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Great-Kazoo
10-09-2011, 22:50
Got you to look:)
Anyway, who are the resident gurus regarding TV's? This wi-fi ready tv's intrigues me. Who among you have a wi-fi ready tv, your "opinion" of them and it is the same / close/ not even like using a computer to watch tv online?? If you don't have one your opinion anyway, only it's about tv's not 9mm vs. 45 etc
I am leaning towards a LED vs LCD and noticed a few list wi-fi as part of the package.
your input is appreciated.
sniper7
10-09-2011, 22:54
I know I want one.

LED IMO is much better than LCD.

Don't know much about the wi-fi in the TV other than it would open up a whole new world of what you could watch on your TV.

cwrpinwiz sells TVs all the time in the FS section...without using the template mind you[Stooge]. I bet he knows a lot about it.
Graves
10-09-2011, 23:03
LED is LCD, it boils down to different lighting (ccfl vs led) LED's much more efficient and brighter so it comes at a higher premium. Plasma has the edge in refresh rate but lcd's just now making headway on that with the new 240hz panels <--makes a huuuuuge difference.

I don't have much to add about wifi as I have just about all the same features (hulu/Netflix/FB/etc.) with my xbox and wii. I think it's a great feature as you can always do firmware updates virtually pain free.
trlcavscout
10-10-2011, 00:52
I seen an LED a few weeks ago that made everything look like a funny cartoon? WIFI is the way to go, netflix/block buster etc at your finger tips as well as web surfing depending on the TV.

Note: X box is going to be able to show "On Demand" soon I hear.
Elhuero
10-10-2011, 01:27
yah, LED and LCD are the same. right now LED is newer and therefore more expensive.

I got an off brand best buy special 42inch 1080p LED flatscreen and it's just peachy.

all wireless means is your TV will talk to components like tuners, PCs, and xboxes without wires.

in another 10 years wireless will be standard.

I'm old school. wire everyfukinwhere.
eadgbe194
10-10-2011, 06:25
I wanted a wifi TV but I went with a cheaper TV and an Xbox instead. It cost about the same and I have an Xbox
Fried Chicken Blowout
10-10-2011, 07:54
Here's my take... Don't pay extra because your TV has WiFi and some sort of Internet supplied programming. You will have your TV for a long time and the content may shift to different providers that are not part of your TV's package. By the way, we do only internet TV content in our house. I got rid of the $80/mo satellite bill a few months back and nobody in the house has complained about it.

For our interface boxes we use the AppleTV2 as the primary and a Roku. This way you can adjust your content providers by getting a different box if needed. I would also suggest a wired connection rather than a wifi. PM me if you need more info...
SouthPaw
10-10-2011, 09:17
If you plan on keeping it in a low light room like a basement or something similar plasma would be a great option. They are cheaper than both LCD and LED and have great color. The only down side is that if its going in a living room natural light can kill the color and make it difficult to watch. I personally enjoy LED the best because of the bright colors and clarity.
Colorado_Outback
10-10-2011, 09:19
I got an off brand best buy special 42inch 1080p LED flatscreen and it's just peachy.



Is that the Westinghouse brand? How long have you had it?
ghettodub
10-10-2011, 09:24
Having an internet-connected TV is awesome, and I love having all my net goodies. Wireless though is just a niceity though. I'd be more concerned with having an LED. LEDs just look nicer...
daknee_k
10-10-2011, 09:34
Biggest issue is how you use your TV. Do you watch local news all the time or is it on sports all day long. Do you have kids playing video games for hours and hours? Budget, size of your room, old eyes, room lighting, all play into it. My experience is that you want to have a Big name brand unit rather than the cheapest Wally World special if yo want it to last longer than the warranty period (90 days to a year). Netflix and the other online services are great if you are not my mother who needs me to tell her where the on button is every coupla months. The newer plasmas are a great deal right now with a good balance of size clarity and lack of problems like picture burn in or dropped pixels. This is mainly because big screen plasmas have been around for awhile. Figure on some heat being put out by your big screen, even with the latest LED lit TVs. The laws of physics still apply no matter what the latest glossy marketing sheet says. Buy from a place that has a good return policy so if there is an issue, you can get it taken care of right away.
bleagghh this is getting long.[BooHoo]
hollohas
10-10-2011, 09:35
I have an LED LCD with Wi-Fi. I use the internet content ALL the time. As someone mentioned earlier, internet content may change in the future but that doesn't mean your Wi-Fi TV will lose access. They download updates just like your computer does. With a good internet TV my guess is you will always have access to all the top online content.

My Sony TV has access to way more than I could ever want. Currently I use Amazon, Netflix and YouTube on it frequently. It also has things like Pandora, Hulu, Slacker, Qriocity and Picasa. One of the things I like most about it is you can sit down and show a slideshow your digital pictures that are stored on your computer. Or use your big screen to watch digital home movies that are stored on your computer. All without an extra box, equipment or wires.

Personally I stay away from Plasma. They do have great images but the individual plasma cells can burst at higher altitudes...I would seriously think twice about buying one if you live anywhere above Denver. I have had many friends with Plasma's that had burst cells in the mountains...and your warranty won't cover it until you have a certain percentage of cells burst so you have to live with little black spots all over your screen.

I'll also add, go with 240hz. If in doubt, find an electronics store that has 3 similar TVs displayed side-by-side all showing the same video but at different rates (60hz, 120hz, 240hz). You will see the difference immediately.
Graves
10-10-2011, 09:40
We have a plasmas in our cabin @ 9600' - no bursting of the cells there. [Dunno]
hollohas
10-10-2011, 09:51
We have a plasmas in our cabin @ 9600' - no bursting of the cells there. [Dunno]

Good news. I had read that in Home Theater magazine a couple years ago as well as witnessing it but perhaps technology has fixed the problem or it only applies to the cheaper sets. Either way, glad to hear it has not been an issue for you.
Byte Stryke
10-10-2011, 12:17
I have an LED LCD with Wi-Fi. I use the internet content ALL the time. As someone mentioned earlier, internet content may change in the future but that doesn't mean your Wi-Fi TV will lose access. They download updates just like your computer does. With a good internet TV my guess is you will always have access to all the top online content.

My Sony TV has access to way more than I could ever want. Currently I use Amazon, Netflix and YouTube on it frequently. It also has things like Pandora, Hulu, Slacker, Qriocity and Picasa. One of the things I like most about it is you can sit down and show a slideshow your digital pictures that are stored on your computer. Or use your big screen to watch digital home movies that are stored on your computer. All without an extra box, equipment or wires.

I'll also add, go with 240hz. If in doubt, find an electronics store that has 3 similar TVs displayed side-by-side all showing the same video but at different rates (60hz, 120hz, 240hz). You will see the difference immediately.

This^


I have a Samsung 50" LED wi-fi as well as an Ethernet jack.
Love it.

would recommend it to anyone.

I would reiterate going and looking at them side by side and making your choice that way.
Circuits
10-10-2011, 12:26
You need to make sure the Internet component supports what you want, or the wifi (or even wired) networking is useless. Many less expensive tvs only support the content and channel stores of the manufacturer, requiring monthly subscriptions and/or pay per view fees to even get to Netflix or amazon prime.

The only semi-worthwhile online content I can get on my Mitsubishi is pandora, so I don't even turn on networking except to check for firmware updates, and I feed Internet content to the tv with an apple tv, a roku, and a PS3.
Jer
10-10-2011, 12:30
Personally I stay away from Plasma. They do have great images but the individual plasma cells can burst at higher altitudes...I would seriously think twice about buying one if you live anywhere above Denver. I have had many friends with Plasma's that had burst cells in the mountains...and your warranty won't cover it until you have a certain percentage of cells burst so you have to live with little black spots all over your screen.

Uhmmm... no.
Byte Stryke
10-10-2011, 12:38
You need to make sure the Internet component supports what you want, or the wifi (or even wired) networking is useless. Many less expensive tvs only support the content and channel stores of the manufacturer, requiring monthly subscriptions and/or pay per view fees to even get to Netflix or amazon prime.

The only semi-worthwhile online content I can get on my Mitsubishi is pandora, so I don't even turn on networking except to check for firmware updates, and I feed Internet content to the tv with an apple tv, a roku, and a PS3.

with my Samsung I can access any shared media from any computer on my network.


this varies between manufacturers
daknee_k
10-10-2011, 12:42
Old plasma displays had huge problems with altitude. It came down to pressure and how they were made. Course, back then a 50" would cost you 10 grand or more. If you are fairly tech savvy, (this is a net forum) you will love internet connectivity. That being said, almost any modern display can be hooked into practically any modern computer. Have an old machine? Dedicate it to use as a net appliance. Then you can surf away or watch your shows. Lots of ways to skin a cat.
Jer
10-10-2011, 12:59
Old plasma displays had huge problems with altitude. It came down to pressure and how they were made. Course, back then a 50" would cost you 10 grand or more. If you are fairly tech savvy, (this is a net forum) you will love internet connectivity. That being said, almost any modern display can be hooked into practically any modern computer. Have an old machine? Dedicate it to use as a net appliance. Then you can surf away or watch your shows. Lots of ways to skin a cat.

We're still talking about a short coming of some generation 1 (read: 10yrs ago) as a negative to owning a plasma? I don't think you were so much as others in this thread so I'm not quoting you to attack you. I'm just amazed that people still spread anti-plasma urban legend from 10yrs ago as reasons to not buy.

For the record, I have several plasmas and one of which is a 50" Maxent. It's basically a rebadged Panasonic (same glass & same boards) for a lot less money. At the time the Panasonic was almost $5k I paid $2k and it's been hanging on our wall in our bedroom ever since. No hissing, no 'burst cells' just one of the best pictures a person could want at a fraction of the top of the line option at the time and never a problem.
daknee_k
10-10-2011, 13:18
Yeah, I totally hear you there. Same like all Ford Pintos are fiery deathtraps, Chevy Corvairs will kill you if you look at them sideways, all GMC trucks burst into flames on side impact, all Ford Exploders turn over when their tires blow out, all CCW holders are delusional....

I've been an AV contractor for 19 years and some of the things we do for the Tech edge is crazy. Does anyone really think 3D is the next big thing again? Maybe when we have good cheap holographic projectors wired into our butt. Or was that nacho cheese.
cofi
10-10-2011, 15:07
love my wifi tv having netflix right on the tv is the bees knees