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theskalickys
11-01-2011, 15:53
I was looking today at a Zombie Training Camp: http://www.zombiesurvivalcourse.com/
As a Zombie Enthusiast, I thought this was pretty cool. I would love to run something like this one day (not for a full time job) but just for a once a year thing. Other than I think you would have to do some screening.. to not get crazies.
Anyway I came to their points of what you learn and I stopped at: Acquire transportation (hotwire)
This is something I have never had to do and really do not know what I would do, especially on newer cars with all this anti theft/security stuff. I think it would be cool to learn and sweet for others to know, in case of an emergency. However I think you would run into issues that you are teaching people how to steal cars.. Plus who is going to let you hotwire a newer car?
Man now I want to know how.. anyone want to let me try on their car? LOL
DANGERTASTIC!
11-01-2011, 16:09
First you rip the column cover off, then you yank the wiring cluster down.
Grab the blue and red wire an touch them together, after it starts you twist the two together and drive away.
No man it dont work like it does in the movies.
We had to use a screwdriver on a friends K-5 Blazer, it was a 1980.
I dont think the newer stuff you can use the same method.
In a Zombie apocalypse, I would count on keys being in the ignition...in most vehicles
that and most cars have a steering column lock that is requires the key to unlock... this is pretty hard to get around i did it once in my 91 chevy pickup and that was only because I could not figure out how to get the damn thing back together when i was fixing the tilt steering.
never again will I tear into a steering column they are the devil.
SideShow Bob
11-01-2011, 17:04
It is a lot easier than you would think even with a column lock. But because of legal and liability reasons I will not go into details.
Delfuego
11-01-2011, 17:13
You guys have never heard of an "immobilizer" have you? It is part of almost all new cars. It will throw an "immobilizer" code via the vehicle's computer and you wont be able to start it.
If you don't believe me just try it on any vehicle made in the last 10 years. It's Fun! Just be prepared to tow it to the dealer and shell out $150-$200 for them to clear the code before the vehicle will start again.
Some new vehicles will throw and "immobilizer" code just by removing the battery completely.
Don't believe me? Try it yourself....
This thread is ridiculous.... Zombies??? Really?? Get a life (literally)...
SideShow Bob
11-01-2011, 17:26
You guys have never heard of an "immobilizer" have you? It is part of almost all new cars. It will throw an "immobilizer" code via the vehicle's computer and you wont be able to start it.
If you don't believe me just try it on any vehicle made in the last 10 years. It's Fun! Just be prepared to tow it to the dealer and shell out $150-$200 for them to clear the code before the vehicle will start again.
Some new vehicles will throw and "immobilizer" code just by removing the battery completely.
Don't believe me? Try it yourself....
This thread is ridiculous.... Zombies??? Really?? Get a life (literally)...
Get a clue, zombie attack is just a euphemism for a SHTF situation.
And during such an attack I am sure that most of the zombies are not going to be calling on star (if they are still up and operating) to send an immobilizer
code to their missing vehicles.
And most of us would be going for the heavy duty military type vehicles instead of the bemmers, caddys or fluffy H2s.
that and most cars have a steering column lock that is requires the key to unlock... this is pretty hard to get around i did it once in my 91 chevy pickup and that was only because I could not figure out how to get the damn thing back together when i was fixing the tilt steering.
never again will I tear into a steering column they are the devil.
The older chebby tilts are easy - On the left side of the column where the turn signal switch is a funky little spring that needs a little manipulating...or so I heard. http://www.greaserlee.com/smilies/devil.gif
You guys have never heard of an "immobilizer" have you? It is part of almost all new cars. It will throw an "immobilizer" code via the vehicle's computer and you wont be able to start it.
If you don't believe me just try it on any vehicle made in the last 10 years. It's Fun! Just be prepared to tow it to the dealer and shell out $150-$200 for them to clear the code before the vehicle will start again.
Some new vehicles will throw and "immobilizer" code just by removing the battery completely.
Don't believe me? Try it yourself....
This thread is ridiculous.... Zombies??? Really?? Get a life (literally)...
Yeah, newer vehicles never get stollen. [Poke]
Bypassing a transponder isn't rocket science, and they aren't standard on most vehicles.
theskalickys
11-01-2011, 19:08
This is my thought newer vehicles get stolen all the time. Hopefully in a Zombie situation people would leave there keys in their cars, but if not and you had to get out of somewhere I believe it would be a good thing to know. Just even if you were driving in the mountains, camped out and forgot your keys and your spare is not where you thought it would be.. Yeah you could camp out for a while, but having the knowledge to hotwire your own vehicle could be a life saver.
Once again I don't know anything about this and do not believe anything I see on Youtube or most other sites. I own tools to unlock vehicles and houses so that my friends can call me when they are locked out. Worked really well when my wife's friend lost the keys to the house she was house-sitting with dogs. Have unlocked many new car doors with higher security systems. Pretty easy when the tools are labeled by manufacturer and a guide.
I do not know any toolkit to hotwire cars or some "Gone in 60 seconds" air key tool. (That was pretty cool though) Also with most vehicles having a chip in their key makes things more tuff. Although I have found most vehicles still work 100% with a un-chipped cut key.
I would love to take a hot-wiring class...
hammer03
11-01-2011, 19:17
Just look for the bodies lining the street, search for keys with a fob, start hitting the lock or alarm buttons and look for what goes off... No need to get complicated.
Cars pre-computers may not be as easy as the movies make them look, but they sure aren't difficult either...
BushMasterBoy
11-01-2011, 19:54
It would be easy to do if you have a schematic of the wiring of the car. There probably is a way to fool the anti-theft devices too.
I googled this:
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Hot_Wire_Your_Car
you can find more if you use a search engine...
I happen to know where I can get lock smith books for most every vehicle made since like 1979. Each vehicle has a diagram showing where the lock bars are and which tool to use. Sure would be a lot to lug around though!
Great-Kazoo
11-01-2011, 23:24
Hypothetically a slide hammer may assist in removal of the lock unit from a steering column.
Again this is info that's available online for anyone to access.
I happen to know where I can get lock smith books for most every vehicle made since like 1979. Each vehicle has a diagram showing where the lock bars are and which tool to use. Sure would be a lot to lug around though!Be something nice to have on DVD.
hammer03
11-02-2011, 18:15
or on pdf, that you can store on your phone... and would be searchable
I am pretty sure everyone knows where dealerships keep their keys. They make it too easy, no need to hot wire anymore.
It is a lot easier than you would think even with a column lock. But because of legal and liability reasons I will not go into details.
Two words. Dent puller.
on newer cars getting into a car and getting the ignition to turn are the easy parts. getting the computer to agree is a whole other problem.
Great-Kazoo
05-10-2012, 15:21
on newer cars getting into a car and getting the ignition to turn are the easy parts. getting the computer to agree is a whole other problem.
This applies to cars with keys that are chipped. So anything older than 05ish is an easy unit to drive away in, IF needed in an emergency and you or your neighbor had misplaced their keys.
cwripinz
05-10-2012, 16:44
Just look for the bodies lining the street, search for keys with a fob, start hitting the lock or alarm buttons and look for what goes off... No need to get complicated.
^^^^ This! ^^^^
No fuss... no muss! Heck... bodies in houses probably have cars in the garage!!
gcrookston
05-10-2012, 17:05
Two words. Dent puller.
Those aren't the two words I learned when I was repossessing trucks... they were:
slap
hammer
http://images.craigslist.org/5L35Ff5H93Ec3Mc3J4c4nea2486695d9f18d4.jpg
Scanker19
05-10-2012, 17:51
The keys will be in the sun visor.
In High school I lost the keys to my 66 ford truck. I drove it around for a few months "hot-wired." That was fun. I think an older car or truck would be easier to fix as well.
This applies to cars with keys that are chipped. So anything older than 05ish is an easy unit to drive away in, IF needed in an emergency and you or your neighbor had misplaced their keys.
They started chipping keys in the late 90s.
Great-Kazoo
05-10-2012, 19:42
They started chipping keys in the late 90s.
I'm not tagging a benz just something local to get from here - there.
You're really not "Hot wiring" a vehicle once the ig switch is yanked. Merely utilizing other means than the original key.
Old 60-70 stangs (as most fords) were great for "joy riding" around in. quick jumper off the solenoid and vrooooommmmmmmmmm
Her 99 ranger was chipped. my 03 silverado wasn't.
Great-Kazoo
05-10-2012, 21:43
Her 99 ranger was chipped. my 03 silverado wasn't.
With the right person, no vehicle is safe. Which leaves 99.98% of the members here out.
Some of the Camrys and Accords from the late 90s were chipped too. Easiest cars to steal are pre-1978. The Japanese and German car makers were very innovative just in preventing the use of Slim Jims to open doors and different makes require specific opening tools.
But . . . if you have a "Hide-A-Key" magnetic box or leave your doors unlocked with a spare key in the console your car is getting stolen regardless of manufacturer's countermeasures.
With the right person, no vehicle is safe. Which leaves 99.98% of the members here out.
Agreed. One of the easiest cars I've ever had to open was a ranger. Hardest was a jetta.
Household locks and such are easy but I've been doing them for 10 years.
Agree that a little looking around should yield a hide-a-key. I've also Pulled apart steering columns which would work.
I've had to Hotwire my jeep a few times. It's pretty easy with a single wire HEI system which almost all older Chevys had
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