Gun and Ammo prices

[Atrain1]

Is their any reason to believe that Gun and Ammo prices rise? Or will ammo become hard to get like it was awhile back?

[Gcompact30]

I need to get some 45GAP and 357 SIG before it does go up in price.

[SouthPaw]

I have noticied almost all ammo prices have increased, or at least at Wal-Mart. Federal made the jump along with winchester. 45acp went up almost $3/per box! I did happen to notice the other day that Federal was now making "Bulk pack" ammo in 9mm. It was like $19.97 a box of 100. That puts it where it used to be.

[leatherneck448]

Bulk (100rnd box) 9mm WWB was 32.95 at dicks on monday, and UMC was 14.99 a box. go figure.... [Rant1]

[roberth]

Stock up now and learn how to roll your own.

[jhood001]

Ammo yes, guns no.

The Obama fear drove gun sales and production through the roof. If anything, I think the price on new firearms is going to decrease in the next 2-3 years unless new legislation is put in place that directly inhibits the production or sale of certain models... and something like having to fill out a form if you buy 2 or more at a time won't count.

That is my opinion anyway.

[cofi]

if any sort of ammo registration and its gonna be worth its weight in gold

[Gcompact30]

I thought about getting a dillion progressive press to roll my own LOL. Any suggestions?


Stock up now and learn how to roll your own.

[roberth]

I thought about getting a dillion progressive press to roll my own LOL. Any suggestions?

Yes, I have a Dillon Square Deal B for 45ACP exclusively and I'm looking at a Dillon 550B for rifle calibers. After that another Square Deal B for 9mm exclusively.

Dillon makes an excellent product and they stand behind it.

There are other progressive presses but I have 3 friends who reload alot more than I do and they all use Dillon.

I'm pretty much a noob to reloading but I'll do my best to help you out or anyone else for that matter.

[Gcompact30]

Yes, I have a Dillon Square Deal B for 45ACP exclusively and I'm looking at a Dillon 550B for rifle calibers. After that another Square Deal B for 9mm exclusively.

Dillon makes an excellent product and they stand behind it.

There are other progressive presses but I have 3 friends who reload alot more than I do and they all use Dillon.

I'm pretty much a noob to reloading but I'll do my best to help you out or anyone else for that matter.

[sneakerd]

Just my opinion- I don't think reloading is worth it. Once you price out everything that you need, plus set-up, plus all of your time actually doing it, re-doing it, experimenting, plus the cost of whatever mistakes you make- to yours and/or your buddy's gun or guns, it just isn't worth it to me. I buy factory ammo in bulk. As long as you shop and know what you should be paying, you can get plenty of good deals.

[roberth]

Yes, just the dies.

As I understand it the Square Deal B is best set up for one caliber and left alone, it is pistol calibers only.

The 550B is easy to convert to any caliber you want, you just need to buy the plates and dies, the plates make it so you don't have to adjust the dies each time you want to load a new caliber, change out the plate w/ dies attached, powder, primers and you're ready to go.

The Dillon web site can probably explain it better than I can.

[Gcompact30]

Just my opinion- I don't think reloading is worth it. Once you price out everything that you need, plus set-up, plus all of your time actually doing it, re-doing it, experimenting, plus the cost of whatever mistakes you make- to yours and/or your buddy's gun or guns, it just isn't worth it to me. I buy factory ammo in bulk. As long as you shop and know what you should be paying, you can get plenty of good deals.

[Gcompact30]

Yes, just the dies.

As I understand it the Square Deal B is best set up for one caliber and left alone, it is pistol calibers only.

The 550B is easy to convert to any caliber you want, you just need to buy the plates and dies, the plates make it so you don't have to adjust the dies each time you want to load a new caliber, change out the plate w/ dies attached, powder, primers and you're ready to go.

The Dillon web site can probably explain it better than I can.

[roberth]

Just my opinion- I don't think reloading is worth it. Once you price out everything that you need, plus set-up, plus all of your time actually doing it, re-doing it, experimenting, plus the cost of whatever mistakes you make- to yours and/or your buddy's gun or guns, it just isn't worth it to me. I buy factory ammo in bulk. As long as you shop and know what you should be paying, you can get plenty of good deals.

I gave it alot of thought before I made the jump. Reloading is time consuming and exacting, I'm fortunate to have the free time to pursue it. I find reloading to be relaxing and fun, plus testing my 'made with my own hands' ammo is fun too, any excuse to go to the range.

[roberth]

You're welcome Gcompact30.

[Gcompact30]

You're welcome Gcompact30.

[Zombie Steve]

Scrounged about 25 pounds of wheel weights today. [Muaha] I'll probably mix it with the roughly 70 pounds of straight lead a buddy brought over the other day and make a decent alloy.

I guess I'm somewhere around 6 cents a shot for .45's since I started casting.

[Muaha][Muaha][Muaha][Muaha]

[roberth]

I don't know nuttin' about 45GAP, I'd trade up to 45ACP but that's just me.

When I had pistols in 357Sig I bought my ammo at Walmart, it was the least expensive local place. 357Sig is a tremendous cartridge but it is expensive and LOUD indoors.

[sneakerd]

Trust me not trying to tread on anybody. For me it just isn't worth it. At 6 cents shot in 45- I could be wrong!! But I'll bet it's a large investment to be casting as well. Of course you have to have a safe place to do it as well.

[Gcompact30]

I just had to have the glock 45gap. I also have several glock 45acp black and OD :-) I love my 45. Actually I love all glocks lol. Need more OD glocks.


I don't know nuttin' about 45GAP, I'd trade up to 45ACP but that's just me.

When I had pistols in 357Sig I bought my ammo at Walmart, it was the least expensive local place. 357Sig is a tremendous cartridge but it is expensive and LOUD indoors.

[Atrain1]

I just had to have the glock 45gap. I also have several glock 45acp black and OD :-) I love my 45. Actually I love all glocks lol. Need more OD glocks. I do to I just traded my od G20 and I am kicking myself

[roberth]

I just had to have the glock 45gap. I also have several glock 45acp black and OD :-) I love my 45. Actually I love all glocks lol. Need more OD glocks.

You're a Glock person:) I am not although I was looking hard at a Glock 17 GEN1 at the last Tanner show, I had a GEN1 when they first came out.

[cofi]

I guess I'm somewhere around 6 cents a shot for .45's since I started casting.

[Muaha][Muaha][Muaha][Muaha]
that is wild

[Gcompact30]

I have been a glock guy since the 1990 :-). I don't talk bad about other weapon systems, but the glock system is best for me. So like father like son. My son is a glock guy to lol.


I do to I just traded my od G20 and I am kicking myself

[BPTactical]

Back to the original question: "Why do guns and ammo rise in price"?
Guns- a commodity like anything else. Demand and supply. The post election frenzy was based on speculation, people speculated that Obozo would drop the hammer on firearms. When the next rattle of pending legislation comes out it will be the same.
Ammo- all of the above reasons plus the cost of raw materials. Lead and copper are not getting any cheaper.

[roberth]

Back to the original question: "Why do guns and ammo rise in price"?
Guns- a commodity like anything else. Demand and supply. The post election frenzy was based on speculation, people speculated that Obozo would drop the hammer on firearms. When the next rattle of pending legislation comes out it will be the same.
Ammo- all of the above reasons plus the cost of raw materials. Lead and copper are not getting any cheaper.

I'd expect Obozo to try something in the next 14 months.

Transportation costs (diesel fuel, tires) play a role in the price of ammo, ammo is heavy last I checked.[Tooth]

[Gcompact30]

I am hoping to pick up an OD 17, 19, 20, 22, 27 or 29 lol. All are easy to shoot and learn. Glock armorer since 1991.


You're a Glock person:) I am not although I was looking hard at a Glock 17 GEN1 at the last Tanner show, I had a GEN1 when they first came out.

[cofi]

I'd expect Obozo to try something in the next 14 months.


he is

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/26/democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treaty

[roberth]

he is

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/07/26/democrats-oppose-obama-un-gun-control-treaty

That ain't gonna pass. I expect Obozo to write an executive order.

[jerrymrc]

Still loading rounds for cheap. At the rate I am going I have 5-7 years before the prices change for me.

When surplus was cheap I bought. When the handwriting was on the wall 2003-2005 I bought components. Brass, bullets, powder, primers and lead. Still buying pistol bullets but I can cast.

.223 is costing me about $110 per K to load right now. [Coffee] It all depends but I do not see ammo prices going down. All it will do is go up. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.

Back when Wolf .223 was $75 per K the long gone Ammunitionstore.com had Maine reloads using once fired brass for $129 per K. South African surplus was right at $100 per K. You all stocked up right?

It may seem high now but give it a couple of years. just a thought.[Beer]

[BPTactical]

That ain't gonna pass. I expect Obozo to write an executive order.
I look for him to attempt something drastic. He is sinking faster than the Titanic and probably knows he is a one termer. He is trying to assert himself and regain his base of support and will do anything to win support.
Not to mention watching him trying to pimp his jobs bill he is pissed.

That makes him dangerous.
We can only hope Fast and Furious kills his credibility on firearm issues.

[Daniel_187]

my .30 carbine ammo went up a litle too, I do reload but like to have a stash JIC. .223 came down a lot compaired to a few years ago. I like Aimsurplus's prices but do not like that they need photo ID to order from them

[generalmeow]

Is their any reason to believe that Gun and Ammo prices rise? Or will ammo become hard to get like it was awhile back?

I view my guns as a hedge against inflation. Put your $1000 in a gun, and that gun will be worth $2000 20 years from now.

Keep $1000 in cash, and your cash will feel like it's worth $500 20 years from now.

I like guns and ammo better than gold because....good luck beating someone to death after a complete societal collapse with a bar of gold. In the long term, gold is a better bet because it won't rust or wear out. In the medium term, guns and ammo are a better bet for me.

[MED]

Just my opinion- I don't think reloading is worth it. Once you price out everything that you need, plus set-up, plus all of your time actually doing it, re-doing it, experimenting, plus the cost of whatever mistakes you make- to yours and/or your buddy's gun or guns, it just isn't worth it to me. I buy factory ammo in bulk. As long as you shop and know what you should be paying, you can get plenty of good deals.

I load 1000 rounds of 45acp for $140 ($7 for a box of 50). I can load 1000 rounds on my Dillon 550B in an afternoon. 15-20 years ago I was loading 45acp for about $4 per box of 50. Given the volume of shooting I did back then, I saved thousands of dollars reloading especially the rifle calibers (the factory price for 338 win mag as well as other rifle calibers is crazy). I didn't reload 7.62x39 or 223 back then because it was cheap (like $67ish for a case of 7.62x39 and $250 a box for 223), but today I can load 500 rounds of 223 for around $90-$100 give or take a few bucks, which is a pretty good deal given the factory price. I have never damaged a firearm with a bad reload; a little common sense goes a long way. Additionally, I have all the tools to cast along with materials and components to load, enough for my lifetime if there is ever scarcity. I don't cast now for range ammunition, but I am setup to do so if necessary.

If you shoot a lot, reloading makes a lot of sense. If you don't and have no need for hand loaded uniform rifle ammunition, then loading makes very little sense.

[roberth]

I haven't measured my saving, all I know is that reloading is less expensive and it is FUN.

I still buy factory ammo for a couple of calibers if I'm running short or there is a good deal.

[DawnPatrol]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but Murdoch's Ranch & Home Supply in Littleton is having a sale on all PMC Ammo (223A, 9MM, 40 S&W, 45 and 380)...10% off. I've only bought the 9mm in the past which is normally 12.99 for 50, so it should be about 11.70. Also 10% off Federal Centerfire Rifle and Shotgun Shells. Prices good thru 10/30. I'm swinging by tomorrow so if you need me to check a price, let me know.