Interesting times we are in...

[islandermyk]

The world verses the 1%... hhhmmm...
Riots everywhere and its spreading... am I thinking to hard about this or is this something that will be contained?

[Big Wall]

I think it will be contained. I can't imagine socialism taking over in the US.

[islandermyk]

I think it will be contained. I can't imagine socialism taking over in the US.

I wasn't thinking of a socialism movement... I'm trying to think what got these people to snap like that. On the US we have people against banks, Corps, big money businesses etc... Now Europe... through some pictures it looks like they are targeting the rich.. burning nice cars, bashing windows, etc...

How does this affect us I ask? I noticed the gas prices going back up though[Rant1]

[Big Wall]

I think people are just getting very desparate and think they need to be taken care of. They see the rich having an "easy" time with what's going on and they think they deserve some of what the rich have.

The economy killed my business and my family lost everything. I never lost the drive to rage against the situation and have worked my way out of being jobless and homeless. If I wasn't a good person who associated with good people, my family probably would have been living in a tent somewhere instead of with a friend. As bad as things were, I couldn't imagine the despiration brought on by being helpless, homeless and not being able to provide for myself and family.

People in this country have overall had an easy cushy life. Myself included. Although it's not as bad as say the great depression, people are having a very hard time and have no experience with how to deal with it. Many of our grandparents lived thru the depression, but how many people even know their grandparents anymore? How many people live in apartments and couldn't grow a garden to help feed themselves if they needed to? How many people realize they need to have an emergency fund and food set aside for really bad times or emergencies?

The majority of us have grown up with a relatively easy, cushy life. When someone gets knocked off that bubble they have to have the drive to get back up. If they are too weak to do it they are going to want some sort of socialism to get them what they are not willing to strive for.

As for gas prices, I think they use any excuse to bump the pump prices up.

[islandermyk]

As for gas prices, I think they use any excuse to bump the pump prices up.

[Coffee] the truth sucks...

I see your point, but that's a lot of people getting involved in these riots, protest, marches... I also think the media is also to blame... finding facts about banks, big corporations, the wealthy, etc.and exposing the ugly throwing the fuel in the fire.

It's a good time to be in the business on Tear gas... they're using a lot of it these days.

Damn... I'd be in a little roach coach van selling gas mask to these guys.[NoEvil]

[BREATHER]

Look boys and girls, at the French Revolution. Who got the madam guilotine, the rich and the CORRUPT. People were starving and fighting foriegn wars while the CORRUPT played. Not to mention foriegners in power. And back then, there were urban dwellers, not all were farmers.

I see nothing wrong with capitolism, unless it involves cheating and corruption. When the rich get richer by screwing the working man out of fair wages and the working mans pensions. If it wasn't for the working man the rich would not be rich.

[MrPrena]

Right now, 99% movement is the biggest reality comedy on tv.
I tend to smile and laugh at them especially when the NYC ones march near millionare/billionare's house. I bet they were scarrrred. :D hehehehe

[colocowboy01]

I think it will be contained. I can't imagine socialism taking over in the US.

Socialism has already begun taking over America, i.e. welfare programs, unemployment benefits, housing assistance, food stamps, government student loans, TARP, government funded education, social security, etc.

[Big Wall]

I think the majority of the world has been way caught up in consumerism and have forgotten that family, friends and personal dignity are what are important.

In Europe, having a common currency is coming back to bite them in the butt as individual countries have the power to bring down the value of the euro with their financial crisis.

The media definately isn't helping the problem, but exposing the gluttony of banks, big corporations, etc. is probably necessary to bring about some kind of reasonable reforms.

[Big Wall]

Socialism has already begun taking over America, i.e. welfare programs, unemployment benefits, housing assistance, food stamps, government student loans, TARP, government funded education, social security, etc.


I agree that it is trying to get a toe hold, but I've got to believe that it will not be allowed to take over. There are going to have to be a lot of unpopular cuts made for any of these benifits to have a chance of being sustained. As a one time needer of some of these programs I think it is a good idea to have most of these programs available, but there has to be someway to make sure people are not able to stay on them for an extended period of time.

We all have probably seen people in the store buying groceries with a food card and then buying a bunch of unnecessary crap with cash. Maybe people need a hard core class on how money works.

[TSOTSI]

This guy has it right on. Worth the time to read.

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution (http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the)

By Angelo M. Codevilla (http://spectator.org/people/angelo-m-codevilla) from the July 2010 - August 2010 (http://spectator.org/issues/july-2010-august-2010) issue
The only serious opposition to this arrogant Ruling Party is coming not from feckless Republicans but from what might be called the Country Party -- and its vision is revolutionary. Our special Summer Issue cover story.


http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the

[islandermyk]

This guy has it right on. Worth the time to read.

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution (http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the)

By Angelo M. Codevilla (http://spectator.org/people/angelo-m-codevilla) from the July 2010 - August 2010 (http://spectator.org/issues/july-2010-august-2010) issue
The only serious opposition to this arrogant Ruling Party is coming not from feckless Republicans but from what might be called the Country Party -- and its vision is revolutionary. Our special Summer Issue cover story.


http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the

That was some good reading... didn't finish it.. I'll get back to it though.

There's a gathering of protesters here in Denver too "Occupy Denver".. damn... hope it doesn't get violent..

[PSS]

If it wasn't for the working man the rich would not be rich.

And conversely, if it wasn't for the rich the working man wouldn't be working. I feel like I have very little with the occupy people. If you want something go get it. I've never found myself without options for work. But some of those options aren't attractive enough to compel me to work. I find that to be my problem. Not something I blame on the rich. Covetousness afflicts the poor too. Why should just the rich and corrupt get the chop? What about the poor and corrupt? People on public programs that play the system, milking every dime they can. Some seem to work harder trying to get a free dinner than simply going out and earning it.

[Sharpienads]

I think the majority of the world has been way caught up in consumerism and have forgotten that family, friends and personal dignity are what are important.

A huge +1 on this. Especially here in America.


I agree that it is trying to get a toe hold, but I've got to believe that it will not be allowed to take over. There are going to have to be a lot of unpopular cuts made for any of these benifits to have a chance of being sustained. As a one time needer of some of these programs I think it is a good idea to have most of these programs available, but there has to be someway to make sure people are not able to stay on them for an extended period of time.

We all have probably seen people in the store buying groceries with a food card and then buying a bunch of unnecessary crap with cash. Maybe people need a hard core class on how money works.

Here, I disagree. I believe that as a country, we are at a very pivotal point. We either restore our country to our founding principles, or continue on the road we're on which will ultimately end in tyranny. Some extent of socialism is already established here in America, as somebody pointed out earlier. It will take over if we allow it. Things like social security, unemployment, et al. might be popular and you may have benefited from them, but that doesn't mean that they are not BLATANTLY unconstitutional at the federal level and a slap in the face of federalism and the rule of law, two cornerstones of the foundation of our republic.

[sniper7]

Right now, 99% movement is the biggest reality comedy on tv.
I tend to smile and laugh at them especially when the NYC ones march near millionare/billionare's house. I bet they were scarrrred. :D hehehehe

Hopefully the rich will invest in more guns!

[sniper7]

I saw a quick bit on fox news about peer to peer lending which seemed like a great idea to cut at the banks. It may not be staggering sums of money but death by a million papercuts will work just fine

[Chad4000]

certainly a scary time in history... the next couple years probably determines the history of humanity...

no pressure right.....

[islandermyk]

A huge +1 on this. Especially here in America.



I believe that as a country, we are at a very pivotal point. We either restore our country to our founding principles, or continue on the road we're on which will ultimately end in tyranny.

I also believe that this country gets to involved with to many foreign affairs.


NYC, Denver, Chicago... any other State am I missing that having these protest?

I think it will get ugly and violent really soon just like what's happening in Europe... 99% is just thinking and waiting for someone to give'em the excuse to snap... this sucks... people are out there asking for the impossible if anything and when they see no good outcome they just get more frustrated... and then it gets ugly..

Am I worried? Not at all[Peep]