grin.
LOUD!
Get one complete from the factory, a lot of builds are problematic in one way or another, they are more sensitive than a regular AR. Did he mention they are loud? LOL I would go with the AR pistol over the AK any day of the week, dont get me wrong I like the AK I own a few of them, but I also own an AR and I like it so much I dont shoot it anymore, that is why I purchased th AK47 I shoot those instead. IMO the AK has alot more power but not as accurate as the AR.

[SideShow Bob]

Anybody have or shot one of those PTR pistols in .308 ? As long as you are going for fun, might as well go BIG.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Anybody have or shot one of those PTR pistols in .308 ? As long as you are going for fun, might as well go BIG.

Big you say?

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[DFBrews]

^^^^that does not look safe

[StagLefty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4wJqKUmQ4

[jackthewall81]

what the hell kind of gun is that! holy smokes. scared the shvt out of him.