View Full Version : How bad do I need a Fullsize 1911?
The1andOnlyKC
12-02-2006, 13:19
So tell me?
i know how you feel, I've been thinking of getting one for months, I finally took the plunge, and ordered one from the local shop a couple day's ago.
PsychoI3oy
12-02-2006, 13:58
Anyone heard anything other than ads or magazine reviews about the Taurus 1911?
If it's as good as the ads/mags say, it seems worth it, but I'm hesitant.
thats what i ordered, my buddy at the gun shop has sold a couple and they both had great reports on them, and after handling one at the gun show last week i was sold, and for $520.00+ tax nib I don't figure I could go wrong?
KarlPMann
12-02-2006, 15:39
I had a Para-Ordnance P14-45, and boy do I miss that gun. But until I can afford another one, I will just have to survive. :roll: Karl.
Colorado Osprey
12-02-2006, 15:47
I used to have plenty of 1911's and then I got hired on the local S.O. and decided to get a Glock 22 to practice with before having my life depend on it.
Long story kinda... I had been carring a Springfield Custom with about another $1200 done to make it ultra-reliable. It would even feed empty shells from the mag at 100%.
I took the new G22 out of the box, cleaned the bore, filled a mag and fired side by side targets 50 rounds one of the 1911, and the other the Glock. Well darned if my group wasn't 1/2 the size with the Glock over my favorite 1911.
I've repeated this exercise with other 1911's and other people being the shooters many many times....all with the same results.
Within a year I only had my National Match Colt left and now owned 6 Glocks.
Over the years I got out of Law Enforcement and I do no longer own a 1911; but I kept one Glock...my best shooter a G20 in 10mm. More energy, more velocity and more ammo on board.
When you sleep, do you dream about 1911's? :mrgreen:
Then you need one, really bad.
JohnTRourke
12-03-2006, 08:05
Man, once you drink the 1911 Kool aid, you won't go back. Esp compared to that smith you have to carry.
Thin, perfect grip, amazing triggers, good ergo's, they just work.
They feel right.
I have only 3 kinds of pistols in my armory.
Revolvers (not necessarily useful, but ain't much prettier than a blue and wood revolver)
Glocks (well dammit, no matter how bad teh ergo's are, they work)
1911's
Don't cheap out on a 1911, get a nice one, and get a single stack. (the double stack ruins the whole thin effect) and think "wow, John Moses Browning is the man" :mrgreen:
Some of the guys over at Snipershide.com had some great things to say about the Taurus 1911, good features and "upgrades" for the NIB price. The Taurus w/ the rail - when they become available - will be my first 1911. In the mean time I'm hooked on SIG's and XD's [postal]
KarlPMann
12-03-2006, 09:45
Taurus? [roll] OK, but I guess I'm just a bit of a 1911 snob. Karl.
You know you need one. I think I have more 1911s than shotguns and rifles combined. Everying from 22s to 9x19s to 38 Supers to 40s to 10 to 45ACP. I just ordered two more frames a couple weeks ago.
The STI and SVI Double stacks arent much thicker than a single stack 1911 with normal grips. Heck, my carry gun is a STI Commander sized 1911 in 38 Super. 17 rounds of +P, under 27 ounces, loaded.
mightymouse
12-03-2006, 11:03
Spend the money on more ammo and training.
Its the singer, not the song.
KoT
Driftwood
12-03-2006, 11:10
I used to have plenty of 1911's and then I got hired on the local S.O. and decided to get a Glock 22 to practice with before having my life depend on it.
Long story kinda... I had been carring a Springfield Custom with about another $1200 done to make it ultra-reliable. It would even feed empty shells from the mag at 100%.
I took the new G22 out of the box, cleaned the bore, filled a mag and fired side by side targets 50 rounds one of the 1911, and the other the Glock. Well darned if my group wasn't 1/2 the size with the Glock over my favorite 1911.
I've repeated this exercise with other 1911's and other people being the shooters many many times....all with the same results.
Within a year I only had my National Match Colt left and now owned 6 Glocks.
Over the years I got out of Law Enforcement and I do no longer own a 1911; but I kept one Glock...my best shooter a G20 in 10mm. More energy, more velocity and more ammo on board.
:mrgreen:
I pretty much feel the same. My first pistol was a Springfield 1911, and I really do like it. It's been surprisingly reliable without having to work the bugs out. BUT.....it is pretty much relegated as Queen of The Safe anymore as I'm having a long love affair with Glocks. I guess my needs changed. But I still think 1911's are aesthetically the most handsome handgun out there and everyone should own one. If I were to do it over again, however, I would of gone with a Wilson or Les Baer. A lot more expensive but better to do it right the first time.
So with that said....buy a Wilson AND a Glock!!!!
:P
michael_aos
12-03-2006, 11:25
I think something like Zak's 9x19 makes a lot of sense where major power-factor isn't a concern.
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Benny9mm/small/B100_0528_img.jpg
http://demigod.org/~zak/DigiCam/Benny9mm/small/B100_0530_img.jpg
I'm surpised you're not dead yet, not having one! [pirate]
The1andOnlyKC
12-03-2006, 18:36
I have plenty of glocks. Have been wanting a fullsize 1911 for a long time.
Taurus? [roll] OK, but I guess I'm just a bit of a 1911 snob. Karl.
I'm guessing here, but most of the posters seemed to have favorable reviews.
http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001134
PsychoI3oy
12-04-2006, 14:45
Well, I decided to do some of my own 'legwork' (if you can call it that when Google Is Your Friend).
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=137762
VERY positive reviews through mid September.
Overall impression for that thread is that for the money, it can't be beat.
Only negatives that're consistent are the finish and trigger, and trigger pull seems to vary between 7lbs and 3.5lbs. Some don't like the squareness of the front strap, and some don't like the sights or the keylock (which many pointed out can be unlocked and ignored), but overall it seems to be a good one. Initial posts had some FTFeed/slidelock problems with the stock mags, but the more recent ones didn't seem to have any problems, and all posts pointed to most any 1911 mags working. It also appears to be the Glock of 1911s in that it'll eat anything that's the right diameter as far as ammo goes (Wolf and Blazer aluminum included), with the exception of some JHPs that FTFeed on the first round.
If you can find one. I haven't called around locally or read any of the more recent threads on 1911forum but based on this one it looks like a Taurus is in my future. A Taurus that won't try to rip my hand off my arm like the last one I fired :P
A Taurus that won't try to rip my hand off my arm like the last one I fired
What? :P
Since PI3 brought it up, I think the Quality of Taurus was help greatly since that came out, including they're pistols, even though there was a bit of a lag with them. everyone I have handled recently has had a feel of quality to it. Can't say that with the ones pre model 454.
chain.60
12-04-2006, 16:35
Matt,
Go out and buy a 1911 bring it home then GIVE IT TO ME. :cool:
THANK YOU
Bill
The1andOnlyKC
12-04-2006, 20:52
Get right on that Bill! Heck just cause its you I will buy you two.
And no I wont get another Taurus semi-auto. The last one I got was junk, so it will be a while before I try that again.
JohnTRourke
12-05-2006, 08:16
And no I wont get another Taurus semi-auto. The last one I got was junk, so it will be a while before I try that again.
Good move.
I've got 2 of em' and have less problems with them than some others. Hell one of them is my carry, so I trust my life with it. I think you should give Taurus another look, they seem to have figured out how to get their acts together and considering the folks who are such die hard 1911 geeks and are talking so highly about the new Taurus 1911, well hey, it's your money not mine so who am I to judge? All I can say is that I'll be buying one as soon as the frame rail is seeing the light of day.
The1andOnlyKC
12-05-2006, 18:56
Taurus has great customer service!
JohnTRourke
12-05-2006, 19:10
Taurus has great customer service!
They need it. [poke]
Seriously, they make ok guns
They wouldn't be my first choice.
Low bidder for a reason.
Just call me a gun snob.
JasonFRC
12-26-2006, 13:51
I LOVE my Kimber Stainless II. It came with factory night sights from Sportsman's for $750.
Taurus has great customer service!
They need it. [poke]
Seriously, they make ok guns
They wouldn't be my first choice.
Low bidder for a reason.
Just call me a gun snob.
Gun Snob :P
I haven't had any problems with the M454 or the 617. Maybe it's just Me. about 1700rnds through the 454. 550 rnds of .38 and 350 rnds of .357 though the 617.
I am also a gun snob...
Two STI widebody frames and slides showed up last Friday.
Now to get them built up...
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