View Full Version : Top Shot Season 3 - Jake Targets
blacklabel
10-12-2011, 11:55
If you've watched any of Season 3, you probably can't stand Jake just like everyone else. Fortunately his biggest rival, Mike, has created a safe way for you to take out that frustration.
https://nextleveltraining.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/zweig%20target%20for%20sale.jpg
https://nextleveltraining.com/product/jake-zweig-targets-10-pack
Mike is the owner of Next Level Training.
I give this an ice cube's chance in hell. A white guy selling targets of a black man to other white guys[ROFL1]
[ROFL1] That's awesome. I stopped watching that show when I realized the producers were gonna do that "keep that douchebag around for the ratings" thing and I would have to listen to his crap for the rest of the season.
Zundfolge
10-12-2011, 12:03
[ROFL1] That's awesome. I stopped watching that show when I realized the producers were gonna do that "keep that douchebag around for the ratings" thing and I would have to listen to his crap for the rest of the season.
How the Jake situation resolved itself after last nights episode made putting up with Jake's BS worth it.
Gonna be getting a visit from the Justice Brothers
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blacklabel
10-12-2011, 12:06
How the Jake situation resolved itself after last nights episode made putting up with Jake's BS worth it.
Hell yeah it did.
How the Jake situation resolved itself after last nights episode made putting up with Jake's BS worth it.
Wouldn't know, haven't been watching! What happened?
hollohas
10-12-2011, 12:11
I have a hard time believing that guy is a former Seal because Seals are not
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Quitters. What a douche.
Rooskibar03
10-12-2011, 12:13
How the Jake situation resolved itself after last nights episode made putting up with Jake's BS worth it.
x2. I couldn't have been happier with last nights show.
Zundfolge
10-12-2011, 12:25
Wouldn't know, haven't been watching! What happened?
Don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it so highlight the text between the lines.
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Jake got sent to elimination again so he just quit instead of shoot like the baby he is. So they brought Mike back from the dead to take his place in the elimination competition and he won so he's back in the game.
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I think it is fair to say that that brotherhood would have outed him if he was a fake. His problem is that he is used to dealing with reality, and Top Shot is just like all other reality TV. It has nothing to do with reality. The whole concept is like something that Barbara Walters and the hen pack concocted. "Yeah we'll take the concept of Big Brother( a bunch of metrosexuals and bimbos) and add guns. Yeah that's it."
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Quitters. What a douche.
One Shot
10-12-2011, 12:34
Yeah that guy was a complete douche bag.. He claims to be a Navy Seal...
Wow. What a great way to conduct yourself. That guy's a disgrace I'm glad he's gone. In fact I remember thinking when I was watching "boy, if all the SEALs are like this, I'm glad I didn't go Navy."
Still probably won't watch the show though...
hollohas
10-12-2011, 12:35
I think it is fair to say that that brotherhood would have outed him if he was a fake. His problem is that he is used to dealing with reality, and Top Shot is just like all other reality TV. It has nothing to do with reality. The whole concept is like something that Barbara Walters and the hen pack concocted. "Yeah we'll take the concept of Big Brother( a bunch of metrosexuals and bimbos) and add guns. Yeah that's it."
Maybe so but he didn't do what he did because he is used to reality and the show isn't real. He did it because he didn't want to lose in a fight one-on-one, plain and simple. Major tool that guy.
Oh man thats fricken awesome!!
Maybe so but he didn't do what he did because he is used to reality and the show isn't real. He did it because he didn't want to lose in a fight one-on-one, plain and simple. Major tool that guy.
I have to agree he didn't represent. I think he allowed the psychology of the metrosexuals get to him. This surprised me because as a football coach part of his job description is being a councilor. The crazy part is that that elimination challenge would have been right in his comfort zone.
And he still isn't as annoying as that homeland security douchebag.
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I think Jake was a cry baby and should have been sent home like a man. And Mike was still at the bus station waiting for his bus. It was a no brainer to bring him back.
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blacklabel
10-12-2011, 18:57
I have to agree he didn't represent. I think he allowed
the psychology of the metrosexuals get to him.
You've got a poor idea of what a metrosexual is. I think the vast majority of the guys on the show are genuine and I would hardly call any of them metrosexual.
You might be "metrosexual" if:
1. You just can't walk past a Banana Republic store without making a purchase.
2. You own 20 pairs of shoes, half a dozen pairs of sunglasses, just as many watches and you carry a man-purse.
3. You see a stylist instead of a barber, because barbers don't do highlights.
4. You can make her lamb shanks and risotto for dinner and Eggs Benedict for breakfast... all from scratch.
5. You only wear Calvin Klein boxer-briefs.
6. You shave more than just your face. You also exfoliate and moisturize.
7. You would never, ever own a pickup truck.
8. You can't imagine a day without hair styling products.
9. You'd rather drink wine than beer... but you'll find out what estate and vintage first.
10. Despite being flattered (even proud) that gay guys hit on you, you still find the thought of actually getting intimate with another man truly repulsive.
Jake was a jackass and knew he couldn't compete on the range so he tried to do it by screwing with people. He's the only one in three seasons that I can remember trying to turn the show into Survivor with Guns.
You've got a poor idea of what a metrosexual is. I think the vast majority of the guys on the show are genuine and I would hardly call any of them metrosexual.
Jake was a jackass and knew he couldn't compete on the range so he tried to do it by screwing with people. He's the only one in three seasons that I can remember trying to turn the show into Survivor with Guns.
Now that is a Survivor series I'd watch.
Zundfolge
10-12-2011, 20:05
He's the only one in three seasons that I can remember trying to turn the show into Survivor with Guns.
No doubt ... last season I thought George was a tool (and then he went and redeemed himself at the end there). But at his worse George was nothing like this Jake schmuck.
I'm honestly surprised Jake didn't pull the race card (he came close with the whining about how he didn't get respect from the others because he's not a "gun guy").
blacklabel
10-12-2011, 20:24
No doubt ... last season I thought George was a tool (and then he went and redeemed himself at the end there). But at his worse George was nothing like this Jake schmuck.
I actually didn't mind George at all. He was entertaining and then how he handled the end showed how much character he had.
stevelkinevil
10-12-2011, 21:01
I actually didn't mind George at all. He was entertaining and then how he handled the end showed how much character he had.
George irritated me to no end. What a perfect example of a big meathead moronic douche. However Jake put him to shame in the douche dept. and he was a weak arse quitter to boot. He acted like a spoiled little 4 year old the whole show, sad rep for the Seals indeed.
Here is a challenge for all the "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks.
Read this interview.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/867730-untitled
I still think he is a cry baby that is used to getting his way and whines when he doesn't.
Drilldov2.0
10-13-2011, 03:15
You've got a poor idea of what a metrosexual is. I think the vast majority of the guys on the show are genuine and I would hardly call any of them metrosexual.
Jake was a jackass and knew he couldn't compete on the range so he tried to do it by screwing with people. He's the only one in three seasons that I can remember trying to turn the show into Survivor with Guns.
Jake was a jackass and knew he couldn't compete on the range so he tried to do it by screwing with people. He's the only one in three seasons that I can remember trying to turn the show into Survivor with Guns.
actually I think he did very well on the range. totally destroyed the guy in the corner shot elimination.
he's a good shot, and has a lot of drive, but he has to be in control. his behavior goes way past a typical type A personality. I think he's got some undiagnosed problems that make him incapable of handling defeat or rejection. I've known a few people like that. the stereotypical bully that's crying on the inside.
he threw a fit when he was nominated to go to elimination the first time, and his attitude never changed back because in his mind that would be a sign of weakness.
he was gripping the racegun wrong and engaged the safety, but I'm sure he will claim that he was given a defective pistol in some kind of scheme to get him out. (like he claims about his departure from the seals) the mind of someone with paranoia or bolderline personality disorder can come up with amazingly intricate ideas on who's out to get them and why.
underneath it all I sure he's a good person, but the guy has some major emotional problems.
Zundfolge
10-13-2011, 08:42
Here is a challenge for all the "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks.
Read this interview.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/867730-untitled
I'm sure some of the drama was due to clever editing, but it doesn't change the fact that he QUIT instead of actually shooting his elimination. That speaks volumes about his character.
I think he's got some undiagnosed problems that make him incapable of handling defeat or rejection.
Classic NPD (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001930/) ... just like my mother in law.
Elhuero, I agree with ya the guy actually was a good shot, its just to bad that his extremely poor attitude was so over powering.
Hey, on a side not that Alex guy from Conifer, CO seems like a cool dude and is pretty darn good. Does anyone know him?
Driven people have been called crazy by the undriven since the beginning of time. This guy from a humble background has achieved more by age 25 than 99.9% of his critics.
After reading that interview 2 things are confirmed. It should be called "Unreality TV". Secondly if his intention was for the viewing audience not to forget him, he achieved that.
As Rush always says, "Highlight absurdity with absurdity".
The Holiday Inn Express experts are a joke.
hollohas
10-13-2011, 10:12
Here is a challenge for all the "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks.
Read this interview.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/867730-untitled
That's was certainly interesting...
Can you imagine that guy as a US Senator?
If you haven't read it yet, here are the basics. Jake is a science genius, he was shot in the hip in HS but was running the next day and the bullet is still in him, he got top rank recommendations to get into the Naval Academy even though he didn't even know what the Seals were, he picked the Navy because it had nicer buildings than the Army, he took 6 months to get his Seal qualification when most take 18, he was a Seal but gave that up, he made 6 figures but gave that up, he got a coaching job by just sitting on the sidelines during practice and following the coaches around, he is an artist, and he has
“the innate ability to do the impossible consistently”
Sounds about right.
I like the show for the only reason that I enjoy watching the competition with various weapon systems; I can appreciate what it take to pick up something, adapt, and compete. I have no desire to watch or be involved in drama; hate it actually.
I think Jake was a talented individual but lacked the capacity for sportsmanship ((conduct (as fairness, respect for one's opponent, and graciousness in winning or losing) becoming to one participating in sports.)) I don’t think a kill or be killed mentality is going to work in a competition like this. It is more of a gentleman's competition to see who is best.
Here is a challenge for all the "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks.
Read this interview.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/867730-untitled
Cliff's Notes?
I couldn't stand the guy. It really had nothing to do with the fact that he wanted to get rid of his biggest competition first. It's a competition with a large cash prize and I think the anyone who wants to get rid of the weakest first isn't playing the game right. It has nothing to do with chivalry or whatever they wanted to call it. Trying to eliminate your best competition first is being competitive, not being a coward. When you watch college football do you route for your rivals in other games hoping they will still be strong as can be when they face your team? Hell no! I kind of felt like they all teamed up against him for doing something that wasn't wrong and then kept coming at him for it. I didn't feel that was fair since it's a competition.
His attitude is what got me. The guy was just a prick. I hated to think he had kids and was teaching them some of his 'thoughts' on life. I just hope they are smart enough to know better and learn to NOT be like their father because he's the epitome of douchebaggery. George from last season was a saint compared to this jerk ass.
Driven people have been called crazy by the undriven since the beginning of time. This guy from a humble background has achieved more by age 25 than 99.9% of his critics.
After reading that interview 2 things are confirmed. It should be called "Unreality TV". Secondly if his intention was for the viewing audience not to forget him, he achieved that.
As Rush always says, "Highlight absurdity with absurdity".
The Holiday Inn Express experts are a joke.
So a guy who quit from a TV show and was cast in a negative light is trying to discredit the very source of his unhappiness? Doesn't sound like a very credible source.
Zundfolge
10-13-2011, 11:45
Cliff's Notes?
Yeah; All of us forum posting slugs are "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks, and as such none of us are as cool as Jake ('cause he spent 10 minutes as a SEEL) or TSOTSI (who's just "above it all"). :rolleyes:
Yeah; All of us forum posting slugs are "never done anything of consequence" armchair quarterbacks, and as such none of us are as cool as Jake ('cause he spent 10 minutes as a SEEL) or TSOTSI (who's just "above it all"). :rolleyes:
Glad I didn't read it. That sounds like Jake.
I hope this hurts his ego. But I watch it on HULU and I just skip over the talking and the drama and just watch the shooting. The only reason I knew he quit is because he wasn't there at the end and I had to go back to find out why. And that was my first impression of him. Maybe, it was a bad day but he quit instead of fighting it out. Doesn't sound all the tough to me. Anyone of us could have stuck around to the end and been his better. I really hate the ones the puss out early claiming mentral cramps or whatever. Why bother trying out if that is the way you are going to be.
Eh?
*snip* ...he quit instead of fighting it out. *snip*
Navy SEAL?
strm_trpr
10-13-2011, 13:02
I loved the fact that Jakes whole goal was to knock Mike out, he did so, and then he dropped out because the going got rough and then they brought mike back and gave him another chance which he won.
DeadElephant
10-13-2011, 14:17
Done things of some consequence. Done some TV.
TV was harder.
Navy SEAL?
G.I. Jane wouldn't have quit! She would have said "suck it!" And kept on competing.
Scanker19
10-13-2011, 14:37
I still like Jake better than the R Tard george from last season.
G.I. Jane wouldn't have quit! She would have said "suck it!" And kept on competing.
She woulda looked good doing it too.
trailgunner
10-13-2011, 15:23
My thoughts exactly. I assume there was some sarcasm in there.
That's was certainly interesting...
Can you imagine that guy as a US Senator?
If you haven't read it yet, here are the basics. Jake is a science genius, he was shot in the hip in HS but was running the next day and the bullet is still in him, he got top rank recommendations to get into the Naval Academy even though he didn't even know what the Seals were, he picked the Navy because it had nicer buildings than the Army, he took 6 months to get his Seal qualification when most take 18, he was a Seal but gave that up, he made 6 figures but gave that up, he got a coaching job by just sitting on the sidelines during practice and following the coaches around, he is an artist, and he has
Sounds about right.
The USNA graduates between 900-1000 per year. This year there were 973 of which 251 were women. 722 men. that is 0.0002311%of the population
The SEAL program takes in 1000 applicants including enlisted and graduates between 200-250. That is 0.00007711% of the pop. of that small number 15% are officers. That would be 0.000011567% of the population.
What have you lot who want to sit and criticize done?[ROFL1]
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.” -Teddy THE MAN Roosevelt
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What have you lot who want to sit and criticize done?[ROFL1]
Not quit.
CUatTheEnd
10-13-2011, 18:11
DVR'd it, just watched it, the right guy is back in the game. Big Mike is back!
stevelkinevil
10-13-2011, 18:21
DVR'd it, just watched it, the right guy is back in the game. Big Mike is back!
I disagree, if your out you should stay out. If someone quits because they cannot or will not face you then you should not be penalized for that persons punk out by bringing back someone whom was already eliminated. I think the other guy got shafted on that one. Just keep goin, either skip it and move along as it does not change the amount of contestants, or re-nominate the next closest guy. just my 2 cents, YMMV.
Zundfolge
10-13-2011, 19:04
What have you lot who want to sit and criticize done?[ROFL1]
So you're saying that if someone accomplishes something difficult once they can NEVER be criticized again?
Sorry that don't hold water ... the man pussed out, pure and simple. I don't care if he took out the Iraqi Republican Guard single handedly and cured cancer the following weekend ... after acting like a baby on several occasions he quit when he was going to have to face the music and THAT is pussy behavior.
Honestly of all the special ops guys I've known over the years (and I've known a handful), they would be quicker to call Jake a pussy than I did.
Hell, my dad did two tours of Viet Nam as Airborne ... if he saw me quit like that he'd give me **** for it for years (even if I had made it through SEAL school).
hunterhawk
10-13-2011, 20:14
that Jake guy was a d bag! I just got done watching the last episode on top shot who quits really.... pisses me off he was even there! glad to see they brought Mike back however i also kind of wish he would have just punched Jake in the face when they squared off a few episodes ago [ROFL2]
And he has a girl voice. There I said it.
blacklabel
10-13-2011, 20:36
glad to see they brought Mike back however i also kind of wish he would have just punched Jake in the face when they squared off a few episodes ago [ROFL2]
As contrived as the show is, I have to say I admire anyone that can show the restraint that Mike showed. I know I wouldn't have been able to resist.
So you're saying that if someone accomplishes something difficult once they can NEVER be criticized again?.
No. I am saying exactly the opposite. I am saying if someone has a bad day that is not the basis on which to judge them as a whole. Geddit? Imagine if everyone judged you as a person on your performance the first time you got laid and the retarded look on your face.
Sorry that don't hold water ... the man pussed out, pure and simple. I don't care if he took out the Iraqi Republican Guard single handedly and cured cancer the following weekend ... after acting like a baby on several occasions he quit when he was going to have to face the music and THAT is pussy behavior. .
Yeah yeah and you have never quit anything anywhere anytime, and on the weekends you do party tricks walking on water and healing the blind. Give me a break. Your sanctimonious hypocrisy conjures up images of Ted Haggard
Honestly of all the special ops guys I've known over the years (and I've known a handful), they would be quicker to call Jake a pussy than I did.
Hell, my dad did two tours of Viet Nam as Airborne ... if he saw me quit like that he'd give me **** for it for years (even if I had made it through SEAL school).
Ah the old cousin of "Guilt by association", "Credibility by association"
"I know Joe X and he can carry a dozen donuts on his dick so that qualifies me as a dick expert"
Yeah yeah and you have never quit anything anywhere anytime,
This isn't just some anything, anytime, or anywhere. He's not talking about him laying down a cross word puzzle or something.
I just can't believe attitude like his (at least part of edited footage we saw) can coach a NCAA.
I disagree, if your out you should stay out. If someone quits because they cannot or will not face you then you should not be penalized for that persons punk out by bringing back someone whom was already eliminated. I think the other guy got shafted on that one. Just keep goin, either skip it and move along as it does not change the amount of contestants, or re-nominate the next closest guy. just my 2 cents, YMMV.
I feel the same way. Should be win by default. Your competitor quit therefore he loses which means you win. Seems simple to me. Show would have had a pretty lame needing though and that's the whole reason for the protocol. To make more interesting TV.
Zundfolge
10-14-2011, 09:59
No. I am saying exactly the opposite. I am saying if someone has a bad day that is not the basis on which to judge them as a whole.
This wasn't simply a bad day, this was his own doing. His repeated actions show a much deeper character flaw than simply having a bad day. He deserves the derision I and others have given him.
Yeah yeah and you have never quit anything anywhere anytime, and on the weekends you do party tricks walking on water and healing the blind. Give me a break. Your sanctimonious hypocrisy conjures up images of Ted HaggardI have never quit a competition because I was afraid I'd lose. If I did I'd deserve to be called a pussy.
The only sanctimony here is from you bub.
Ah the old cousin of "Guilt by association", "Credibility by association"
"I know Joe X and he can carry a dozen donuts on his dick so that qualifies me as a dick expert"
Your argument seems to be that because I haven't walked a mile in Jake's shoes I am in no position to judge him. I simply point out that I know plenty of folk that HAVE walked that mile and that their opinion would be the same as mine.
But yeah, talking to you is starting to make me a dick expert.
This wasn't simply a bad day, this was his own doing. His repeated actions show a much deeper character flaw than simply having a bad day. He deserves the derision I and others have given him.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/518/holidayinnexpert.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/holidayinnexpert.jpg/)
I have never quit a competition because I was afraid I'd lose. If I did I'd deserve to be called a pussy.
I never said quit a competition. I said quit "anything". Read! Don't assume.
But what you have done here is admit you have quit for a reason.
The only sanctimony here is from you bub.
Undeniable truth of life #22. Critics hate it when they are criticized. You must be a waiter. Like to dish but hate being served
Your argument seems to be that because I haven't walked a mile in Jake's shoes I am in no position to judge him. I simply point out that I know plenty of folk that HAVE walked that mile and that their opinion would be the same as mine.
In court this is what a judge would rule as "hearsay". Inadmissible.
But yeah, talking to you is starting to make me a dick expert.
Ah yes once again we reach for the last tool in the box.
But yeah, talking to you is starting to make me a dick expert.
[ROFL2][ROFL2][ROFL3]
Twinscrewed05gt
10-14-2011, 16:21
Jake....so this is the kind of "soldier" the US gov is turning out these days huh? What a total joke and headcase the dude is. It's too bad guys like him even exist, to tarnish the unit he's associated with.
As good as a guy that Mike seems to be, I would find myself a little pissed if I was the other shooter that Jake DQ'd himself against. Jake quit, he lost, end of elimination imo. He earned the chance to go against Jake, not someone that had already been eliminated.
[ROFL2][ROFL2][ROFL3]
Never ceases to amaze how easy it is to amuse a simple mind.
Jake....so this is the kind of "soldier" the US gov is turning out these days huh? .
Any proud active or retired Navy here want to take this one? He probably thinks a corps-e-man is a serviceman who handles the fallen.
Any proud active or retired Navy here want to take this one? He probably thinks a corps-e-man is a serviceman who handles the fallen.
I think Jake while a fine shot was a bitch voice baby that is a poor example of a Navy Seal. I bet he quit that too.
Twinscrewed05gt
10-14-2011, 17:41
I think Jake while a fine shot was a bitch voice baby that is a poor example of a Navy Seal. I bet he quit that too.
You only quoted part of what I said.
Jake....so this is the kind of "soldier" the US gov is turning out these days huh? What a total joke and headcase the dude is. It's too bad guys like him even exist, to tarnish the unit he's associated with.
As good as a guy that Mike seems to be, I would find myself a little pissed if I was the other shooter that Jake DQ'd himself against. Jake quit, he lost, end of elimination imo. He earned the chance to go against Jake, not someone that had already been eliminated.
yeah, well put yourself in alex's position. you shot well enough to be safe from elimination, then suddenly you're back in the bottom three because jake leaves.
I think it was perfectly fair. jake left so the last person to get eliminated gets a reboot. phil fumbled the magazine and failed.
the only way I could see it being improved would be to bring back the player that jake eliminated, paul.
I think it ended well. the better shooter won the elimination, and jake can live life calming that he's the best in the universe, and lost because of the conspiring of the jealous and racist.
onedeadpirate
10-14-2011, 17:45
I have worked on plenty of unreality shows to know that they are making him look worse than he probably is. But that is what you get when you just up and quit a competition, TV or no TV.
You only quoted part of what I said.
I think you forgot to switch back to your other account. I didn't quote you at all. Not just part, but none of it.
DD977GM2
10-14-2011, 18:41
Any proud active or retired Navy here want to take this one? He probably thinks a corps-e-man is a serviceman who handles the fallen.
For a guy who made it to the Teams, he sure isnt a team player and is
easiy discouraged when things dont go his way
My swim buddy went onto become a member of SEAL Team 2 and so I have
first hand experience on the team player attitude etc.
Jake is a disgrace to the U.S. Navy and a pansy.
Gotta chime in with the rest of you guys. I've watched every episode since Season 1 and I've been savoring Jake's demise from th eshow more than anybody else's!
Punk A$$ B!tch
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Jake....so this is the kind of "soldier" the US gov is turning out these days huh? .
Any proud active or retired Navy here want to take this one? He probably thinks a corps-e-man is a serviceman who handles the fallen.
Okay I'll do it. The Navy doesn't have soldiers. The Army has soldiers.
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