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mcantar18c
10-12-2011, 13:19
PRK governor vetoed a bill requiring police to obtain a warrant to search your phone.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/warrantless-phone-searches/

California Gov. Jerry Brown is vetoing legislation requiring police to obtain a court warrant to search the mobile phones of suspects at the time of any arrest.

The Sunday veto means that when police arrest anybody in the Golden State, they may search that person’s mobile phone


Warning: If this turns into a cop bashing thread, it will be closed. This is bad legislation, not bad law enforcement.

Elhuero
10-12-2011, 13:36
sorry to burst your bubble, but enforcing bad laws is bad law enforcement.

mcantar18c
10-12-2011, 13:49
sorry to burst your bubble, but enforcing bad laws is bad law enforcement.

As I've already said, this article is NOT about the enforcement of anything. Its about the legislation allowing it.
Dig up an article about a cop searching somebody's phone under this law, post it and bitch about it there.

SuperiorDG
10-12-2011, 13:52
“Restricting the authority of a peace officer to search an arrestee unduly restricts their ability to apply the law, fight crime, discover evidence valuable to an investigation and protect the citizens of California (http://www.privacylives.com/cnn-california-bill-would-ban-warrantless-cell-phone-searches/2011/09/23/),” the association said in a message.

If they want to make it easier to fight crime then give them the right to search everything they own, houses, computers, cars, etc. Oh, that be contrary to the forth amendment.

Zundfolge
10-12-2011, 14:26
Anyone know if one can simply password protect your phone?

jhood001
10-12-2011, 14:31
Anyone know if one can simply password protect your phone?

It is my understanding that they don't directly access the phone through it's interface. I believe they have docking mechanisms that work with pretty much every 'smart' phone there is. I read an article about it a while back. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Zundfolge
10-12-2011, 14:34
So what about completely encrypting your phone then?

(thankfully I just have a "dumb" phone).

mcantar18c
10-12-2011, 14:38
Anyone know if one can simply password protect your phone?

You could, but it wouldn't do any good.
It would work if they were trying to access your phone through its interface to look through it, but they don't do that. They download the info from your phone with these:

http://www.warriortalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14786&d=1303348352


As for encrypting it... not sure on that. You'd need to be smart enough to **** around with the phone's OS.

jhood001
10-12-2011, 14:39
So what about completely encrypting your phone then?

(thankfully I just have a "dumb" phone).

Found this -

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-05/tech/search.warrant.phone.gahran_1_cell-phone-text-message-drug-deal?_s=PM:TECH



What if access to your phone is locked with a security code or pattern?

According to Catherine Crump of the American Civil Liberties Union, "The police can ask you to unlock the phone -- which many people will do -- but they almost certainly cannot compel you to unlock your phone without the involvement of a judge," she said. Also, she noted that so far it's legally unresolved whether police can copy data from an arrestee's phone for future examination.


And this is the link to that device (UFED) I was talking about:

http://translogic.aolautos.com/2011/04/29/police-device-used-to-steal-your-cell-phone-data-during-traffic/

Ronin13
10-12-2011, 16:26
It is my understanding that they don't directly access the phone through it's interface. I believe they have docking mechanisms that work with pretty much every 'smart' phone there is. I read an article about it a while back. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I had access to one- while I was in Intel in the Army. We used to to access terrorists and insurgents devices to find any evidence or useful intel. It was pretty neat, but scary because some time later the programming came out so we could read all texts in English when they were using Pashtu and Farsi.