I saw this and it pissed me off.

[robsterclaw]

I didn't see another post about this site, so sorry if it's a repeat. Here's an NRA sponsered site that has some video clips of the gun confiscation that happened in N O LA.
Of coarse this couldn't really happen because all the antigun nut's say they aren't really trying to take away law abiding citizens right to own guns.

http://www.givethemback.com/

[2ndChildhood]

Pissed me off too.

[robsterclaw]

Thinking about it since I posted this, I wonder what them liberal LA. politicians, and gun confiscaters would have done with people who have guns like those of us that have the Uzi's AR15's AK47's, and the like. They went bat shit over people who just had a little .38 six shooter, and people who just had hunting rifles. I'll bet the media would have been more likely to show them confiscating these kind of guns, then just normal type guns.

[KarlPMann]

Well, I'm just amazed that no cops were shot. I honestly can't believe not a single one of those gun owners had the conviction of their beliefs to say no. :roll: As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve the right to own them. :cry: Karl.

[trv1911]

I have thought alot about this.

I have always believed that the 2nd Ammendment is in place to protect us from a tyranical totalanarian government.

It sound like Science fiction, or Paranoia. Maybe it is. Bt this is an example of what can quickly happen. Wonder if it was taken further. And larger. How quickly would the United States become 100% sumbisive to an complete power Gov't. And how long after that do the Free People of the State become nothing but worthless subjects owned nby the State.

We have beware of enemys Foriegn and Domestic.
That includes our own Government.

The 2nd Ammendment covers our freedom. Period.
And people NEED to own firearms.
Not Mausers, .22lr's , and deer guns...
But AR's and AK's and 50BMG
to insure our freedom.


The words MOLON LABE are not just a catchy saying



-TRAVIS

[robsterclaw]

I have thought alot about this.



It sound like Science fiction, or Paranoia. Maybe it is. Bt this is an example of what can quickly happen. Wonder if it was taken further. And larger. How quickly would the United States become 100% sumbisive to an complete power Gov't. And how long after that do the Free People of the State become nothing but worthless subjects owned nby the State.





The words MOLON LABE are not just a catchy saying



-TRAVIS

You're right. It's not science fiction. I'm a member of other forums, and through that, I've known and made friends with some Aussie's and a couple of people living in England.
My Aussie buddy, has shot a 9mm handgun before. He went to a shooting range to do it. The gun was suspended in the air with bungy cables. Basically he could aim it just a few inches and pull the trigger. That's how paranoid the Aussie government is. His father owned a hunting rifle. They came and confiscated when they did an inspection to make sure it was secured. They came for the check and the gun was not in it's gun safe, so they took it, and he can't have it back.

The guy I know in England thinks his paintball gun is a hoot. But that's about how powerful a gun they can have there. And those are just 2 of the freer countries in the world.

I've told my Aussie buddy, if he get's over here to America again, I'll make sure he get's to shoot my guns, and do my best to get one of you guys with your awesome FA guns to meet us.

Honestly though, I could so easily shoot an intruder, or robber, but I don't know if I could shoot a cop to keep them from taking my guns. I wonder what would have happened if one of those in N.O. had defended their 2nd amendment rights by shooting a cop?[/b]

[KarlPMann]

If you wonder what would happen you're not putting any serious thought into it. There'd be no standoff, because they'd have no reason to stop and argue the point with you. The cop would die and so would you. They'd hit you so hard and so fast the best you could hope for was to take another one with you so the next guy has a few less to deal with. If more had that mentality, the seizures would stop because the cops decided they didn't like the attrition rate. Karl.

[nooobie]

I'm with Karl on this. I think this would be a cold dead fingers situation. It's hard to believe this was happening in the USA. Didn't they just pass legislation to stop confiscation in an emergency or am I hallucinating? That should prevent this in the future.

[Marpat]

Potentially the "new" legistlation will prevent this in the future, however as I read the 2nd, that verbeage was specifically, clearly and intentionally penned to prevent it in the first place. As many other millions in this country have already voiced, "WTF"? Substitute 'What' if you like, but at this point I am asking myself, 'WHY TF' are we allowing this?

[roman gnome]

If they show me a search warrant I will show them my guns,

Can't think of one reason -ever- for someone to leave with one!

[pickenup]

A new law to keep it from happening AGAIN.
ROFLMAO....what a JOKE.

Do you REALLY think a new law is going to prevent this in the future?
What about the laws that were broke, doing it THIS time.

Ahhhhh, never mind the OLD laws, we have "other" NEW ones.

I am sure that most of you have heard that on October 17, 2006 Bush signed the "Military Commissions Act" into law. It was quite controversial, in that it allowed the US government to hold (and torture?) terrorists. Suspending habeas corpus, no questions, NO rights. Defenders of this act maintain that it only applies to “foreign” terrorists, and can’t be used against the citizens of this country. For those defenders, all I can say is, read the fine print.

Nevertheless, this isn’t about the Military Commissions Act. This concerns the “John Warner National Defense Authorization Act” that was signed on the very same day. Anyone hear anything in the news about this one?

A little history.
Bush tried to suspend the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) of 1878, sighting fighting terrorism as the reason. (For those that don’t know. This is the Act that keeps American troops from being used against it’s citizens, except under certain conditions) Failing to garner support for this excuse, he CHANGED his excuse for wanting to suspend the PCA, to the possibility of a pandemic outbreak of some kind. AGAIN failing to garner enough support to suspend the PCA, the “John Warner National Defense Authorization Act” was written and quickly passed into law.

With one stroke of his pen, this grants the president the power to throw aside the PCA, as well as The Insurrection Act. The two Acts protecting “us” from “them, militarily.” Allowing the president to station US MILITARY troops ANYWHERE in the United States, and take control of state-based National Guard units WITHOUT THE CONSENT of the governor or local authorities.

In one day, with two NEW bills, he seizes enough power to name “anyone” a terrorist, take them away, never to be heard from again, AND the power to use US troops against it’s citizens, ANYWHERE.

Is anyone a history buff. What has historically followed the seizing of this type of power?

I‘ll repeat myself, a new law to keep Katrina from happening AGAIN???
ROFLMAO…What a JOKE.

[Artyboy]

At this point they're just using the second amendment to placate us. We can keep sitting around saying "Well they can do all of that other shit but at least they can't take our guns!" They'll come for our guns soon enough. When they do I don't think that many people will stand up to them.

[Asha'man]

I agree. As much as gun owners will proclaim "Molon Labe" to each other and thump their chests, very few will have the balls to make it happen.

And if it comes down to that, Molon Labe will have to come true or we're all fucked.