View Full Version : Latest doh moment for Colorado...
So our ever so great ([LOL]) governor, John Hickenlooper (or Dickinpooper, Lickmypooper, however he spells it) is making enemies with the Occupy folks; he closed Lincoln Park where the protests are going on, and the people (dare I call them idiots?) are mad because he's having people arrested en masse. Do they not realize this could be because some of them are breaking the law??? Say it ain't so! Usually you get arrested for doing something illegal, not just protesting... but if a park is closed to the public (especially protesters)- correct me if I'm wrong- isn't that trespassing? And last time I checked you can get cuffed and carted away for that...
Both sides- Governor vs Occupy morons- are seemingly representing the absolute best and brightest [*cough*not*cough] of Colorado here!
ghettodub
10-17-2011, 11:12
Eh, I don't mind Hick, and I'm glad he's having em arrested, instead of the alternative...
Eh, I don't mind Hick, and I'm glad he's having em arrested, instead of the alternative...
The thing that totally makes my skin crawl is they don't think they're in the wrong! Vandalism, littering, loitering (oh no!)... not to mention they're just annoying and a nuisance.
A late night dozer through tent city would have been a sweet youtube video
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 11:40
How many threads do we need on this?
ghettodub
10-17-2011, 11:54
The thing that totally makes my skin crawl is they don't think they're in the wrong! Vandalism, littering, loitering (oh no!)... not to mention they're just annoying and a nuisance.
Agreed. The thing that bugs me is they're not unified in what they are even doing there, and some people have no idea.
Plus, if they care about America so much and want to fix it, why are there no American flags down there?
Because those are the same people who complain about the American flag, Jesus/Christmas, etc...
Agreed. The thing that bugs me is they're not unified in what they are even doing there, and some people have no idea.
Plus, if they care about America so much and want to fix it, why are there no American flags down there?
Because those are the same people who complain about the American flag, Jesus/Christmas, etc...
To quote a great Avenged Sevenfold song: "Pointing their fingers in every direction and blaming their own nation for who wins the elections. They've never contributed a f!!king thing to the country they love to criticize."
sneakerd
10-17-2011, 16:23
DeusExMachina is just mad because he agrees with the
Occupiers.[M2]
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 16:36
Plus, if they care about America so much and want to fix it, why are there no American flags down there?
Maybe you can write them a letter with the "list of things a protest needs to have before I care". Make sure "American Flags" is listed right after "Belongs to the Tea Party". [ROFL1]
To quote a great Avenged Sevenfold song: "Pointing their fingers in every direction and blaming their own nation for who wins the elections. They've never contributed a f!!king thing to the country they love to criticize."
All I need to say is: Tea Party calling for Obama's impeachment.
DeusExMachina is just mad because he agrees with the
Occupiers.[M2]
I do. I don't agree with the fringe Communist bull**** that is suddenly what the media is saying the protests are about, because that's not it. It's just the angle in which it's being twisted to discredit the actual message.
sneakerd
10-17-2011, 17:03
I don't know Deus- it ALL appears to me to be about redistribution of wealth, larger gov't, the "right" to free education, the "right" to free housing, forgiveness of all debt (which as it nice as it might seem, is insanity). It's all around the fringes of pure Marxism and pure Socialism and anti-Capitalism.
Must be the protestors that have it wrong sneak. [Dunno]
[LOL]
That's pretty much what I'm seeing from them.
sneakerd
10-17-2011, 17:37
I'm just trying to be nice! In truth, you could steamroller all of 'em and I wouldn't shed a tear. Paid for the TRP today, it'll prob be here next Monday or so. It's supposedly pretty cherry- for $949 into my hands inclding all dealer fees! Nites are dated '09.
KevDen2005
10-17-2011, 17:38
I hate how down town looks crappier and crappier with this type of stuff. I am glad the park is closed due to the occupy people.
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 18:11
I don't know Deus- it ALL appears to me to be about redistribution of wealth, larger gov't, the "right" to free education, the "right" to free housing, forgiveness of all debt (which as it nice as it might seem, is insanity). It's all around the fringes of pure Marxism and pure Socialism and anti-Capitalism.
That is what the media is saying. Remember how the media lies to show their "truth" regarding gun ownership and gun rights in America? Surprise, surprise they're lying about Occupy Wall Street.
The core of the protest is there's a lot of people who feel the system has failed them. And it has...1% of people own 40% of the wealth. The middle class is all but gone. The gap is getting wider...the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Despite what the government says, ACTUAL unemployment is approaching 20%. Educated Americans can't find jobs, small businesses pay more taxes than "too big to fail" corporations, banks exploit their customers. Politicians are bought and sold the moment they think about running for office.
Some people resort to extremism when they feel they are stretched to the extreme. That's why you see people making Communist demands. It happens. That's not what everyone is after. Some people still have hope.
I've seen more of their rants than I can swallow from FB - no media twist; still hearing a bunch handout hungry libs.
I haven't seen gun owners holding up signs saying felons deserve guns, too.
I HAVE seen signs demanding global forgiving of debt as the OWS demands.
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 18:38
I haven't seen gun owners holding up signs saying felons deserve guns, too.
I saw just as much derp from Tea Partiers.
The media is trying to marginalize this the same they did with the Tea Party, by focusing on the biggest idiots or the most extreme in the crowd. It's the same damn thing.
For the first few weeks they attempted to ignore it until it would go away. Complete media blackout. Then, when it became too big to ignore, they immediately went for the people doing drugs, breaking laws, saying crazy **** or had the craziest signs. Which is a tiny fraction of the people.
sneakerd
10-17-2011, 18:44
I heard reports today stating that certain MSNBC anchors were emailing the Occupy folks with ideas on how better to get their message out, how to get better coverage, etc. I also watched a bit of Democracy Now! today and you cannot tell me that they tilt their coverage on the negative towards the Occupyers. They are 100% in support of them. The middle class is alive and well by the way, and you - Deus are spouting the talking points of the left. Don't forget it's your elected President who is doing most of the bailing out of the big corporations. Also, why is all of the stimulus money going to the states- i.e. UNIONS and GOV'T WORKERS. The private sector is being wholly left out of the "stimulus".
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 18:48
I heard reports today stating that certain MSNBC anchors were emailing the Occupy folks with ideas on how better to get their message out, how to get better coverage, etc. I also watched a bit of Democracy Now! today and you cannot tell me that they tilt their coverage on the negative towards the Occupyers. They are 100% in support of them. The middle class is alive and well by the way, and you - Deus are spouting the talking points of the left. Don't forget it's your elected President who is doing most of the bailing out of the big corporations. Also, why is all of the stimulus money going to the states- i.e. UNIONS and GOV'T WORKERS. The private sector is being wholly left out of the "stimulus".
You're just as bad as them. I'm not spouting any talking points, and I didn't vote for Obama. Jesus Christ this is starting to sound like McCarthyism.
The President, fortunately, doesn't have much say. So it was your (and mine, and everybody's) Congress that did the bailing out.
Are you against stimulus money going to the states? Isn't that what the right is all about? The states, not the big government?
And have you driven on the roads lately? All the building projects are being completed by private contractors from all over the place.
sneakerd
10-17-2011, 19:31
"You're just as bad as them". I was actually not pointing fingers at you at all, I mean- you have been in my home pal. Trying- although I was struggling- to be mellow and coherent. The stimulus programs were pushed by the admin(except for the 1st- by Bush)- i.e. Obama, because like all Keynesians, he thinks gov't spending is all that it takes to bring a country out of a recession, even though it has NEVER worked on it's own. Yes I absolutely believe much more power needs to be relinquished to the individual states, as I think that the people of THAT state should drive its social/fiscal programs, based on the needs of the people of that state. The MONEY is going to the states, BLUE states, not the red states, then being redistributed as that governor wishes. Your last statement is irrelevant, as it has nothing to do with the conversation, and is not so simplistic as you try to make it sound,
I'm sorry man, I just can't take what you're saying seriously when you won't even use their real names. It's the sort of willing stupidity that should be kept to arfcom GD.
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 20:41
"You're just as bad as them". I was actually not pointing fingers at you at all, I mean- you have been in my home pal. Trying- although I was struggling- to be mellow and coherent. The stimulus programs were pushed by the admin(except for the 1st- by Bush)- i.e. Obama, because like all Keynesians, he thinks gov't spending is all that it takes to bring a country out of a recession, even though it has NEVER worked on it's own. Yes I absolutely believe much more power needs to be relinquished to the individual states, as I think that the people of THAT state should drive its social/fiscal programs, based on the needs of the people of that state. The MONEY is going to the states, BLUE states, not the red states, then being redistributed as that governor wishes. Your last statement is irrelevant, as it has nothing to do with the conversation, and is not so simplistic as you try to make it sound,
You were doing a pretty bad job of not pointing fingers by attempting to "out" me as some Obama voter, or whatever you were attempting to do.
Source of money going to blue states?
And the stimulus money is for construction projects and the construction projects are completed by private contractors. Seems pretty relevant to me?
I'm sorry man, I just can't take what you're saying seriously when you won't even use their real names. It's the sort of willing stupidity that should be kept to arfcom GD.
Mind being a little clear on who/what you're talking to/about?
Daniel_187
10-17-2011, 20:41
Am kinda on the fence, 1st why are they not out looking for work, they are just hanging out. But 2nd as tax payers they should be able to tell dickinpooper to get bent we paid for it. imo
DeusExMachina
10-17-2011, 20:43
Am kinda on the fence, 1st why are they not out looking for work, they are just hanging out. But 2nd as tax payers they should be able to tell dickinpooper to get bent we paid for it. imo
After looking for 2-3 years, some people get desperate.
Eggysrun
10-17-2011, 21:58
I respect peoples rights to protest, but not when they can't be decent human beings about it and break the law.
The biggest problem we have today isn't big corporations, isn't Obama, isn't the white house. It's the fact the president has a limit of 2 terms, while the senate and congress can serve as long as they are voted. Fundamental problems have existed through multiple presidencies because we have the same crooked senators and congressman who's campaigns are funded by lobby groups that it makes it practically impossible for regular joe to go run for these positions.
Back in the day when America was a true republic anyone could run for office, poor, rich it didn't matter. Today it's really the 1% that can even afford to run for these "public" positions.
The thing that totally makes my skin crawl is they don't think they're in the wrong! Vandalism, littering, loitering (oh no!)... not to mention they're just annoying and a nuisance.
What do you think a protest is? If you didn't do those things, then you would be COMPLETELY ignored. Might as well pass around an online petition.
Why are you guys demonizing Dues over this? I don't see why it is so difficult to understand what he's trying to say here. Many of the Occupy people are retarded, true, but their out there protesting the same things that most of you constantly bitch about; they just have a different solution in mind. Their solution is extremely stupid and dangerous, but what do you expect from a class of people taught and raised to rely on their government?
These protesters DO need direction, but they need direction from someone with a solid understanding of how the economy can realistically function. If the other side of the people (ALL OF YOU) would join your voices, add some direction to these protests, then some serious notice would be taken and we've have a REAL protest on our hands. Instead, as usual, we'll all just sit around and bitch about things we think we can't change, but in reality are just too lazy and too scared to even attempt. So let's just sit back and make fun of all the people willing to protest (because they apparently don't have anything better to do), instead of taking advantage of them to actually accomplish something.
All I need to say is: Tea Party calling for Obama's impeachment.
Ok, little late here (busy day yesterday) but are you saying the Tea Party is wrong for asking for Obeyme's impeachment? Lest I remind you of "Fast & Furious", and God forbid I remind folks about the vast chasm between what he's done and hasn't done since getting elected.... oh yeah and $5 TRILLION in just 2 YEARS!?!?!?!?!
DeusExMachina
10-18-2011, 11:15
Ok, little late here (busy day yesterday) but are you saying the Tea Party is wrong for asking for Obeyme's impeachment? Lest I remind you of "Fast & Furious", and God forbid I remind folks about the vast chasm between what he's done and hasn't done since getting elected.... oh yeah and $5 TRILLION in just 2 YEARS!?!?!?!?!
The truly impeachable offenses, like executing a US citizen without any sort of legal process, go unnoticed and cheered by Tea Partiers.
I seriously doubt he spawned Fast and Furious, if anything that's Holder.
The Tea Party rallies started in 2009, in which people had signs calling for Obama's impeachment. For what? He had barely been inaugurated.
The truly impeachable offenses, like executing a US citizen without any sort of legal process, go unnoticed and cheered by Tea Partiers.
I seriously doubt he spawned Fast and Furious, if anything that's Holder.
The Tea Party rallies started in 2009, in which people had signs calling for Obama's impeachment. For what? He had barely been inaugurated.
Ok so we should have put US troops in danger to go arrest a TERRORIST!? I agree with the Tea Party on cheering for that one.
Holder still has a job, but seriously, ever heard the phrase "The Buck Stops Here"? Or accountability... When I was in the Army if one of my soldiers screwed up I got in trouble because I was probably doing something wrong in training them to be good troops.
And I guess that whole faked birth certificate doesn't bother you.
DeusExMachina
10-18-2011, 11:43
Ok so we should have put US troops in danger to go arrest a TERRORIST!? I agree with the Tea Party on cheering for that one.
Holder still has a job, but seriously, ever heard the phrase "The Buck Stops Here"? Or accountability... When I was in the Army if one of my soldiers screwed up I got in trouble because I was probably doing something wrong in training them to be good troops.
And I guess that whole faked birth certificate doesn't bother you.
We've put US troops in danger for stupider things...but I never said that. US Citizens are guaranteed rights and they deserve those rights no matter what they allegedly did. If we allow the government to decide when we deserve rights and when we do not, we don't have those rights at all.
The fact that NO legal process was taken or even proposed for the sanctioned killing of two citizens is disturbing. I'm not going to derail the thread on this straw man any more, because it's not relevant. Same with the alleged faked birth certificate...if anyone has proof that it was faked they are too cowardly to present that proof, so there's no point wasting the energy on it.
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