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Dear Amy: When our family gets together for any holiday, my niece's husband has to bring a gun with him.
He has a permit. He thinks his permit gives him per-
-mission to carry a loaded gun wherever he goes. He even takes it to church.
I have requested that he leave the gun at home when coming to my house.
He says that if he cannot bring his gun then his family won't come to our home. There will be small children at the house, but he says it's OK because his kids are fine with it.
Should I let him bring the gun or tell them they need to stay home?
Dear Battle: I shared your letter with a spokesperson for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who responded with this statistic: "A gun in any home is four times more likely to be used to kill or injure a loved one in an unintentional or accidental shooting than it is to be used for self-defense (bradycampaign.org (http://bradycampaign.org/))."
This man may believe that he is somehow protecting his family, but by carrying a loaded gun he is placing them (and anyone else in the home) at risk.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 4,000 children and teens are wounded or killed in unintentional shootings every year.
Your niece's husband may have a legal right to carry his gun, but you also have a right to maintain a weapons-free household.
http://www.denverpost.com/askamy
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Bailey Guns
11-05-2011, 12:26
Dear Amy:
You're a dumbass.
Well, she's right. The lady has the right to say "no" and he has the right not to come.
I think the thing that bothers me the most is the bullshxt Brady statistics that have been proven wrong OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 12:34
Well, she's right. The lady has the right to say "no" and he has the right not to come.
He has the right to carry, but she has the right to say not in her house. Just cause you have a permit does not make you a good gun owner. If he didnt tell anyone, they shouldnt know. Sounds like he wants to stir the pot. I don't like people to carry guns in my house.
StagLefty
11-05-2011, 12:36
I don't like people to carry guns in my house.
Agreed-they should be holstered [Coffee]
SuperiorDG
11-05-2011, 12:40
People who ask questions like that from people like that Amy lady are only looking to get their beliefs re-confirmed. She would not ask it to someone that might tell her she is wrong. She might as well be taking to the mirror, but I guess the paper specks louder.
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 12:40
Agreed-they should be holstered [Coffee]
Deleted cause some members are Dumb and I don't need DHS at my house. POS[Beer]
I confiscate them and do not give them back. Best way to increase your collection!
speaking of which, open carry BBQ at my house! BYOG!
stevelkinevil
11-05-2011, 12:56
God I tasted bile when reading that. Hard to say whether the guy is stirring the pot or this woman is just a busy body, im leaning toward busy body.
People who ask questions like that from people like that Amy lady are only looking to get their beliefs re-confirmed. She would not ask it to someone that might tell her she is wrong. She might as well be taking to the mirror, but I guess the paper specks louder.
Yep, this.
I agree that a person should have the right to require "no guns in my house, please", it's their house after all. But what I want to know is why does she even know? Does the carrier advertise the fact that he's packin' a Roscoe and brag about it? Does he handle it and show it off? If he's running his yap about carrying, or worse yet, handling the thing or passing it around, then IMO he has no business carrying to begin with.
Concealed means concealed! I carry in peoples houses all the time myself, but nobody knows about it and I intend to keep it that way. It's not something that needs to be discussed or shown off. If I should need it, I have it. If I don't need it, well, I still have it. No different than a pair of nail clippers to me, and it shouldn't be. Although the nail clippers are more likely to get used or asked about.
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 13:12
I agree that a person should have the right to require "no guns in my house, please", it's their house after all. But what I want to know is why does she even know? Does the carrier advertise the fact that he's packin' a Roscoe and brag about it? Does he handle it and show it off? If he's running his yap about carrying, or worse yet, handling the thing or passing it around, then IMO he has no business carrying to begin with.
Concealed means concealed! I carry in peoples houses all the time myself, but nobody knows about it and I intend to keep it that way. It's not something that needs to be discussed or shown off. If I should need it, I have it. If I don't need it, well, I still have it. No different than a pair of nail clippers to me, and it shouldn't be. Although the nail clippers are more likely to get used or asked about.
That guy is just stirring the pot. He is just being an ass.
Sharpienads
11-05-2011, 13:21
Did you guys consider that the writer is an absolute b***h so the niece's husband uses the fact that he carries a gun as an excuse to not go to their house?
Maybe the guy is just using it to his advantage. Sounds like a smart guy to me.
Most of my close family knows that I carry. Not all of them though. So I know there are a few aunts that would have an issue with it if they knew, but they don't know, so it hasn't been an issue.
If this guy carries concealed, all he has to do is say, "I decided not to bring my gun this Thanksgiving. I've done an occular pat down of all the guests and determined them all to be safe. Let's eat some ham!" Then she'll be placated, and he'll still be carrying. Sounds like an easy fix to me, but they're both clearly trying to make a point.
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 13:36
Did you guys consider that the writer is an absolute b***h so the niece's husband uses the fact that he carries a gun as an excuse to not go to their house?
Maybe the guy is just using it to his advantage. Sounds like a smart guy to me.
He is prob some young punk kid. [ROFL1]
Sharpienads
11-05-2011, 13:42
He is prob some young punk kid. [ROFL1]
Probably. You know how those young whippersnappers are these days.
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 13:47
Probably. You know how those young whippersnappers are these days.
Dam whippersnappers,you listen to that Rock and Roll music I bet.
Drilldov2.0
11-05-2011, 13:55
I don't have a problem with anyone carrying in my house, at my work or anywhere. If I find out that you are carrying, you have to let me shoot it. That is my only rule.
If I were the guy, I simply would not go. I have no problem with anyone who does not want a weapon in their own house, that is their own right.
As far as Amy is concerned, the fact she cited Brady bull**** tells me all I need to know about her.
Did you guys consider that the writer is an absolute b***h so the niece's husband uses the fact that he carries a gun as an excuse to not go to their house?
Maybe the guy is just using it to his advantage. Sounds like a smart guy to me.
[Party1] Winner Winner Chicken Dinner [Party1]
I took the writer to be female. Her house, her rules.
How in the Hell did the Brady Bunch come up with that incredible conclusion? [Roll1] If this is true 1 gun x 4 x X# of guns = I'm now afraid of going home tonight. :D What if Bubba doesn't "love" these people? Are they then safe? With their rational, guns only kill loved ones.
Zundfolge
11-05-2011, 15:37
Intellectual equivalence
Dear Amy, my sister insists on bringing her black boyfriend to family gatherings. My Grandmother doesn't like ni***rs in the house and has asked her not to bring him anymore, so my sister says if he isn't welcome she won't come over for Christmas. Should I tell her to lighten up and show up without him?
Dear reader, I shared your letter with a spokesman from the Ku Klux Klan and he responded with the following statistic; "Most violent crimes in America are committed by young black males." So your sister may think she's in love but in reality its just a little jungle fever and once she gets tired of being abused she'll settle down with a nice white boy. Just be thankful he's not a Jew.
Of course, for all we know, the guy in question may be insisting on carrying an AR or a shotgun over his shoulder on a sling.
you know, i have a lot of anti gun people in my family/friends. i always as them what they think would go through their mind if a guy or group of guys broke in with a weapon and you had nothing. nada. zilch. absolutely no chance whatsoever. oh and imagine youve got a child at home with you that you now have no way to protect. what say you now?
usually, they have no response. you see, anti gun people are weird in that they only think about guns in peace time when everything is all nice and good. they wonder, why does anyone need a gun? most pro gun people think about worst case scenarios and would rather be prepared their entire life for the unlikely versus become a statistic. of course you wouldn't NEED a gun if no one ever got murdered, robbed, assaulted, etc. im pretty sure anyone in who has been a victim had at least a moment of thinking "boy i really wish i had a gun right about now"
stevelkinevil
11-05-2011, 16:09
Ive said it 100 times to certain friends and family. Its better have and not need than to need and not have.
you know, i have a lot of anti gun people in my family/friends. i always as them what they think would go through their mind if a guy or group of guys broke in with a weapon and you had nothing. nada. zilch. absolutely no chance whatsoever. oh and imagine youve got a child at home with you that you now have no way to protect. what say you now?
usually, they have no response. you see, anti gun people are weird in that they only think about guns in peace time when everything is all nice and good. they wonder, why does anyone need a gun? most pro gun people think about worst case scenarios and would rather be prepared their entire life for the unlikely versus become a statistic. of course you wouldn't NEED a gun if no one ever got murdered, robbed, assaulted, etc. im pretty sure anyone in who has been a victim had at least a moment of thinking "boy i really wish i had a gun right about now"
And it's not always a break-in or home invasion to worry about. Lots of people get attacked when they're outside the house saying goodbye to someone who's leaving, and a couple of homies come out of nowhere to rob the whole bunch. And maybe even take Grandpa's nice new Caddy too.
Zundfolge
11-05-2011, 17:33
And it's not always a break-in or home invasion to worry about.
Actually that's the LAST thing you really have to worry about.
Often these people will say something dumb like "why do you think you'll need a gun at [x safe location]?" But since we don't have Star Trek style transporters yet you still have to move through the space between your home and [x safe location] maybe stopping for gas or some other reason along the way.
Just because Grandma lives in a very safe neighborhood and all your family members are kind, sane, non-violent people doesn't mean that you're not going to drive through da hood to get there (and ya know hood people do leave da hood occasionally).
spittoon
11-05-2011, 17:44
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention[Help] what a joke do we all have a Disease that need's to be controlled [Tooth]
SideShow Bob
11-05-2011, 17:52
I have a coat check at my house where guns can be stored during your visit. My 4 year old does it for tips.[Beer]
Am I the only one to catch this ? I hope you are smart enough to not allow a 4 year old to check the firearms along with the coats ! If you are, you are a total TARD !
brokenscout
11-05-2011, 21:31
Am I the only one to catch this ? I hope you are smart enough to not allow a 4 year old to check the firearms along with the coats ! If you are, you are a total TARD !
If you did not get the joke than you are a Dumbass. My kids know about guns, they have been shooting, i'm going to educate my kids about guns. You don;t know me?
NitroxBoss
11-05-2011, 21:37
Dear Amy:
GFY.
He probably brandished when she mentioned the Brady bunch.
newracer
11-05-2011, 21:41
Maybe the guy doesn't really want to go so he makes sure she knows about it.
mcantar18c
11-05-2011, 21:50
I've told certain select family members that I carry so they wouldn't invite me over or ask me to do stuff for em anymore...
Sharpienads
11-05-2011, 23:25
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention[Help] what a joke do we all have a Disease that need's to be controlled [Tooth]
Yeah, I've never understand what the CDC and guns have to do with each other. Unless people are sneezing on their guns and then letting other people shoot them maybe?
The military also asks if you have guns now on their annual health assessments.
Byte Stryke
11-06-2011, 01:09
Am I the only one to catch this ? I hope you are smart enough to not allow a 4 year old to check the firearms along with the coats ! If you are, you are a total TARD !
I trust Little Byte carrying a loaded weapon more than I trust any adult you might find at a firing range or open shooting area...
I know I have taught him proper muzzle discipline and safety... before he turned 3.
mcantar18c
11-06-2011, 01:28
The military also asks if you have guns now on their annual health assessments.
Huh? What branch? Since when?
I just had my Army physical last week, there was a survey thing I had to fill out that wasn't there last time but there was nothing about guns on it.
Not that it matters anyway, all of the guns I've purchased were BOS-less private party sales and all of the guns I used to own were lost in a horrific boating accident.
Huh? What branch? Since when?
I just had my Army physical last week, there was a survey thing I had to fill out that wasn't there last time but there was nothing about guns on it.
Not that it matters anyway, all of the guns I've purchased were BOS-less private party sales and all of the guns I used to own were lost in a horrific boating accident.
Huh. I'll have to watch out for that. Hey you're takin off pretty soon aren't you?
Bailey Guns
11-06-2011, 05:21
Am I the only one to catch this ? I hope you are smart enough to not allow a 4 year old to check the firearms along with the coats ! If you are, you are a total TARD !
[Bang] SSB...your "Humor Meter" is seriously broken.
Yeah, I've never understand what the CDC and guns have to do with each other. Unless people are sneezing on their guns and then letting other people shoot them maybe?
Great. First it's trigger locks. Now we're gonna see guns require a BATFE/USDA approved sneeze-guard included with every sale.
The military also asks if you have guns now on their annual health assessments.
So are the government-supplied guns you get less dangerous than personally owned guns?
Sharpienads
11-06-2011, 05:43
It's one of the questions that the AF asks on the "WebHA" part of the PHA. I thought the Army did it too? Maybe not. I just decline to answer.
Rooskibar03
11-06-2011, 08:04
Actually I'd prefer if you not use your nail clippers in my house. You are more then welcome to use your gun should yhr need arise but nail clippers are meant for use in your bathroom only.
Nothing worse then the sound of nail clipping at the office.
I agree that a person should have the right to require "no guns in my house, please", it's their house after all. But what I want to know is why does she even know? Does the carrier advertise the fact that he's packin' a Roscoe and brag about it? Does he handle it and show it off? If he's running his yap about carrying, or worse yet, handling the thing or passing it around, then IMO he has no business carrying to begin with.
Concealed means concealed! I carry in peoples houses all the time myself, but nobody knows about it and I intend to keep it that way. It's not something that needs to be discussed or shown off. If I should need it, I have it. If I don't need it, well, I still have it. No different than a pair of nail clippers to me, and it shouldn't be. Although the nail clippers are more likely to get used or asked about.
brokenscout
11-06-2011, 09:43
I trust Little Byte carrying a loaded weapon more than I trust any adult you might find at a firing range or open shooting area...
I know I have taught him proper muzzle discipline and safety... before he turned 3.
When I was a kid I learned young how to handle firearms, teaching my kids the same. My 3 & 4 year old girls handle guns better than alot of adults. My 10 year old I would not trust wit a bb gun. Also I do not have a coat check,[Beer]
brokenscout
11-06-2011, 09:46
Huh? What branch? Since when?
I just had my Army physical last week, there was a survey thing I had to fill out that wasn't there last time but there was nothing about guns on it.
Not that it matters anyway, all of the guns I've purchased were BOS-less private party sales and all of the guns I used to own were lost in a horrific boating accident.
The Army did in 2007, I think its more for Mental Health, they are still wanting any soldiers at Carson to register your guns, and if you live on Post to put them in the Arms room.
The VA asks ALOT
mevshooter
11-06-2011, 10:16
A lot of it has to do with suicide scares.
My dad is the state Chaplain for the National Guard, and man, it's at least one death notification a month for suicide with a gun, sometimes up to 3.
NOT saying I agree with the policy of any branch of the armed forces to ask about your personal weapons, but this area of the Rocky Mountains has the highest suicide rate in the military out of any other zone.
However, a large amount of suicides don't involve any type of firearm, but I'm not going to get into that.
SideShow Bob
11-06-2011, 11:37
If you did not get the joke than you are a Dumbass. My kids know about guns, they have been shooting, i'm going to educate my kids about guns. You don;t know me?
You need to use smilies when making jokes or injecting humor, or some members get all butt hurt. [LOL]
And yes I missed the sarcasm/joke in that post. My bad.[Whacko]
brokenscout
11-06-2011, 12:46
You need to use smilies when making jokes or injecting humor, or some members get all butt hurt. [LOL]
And yes I missed the sarcasm/joke in that post. My bad.[Whacko]
You should be the new Sarcasm MOD[ROFL1][Beer][ROFL2]:)(Joke)
mcantar18c
11-06-2011, 17:14
Huh. I'll have to watch out for that. Hey you're takin off pretty soon aren't you?
8.5 days [UZI]
It's one of the questions that the AF asks on the "WebHA" part of the PHA. I thought the Army did it too? Maybe not. I just decline to answer.
Must be an AF only thing, or for some reason they aren't doing it on every physical, or something. Weird.
mcantar18c
11-06-2011, 17:17
The Army did in 2007, I think its more for Mental Health, they are still wanting any soldiers at Carson to register your guns, and if you live on Post to put them in the Arms room.
The VA asks ALOT
Hmm... maybe they ask it on the psych eval? Never had one of those.
I know they make you register your guns and store them on post... not happy about that.
KevDen2005
11-06-2011, 17:21
I passed by this post numerous times without opening it up. I wish I hadn't because now I am pissed off. This is ridiculous whether the Dear Amy column is being pc or not. I would respond exactly the same way the guy in the article did, if I can't bring my gun then my family won't be coming.
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