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BPTactical
10-14-2011, 05:57
Hickeyloopy issues Executive Order closing Veterans Park indefinitely puts the boot in the keester to the "Occupy Denver" campout.
I didn't think he had the Huevos, afterall most of them were more than likely "D" and his "Rock Star" buddy Van Jones has been a "organizer" for this entire movement. Gutsy move that is sure to piss off his big "D" handlers.
Of course we all know he wouldn't have without substantial pressure but none the less.........
i wonder how long its gonna take other city's to do the same
I am surprised that the looper did this. I'm listening live on Boyles show.
Where does their right to protest end and my right to use the park if I so desire start?
A public space must remain public, it isn't public if someone is camping out there, it becomes private to that structure.
The protesters are also blocking Broadway, a public thoroughfare. They are not allowed to impede the movement of other folks.
Protesters are fighting with the police. I hope the cops knock some heads.
Typical liberal behavior, rights are for liberals but not for anyone else. The liberals treat the 1st amendment the same way when they shout down conservative speakers.
Protesters are fighting with the police.
where ? here ? was just reading that they postponed the eviction in nyc
where ? here ? was just reading that they postponed the eviction in nyc
Yup, here down on Broadway.
never mind i just found this
In Denver, dozens of police in riot gear pushed Wall Street protesters into retreat outside the state Capitol, and the protesters are retreating without resisting, the AP reported. Many of the protesters chanted “Peaceful!” as they backed away from their encampment early Friday.
Officers were placing plastic handcuffs on some protesters. Authorities began taking down dozens of tents at around 3:30 a.m. At about 6:30 a.m., officers in helmets and carrying batons advanced on the a line of protesters who had locked arms around the
tents, including a makeshift kitchen.
Back in New York, one protester was injured by a police motorcycle. The extent of the injuries was immediately clear.
Protester Greg Disney told ABC News: ”We came here from DC on a bus at 4 am because we thought they were gonna thrown out. What happens here is the catalyst for all the actions everywhere around the country. This is a boost.”
Disney added: “I think tomorrow will say a lot. There’s a day of rage planned and I’m sure it’ll be pretty awesome.”
so now people are going to nyc just to look for a fight ? i dont see this working out well for the protesters
BPTactical
10-14-2011, 07:10
Yup, looks like nationally the PTB have had enough of the whiners.
Shucks-looks like they gotta go do something productive now.................
Funny how the AP report doesn't mention protesters getting in the faces of the police, I heard them loud but not very clear on the radio.
The AP also failed to mention the blocking of a public street thus impeding the movement of citizens other than the protesters.
Now the protesters have run back onto Broadway preventing other citizens from using a public right of way.
Now the police will arrest everyone impeding a public right of way. Good.
Now the protesters have run back onto Broadway preventing other citizens from using a public right of way.
Now the police will arrest everyone impeding a public right of way. Good.
was just looking at the face book and apparently they are making a move to end it in b-more and philly as well . wonder if they have had it in calli .........[ROFL1] . its about time they shut that silliness down . i still cant believe that many people protested for 4 weeks without a list of demands or a clear direction of any kind .
Yes, it is happening in Los Angeles.
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/13/more-anti-semitism-at-occupy-los-angeles/
Michelle Malkin covers some of it.
http://michellemalkin.com/
BPTactical
10-14-2011, 07:41
[ROFL1]
Fox 31 was just interviewing a protester and he said: "it's my 4th Amendment right to stand here and peacefully protest"
FAIL![ROFL2][ROFL2]
Thank God I was not swigging my morning Pepsi[Pepsi] Would have been a bad deal.............
BPTactical
10-14-2011, 07:45
Yes, it is happening in Los Angeles.
Gee, does that mean its a "Movement"?
[ROFL1]
Fox 31 was just interviewing a protester and he said: "it's my 4th Amendment right to stand here and peacefully protest"
FAIL![ROFL2][ROFL2]
Thank God I was not swigging my morning Pepsi[Pepsi] Would have been a bad deal.............
What an idiot. Probably drives a Prius with an Obama 2012 sticker on it.
"Movement"[ROFL1] you said movement
sorry had a bit of a bivis and butthead moment
[ROFL1] you said movement
sorry had a bit of a bivis and butthead moment
heh-heh-hehehehe
TDYRanger
10-14-2011, 08:15
So just a thought: when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest. The cause does not determine the right to do it. If we (gun owners) had a protest because they (the powers that be) wanted to shred brass and jack the price of ammo through the roof; they would be calling us a bunch of right wing nut jobs.
I don't care about their cause one way or another. I will add this if you don't think Wall Street has gutted this country with their greed then you are living on Pluto. [Rant1]
We need to wake up and understand that Dem and Rep are myths. It is white noise to keep us fighting one another while both sides rob, steal, pillage our country and suck the marrow from our bones. Screw em all [M2]
So we've seen the manifesto from the Wall Street group, where is the manifesto from the Denver group?
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 08:30
I was supposed to have had a job interview downtown this morning that was postponed.
I wonder if I can sue because my 6th Amendment rights were violated by Occupy Denver?
[ROFL1]
No, Seriously though, Kinda friggin' pissed
Delfuego
10-14-2011, 08:34
when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest. The cause does not determine the right to do it.Well put!
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 08:34
So just a thought: when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest. The cause does not determine the right to do it. If we (gun owners) had a protest because they (the powers that be) wanted to shred brass and jack the price of ammo through the roof; they would be calling us a bunch of right wing nut jobs.
I don't care about their cause one way or another. I will add this if you don't think Wall Street has gutted this country with their greed then you are living on Pluto. [Rant1]
We need to wake up and understand that Dem and Rep are myths. It is white noise to keep us fighting one another while both sides rob, steal, pillage our country and suck the marrow from our bones. Screw em all [M2]
Umm, They got permits and didn't camp overnight for weeks on end?
and yes, I agree that there is allot of corruption at the top... and it needs to end, But I don't believe that camping in your own fecal matter will help.
I don't care about their cause one way or another. I will add this if you don't think Wall Street has gutted this country with their greed then you are living on Pluto. [Rant1]
Wall Street is not entirely at fault. The Federal Government had an enormous role using our tax dollars. This is what happens when a private national bank (Federal Reserve) gets in bed with the Federal Government.
BPTactical
10-14-2011, 08:54
So just a thought: when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest. The cause does not determine the right to do it. If we (gun owners) had a protest because they (the powers that be) wanted to shred brass and jack the price of ammo through the roof; they would be calling us a bunch of right wing nut jobs.
I don't care about their cause one way or another. I will add this if you don't think Wall Street has gutted this country with their greed then you are living on Pluto. [Rant1]
Apples to Oranges Ranger, as Byte noted all the TP rallies were lawfully permitted and they had been planned and had consulted with official entities. They also had a clear and concise message.
Total contrast to what equates to disorganized squatters.
We all have the right to voice disapproval, but the way you present it speaks volumes and either discounts or adds credibility to ones cause.
You want to see a good illustration in contrast? Look at the photos of the Washington Monument and WWII Veterans Monument in DC after Beck's "Restore Courage" rally last year.
Then look at photos of the same places after the gathering that was led by Al Sharpton and crew shortly thereafter.
I will agree that Wall Street and Corporate greed have devastated our country and economy but the REAL problem lies with the policies and tax structure that allow the above mentioned to run rampant, encourage outsourcing and operate with impunity.
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 09:02
I was at one of the bigger Tea Party rallies about 2 years ago. No streets were blocked, no tents were staked, there were no arrests, we cleaned up the area ourselves and left it cleaner than before we were there.
Zundfolge
10-14-2011, 09:04
So just a thought: when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest.
The Tea Parties got permits, paid for insurance and security, left when the permitted time was up and were polite to the police and cleaned up their mess.
We need to wake up and understand that Dem and Rep are myths. It is white noise to keep us fighting one another while both sides rob, steal, pillage our country and suck the marrow from our bones.
More and more I'm convinced that the "there ain't no difference between the two parties" line is a myth designed to make us apathetic and stop pushing for positive political change. Just shut up and eat our peas.
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 09:10
More and more I'm convinced that the "there ain't no difference between the two parties" line is a myth designed to make us apathetic and stop pushing for positive political change. Just shut up and eat our peas.
thieves and crooks, both lots.
the only difference is the lie they tell
They aren't public servants, they are self servant. Neither party has had the public interest at heart for a very long time.
When the parties lost focus and put their own survival and benefit above that of the people the failed to realize that, only by placing the well being of the people above their own would their survival be assured.
So we've seen the manifesto from the Wall Street group, where is the manifesto from the Denver group?
No, you haven't seen a manifesto from any of these "Groups", because they aren't that coherent. There have been a lot of individuals calling for a wide variety of things... quite a few of those things being full on retard. Not all of it, though.
One of the more interesting bits of this is watching how it evolves over time. Starting to see internet-scale speed meeting meatspace reality. Should be interesting.
And as for civil disobedience, it has it's place and time. If they want to make their stand now, I'm not going to criticize them for standing up for what they believe... even if they haven't quite decided that part.
H.
Does anyone else feel that there are unseen puppeteers whipping up a maelstrom of discontent here to distract us from another agenda? Or perhaps they are just winding up the spring to turn it loose for more hopey-changey crap in the coming election cycle? Unfocused frustration and anger often expresses itself in unpredictable and unforeseen ways.
As an aside, if the idiots that are protesting for the sake of protesting put half as much energy into finding and keeping productive jobs as they do into whining about their lot in life, they would probably find that their lot in life didn't suck nearly as much.
Short version: Suck it up, put on your big girl panties, and DO something with your lives. Those of us that work for a living and live within our means are sick and tired of listening to you halfwits whine about how you've run up a quarter million dollars in debt to spend 8 years to get an associate degree in neoclassical art appreciation. Get a friggin job already...
/friday morning caffeine deprived rant
BPTactical
10-14-2011, 09:48
1-Does anyone else feel that there are unseen puppeteers whipping up a maelstrom of discontent here to distract us from another agenda? Or perhaps they are just winding up the spring to turn it loose for more hopey-changey crap in the coming election cycle? Unfocused frustration and anger often expresses itself in unpredictable and unforeseen ways.
2-As an aside, if the idiots that are protesting for the sake of protesting put half as much energy into finding and keeping productive jobs as they do into whining about their lot in life, they would probably find that their lot in life didn't suck nearly as much.
2A-Short version: Suck it up, put on your big girl panties, and DO something with your lives. Those of us that work for a living and live within our means are sick and tired of listening to you halfwits whine about how you've run up a quarter million dollars in debt to spend 8 years to get an associate degree in neoclassical art appreciation. Get a friggin job already...
/friday morning caffeine deprived rant
1- My thoughts as well, it doesnt take a whole lot of connect the dots to figure out that Left leaning organizations are stoking the fires-Moveon.org, SEIU, .gov etc to the "Occupy" movement. What is interesting is the fact that the decision to put the Kabosh on this was fairly universal across the board. Makes me think as the message and impetus of the "Occupy" crowd started to tangent more from Wall St to a Pennsylvania Ave gripe that those in certain high places saw this starting to work against them and a universal foot was put down.
2 and 2A- H Caine put it best- "If you dont have a job and your not a millionaire, don't blame Wall Street or the banks, blame yourself"
Africkinmen!
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 09:57
Short version: Suck it up, put on your big girl panties, and DO something with your lives. Those of us that work for a living and live within our means are sick and tired of listening to you halfwits whine about how you've run up a quarter million dollars in debt to spend 8 years to get an associate degree in neoclassical art appreciation. Get a friggin job already...
Barista at Starbucks?
[ROFL1]
BEELZEBOB
10-14-2011, 09:59
Anyone see the new last night when reporters asked the morons what they were protesting?
None of them know?
One dreadlocked lice hotel said and i quote "I dont even know why were here"
Zundfolge
10-14-2011, 10:02
Barista at Starbucks?
[ROFL1]
Hey, at least its honest work. I have 100 times more respect for someone that takes a "McJob" over someone that sucks off the system and bitches about how precious they are.
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 10:08
Hey, at least its honest work. I have 100 times more respect for someone that takes a "McJob" over someone that sucks off the system and bitches about how precious they are.
Oh Absolutely, Just ribbing about how some of them take their jobs far too seriously.
"no dewd, I dont make coffee... I am a Barista!"
Xi9BRgjvOlk
i dont think you guys understand we need to open the borders , make gay mirage legal , take away guns ,legalize drugs, smash the corporate machine and wipe my student loans away , yes i got my doctorate in fine art theory specializing in the painting of frog toenails . i wonder why i cant find a job but the only place i look is on facebook in between video games and oprah .
if you believe that i got a bridge to sell you
Zundfolge
10-14-2011, 10:13
Ah, classic Foamy ... those where the days.
No, you haven't seen a manifesto from any of these "Groups", because they aren't that coherent. There have been a lot of individuals calling for a wide variety of things... quite a few of those things being full on retard. Not all of it, though.
One of the more interesting bits of this is watching how it evolves over time. Starting to see internet-scale speed meeting meatspace reality. Should be interesting.
And as for civil disobedience, it has it's place and time. If they want to make their stand now, I'm not going to criticize them for standing up for what they believe... even if they haven't quite decided that part.
H.
I saw a manifesto from the Wall Street mob:
From Weasel Zippers
Originally posted by Weasel Zippers:
Occupy Wall Street Protesters Post Manifesto Of 13 “Demands”…
Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.
Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.
Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
Demand four: Free college education.
Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.
Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.
Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.
Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.
Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.
Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.
Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/03/occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifesto-of-13-demands/
Denver was incoherent, even Boyles couldn't get a straight answer.
Certainly time will tell if this gets any traction with the middle class, or if the Tea Party grows more within the middle class or if the middle class goes back to watching American Idiots Dancing while being Losers.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 10:26
So just a thought: when the Tea Party holds its rallies and basically closes all of that downtown area around civic center park no one here is griping about Right wing entitled behavior. Either you can protest or you can't protest. The cause does not determine the right to do it. If we (gun owners) had a protest because they (the powers that be) wanted to shred brass and jack the price of ammo through the roof; they would be calling us a bunch of right wing nut jobs.
I don't care about their cause one way or another. I will add this if you don't think Wall Street has gutted this country with their greed then you are living on Pluto. [Rant1]
We need to wake up and understand that Dem and Rep are myths. It is white noise to keep us fighting one another while both sides rob, steal, pillage our country and suck the marrow from our bones. Screw em all [M2]
+1
I saw a manifesto from the Wall Street mob:
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/10/03/occupy-wall-street-protesters-post-manifesto-of-13-demands/
Denver was incoherent, even Boyles couldn't get a straight answer.
Certainly time will tell if this gets any traction with the middle class, or if the Tea Party grows more within the middle class or if the middle class goes back to watching American Idiots Dancing while being Losers.
Uh what? Click that link, then clink the Washington Times link at the bottom (the source), then either read that page or the one it links to as it's source, here:
http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occupy-wall-street-official-demands-2009
These lists are VASTLY DIFFERENT. I'll be interested in knowing what you think of the second list, because the one you posted is chock full of crazy, and the one I'm linking to seems measured and mostly reasonable list of things that should have been done to curtail the abuses we saw from the Financial sector in '08-09.
H.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 10:50
I'm not sure why a group of disorganized, pissed off people have to have a "list" to be taken seriously by you people. They are disorganized. They are pissed off.
It's not some financially and politically backed group like the Tea Party, it's a bunch of people who know the government and the financial system of this country has ****ed 99% of us and they're so mad they are showing it.
As if the Tea Party demands of "impeach Obama and send him back to Africa" was any less crazy.
Official Demands.
1. I need to research Glass-Steagall before I comment.
2. Needs to include Congressional Criminals that forced the CRA on the banks in the first place. Also needs to include Presidents Bush and Obama and their staff that were involved with the frauds called TARP, Quantitative Easing I and II. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be indicted as well and they forgot to include anyone involved with the Federal Reserve including Herman Cain.
3. I don't see unions mentioned here, as long as unions can contribute corporations should be allowed to contribute as well.
4. Fair Share Tax Crap - the top 5% already pay the vast majority of income taxes. The bottom 50% of wage earners contribute almost nothing to the Federal Budget.
5. Define professionals, is a professional a liberal arts major whose first question at work is "Do you want fries with that" or is the professional student and proponent of Marx or is the professional a student and proponent of Adam Smith and Milton Friedman.
6. I'm for that. I've long wanted lobbyists out of the system.
7. I'm for that based on conflict of interest.
8. I'll have to research the 14th amendment some more.
There is more stuff there than I have time to read right now. I did a scan and they want the Federal Government to take over the Federal Reserve, that won't change a thing. The Federal Governement is at the heart of all our problems.
Healthcare is not a right.
I'd like to see the War on Drugs ended.
I'd like the see the government completely out of the education system.
I am for the Death Penalty, we just need to eliminate the ridiculous appeals process and swiftly execute the sentence once the sentence is handed down.
I scanned it some more
There is 9/11 truther BS in there. HAHAHA, anyone who thinks 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government is a phvkking moron and I'll tell them right to their phvkking face, if I know and like the person I'll just smile, nodd and walk away.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 11:26
I find it pretty sad to see someone say that one protest is right and another is wrong, regardless of how they're done.
The very fact that a group of people needs something like a permit, insurance, security or anything else in order to demonstrate, just illustrates a broader problem we have in this country.
And bitching about them delaying your morning commute? I doubt anyone here would bitch if a family of Elk camped out in the middle of the road when you were trying to get somewhere. Same as if some pro-gun, or pro anything else that you agree with slowed you up a little in the morning.
The word gets out that some liberals are giving these people a nod, and the whole lot of them fall into the 'bad' category for some of you.
As it has been said, their message is unclear and convoluted, but they're out there doing something... And they aren't being shot, gassed, rounded up and being thrown in train cars, etc. This is good for all of us in my opinion and something we should remember to be thankful for.
Things like this, regardless of the cause, puts the powers that be back on edge a little and causes them to think about the consequences of the circus they're running.
With that said, if any of those clowns are breaking any serious laws, I hope they get their skulls cracked and locked up.
And bitching about them delaying your morning commute? I doubt anyone here would bitch if a family of Elk camped out in the middle of the road when you were trying to get somewhere. Same as if some pro-gun, or pro anything else that you agree with slowed you up a little in the morning.
What part of infringing on the rights of others don't you understand? Oh that's right, when its your protest everyone else can suck it, typical liberal slant.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 11:59
What part of infringing on the rights of others don't you understand? Oh that's right, when its your protest everyone else can suck it, typical liberal slant.
I'm not sure how that statement qualifies as 'liberal slant', nor would I call what is going on 'my protest'.
I'll be downtown sometimes on a game day and I find that traffic is impeded by people going to see the game. I'm not a big baseball or football fan, but the last thing that enters my mind when the light turns green and there is still a steady stream of fans crossing the street is that my rights are being infringed.
Nor do I feel that my rights are being infringed when I go somewhere and I can't get in because it is crowded.
I'm merely saying that being inconvenienced is generally just an inconvenience to most of us unless we can find something within it that we don't agree with. Then we scramble to the 'infringed rights' argument.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 12:04
What part of infringing on the rights of others don't you understand? Oh that's right, when its your protest everyone else can suck it, typical liberal slant.
You're just proving the point that Tea Party gets a pass but Occupy Wall St. doesn't.
Bailey Guns
10-14-2011, 12:27
I'd explain it to a couple of you but I wouldn't be able to understand it for you. So I'll pass on even making an attempt.
You're logic is incredibly and obviously flawed. Reality must be a strange place for a couple of you guys.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 12:28
I'd explain it to a couple of you but I wouldn't be able to understand it for you. So I'll pass on even making an attempt.
Sense this does not make.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 12:31
Sense this does not make.
Actually, it does and it is pretty damn funny.
He can do the explaining for someone, but he can't do the understanding on their behalf for them.
Bailey Guns
10-14-2011, 12:32
Sense this does not make.
Go figure. You don't get it. Color me surprised.
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 12:34
And bitching about them delaying your morning commute?
I got a call about my Job interview that was postponed due to the Occupy Denver protests...
"Due to local civil unrest we have decided to relocate the position to our Dallas Fort Worth offices."
[Bang]
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 12:35
Actually, it does and it is pretty damn funny.
He can do the explaining for someone, but he can't do the understanding on their behalf for them.
Go figure. You don't get it. Color me surprised.
Oh okay. I get it now! You have no idea what you're talking about, so you're not going to attempt so you can save face.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 12:35
I got a call about my Job interview that was postponed due to the Occupy Denver protests...
"Due to local civil unrest we have decided to relocate the position to our Dallas Fort Worth offices."
[Bang]
Yeah right.
Bailey Guns
10-14-2011, 12:37
Oh okay. I get it now! You have no idea what you're talking about, so you're not going to attempt so you can save face.
Go figure. You don't get it. Color me surprised.
It's deja vu all over again.
The Tea Party was financially backed and politically backed? News to me.
I know why lickingpooper did this... he didn't want to look at them from his window. Its that simple.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 12:49
I got a call about my Job interview that was postponed due to the Occupy Denver protests...
"Due to local civil unrest we have decided to relocate the position to our Dallas Fort Worth offices."
[Bang]
Sorry to hear that.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 12:52
The Tea Party was financially backed and politically backed? News to me.
Big time. And I don't think it will be long before some big-ish interests figure out how to use this movement to their advantage and start funding it as well.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 13:44
The Tea Party was financially backed and politically backed? News to me.
I know why lickingpooper did this... he didn't want to look at them from his window. Its that simple.
http://www.examiner.com/political-issues-in-modesto/tea-party-members-are-koch-suckers
I love posting that, because the Examiner gets thrown around a lot here.
I'm not sure how that statement qualifies as 'liberal slant', nor would I call what is going on 'my protest'.
I'll be downtown sometimes on a game day and I find that traffic is impeded by people going to see the game. I'm not a big baseball or football fan, but the last thing that enters my mind when the light turns green and there is still a steady stream of fans crossing the street is that my rights are being infringed.
Nor do I feel that my rights are being infringed when I go somewhere and I can't get in because it is crowded.
I'm merely saying that being inconvenienced is generally just an inconvenience to most of us unless we can find something within it that we don't agree with. Then we scramble to the 'infringed rights' argument.
Apples and oranges.
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 13:53
Apples and oranges.
Care to elaborate?
Is it because you like baseball and government corruption?
jhood001
10-14-2011, 13:56
Apples and oranges.
This dismissal statement doesn't explain much.
You could be agreeing with me now because while both are quite different, they're also both fruit.
You could still be agreeing with me because you like one and not the other and your like or dislike is the only thing that divides the two in your mind.
Kidding aside, do explain the differences as you see them. I'm capable of changing my mind on a lot things, but a vague dismissal statement isn't enough to get me there.
Do explain!
http://www.examiner.com/political-issues-in-modesto/tea-party-members-are-koch-suckers
I love posting that, because the Examiner gets thrown around a lot here.
Got this far and new it wasn't on the level.
It is sad that bigots and selfish, ignorant citizens are manipulated by the Kochs who have no interest whatsoever in making America a better place to live. The Kochs (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CB0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftheweek.com%2Farticle%2Findex%2F2 06405%2Fthe-billionaire-koch-brothers-tea-party-puppetmasters&ei=GTC-TLjbAYaosAPt2eGSDQ&usg=AFQjCNHehBZxccIWsMHD0EhqMeiyrPH4cw) are only concerned with promoting candidates who will do their bidding and cede control of the government over to the oil industry.
If that is what you think the tea parties were all about. Then you have drank to much Obama Kool-Aid and I am not going to subscribe to the same warped sense of reality that you do.
A tip for yellow journalists and d bag bloggers like him. Don't call people names that only harden the nipples of the opposition. If credibility is important to you I mean?
DeusExMachina
10-14-2011, 14:20
By far that is not the only source regarding the Kochs behind the Tea Party.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 14:22
By far that is not the only source regarding the Kochs behind the Tea Party.
No it certainly isn't. So why did you use it? I saw the URL 'tea-party-members-are-koch-suckers' and thought 'Uh oh'.
*And I wouldn't say they're behind it, but they have definitely pumped a great deal of money into it once it was embraced by the Republican main-stream.
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 14:43
So who do you think is backing the Occupyers? The unions, Move-On.org, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Osucka, Joe Bite-me and every other far left organization- because the occupyers are ALL Democrats. Also, as far as Deus' claim that the Tea Party got a pass- Tea Party members have been labeled rascists by the administration from the start. That's not getting a pass in my book.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 15:04
So who do you think is backing the Occupyers? The unions, Move-On.org, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Osucka, Joe Bite-me and every other far left organization- because the occupyers are ALL Democrats. Also, as far as Deus' claim that the Tea Party got a pass- Tea Party members have been labeled rascists by the administration from the start. That's not getting a pass in my book.
It isn't getting a pass in mine, either. It is just attack garbage.
I'm going to disagree on your 'ALL Democrats' generalization though. Majority? Yes, I think so.
As far as them being 'backed', I haven't seen any quotes by any of those people you mentioned that displayed full support for them. And I'm starting to see more and more on the right offering some words of sympathy for them as it takes up more and more attention in the public eye.
Right now, the politicians on both sides are eyeing this thing along with their strategists in order to figure out how they can gain from it. I think the lines will be better drawn once the 'movement' gets a little more organized and that is when the full left v. right division will occur and the financial backing will start coming in.
It is a shame that the thing became political at all. But anymore... what isn't?
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 15:13
I'll qualify my statement regarding them all being Dems. I'll bet you that EVERY ONE THAT IS A REGISTERED VOTER... is a Democrat. Many of the rest are anarchists, the balance being people just looking for a free meal or anything else they can get for free. Maybe I should just use their term- 99%ers
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 15:17
You're qualifying your statement by using the word "full" with regards to quotes from our great leaders showing support. I have seen Nancy Pelosi saying she "loves" them, that's pretty supportive. Biden as well but of course not using those words. It probably is not the time for the admin to "fully" support the Occupyers. The unions are busing people in to the New York and Boston occupations, as well as supplying food and signage.
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2011, 15:31
I am pleasantly surprised at Hickenlooper. Good for him.
I still think the best thing they could do is go through the crowd non-confrontationally, get IDs fine them for each day in violation. Oh yeah, and put up security cameras around the park -- to ensure their safety of course -- and stream the output to an open site where everyone else can mock the morons in the parks.
Public ridicule instead of letting them make a scene, cumulative financial fines for breaking the law ... it'd be rich.
jhood001
10-14-2011, 15:43
I'll qualify my statement regarding them all being Dems. I'll bet you that EVERY ONE THAT IS A REGISTERED VOTER... is a Democrat. Many of the rest are anarchists, the balance being people just looking for a free meal or anything else they can get for free. Maybe I should just use their term- 99%ers
You're qualifying your statement with... a bet? I'll take that bet if it causes you to somehow find a way to prove what can't be definitively proven.
Honestly, I wish it could be proven because it would make it alot easier for me to write them all off... and not because they're Democrats, but because they're claiming an issue that should be relevant to all of us as their own and making a political game out of it.
I've seen the Pelosi 'love them' quote and her 'God bless them' quote. And I'm starting to see some supportive (or at the least 'understanding') comments from Cain, Romney, Roemer, Paul and a few others.
And yeah, the unions busing people in is bunk, but that is how they've always rolled. They smell a little blood and throw everything they have behind it... well before they know whether or not what is bleeding is a family member, or something they actually want to eat. Nothing new there.
I don't care who supports the movement for true Wall Street and financial reform as long as that it what it is really about, but I will agree that this movement is in the process of being hijacked predominantly by the lefties at this point which is just a damn shame.
But just like I think it is irresponsible to label all tea-partiers as racists and bigots, I think it is also counter-productive to label this Occupy movement as a bunch of lefty, union loving, hand-out wanting hippies and dismissing the entire effort because of it.
Just my opinion.
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 15:49
Your opinion is as good as mine[Beer]. However, I think your last sentence describes the Occupy movement perfectly. Their "manifesto", as shown earlier in this thread "proves" it to me anyway. It's ALL about freebies. No- of course I am unable to provide facts to back my claim as to the percentage of Dems- just my opinion!!
Your opinion is as good as mine[Beer]. However, I think your last sentence describes the Occupy movement perfectly. Their "manifesto", as shown earlier in this thread "proves" it to me anyway. It's ALL about freebies. No- of course I am unable to provide facts to back my claim as to the percentage of Dems- just my opinion!!
Which manifesto, the one some random person in a forum posted as a comment? Or the one that (apparently) is being actually pushed by #OWS?
H.
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 17:05
Post #37. I have already heard some of these on various news shows, but had not seen them all together until I read that post. It's all about freebies: Debt forgiveness, guaranteed income, free college education, various "rights" not actually in the Constitution, etc, etc.
Post #37. I have already heard some of these on various news shows, but had not seen them all together until I read that post. It's all about freebies: Debt forgiveness, guaranteed income, free college education, various "rights" not actually in the Constitution, etc, etc.
All very leftist demands too. Stuff that won't work even by force... forget about if left on its own merits. Like: end energy from oil and go to a green source that doesn't work and isn't cost effective.
Free college.
Stuff like this is what brought down Greece and made the UK look like a bunch of wankers.
Byte Stryke
10-14-2011, 18:23
Yeah right.
they are located at 16th and court.
you wouldn't believe me if I propped the HR rep up in front of you at this point, so whatever.
*sigh* liberals. of course, the liberals in charge encourage this stuff when a conservative is in office, or against conversatives and the free market. but when they show up protesting liberals in charge, or the big government, then the liberals in charge get all agitated. i wonder when theyll realize they helped create the monster.
at any rate, if i was governor, id walk out there with my mega phone and qoute the entire scene from big lebowski in lebowski's office. "the bums lost! condolensences! my advice to you is to do what your parents did, get a job sir!" so lets see, we want free education, free healthcare, free food, a guaranteed job that you can never lose, what else?
i think its about high time i buy some property in the mountains, pay it off in cash, and start growing my own crops.
sneakerd
10-14-2011, 20:11
Frak that. You get your own land in Virginia. The Shenandoah Valley. Breadbasket of the south. Won't have to dig thru the rocks, fertile soil all around.
Some people like to complain just to hear themselves talk.
I'm glad that people in here had some points that differed from the mainstream (mainstream for this site anyway) because I was having similar thoughts.
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