Long gun log book?

[michael_aos]

Anybody have links to any good ones?

When my rifle accuracy fell off, it because dramatically clear that I really have no idea how many rounds I've shot through this barrel.

Creedmoor Sports sells a nice-looking "Long Gun Data Book 1" for $59.95, but that's probably more elaborate than I really need.

I don't know what I really need though.

Mike

[PsychoI3oy]

there was a guy on arfcom writing software to the same effect, lemme find the link....

can't find it. I think it was beta in team only at the time.

But you should be able to find (free) software out there that'll do the job for you.


Just remember to save your boxes in your range bag (and/or subtract the ammo you come home with) and inputing it at home shouldn't be a problem.


I just can't imagine spending $60 on a fancy notebook when a $.59c 'composition book' will work, much less a free software solution.

If you can't find anything, I'll search more tomorrow when I'm not heading off for bed momentarily.

[michael_aos]

I just can't imagine spending $60 on a fancy notebook when a $.59c 'composition book' will work, much less a free software solution.

I agree. I just figure there's a lot of "I don't know what I don't know".

Maybe there's some useful stuff in there...

Mike

[PsychoI3oy]

my google-fu (along with my SF.net, freshmeat.net and tucows -fu) are failing me.


But I found a page on what might be some good tips on making your own:

http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/Data_Book.htm

[michael_aos]

my google-fu (along with my SF.net, freshmeat.net and tucows -fu) are failing me.


But I found a page on what might be some good tips on making your own:

http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/Data_Book.htm

Yeah, Google got me to the same place. It looks like the beginning of a discussion, but it never quite ended. "Stay Tuned"...dated 1999.....

Mike

[BadShot]

Really just figure out what you want to do with the data. Tracking just round count is easy. Some of the data I know some folks capture is.

1. Rounds shot
2. Temp
3. Wind speed and direction
4. Hit position with some sort of grid reference
5. date and time
6. What you were working on skill wise
7. Other thoughts and notes
8. Altitude

Most of the log books tend to be restricted to a specific weapon. Eagle makes one that I know of, it's a right-in-the-rain dealio hence the cost.

WWW.Snipershide.com has some good info about this as well.

[michael_aos]

I found a few at US Tactical Supply (http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=43) also.

Mike

[Zak Smith]

Ok, seriously, there is no need to overthink this.

1. Keep track of load development and which load you settle on.

2. Keep a rough count of the number of rounds fired. An easy way to do this is to have a "counted brass" box, and when you get home, count the fired brass from that day's shooting, and then dump it into the box.

Shoot the barrel until it's toast, enjoy it, and then buy another one.

There is no need to log every condition for every shot (and in timed events it's not going to happen anyway), as long as you have verified that your dope scales as predicted in different conditions... so I only log results I that don't match the computer model.

[westy1970]

I have the US Tactical Supply booke and there is a lot of usefull stuff and a bunch of stuff I can't use. In retrospect, i still would have bought the book, I would have just got the loose leaf version instead.

[michael_aos]

I would have just got the loose leaf version instead.

Would that be this one?
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/ProductImages/modulardatabook1.jpg

Tactical Tailor has the Data Book Covers in certain colors on-sale:
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/images/products/data_book_cover_lg.jpg as well as additional colors not listed by US Tactical Supply.

Mike

[michael_aos]

Or did you mean the 9200 / 9201 kits?
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%209200-KIT.jpg
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%209201-KIT.jpg

Or just the 980-kit?
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%20980-KIT.jpg

Eagle has something the call a Notebook Cover, Small, but it looks huge:
http://www.eagleindustries.com/eagle_admin/product_admin/Images/large/369_Large.jpg
http://www.eagleindustries.com/eagle_admin/product_admin/Images/alt/369_Alt_1.jpg

[westy1970]

That is the one I SHOULD have bought. I got the spiral bound book and you can't add pages as you need them. The book is great IMHO, though. Especially the data reference. I blew the wad and got this

http://ustacticalsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=217


Or did you mean the 9200 / 9201 kits?
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%209200-KIT.jpg
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%209201-KIT.jpg

Or just the 980-kit?
http://www.ustacticalsupply.com/productimages/2006pics/R%20980-KIT.jpg

Eagle has something the call a Notebook Cover, Small, but it looks huge:
http://www.eagleindustries.com/eagle_admin/product_admin/Images/large/369_Large.jpg
http://www.eagleindustries.com/eagle_admin/product_admin/Images/alt/369_Alt_1.jpg

[michael_aos]

The US Tactical Supply website doesn't always list dimensions, which was confusing me.

The Tactical Tailor Sniper Data Book Cover is 10" x 6.5", for the Sniper Data Book / Modular Sniper data book.

The 9200 / 9201 kits appear to be for the 4 5/8" x 7" loose-leaf "Rite in the Rain" products.

The 980-kit looks similar, except for the Tactical Field Book (hardbound).

Then there's the "Tactical Notebook Cover", for the 4"x6" Tactical Hip Pocket Notebook (spiral bound).

Rite in the Rain (http://www.riteintherain.com/Categories.aspx?Category=3938b426-807c-472f-892a-b968ca845e8f) website has much better detail.

Mike

[westy1970]

my One Shot with everything that come with it is 10" tall, 6.25" wide and 1.5" deep. The MilDot Master is worth it's weight in gold if you have a MilDot Scope and external adjustments. And the pen writes upside down under water.

[michael_aos]

I think I'm going to order the 9200T Kit. Anybody used the Range Card loose leaf? I can't really tell what info is on them.

http://www.riteintherain.com/images/covers/kits/9200T_kitlr.gif

Detailed Description
The 9200-KIT includes the following items:

* 9200 Field Ring Binder (5 5/8" x 7 1/2")
The Tactical Field Binder is made of tough green or tan Polydura and rust-proof metals. Binder holds all "Rite in the Rain" Tactical Loose Leaf styles. Kits and covers are also available.

* 97 All-Weather Tactical Black Clicker Pen - Black Ink
While a pencil works great on our all-weather products, sometimes you just need a pen. These all-weather pens write on wet paper and upside down in temperatures from -30F to 250F.

* C9200 Cordura Cover
This Cordura® Cover fits the No. 200, 204, 9200, and 9200T "Rite in the Rain" Field Ring Binders. Has a rugged zipper closure and holds up to 4 writing utensils!

[westy1970]

Does it have any sheets that come with it? I can't tell by the description.

[michael_aos]

Does it have any sheets that come with it? I can't tell by the description.

Huh. I just ASSUMED it did come with some sheets.

Now that you mention it though, it doesn't say anywhere that sheets are included.

[angry]

[Hoser]

Your making a real hard job out of it.

A small spiral notebook in the rangebag works fine. Take notes at the range, then if you need to, put them in a big notebook when you get home.

Each long range rifle of mine has a small (4x6) spiral notebook. Under a buck at Wallgreens.

If it stays in the rangebag/gun case, it doesent get left behind.

You can track round count, pet loads, ect...

If you make it too hard, you will end up blowing it off inside of 3 months.

[michael_aos]

Sinclair International (http://www.sinclairintl.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=LOG-5&type=store) has what I think I was looking for.

http://www.sinclairintl.com/images/gold/full/LOG-5.jpg

Keeping track of rounds fired through your different rifles/barrels is critical for several reasons. First, knowing the rounds fired lets you know when you should possibly be checking the throat erosion and adjusting your seating depth. It also lets you know the relative life span of the barrel when performance begins to deteriorate. Our logbook provides a simple, easy method to keep track of cumulative rounds. You can get on logbook for each rifle, cartridge, and barrel or allocate several pages for each within a book. Each page has space to identify the rifle. Size allows plenty of room to write but easily fits in your range box or bag. 50 pages per book. Size: 3” X 4-1/2”.

[westy1970]

That does look good. I may pick one up for my Black Rifle.