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My realtor showed up today to sign a contract and list my home. I was open carrying upon his arrival. He inspected the home, set the price, took pics, etc.. Before his departure, he asked me to remove all firearm related stuff from the home. Really?? He thought that having a few safes and gun related items visible in the home would be bad for business.. My response was go eff urself.. lol
Rooskibar03
05-09-2012, 18:14
I would have paid money to see the look on that guys face when you told him to pound sand.
Zundfolge
05-09-2012, 19:00
Just make sure all the guns and stuff are locked down tight. I had a handgun stolen during a real estate inspection (was likely the home inspector they hired ... he also stole some of my wife's prescription pain killers).
Tinelement
05-09-2012, 19:03
Totally not going against ya.
But, wouldn't you want your firearms out of the house if its going to be shown and you're not going to be there??
I know you said he said "bad for business" which I get.
I know when I sell my house all my toys are going out to storage.
Just a question for conversation!!
Poor realtor musta been sh*ting Tiffany cuff links to ask you that whislt you were OC!!! HAHAHA
DD977GM2
05-09-2012, 19:11
Just make sure all the guns and stuff are locked down tight. I had a handgun stolen during a real estate inspection (was likely the home inspector they hired ... he also stole some of my wife's prescription pain killers).
Id have been knockin some heads and then going to the cops. I hate theives.
TriggerHappy
05-09-2012, 19:13
My safe remained in my house the entire time it was listed, never heard a word from my realtor. I even had a Gadsden and gemtech flag on the wall. But I would recommend keeping them locked up tight.
I was always afraid I would shoot some dumbass that thought it would be okay to not call and let themselves in for another tour unannounced.
HBARleatherneck
05-09-2012, 19:21
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To be clear, i just listed the house.. Not moving out and leaving the safe there. And the whole reason for me having safes is to lockdown whatever isnt on my hip. I couldnt imagine any home in good ol America that doesnt have firearms in it.. If potential buyers are more concerned that there are a few safes rather than the house itself, I dont want them here anyway.
JohnTRourke
05-09-2012, 19:37
Realtors are a waste of oxygen.
They don't even know their own job.
I covered my safe with a sheet as well, one realtor told me to remove my mounts and bear rugs because buyers would find them offensive, she didn't get the listing!
DSB OUTDOORS
05-09-2012, 20:04
DUDE, sorry you have to sell!! If you need some help let me know!!
ChadAmberg
05-10-2012, 08:10
we had a showing yesterday. my safe is 1200 pounds empty. i have it covered with cloth and have the spoke handles off it. it looks like i am covering an antique armoire. i told my realtor, about my collection and we have allways been in the house for showings. until yesterday. this was the second showing to the same people. they didnt feel comfortable with us in the house. I read that as they didnt want to open drawers and cupboards with us there. so, i stood outside armed. then their realtor comes out, and wants to bs with me. i said, why arent you inside supervising the people??? her look was the deer in the head lights look. so, i am assuming she allways does that. i cant believe she would take on that kind of responsibility and leave a stranger in my house. dumbass wench.
Generally being in the house is a guaranteed way to make sure they won't buy the house though. Even on the property, since the buyers will feel bothered the entire time they're in your sight. I remember looking at houses years back and it didn't matter how nice the house was, if the owner was there, I'd get out as fast as possible.
Even the realtor has a chilling effect, they should give you a quick tour, then stay a room or two away from you, so you can have privacy to talk freely with the spouse.
It's an unfortunate reality. When we sold our last house, we made sure nothing of value was in the house, we simply took everything we didn't need that was valuable and stored it elsewhere, and kept things like meds and such in a bag we could easily grab from the bathroom and take with us in the car.
Funny story though: We sold our house back on the east coast. It sold in just a couple hours, and the first offer was more than we were asking for. Yeah, this was at the good time of the market. But, state laws and regulations said we couldn't even see the buyers until closing at the lawyers office. All because all home sellers are obviously racists, and if a minority happened to be buying the place, the seller would trash it before they left. WTF??
Realtors are a waste of oxygen.
They don't even know their own job.
Agree, most of them have no idea of the contract terms.
HBARleatherneck
05-10-2012, 10:25
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My guess is that the realtor wants the house to look as neutral as possible. No pentagrams, crosses, animal sacrifices or guns. :D
I would be concerned with the strangers looking at/casing the house.
Bake some bread or cookies. It makes the house smell like home and covers up the smell of cosmoline.
If you want to be alone in the house unsupervised, you can buy it.
If you want to be alone in the house unsupervised, you can buy it.
I like this. I've never sold a house (I've never owned one) but I never did understand the whole showing deal. I mean, how many people have had some Realtor show their house and then you come home and something is missing? I'm sorry but I'd rather not take that risk, even if all that was stolen was a pairing knife or something...
cwripinz
05-10-2012, 11:30
if You Want To Be Alone In The House Unsupervised, You Can Buy It.
^^^^ This! ^^^^
DD977GM2
05-10-2012, 11:47
Honestly I agree in some respects to ther realtor wanting items covered or taken down.
Not everyone is into hunting or firearms. If they see stuff like that, then there
is a good chance they will be uncomfortable for the showing and that
then changes their mind on wanting the house. If they feel comfortable and
feel that the house is "home" then there is a better chance of selling.
I wouldnt move my safe or take mounts down, but if I was desperate to sell, Id do what I could to make the selling that much easier.
Honestly I agree in some respects to ther realtor wanting items covered or taken down.
Not everyone is into hunting or firearms. If they see stuff like that, then there
is a good chance they will be uncomfortable for the showing and that
then changes their mind on wanting the house. If they feel comfortable and
feel that the house is "home" then there is a better chance of selling.
I wouldnt move my safe or take mounts down, but if I was desperate to sell, Id do what I could to make the selling that much easier.
I agree... sorry if I step on toes here, but for crying out loud! Common freaking sense! Okay great you want to make a stand and prove you're 2A friendly, good for you, but understand there are people out there who aren't pro-gun and don't think the way we do... it's a buyers market right now so you have to do what you have to do to sell the place. There are people out there that are uncomfortable around guns (unless you're a police officer) and it would be in your best interest to just stop crying and accept the fact that there are anti-gun idiots out there that buy houses too. I'm not saying I think contrary to you guys here, but some of the rhetoric on here kinda gets to be a little annoying at times with the whole "I look down on anti-gun folks" or what have you. I agree, people who are against guns are dumb and I don't like to associate with them, but please understand that they exist and like it or not their opinion of "guns are bad mmmkay" is no less valid than our opinion of "guns rock!" It's when they start to say "Let's rid the world of guns" and actually try to act on it is when they step over a line.
I agree... sorry if I step on toes here, but for crying out loud! Common freaking sense! Okay great you want to make a stand and prove you're 2A friendly, good for you, but understand there are people out there who aren't pro-gun and don't think the way we do... it's a buyers market right now so you have to do what you have to do to sell the place. There are people out there that are uncomfortable around guns (unless you're a police officer) and it would be in your best interest to just stop crying and accept the fact that there are anti-gun idiots out there that buy houses too. I'm not saying I think contrary to you guys here, but some of the rhetoric on here kinda gets to be a little annoying at times with the whole "I look down on anti-gun folks" or what have you. I agree, people who are against guns are dumb and I don't like to associate with them, but please understand that they exist and like it or not their opinion of "guns are bad mmmkay" is no less valid than our opinion of "guns rock!" It's when they start to say "Let's rid the world of guns" and actually try to act on it is when they step over a line.
I feel that asking me to rid my home of guns is stepping over the line. I live in the Mountains, it's not uncommon to find gun safes up here.
He was probably covering his a**. You don't know who is coming into your house to "look" at it, nor are background checks run beforehand. Do you want the possibility of a child molester or wannabe thug know which houses have firearms and that the house is open for a walk-thru? There are criminals who use the ruse of buying a home to scope it out for later shopping. When your house has a "for sale" sign on it, your neighbors get used to unknown cars and people at your home, would be buyers get to see your security setup, and a mental floorplan of your home.
I wouldn't get offended, just cover up your safe and gear with a blanket or something.
Zombie Steve
05-10-2012, 12:36
I'm a Realtor.
It's about two things - de-personalizing the house, and securing your valuables.
I don't care what it is - guns, moose mounts or your doll house collection... get it out of the house. Take your family photos off the wall. The more buyers are looking at you and the way you live, the less they're imagining themselves living there.
To my second point... if an agent wants to book a showing, you have no idea who their client is. Prescription drugs out of the medicine cabinet, guns out of the house or secured (I don't care if there's a safe, but you wouldn't believe how many guns lying out I've seen).
If you want to make sure your house doesn't sell... be there when potential buyers come through. It's a totally different experience going through the house when the owner is there, and it's never positive.
...and as far as Realtors go, I'm inclined to agree with some of the negative rap we get. The 80/20 rule applies to Realtors just like everywhere else.
I will say being self employed and never again having a boss is pretty freakin' cool. [Tooth]
I feel that asking me to rid my home of guns is stepping over the line. I live in the Mountains, it's not uncommon to find gun safes up here.
Just tell 'em it's your "medical supplies" safe...http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/images/smilies/silly.gifhttp://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/images/smilies/stoner.gif
HBARleatherneck
05-10-2012, 12:41
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Just tell 'em it's your "medical supplies" safe...http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/images/smilies/silly.gifhttp://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/images/smilies/stoner.gif
WIN.. Lmao
CO-SpAr72
05-10-2012, 13:15
Im sure the realtor is not trying to stomp on your 2A rights but is simply trying to impart knowledge on how best to sell your home quickly. The first thing a realtor is going to tell you when you want to list your home for sale is to de-clutter and de-personalize the home. If that offends you, leave the safe where it is. You may get lucky and a gun enthusiast will get a great idea for where to put his safe should he buy the home and your house may sit on the market for a year because you wanted to leave the safe where it was
spqrzilla
05-10-2012, 13:26
The realtor made a suggestion to increase the number of people who would feel comfortable in your home. The purpose of that suggestion was to increase the likelihood of selling your home at the best price.
Generating attitude about it is not a wise use of your time or attention.
Only did the house shopping thing once, and that was 10 years ago. But it never ceased to amaze me the condition some of the houses were in when we went through them.
Some looked like show houses that had been stripped of nearly all personal items, so you could see what the actual "house" looked like, and others looked like they'd just gotten a phone call that we were on the way, grabbed the kids and hauled ass out the back door.
We looked at one house that we couldn't even check out the basement because there were two or three big kennels in there with these humongous German Shepards in them, just raising Holy Hell and trying to get us. Yeah, that'll help sell the place quick.
Basically, what we took away from the experience, and what the realtor told us, is the best way to sell a house is to not only clean it top to bottom and every nook and cranny, fix every wart and problem, paint every detail, but take as much stuff out as you possibly can and store it. It needs to be as minimal inside as possible.
Prospective buyers want to see the HOUSE, the GARAGE, and the BASEMENT, etc., what it looks like, what shape it's in, what it needs and doesn't need. All of your personal stuff in there will only detract and distract, and make them lose interest quickly. Plus, you feel like you're intruding into someone's home, you feel like a burglar, sorta.
She told us the best way to sell your house quickly is to basically move out as much as you can, and clean/detail it as much as you can. I'm fucked, our house is so fulla shit there's no way I could ever clean it out enough to show it. I'd have to have the next house already bought so we could move in to it and then sell the old one.
CO-SpAr72
05-10-2012, 20:53
When we were trying to sell our old place the first thing our real estate told us to do was to remove as much of our stuff as possible. She felt so adamantly about this that she allowed us to store a large portion of our personal belongings in the basement of her house.
I feel that asking me to rid my home of guns is stepping over the line. I live in the Mountains, it's not uncommon to find gun safes up here.
You're trying to get rid of your home. But if you want to stick to your guns and just not sell, then whatever.
So...went to view a house. Called and made an appointment. Showed up and the realtor rang the doorbell. Entered and hollered. We looked around the main level for probably a good 10 - 15 minutes. Headed to the lower level to see a fully naked woman streak across the room.
A few guns sitting around would have been a welcome sight.
ChadAmberg
05-11-2012, 15:15
So...went to view a house. Called and made an appointment. Showed up and the realtor rang the doorbell. Entered and hollered. We looked around the main level for probably a good 10 - 15 minutes. Headed to the lower level to see a fully naked woman streak across the room.
A few guns sitting around would have been a welcome sight.
Pics? At least provide an address...
So...went to view a house. Called and made an appointment. Showed up and the realtor rang the doorbell. Entered and hollered. We looked around the main level for probably a good 10 - 15 minutes. Headed to the lower level to see a fully naked woman streak across the room.
Was she hot?
You're trying to get rid of your home. But if you want to stick to your guns and just not sell, then whatever.
Spoken like a true politician. Will NOT move out a few safes just so someone else isnt offended.
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