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Waywardson174
05-17-2012, 21:05
I am so happy to see that someone has finally done what conservative economists spent years warning us about. In the ever increasing "Global Society" rich americans will leave to protect themselves from agregious taxes. Cudos to you Mr. Saverin.

Facebook Co-founder leaves (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-saverin-facebook-taxes-20120517,0,1073980.story)

If any of you don't know, he is the cofounder of Facebook.

Anyway, I'm a fan. Discuss.

bobbyfairbanks
05-17-2012, 21:09
After all, Who is John Galt?

Marlin
05-17-2012, 21:15
But,,but,,but,, He's not paying his fair share...




[ROFL1]





Cudos to the dude, I hope he's sitting there flipping off Schummer, while holding one off those umbrella drinks.

MrPrena
05-17-2012, 21:55
Europeans have Monaco.
Others can just get a residency (green card) at some other country.

We are screwed. Even if we get a residency (green card) and live somewhere else, I believe we are not immune to US tax law.

jhood001
05-17-2012, 22:41
Not a fan.

The guy renounced citizenship from the greatest country the world has ever known so he can save a percentage on an already vast wealth.

Fuck him. I hope the door hits him in the ass on the way out and whatever country he ends up in falls to barbarian raiders so he can fully understand what his taxes were paying for.

Are we over taxed? Yes. But that guy is a piece of #$&%.

MrPrena
05-17-2012, 23:13
Another reason he probably did it is , because he wanted to away from Mark Zuckerberg as far as he can.

ben4372
05-18-2012, 08:28
He didn't want to be in the one percent that the Occupy Wall St people are mad at. Good for him. Half the population pays no tax at all. I think he's good. Still appears ungrateful.

jscwerve
05-18-2012, 10:58
He doesn't live here and is going to live in another country for the rest of his life. Why wouldn't he take citizenship where he plans to live? If I moved to a different country and put down roots, I would probably do the same thing. Of course, I wouldn't move to a different country.

Mtn.man
05-18-2012, 12:32
Yeah like BO.

spqrzilla
05-18-2012, 13:01
Sen. Schumer (Douchebag NY) has proposed legislation to attempt to levy a 30% tax on people who renounce their US citizenship. Schumer thinks that making the United States more like a banana republic is the answer to the idea that United States citizenship has lost its appeal to people like Saverin - rather than figuring out what it would take to restore the attraction of US citizenship.

Sharpienads
05-18-2012, 13:31
Sen. Schumer (Douchebag NY) has proposed legislation to attempt to levy a 30% tax on people who renounce their US citizenship. Schumer thinks that making the United States more like a banana republic is the answer to the idea that United States citizenship has lost its appeal to people like Saverin - rather than figuring out what it would take to restore the attraction of US citizenship.

That's because Chucky Schmucky Schumer is a communist and thinks that "Confiscation of all property of emigrants and rebels" is a good idea.

hobowh
05-18-2012, 14:00
Europeans have Monaco.
Others can just get a residency (green card) at some other country.

We are screwed. Even if we get a residency (green card) and live somewhere else, I believe we are not immune to US tax law.

Depends on the source of the income. If you live and work outside the US for more than a year with no US income then no you are not liable for US taxes as a citizen. But you would owe the new country. I find it humorous that this is his excuse when corps and the rich pay less as a % of their income than the rest of us. Oh and just because he is not a citizen does not remove him from coverage by the tax code he may actually owe more dependant in the treaty with the country he is now in.

Irving
05-18-2012, 14:16
What's the big deal?

jhood001
05-18-2012, 14:18
Oh and just because he is not a citizen does not remove him from coverage by the tax code he may actually owe more dependant in the treaty with the country he is now in.

Captain Stingy A-Hole chose Singapore. Zero capital gains tax. You can bet that tool is going to spend the maximum amount of time he can each year back here in the US, too.

HBARleatherneck
05-18-2012, 14:19
delete

Sharpienads
05-18-2012, 14:35
If the guy thinks he can make a better life for himself somewhere else, I say go for it. He said he's not doing it to avoid taxes, and will pay any taxes he owes. I don't see what the big deal is. He's not obligated to live here. Instead of trying to punish him, our government should realize that this guy and others like him will probably be millionaires and billionaires no matter where they live, and should try to figure out ways to attract people like him and create an environment where they want to live and work here in the US.

spqrzilla
05-18-2012, 14:48
I find it humorous that this is his excuse when corps and the rich pay less as a % of their income than the rest of us.

Corporations pay a corporate income tax rate, the US' corporate tax rate is among the higher in the world. When corporations then pay that after-tax profit to their shareholders, the shareholders are then taxed at individual tax rates for that same profit. That means that the corporation's profit is taxed twice. The only exception to this is the Subchapter S corp, limited to small corporations with only a handful of shareholders, where the profit it taxed once, at individual rates.

"Rich" individuals do not pay less as a percentage of their income than "the rest of us". IRS data shows that quite clearly. Some number of "rich" may pay at a lower rate because their income is dominated by capital gains, which are taxed at a lower rate for two reasons: to encourage capital investment and the growth attendant, and because a capital gain - which must be from an investment held more than a year - is not inflation adjusted. The lower capital gains rates are available to anyone not just the "rich".

Waywardson174
05-18-2012, 15:17
Corporations pay a corporate income tax rate, the US' corporate tax rate is among the higher in the world. When corporations then pay that after-tax profit to their shareholders, the shareholders are then taxed at individual tax rates for that same profit. That means that the corporation's profit is taxed twice. The only exception to this is the Subchapter S corp, limited to small corporations with only a handful of shareholders, where the profit it taxed once, at individual rates.

"Rich" individuals do not pay less as a percentage of their income than "the rest of us". IRS data shows that quite clearly. Some number of "rich" may pay at a lower rate because their income is dominated by capital gains, which are taxed at a lower rate for two reasons: to encourage capital investment and the growth attendant, and because a capital gain - which must be from an investment held more than a year - is not inflation adjusted. The lower capital gains rates are available to anyone not just the "rich".

And . . . 51% of American make a net profit off the US government, meaning their direct benefits exceed the taxes they pay. The top 10% of income earners pay 70% of total taxes (my source, because someone will ask (http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html)). In case you are wondering, once your household income exceeds $112,000, you are in that group. Hardly millionaires. The top 1% starts at $343,000.

And capital gains taxes are simply ridiculous. For all of you who chose gold for wealth protection, by converting your gold back to cash, you owe 15% on any inflationary protection you realized. That's not income, thats simply an increase on market value. We have the 2nd highest corporate income tax rate and one of the highest capital gains taxes in the world. Refarkingdiculous.

Anyone who has ever asked "Who is John Galt?" now knows, Eduardo Saverin.

spqrzilla
05-18-2012, 15:23
Waywardson, I use the same source - the Tax Foundation - whose data comes from the IRS. Table 8 at your link illustrates my point: effective tax rates of the "rich" are greater than the effective rates of the lower categories.

Table 6 is, I think, the more illuminating and is what you are refering to when you describe the share of total income taxes. Contrasted to Table 5 which is each category's share of income, you see that the "rich" pay more in proportion to their share of income than "the rest of us".

Byte Stryke
05-18-2012, 16:42
squirrel!


I think the problem here is not that people are tired of financial slavery... but that we have allowed ourselves to become slaves of the political elite.

he wants to leave, let him.
No Different that any other foreign businessman.
He hasn't lived here in three years.