View Full Version : What to carry in my car this Winter
glockedandloaded
10-24-2011, 16:44
IM new to the area. what should i keep in my car for the snow or winter?
i have a rwd car. i already bought winter tires and wheels.
Cellphone, bottle of Yukon Jack, bag of stale M&Ms...
at least that's what's in MY emergency kit...[LOL]
trlcavscout
10-24-2011, 16:52
Folding shovel and blankets.
Zundfolge
10-24-2011, 16:56
In addition to what has already been listed you might want to pick up a set of chains too.
SuperiorDG
10-24-2011, 16:59
Cat litter
SuperiorDG
10-24-2011, 17:01
Oh, BTW if you are from CA there is a law here that prevents your from driving when it snows.
Zundfolge
10-24-2011, 17:02
Cat litter
Yeah, the cheap kind in big bags... not the scented, non clumping kind.
mcantar18c
10-24-2011, 17:02
I have my BOB and a 5 gal water jug (insulated with part of a thick foam sleeping pad).
That's all one should need, and even then the water is just a convenience.
You're asking about basic survival right?
If you mean recovery stuff to help you out if you get stuck, get a hitch, a hitch-mount winch plate, and a winch. That'll get you out of just about everything if you know how to use it.
I keep my 72hr bag in the car in the winter, or when I'm travelling out of the metro area.
Have a change of clothes, wool socks, MREs, water, fire starter, propane stove, folding shovel, a blanket, compass, map, and a few other things.
Basically what I hope is enough that if I were to be stranded in my car, I could wait out a rescue, or navigate my way to civilization if need be.
Oh, BTW if you are from CA there is a law here that prevents your from driving when it snows.
[ROFL1]
I'm honestly planning on calling in on Wed. It'll be cold, first snow of the season, and it's the day after Battlefield 3 comes out. [Coffee]
hurley842002
10-24-2011, 17:09
Call it overkill, but i've got a large Tupperware container with a couple gallons of water, several protein bars, a couple wool blankets, change of clothes, first aid kit (along with the others kept in the Jeep year round), propane heater (heater buddy), 2 spare propane jugs (small coleman ones), multiple fire starting devices, extra coat, chains. Plus my tool box usually goes in the Jeep once winter hits (the extra weight is a plus). I rarely use the cargo space in my Jeep for anything other than the above items, so it's not an inconvenience for me, plus I never let the winter keep me from heading into the back country, so it's quite necessary to be prepared.
Gloves, for those cold dark nights...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5409059787_179aa27c66_b.jpg
I have a truck and don't need any of that crap!
At least that seems to be the mindset of some folks. All good advice above. I have enough to make it at least 3talk days
StagLefty
10-24-2011, 17:42
If you watched the blizzard last year in Chicago there were people stuck for a long period of time right in their cars. It's not overkill to have what a lot of these folks have mentioned. Even a candle will keep you warm in a car (crack a window) and having a book will help also. MRE's and snack bars are a great morale booster. [Beer]
Along with all the crap mentioned above, you might want to make a couple of friends and keep the cell phone handy. [Awesom]
If you're strictly an "around town" kind of a guy, you really don't need anything. If you plan on traveling off the beaten path or up in the mountains, you probably can't have too much stuff.... just in case. [Beer]
Not sure what kind of RWD vehicle you have, but putting some weight over those wheels will buy you a lot of traction. My company trucks have all been 4WD but I seldom, if ever, have to put them in 4x4. Seems 4000 lbs. over the rear axle really gives you some traction. [Coffee]
glockedandloaded
10-24-2011, 18:12
2000 5 series BMW I do carry my bob with me at all times.
I'm allergic to cats so do I still need the kitty litter ?
DD977GM2
10-24-2011, 18:15
On top of all what others have posted, I would also get those pink gel buffet heater things (http://www.oztableware.com/food-heating-fuel-prime-heat.php)(at any army surplus store)
and a solid platform like an elevated candle holder
to light in the event your stuck and its night and enine can not be ranto keep you warm.
This will take the chill out of the air and allow you be relativly comfortable.
I have several of these and if you lose all your water or drink it up you will also
have a means to melt snow. NEVER EAT SNOW UNLESS ITS TRUELLY A LAST RESORT.
Watch the news and if there is gonna be snow by morning rush hour, LEAVE A FULL 1.5 HOURS
AHEAD OF TIME IF YOU DRIVE IN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC or 530AM to 9AM TIMES.
A 30 ft tow strap and about 2 pieces of 2 ft of 3/8 or bigger chain with a way connect them such as a 1/2 x 13 bolt with washers and a nut.
This will enable you to tie onto any part of the frame of your vehicle and others vehicles if there are no obvious spots for tie on.
I travel in remote sections of the Rocky Mountain region and these are the
bare minimum
for vehicle recovery.
Also Tuesday night the 25th, if there is significant snow on the ground, go to an empty parking lot and do some donuts to get used to how your vehicle reacts to kicking the ass end out.
Eggysrun
10-24-2011, 18:23
Extra blankets, cold weather clothes. A metal shovel (I also have an e-tool for backup), Cat litter is ok but I fill a container with a mixture of sand, gravel and salt.
First aid kit, food, water (I mix in a little vodka so it doesn't freeze). Map of Colorado.
Above all else, plan your trip and watch the weather.
Holger Danske
10-24-2011, 18:29
Fill your tank before a storm. Don't let it get past 1/2 full before refilling.
2008f450
10-24-2011, 18:48
I didnt see it mentioned yet but keep a level head on your shoulders. Dont rush, dont try to make up time with speed. Either leave earlier or get there late. All the gear listed here wont do you anygood if you roll it down the road several times or wind up under whats left of a jack knifed semi. Other than that brake a little early, apply thr throttle slowly, and no qiuck jerks of the steering wheel and you should be fine
jerrymrc
10-24-2011, 18:59
All good replies. The cars get a small kit but the truck that does go into the mountains in winter where there is no cell coverage gets a large kit. Enough to keep a couple alive for a week.
The small kit.
water
blankets
LED flashlight + batteries
Flares
candles+matches
gloves
chemical hand warmers
first aid kit
MRE W/heater + a couple of granola bars
Toilet paper in ziploc
Small roll of duct tape
Paper towls in ziploc
They also get one of those cheap roadside kits in a bag with jumper cables and a few tools. I add some stainless wire, electrical wire, some zip ties.
I put the MRE, TP, hand warmers and candles/matches in a coffee can with a lid. It and the rest all go into a small plastic container.
It may sound like a lot but it is not. Harbor Freight has a small LED flashlight that has 3 on the end and a bunch on one side. It has a hook and a magnet for $5 or so. Not killer bright but very useful.
Take a book. I have a RWD car and all traffic stops when some SUV rolls off the road and you have to sit for a couple of hours.
The radio keeps telling you its snowing and you just want to relax.
Good Gore Tex socks are almost as good as boots if you have to walk away.
Oh, BTW if you are from CA there is a law here that prevents your from driving when it snows. Its people from colorado that cant drive in the snow. I have not been able to figure that out you guys were born here. I am from California and I have never seen so many accidents every day I leave my house in my life, man it is scary to ride my motorcycle, I have already been rearended twice. And what is the deal with colorado? do people not know out here the left lane is the fast lane, not the 55 in a 75 lane.
OutdoorsNative
10-24-2011, 19:32
Some extra warm clothes, blankets, folding shovel, water, some food, bag of kitty litter. Those are some of your options.
Tinelement
10-24-2011, 19:38
I would say it depends on your history! I'm from the snow belt of northern Wisconsin, to me out here there is no winter on the front range! I only carry a 12 pack for sitting in traffic!! Now if you're from the south might be another story! Just my 2 cents!![Beer]
Good thread.
I carry too much to even list it all but I stow it effeciently. The basics have already been posted as well as consideration to appropriate vehicle prep. Follow the input provided and you're good.
BigNick73
10-24-2011, 20:26
I'm in the same boat putting my kit together now.
Just ran across these, thought it was a good deal and wanted to share
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/4-used-hungarian-military-duffels-olive-drab.aspx?a=815856
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?p=WX2&i=62845
I'm doing 3 so on top of the blankets, 4 per car, I made some fire kits (A small firesteel, mag bar, razor blade for a striker, in a old dip can stuffed with some dryer lint rubbed in vasoline and wrapped in toilet paper.) Got MREs coming, going to go to walmart get 3 folding shovels, hand warmers, sterno cans, matches, jugs of distilled water (wont freeze if really pure).
What's the kitty litter for?
Kitty litter is for pouring under your tires for traction.
BigNick73
10-24-2011, 20:44
Ahhh never thought of that have to add it to the kits. Would salt work just as well?
Byte Stryke
10-24-2011, 20:45
Ahhh never thought of that have to add it to the kits. Would salt work just as well?
no
trlcavscout
10-24-2011, 20:49
Its people from colorado that cant drive in the snow. I have not been able to figure that out you guys were born here. I am from California and I have never seen so many accidents every day I leave my house in my life, man it is scary to ride my motorcycle, I have already been rearended twice. And what is the deal with colorado? do people not know out here the left lane is the fast lane, not the 55 in a 75 lane.
But you live with the pirates over there [Beer] And dont pull that BS most of us have been to the crap hole and seen how they drive out there. When I lived in Vegas we went to cali on the weekends quite a bit and my god those people are idiots!!! Although I agree people here drive like crap, but most were not born and raised here.
soldier-of-the-apocalypse
10-24-2011, 20:52
A hot chick with big boobs I always stop to winch them out of the ditch, but if you don't have one of those you will need a shovel, extra clothes,tow rope, mre, cell phone, flash light, tools, tire chains, AAA membership, firewood, tent, water, oil, extra parts for your rwd car, ice melt, fire extinguisher, gas can with fuel, cat liter, jumper cables, snow shoes, good arctic gear, extra socks and shoes, pillow and blanket, knife, hatchet, cones, spare tire, stuff to change a tire, fix a flat in case your spare is flat, a emergency radio, walkie talkie, hand warmers, rope, a PSP, I might be forgetting something but that shoud be enough to keep you alive
Several pages, not a single mention of a snow brush... :D
Haha if I see California plates I run them into the ditch cause that's where there gonna end up, just helping to speed along the process lol jk.
jerrymrc
10-24-2011, 21:03
Haha if I see California plates I run them into the ditch cause that's where there gonna end up, just helping to speed along the process lol jk.
Just wanted to quote this for the masses even though I still could pull it up after you deleted it. Many here might take offense to your open mouth/insert foot comment.
Myself I was born and raised in Oregon but I am eligible for pioneer plates since my family used to own 5500 acres that Ft Carson was started on.
Good luck with the comments from the transplants that came here escaping the laws that chained them. [Coffee] Time to go to bed but I can't wait to see the comments in the morning. ;)
gnihcraes
10-24-2011, 21:19
Ahhh never thought of that have to add it to the kits. Would salt work just as well?
Byte says no, but I've actually used regular salt and it worked well for traction. All I had in the truck at the time. (for putting on big game hides after dressing them out)
Larger rock salt I would think works well too. Hard to keep in your car though as it would possibly cause rusting or staining issues, cat litter is cheap and should work great.
Just wanted to quote this for the masses even though I still could pull it up after you deleted it. Many here might take offense to your open mouth/insert foot comment.
Myself I was born and raised in Oregon but I am eligible for pioneer plates since my family used to own 5500 acres that Ft Carson was started on.
Good luck with the comments from the transplants that came here escaping the laws that chained them. [Coffee] Time to go to bed but I can't wait to see the comments in the morning. ;)
It was a joke, I'll be PC from here on out, your rules your site.
trlcavscout
10-24-2011, 21:31
It was a joke, I'll be PC from here on out, your rules your site.
Ya quit rippin on the people from kalifornia! Geez why you gotta be so mean [ROFL1]
glockedandloaded
10-24-2011, 23:58
A hot chick with big boobs I always stop to winch them out of the ditch, but if you don't have one of those you will need a shovel, extra clothes,tow rope, mre, cell phone, flash light, tools, tire chains, AAA membership, firewood, tent, water, oil, extra parts for your rwd car, ice melt, fire extinguisher, gas can with fuel, cat liter, jumper cables, snow shoes, good arctic gear, extra socks and shoes, pillow and blanket, knife, hatchet, cones, spare tire, stuff to change a tire, fix a flat in case your spare is flat, a emergency radio, walkie talkie, hand warmers, rope, a PSP, I might be forgetting something but that shoud be enough to keep you alive
and protection dont forget protection.
and by that i mean condoms
jerrymrc
10-25-2011, 05:58
It was a joke, I'll be PC from here on out, your rules your site.
You broke no rules. I just think there are a few members that might take issue with ya when you try and push them off the road.[Flower]
Byte Stryke
10-25-2011, 06:19
Byte says no, but I've actually used regular salt and it worked well for traction. All I had in the truck at the time. (for putting on big game hides after dressing them out)
Larger rock salt I would think works well too. Hard to keep in your car though as it would possibly cause rusting or staining issues, cat litter is cheap and should work great.
well the problem with salt is that you will put it down on a nice bed of ice a few inches thick and then find yourself in a hole... that will refreeze if its cold enough.
ask me how I know this...
:D
BushMasterBoy
10-25-2011, 09:24
A really good sleeping bag is the best thing. I have read a few stories of folks freezing to death here in Colorado. Car gets stuck in deep snow...blizzard like conditions! They are found a few days later...
The other stuff will make it easier, like food & water. I like CB radios because the cell phone coverage is spotty and and the truckers will always discuss road conditions. I have done alot of camping in the mountains during the winter and it gets brutal. Stay warm!
tonantius
10-25-2011, 11:02
I have front wheel drive and normally carry nothing special around town, though I might bring a shovel and some kitty litter or sand.
When I drove a RWD vehicle I put a 50-lb bag of sand in the back over the the rear axle. I also carried a snow shovel and tire chains. Sometimes if the wife and son were along I would have them sit in the back of the van over the rear axle to get more weight over the wheel for traction.
I never stopped on upward facing inclines.
I noticed that Texas vehicles were as dangerous as California vehicles, but the Texans were driving 4WD and going into the ditch.
I am from Nebraska originally and they have ice storms in the late fall and big blizzards in the winter. Colorado weather is more friendly except in the high country which approaches Minnesota and Wisconsin-style weather.
Nothing is colder than standing in parade uniform at West Point in the Winter.
Fill your tank before a storm. Don't let it get past 1/2 full before refilling.
Very good advice. If you truly get stranded somewhere in bitter cold (in case you didn't notice, it can happen quickly here in Colorado... 70deg at 10:00am this morning and it will be 29 deg this time tomorrow morning) for an extended period of time that could be the difference between life and death.
I am from Nebraska originally and they have ice storms in the late fall and big blizzards in the winter. Colorado weather is more friendly except in the high country which approaches Minnesota and Wisconsin-style weather.
I grew up in Nebraska and can attest to this. I learned my winter skills in Nebraska and even delivered newspapers on the coldest morning in the state in history (44 below w/o the windchill) and I've been here 15yrs now and am amazed at how reasonable both the summer and winters are here in Colorado in comparison and equally amazing is how much more the residents bitch about said weather. [ROFL1]
trlcavscout
10-25-2011, 11:38
Very good advice. If you truly get stranded somewhere in bitter cold (in case you didn't notice, it can happen quickly here in Colorado... 70deg at 10:00am this morning and it will be 29 deg) for an extended period of time that could be the difference between life and death.
YES! When I was young my dad ran out of gas one morning when it was below zero, we had no blankets or extra clothing. It wasnt to far off the beaten path luckily but I spent a couple hours in the car freezing waiting on him to get more gas. Could have been real bad.
A hot chick with big boobs I always stop to winch them out of the ditch, but if you don't have one of those you will need a shovel, extra clothes,tow rope, mre, cell phone, flash light, tools, tire chains, AAA membership, firewood, tent, water, oil, extra parts for your rwd car, ice melt, fire extinguisher, gas can with fuel, cat liter, jumper cables, snow shoes, good arctic gear, extra socks and shoes, pillow and blanket, knife, hatchet, cones, spare tire, stuff to change a tire, fix a flat in case your spare is flat, a emergency radio, walkie talkie, hand warmers, rope, a PSP, I might be forgetting something but that shoud be enough to keep you alive
Agreed. If you have all that in your car you won't be able to fit inside and, therefore, won't get stuck on the road!
Like most people have said, size up your trip. Don't be in a hurry. If you're not leaving a populated road you can get by with the minimum essentials. If there's a storm and you're heading somewhere remote...well...don't go?
First: Understand how your car responds in the snow and ice. If you have an open differential, know the limitations and keep chains in the car as well as keep your gas tank full. Invest in a limited slip carrier!
Second: If you are traveling in cell phone coverage, keep your phone charged as well as keep a charger in the car. If you are traveling out of cell phone coverage area, let someone know your route and when to expect you (or, check on you).
Third: Keep blankets and/or sleeping bags in the car to keep warm. DO NOT drive without coat, hat, gloves, and winter shoes. My wife and kids drive me crazy with this one.
Fourth: Keep water for 2-3 days if you are traveling out of the city.
Fifth: Keep MREs for 2-3 days if you are traveling out of the city.
Finally: Jumper cables, ice scrapper, basic mechanics tools to change battery, alternator, etc., electrical tape, electrical connectors and fuses, foldable shovel, reflective vest., lighter & lighter fluid, backpack, fire starter, hatchet, compass, cord, head flashlight and flashlight. You should have a tool box with these items. Be sure to check your spare tire pressure regularly.
NOTE: Don’t leave your vehicle unless there is no other option and weather permits safe travel especially on the eastern plains during a blizzard.
funkfool
10-25-2011, 15:15
These work great... and cheap: Heat Sheets
http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/419/419132.jpg
http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/419132/adventure-medical-kits-heetsheets-emergency-survival-blanket-96-x-60-polymer-orange
StagLefty
10-25-2011, 15:43
Girl included ? [ROFL1]
I had a 1995 Z34 Monte carlo when I first moved here 11 years ago from California. I tell you what that car was amazing in the snow it was fun passing up big bad 4WD trucks on the highway. It had a very nice traction control set up on it. That is the only car I felt safe in, I tried making it go out of control in the snow and it would just correct itself, it also had decent power for a V6.
SuperiorDG
10-25-2011, 16:50
Girl included ? [ROFL1]
I think that's his kid.
I think that's his kid.
They're all someone's kid... [Tooth]
Snowing at my place now. Maybe an inch accumulated but getting heavier by the minute...
StagLefty
10-25-2011, 18:59
I think that's his kid.
They're all someone's kid... [Tooth]
Whose kid ? That's the pic on the Midway site
the Texans were driving 4WD and going into the ditch.
yep, it helps you get going but doesn't do jack to help you stop.
one time I was driving back into town from falcon on woodmen.
wicked blizzard, almost no visibility, and the winds were rocking my zuki back and forth. had my hazards on and was going slow, 15-20 mph.
every once in a while a big lifted 4x4 would zoom past me going more that twice as fast as I was. freakin' people think that 4x4 makes them immune to the weather. they are accidents waiting to happen.
jerrymrc
10-25-2011, 20:01
yep, it helps you get going but doesn't do jack to help you stop.
one time I was driving back into town from falcon on woodmen.
wicked blizzard, almost no visibility, and the winds were rocking my zuki back and forth. had my hazards on and was going slow, 15-20 mph.
every once in a while a big lifted 4x4 would zoom past me going more that twice as fast as I was. freakin' people think that 4x4 makes them immune to the weather. they are accidents waiting to happen.
I will agree. While I do own a 4X4 With a LS out back and a locker up front just in case, my grand prix with TC/ABS and a good set of studded snow tires is much better than the truck until the snow gets 1-1/2' or better.
It is actually boring to drive in the snow unless you try something really stupid. Since I have my morning drive to work almost by myself I have to take the TC off to have any fun at all. [Coffee]
"...just in case,...morning drive to work...
Makes me laugh when I occasionally read all you flat-landers pissin'-n-moanin' about the "4x4 man with little penis syndrome" to rationalize your front-range ride of choice. Bring your little two-wheeler's over and try my cold-season commute...you'll be scrubbin' your own s**t-stains off the front-seat until the day you get rid of it. Not to mention...you would have zero shot on some days...none. I'll take a true 4x4 all-day long, year-round for my life-style, I have no option.
[Beer]
Not scratchin' on you at all Jerry, just piling-in here for fun. But...man...for some of you your "just in case" is sometimes my basic 0530 cruise into the office 3-4 days a week. In a two wheeler?...f**k...not even a consideration...my penis size and occasional stupidity excluded. [LOL]
Byte Stryke
10-25-2011, 21:08
Makes me laugh when I occasionally read all you flat-landers pissin'-n-moanin' about the "4x4 man with little penis syndrome" to rationalize your front-range ride of choice. Bring your little two-wheeler's over and try my cold-season commute...you'll be scrubbin' your own s**t-stains off the front-seat until the day you get rid of it. Not to mention...you would have zero shot on some days...none. I'll take a true 4x4 all-day long, year-round for my life-style, I have no option.
[Beer]
Not scratchin' on you at all Jerry, just piling-in here for fun. But...man...for some of you your "just in case" is sometimes my basic 0530 cruise into the office 3-4 days a week. In a two wheeler?...f**k...not even a consideration...my penis size and occasional stupidity excluded. [LOL]
I think he was referring more to the bolt-on-posers that lift their pavement princesses to impressive heights only to never leave the parking lot that believe they are now invincible due to their ground clearance.
in a snow storm one year, I seriously pulled a ford expedition from the median on 470 while driving for APT... it had cali plates.
when i got it back on its wheels and out of the median I asked her where we were taking it. Her reply was "To the dealership! I Had it in four wheel drive and when I hit the brakes it didn't help at all!"
[Bang]
argonstrom
10-25-2011, 21:22
I have my friend, Bob and a 5 gal water jug (insulated with part of a thick foam sleeping pad).
That's all one should need, and even then the water is just for Bob to make pee, just incase I have to drink it Discovery Channel-style because walking to 7-11 may be too rough.
You're asking about basic survival right?
If you mean recovery stuff to help you out if you get stuck, get a hitch, and a big 'ol wench to push you out of the ditch. That'll get you out of just about everything if you know how to use her, assuming the 7-11 isn't too far away.
jerrymrc
10-25-2011, 21:48
Makes me laugh when I occasionally read all you flat-landers pissin'-n-moanin' about the "4x4 man with little penis syndrome" to rationalize your front-range ride of choice. Bring your little two-wheeler's over and try my cold-season commute...you'll be scrubbin' your own s**t-stains off the front-seat until the day you get rid of it. Not to mention...you would have zero shot on some days...none. I'll take a true 4x4 all-day long, year-round for my life-style, I have no option.
[Beer]
Not scratchin' on you at all Jerry, just piling-in here for fun. But...man...for some of you your "just in case" is sometimes my basic 0530 cruise into the office 3-4 days a week. In a two wheeler?...f**k...not even a consideration...my penis size and occasional stupidity excluded. [LOL]
You have to next morning to explain yourself since I am trying to understand where you got the flat-lander/penis thing out of what I posted?
You have to next morning to explain yourself since I am trying to understand where you got the flat-lander/penis thing out of what I posted?
I'm not going to pass this test...what is the penalty? [Tooth]
jerrymrc
10-26-2011, 15:33
I'm not going to pass this test...what is the penalty? [Tooth]
I am just wondering what you were smoking when you posted that.
jerrymrc
10-27-2011, 20:22
Did not mean to scare everyone off. [Coffee] I am a nice guy. I am sure a couple of members can vouch for me.;)
glockedandloaded
10-27-2011, 21:04
I have my friend, Bob and a 5 gal water jug (insulated with part of a thick foam sleeping pad).
That's all one should need, and even then the water is just for Bob to make pee, just incase I have to drink it Discovery Channel-style because walking to 7-11 may be too rough.
You're asking about basic survival right?
If you mean recovery stuff to help you out if you get stuck, get a hitch, and a big 'ol wench to push you out of the ditch. That'll get you out of just about everything if you know how to use her, assuming the 7-11 isn't too far away.
im new to Colorado. how do you push your self outta a ditch with a winch ? [Coffee]
Zundfolge
10-27-2011, 21:08
im new to Colorado. how do you push your self outta a ditch with a winch ? [Coffee]
Easy, you get her to push while you ease on the gas ... then later you have her fix you a sandwich.
[Beer]
(note that TheInternet used an e not an i ;) )
im new to Colorado. how do you push your self outta a ditch with a winch ? [Coffee]
With a Wheel Winch. Duh.
Oh yeah, I've got my high lift jack strapped into my truck now; and I just bought a 4"x25' tow strap tonight. I need some shackles now though...
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