gangs

[trlcavscout]

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[Elhuero]

gangs would not be a problem in this country if self defense were decriminalized.

[cofi]

is it soooo hard to copy and paste??

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FBI Says Gangs Infiltrating the US Military
October 24, 2011 Military.com | Bryant Jordan
The U.S. military is facing a "significant criminal threat" from gangs, including prison and biker gangs, whose members have found their way into the ranks, according to an FBI-led investigation.
Some gang members get into the military to escape the streets, but then end up reconnecting once in, while others target the services specifically for the combat and weapons training, the National Gang Intelligence Center says in a just-released 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment/Emerging Trends. (http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment)
Whatever the reasons, it's a bad mix.
""Gang members with military training pose a unique threat to law enforcement personnel because of their distinctive weapons and combat training skills and their ability to transfer these skills to fellow gang members," the report states. Gang members have been reported in every branch of the armed forces, though a large proportion of them have been affiliated with the Army, the Army Reserves or Army National Guard, it says.

The gang report is the third by the NGIC since 2005 and includes the most information yet on gangs in the military. The 2005 report made no mention of gang members in the armed forces, while the 2009 report devoted two paragraphs to the problem and listed 19 gangs said to include military-trained members.
The NGIC is a multi-agency operation -- federal, state and local – headed up by the FBI to bring together intelligence on gangs and gang activity.
The latest report devotes four pages to the problem and lists about 50 gangs with members with military backgrounds.
In the past three years, it states, law enforcement officials in more than 100 jurisdictions have encountered, detained or arrested a gang member who was on active-duty or a former servicemember.
Younger gang members, who do not have arrest records, are reportedly making attempts to join the military, and also attempting to conceal any gang affiliation, including tattoos, during the recruitment process.
And given the large U.S. military footprint overseas, gangs and gang dependents have found their way onto bases from Japan to Germany and Afghanistan and Iraq, where the center recorded instances of gang graffiti on military vehicles.
The report also specifically relates the 2010 cases of three former Marines arrested in Los Angeles for selling illegal assault weapons the Florencia 13 gang, and a U.S. Navy SEAL charged in Colorado with smuggling military-issued machine guns and other weapons from Iraq and Afghanistan into the U.S.
"Gang members armed with high-powered weapons and knowledge and expertise acquired from employment in law enforcement, corrections or the military may pose an increasing nationwide threat, as they employ these tactics and weapons against law enforcem4nt officials, rival gang members and civilians," the NGIC report says.
The NGIC assessment is not the first to look at the rising problems of gang members in the military. The Army's Criminal Investigation Division has done a number of them over the years. It found the number of investigations of gang-related violent crimes rising to 9 in 2005, after several years of decline, with just 3 the year before.
Most Soldiers found linked to gangs are junior enlisted members, CID found.
"Overall, military communities continue to be a more stable, secure and lawful environment than their civilian counterparts, especially given recent access control and other security enhancements," Army CID concluded.




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[Colorado_Outback]

It should be a crime to be a known gang member and enlisted. Period.

[sniper7]

It should be a crime to be a known gang member and enlisted. Period.

no way. they can enlist but must they must wear British style redcoats and lead the way into all battles, unarmed!

[ChunkyMonkey]

If DHS says its not a threat, then don't worry about it. The right wing extremists however is something you all need to worry about! [Rant1]

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FBI Says Gangs Infiltrating the US Military
October 24, 2011 Military.com | Bryant Jordan
The U.S. military is facing a "significant criminal threat" from gangs, including prison and biker gangs, whose members have found their way into the ranks, according to an FBI-led investigation.
Some gang members get into the military to escape the streets, but then end up reconnecting once in, while others target the services specifically for the combat and weapons training, the National Gang Intelligence Center says in a just-released 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment/Emerging Trends. (http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment)
Whatever the reasons, it's a bad mix.
""Gang members with military training pose a unique threat to law enforcement personnel because of their distinctive weapons and combat training skills and their ability to transfer these skills to fellow gang members," the report states. Gang members have been reported in every branch of the armed forces, though a large proportion of them have been affiliated with the Army, the Army Reserves or Army National Guard, it says.

The gang report is the third by the NGIC since 2005 and includes the most information yet on gangs in the military. The 2005 report made no mention of gang members in the armed forces, while the 2009 report devoted two paragraphs to the problem and listed 19 gangs said to include military-trained members.
The NGIC is a multi-agency operation -- federal, state and local – headed up by the FBI to bring together intelligence on gangs and gang activity.
The latest report devotes four pages to the problem and lists about 50 gangs with members with military backgrounds.
In the past three years, it states, law enforcement officials in more than 100 jurisdictions have encountered, detained or arrested a gang member who was on active-duty or a former servicemember.
Younger gang members, who do not have arrest records, are reportedly making attempts to join the military, and also attempting to conceal any gang affiliation, including tattoos, during the recruitment process.
And given the large U.S. military footprint overseas, gangs and gang dependents have found their way onto bases from Japan to Germany and Afghanistan and Iraq, where the center recorded instances of gang graffiti on military vehicles.
The report also specifically relates the 2010 cases of three former Marines arrested in Los Angeles for selling illegal assault weapons the Florencia 13 gang, and a U.S. Navy SEAL charged in Colorado with smuggling military-issued machine guns and other weapons from Iraq and Afghanistan into the U.S.
"Gang members armed with high-powered weapons and knowledge and expertise acquired from employment in law enforcement, corrections or the military may pose an increasing nationwide threat, as they employ these tactics and weapons against law enforcem4nt officials, rival gang members and civilians," the NGIC report says.
The NGIC assessment is not the first to look at the rising problems of gang members in the military. The Army's Criminal Investigation Division has done a number of them over the years. It found the number of investigations of gang-related violent crimes rising to 9 in 2005, after several years of decline, with just 3 the year before.
Most Soldiers found linked to gangs are junior enlisted members, CID found.
"Overall, military communities continue to be a more stable, secure and lawful environment than their civilian counterparts, especially given recent access control and other security enhancements," Army CID concluded.




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On my phone yes [Beer]

[glock21]

Travis and I like working at ghetto bars with lil wanna be bangers lol.

[trlcavscout]

Travis and I like working at ghetto bars with lil wanna be bangers lol.


Especially when theirs multiple gangs and only one of us [ROFL1] I think churches are worse [M2] But I wish their was some work right now, I need the $$$$ even if it was a church. I still havent replaced the wifes hubcap after that night on Morrison rd.

[KevDen2005]

It should be a crime to be a known gang member and enlisted. Period.


I would agree with this. I feel that military service is something that should be privileged, not any form of punishment or just allowable by any low life on earth.

Plus this info is old. June 2001 I got this briefing from drill sergeants during that first two week period where all you do is sit in classrooms. So they knew it then and informed me for the first time.

[KevDen2005]

Also, another reason why I always liked belonging to specialty units. I found that the low lifes didn't want to do anything than the bare minimum. The specialty organizations always had people that wanted to be there.

[Inconel710]

Yep, old news. I heard stories back in the early 90's about gangs and why you should stay off aircraft carriers. One more reason I'm glad I joined the submarine service.

[KevDen2005]

Yep, old news. I heard stories back in the early 90's about gangs and why you should stay off aircraft carriers. One more reason I'm glad I joined the submarine service.


I wasn't in the Navy so is there something special about Carriers versus Submarines when it comes to gangs?

[Elhuero]

I wasn't in the Navy so is there something special about Carriers versus Submarines when it comes to gangs?


well, I wasn't in the navy.

but generally you have to be smarter, more disciplined and a basically better sailor to wear the dolphins.

weeds out the riff raff

[jerrymrc]

There were gang members in the Military way before this. I remember one day in 1982 very clearly to this day.

[AirbornePathogen]

There were gang members in the Military way before this. I remember one day in 1982 very clearly to this day.

Absolutely, this is not a new threat. But when the Army is hurting for people, and lowers its standards...

[Mick-Boy]

The military is a cross section of society. you're always going to have that bottom 10%.

Even HSLD units have scumbags. They may be a fitter, smarter scumbag but they're still scumbags.

[Ronin13]

By the way, it is a crime to be affiliated with a gang, according to AR 601-210 it is contrary to enlistment standards to be affiliated with any gang or criminal enterprise. If found you are still in a gang you will be punished by UCMJ for falsified enlistment.

Now, I knew several gang members while I served, two were SoCal Bloods (or whatever) and one was a prospect for the Washington Chapter of the Hell's Angels. We also had two full on AB guys in one of our Forward Support Companies that probably had welts on their tongues because their First Sergeant was black. They're everywhere, hiding among those who all wear the exact same thing. It's unavoidable and I never saw one get a Court Martial for still being tied to a gang. They do however not allow gang affiliated tattoos and racist tattoos- the AB guys were smart and didn't have any obvious racists tats, although one did have the Algiz (looks like an upside down peace symbol) on his neck that is common AB affiliated ink but is a Nordic symbol as well so they can't discriminate against that.

[Gcompact30]

This is old news, gangs have always been in the military....


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[Mtn.man]

I still remain The 1 Man Gang.

[Inconel710]

I wasn't in the Navy so is there something special about Carriers versus Submarines when it comes to gangs?

Size for one. 6000 crew versus 120 and 1000ft long versus 330ft. The rumors back then said that if you went to a carrier, watch out for gangs because they recreated their 'hoods' onboard. A carrier is so big, there are parts that don't get visited very often so they fester.

Second - it's a whole lot easier to get pushed off the fantail of a carrier, than it is to be shoved out the escape trunk of a submarine! [ROFL1]

[trlcavscout]

Absolutely, this is not a new threat. But when the Army is hurting for people, and lowers its standards...


They arent hurting that bad, they wouldnt take me back when I tried last year over a BS med thing and now with the cut backs.