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katodevil
05-22-2012, 15:58
Cant figure out problem with bolt on a m-4, stock bolt. Switched out with anther bcg, gun worked great. With original, wont cycle back or extract after first shot , leaves empty shell in chamber Cycle charging handle to extract and eject spent shell. load another same thing. completely disassembled twice, couldnt find anthing wrong

cstone
05-22-2012, 16:15
Cant figure out problem with bolt on a m-4, stock bolt. Switched out with anther bolt, gun worked great, wont cycle back or extract after first shot , leaves empty shell in chamber Cycle charging handle to extract and eject spent shell. load another same thing. completely disassembled twice, couldnt find anthing wrong

Problem with gun = See BP Tactical

J
05-22-2012, 16:32
Only one bolt works, or neither bolt worked?

Sounds like a gas system issue if neither bolt work, and the bolt doesn't cycle back at all.

OneGuy67
05-22-2012, 17:07
I think he meant when he replaced the bolt, the rifle worked fine and it was with the first (original) bolt that he was having issues with.

If that is correct, then there is a gas issue with your first bolt. Is the key properly staked or have damage?

Delfuego
05-22-2012, 17:21
Gas rings maybe?

How old is the bolt?

Switched the bolt only or the entire BCG?

BPTactical
05-22-2012, 17:29
Massive gas leak.
How many rounds through the rifle?

Delfuego
05-22-2012, 17:30
Massive gas leak.I always have this after Chili... [insert appropriate smiley here]

henpecked
05-22-2012, 17:42
blown primer lodged in gas tube on top of bolt

BPTactical
05-22-2012, 17:43
I always have this after Chili... [insert appropriate smiley here]

Use a large enough bolt and that won't be a problem...(insert devilish muhaha smile here)

cofi
05-22-2012, 18:57
If its not cycling I would say massive gas leak also.....did you just swap bolts??? Or bcg??

Not_A_Llama
05-22-2012, 19:34
Bolt or bolt carrier group?

katodevil
05-23-2012, 11:22
New rifle and bolt, rifle functioned properly with different bolt.

katodevil
05-23-2012, 11:23
correction- rifle functioned properly with different bolt group

Delfuego
05-23-2012, 11:51
You can troubleshoot it by just changing the bolt, then changing the BC with the original bolt.

Or just take it to BP...

katodevil
05-23-2012, 13:14
switched bcg, so have it narrowed down to that

Delfuego
05-23-2012, 13:17
It likely the gas key, improperly staked, or obstructed in some way.

BP is still your man, fix it once and be done with it...

Not_A_Llama
05-23-2012, 15:06
Loose/leaky gas key (unstaked? No RTV?), or maybe an issue with gas rings (worn out? missing? There should be 3. Damaged? Aligned usually doesn't matter)

katodevil
05-23-2012, 15:13
Rtv?

Not_A_Llama
05-23-2012, 15:36
Sorry, not RTV - there's a high temp gasket sealer that's showing up in specs. I think it's most commonly a Permatex product. Not the first thing I'd look for - I'd guess most carriers don't have it.