$69,300 put into your bank account

[SouthPaw]

Story here:

http://news.yahoo.com/video/philadelphiacbs3-15751053/exclusive-money-mistake-results-in-felony-charges-for-one-man-29429416.html;_ylt=AjqmSDt6m5FK1miKQ_HWKAKzoc0F;_y lu=X3oDMTF2ajB0ajMyBG1pdANWaWRlbyBCcm93c2UgQ2Fyb3V zZWwEcGtnA2lkLTI5NDI5NDE2BHBvcwMzBHNlYwN2Y19uYXYEd mVyAw--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoOTlpZTNlBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDdmlkLWdhbGxlcnk-;_ylv=3#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fphiladelphiacbs3-15751053%252Fexclusive-money-mistake-results-in-felony-charges-for-one-man-29429416.html




Todd Quinones reports from Bensalem, where a man is in trouble with the law after spending a lot of money a bank mistakenly put into his account.

Wells Fargo transfered $69K into this 22yo account and he spent $65k of it. Now he faces criminal charges including receiving stolen property.

[tmleadr03]

Play stupid games. He knew it wasn't his.

[BPTactical]

Play stupid games. He knew it wasn't his.

^^^Yup.
Dumass

[stevelkinevil]

screw wells fargo. They made the mistake they can pay for it. These banks have screwed the American people time and time again, good luck getting a jury to convict.

[tmleadr03]

screw wells fargo. They made the mistake they can pay for it. These banks have screwed the American people time and time again, good luck getting a jury to convict.

What? It wasn't his money and he spent it.

[kidicarus13]

He knew it was not his AND he knew who to return it to and choose not to. F him.

[ray1970]

Give the guy some credit. At least he's decided to start trying to look for a job so he can pay it back.

(Fook I miss my smilies)

[Skully]

Yeah friggin dum-arse.................like he thought he could get away with it, they wouldn't notice?

I had something similar ages ago. Deposited my hard earned check in the bank and as I was driving away I glanced at the deposit slip with bank balance. Slammed on my brakes so hard I nearly launched myself through the windshield.

I had $20,000+ more than what I was suppose to. Evil thoughts crossed through my head but under closer inspection I realized THEY deposit my check in the WRONG account. I quickly went back to the bank and got it corrected. :)

I think the bank should be held 50% liable for THEIR mistake. Like if you left the bank deposit bag on the coffee table and forgot it and it got taken. You fault for putting it the wrong place..............

[stevelkinevil]

What? It wasn't his money and he spent it.

I know, and obviously he knew it was a mistake and should have reported it. On the other hand the banking industry is a parasite. The founding fathers fought over and over to keep the big bankers and federal reserve from taking over our economy. These people manufacture financial crisis to gain further money and power and I for one have no pity for them, so when they make a mistake like this that frankly doesn't touch their bottom line but will no doubt ruin this young mans life, I say screw em. Bottom line this guy deserves some punishment, but not a felony conviction, not like he directly stole anything from someone and the bank is the one who put the money in his account, they bare the bulk of responsibility for this incident!

[10mm-man]

I know, and obviously he knew it was a mistake and should have reported it. On the other hand the banking industry is a parasite. The founding fathers fought over and over to keep the big bankers and federal reserve from taking over our economy. These people manufacture financial crisis to gain further money and power and I for one have no pity for them, so when they make a mistake like this that frankly doesn't touch their bottom line but will no doubt ruin this young mans life, I say screw em. Bottom line this guy deserves some punishment, but not a felony conviction, not like he directly stole anything from someone and the bank is the one who put the money in his account, they bare the bulk of responsibility for this incident!

+1

[tmleadr03]

I know, and obviously he knew it was a mistake and should have reported it. On the other hand the banking industry is a parasite. The founding fathers fought over and over to keep the big bankers and federal reserve from taking over our economy. These people manufacture financial crisis to gain further money and power and I for one have no pity for them, so when they make a mistake like this that frankly doesn't touch their bottom line but will no doubt ruin this young mans life, I say screw em. Bottom line this guy deserves some punishment, but not a felony conviction, not like he directly stole anything from someone and the bank is the one who put the money in his account, they bare the bulk of responsibility for this incident!

So as long as you only steal from certain people it is morally OK. Gotcha.

[DavieD55]

No one in this case should be charged with a crime. Wells Fargo made the mistake not him. Who ever put those funds into the wrong account should be the one held responsible for the mixup.

In this case the *receiving stolen property* charge is one of the most incompetent charges I have ever heard of. How did he receive stolen property? Dont put $69,300 in the wrong account, it is that simple.

[tmleadr03]

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

So as long as you only steal from certain people it is morally OK. Gotcha.

That's how I read it... Some people aren't all there...


No one in this case should be charged with a crime. Wells Fargo made the mistake not him. Who ever put those funds into the wrong account should be the one held responsible for the mixup.

In this case the *receiving stolen property* charge is one of the most incompetent charges I have ever heard of. How did he receive stolen property? Dont put $69,300 in the wrong account, it is that simple.

Don't park your car in a parking lot if you don't want me to take it... Sure, I know it's not MY car... But you just left it there...

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.


These are the same people that think Piracy of music is ok... Yes, I am guilty of it too. But at the same time, now that I'm older, I've bought pretty much every song I ever pirated. Now it's all Pandora all the time though.

[StagLefty]

Nothing is free,especially the kind of money he got. Morally he was obligated to return it.

[stevelkinevil]

So as long as you only steal from certain people it is morally OK. Gotcha.


Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

First off, come off your high horse there son, secondly you probably support TARP too eh? Where are the charges for the billions stolen by those folks? Fact is you seem to have no problem with these banks and CO's stealing from all of us but you are ready to crucify this kid for spending money the BANK put in his account! The kid spent money that wasn't his and should be punished as I said before, I did not say it was OK to steal from certain people, just because you draw conclusions with a big yellow crayon doesn't mean I have to.
Lastly please refrain from trying to impugn my character, I have been a soldier, a law enforcement officer and small business owner and not once have I stolen a dime or conducted a shady deal.

[DavieD55]

Nothing is free,especially the kind of money he got. Morally he was obligated to return it.

This is exactly right.

[SuperiorDG]

I got a raise once that was suppose to be to $26 and hour, but they made it by $26 an hour to something like $49 an hour. Did not cash the check and went to the boss and gave it back. I knew it was wrong. Do the right thing and save your self some trouble.

[tmleadr03]

First off, come off your high horse there son, secondly you probably support TARP too eh? Where are the charges for the billions stolen by those folks? Fact is you seem to have no problem with these banks and CO's stealing from all of us but you are ready to crucify this kid for spending money the BANK put in his account! The kid spent money that wasn't his and should be punished as I said before, I did not say it was OK to steal from certain people, just because you draw conclusions with a big yellow crayon doesn't mean I have to.
Lastly please refrain from trying to impugn my character, I have been a soldier, a law enforcement officer and small business owner and not once have I stolen a dime or conducted a shady deal.

Look here old man, you obviously have no clue what you are talking. Go take your gerital and take a nap. Come back when you can apply the same standards to everyone.

[islandermyk]

I look it like this....

If someone threw a garbage bag full of money on your lawn/your property..

... who's returning it?

[JM Ver. 2.0]

First off, come off your high horse there son, secondly you probably support TARP too eh? Where are the charges for the billions stolen by those folks? Fact is you seem to have no problem with these banks and CO's stealing from all of us but you are ready to crucify this kid for spending money the BANK put in his account! The kid spent money that wasn't his and should be punished as I said before, I did not say it was OK to steal from certain people, just because you draw conclusions with a big yellow crayon doesn't mean I have to.
Lastly please refrain from trying to impugn my character, I have been a soldier, a law enforcement officer and small business owner and not once have I stolen a dime or conducted a shady deal.


Look here old man, you obviously have no clue what you are talking. Go take your gerital and take a nap. Come back when you can apply the same standards to everyone.


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Annnnnnnd
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[airborneranger]

I don't necessarily think the guy should be charged with a crime but there is no doubt that he has to pay all of the money back. Just because someone else made a mistake doesn't mean that he gets to profit from it.

[tmleadr03]

I look it like this....

If someone threw a garbage bag full of money on your lawn/your property..

... who's returning it?

That would a a different dilemma entirely. You have an unmarked garbage bag filled with money in your front lawn.


Personally I would not spend a dime. Namely due to this guy showing up shortly to collect it.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/08/arts/09count600.jpg

Garbage bags filled with money do not just drop out of the sky. Someone is going to be looking for it. Hope you have you powder dry if you want to keep it.

[islandermyk]

That would a a different dilemma entirely. You have an unmarked garbage bag filled with money in your front lawn.


Personally I would not spend a dime. Namely due to this guy showing up shortly to collect it.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/08/arts/09count600.jpg

Garbage bags filled with money do not just drop out of the sky. Someone is going to be looking for it. Hope you have you powder dry if you want to keep it.

If they weren't all in dollar bills... I'd move to Mexico and become a goat herder and change my name to Miguel, lol!

[islandermyk]

$70,000 isn't enough to do anything now these days...

... I would've sat on it for a little bit and waited even for a whole month :D

[JM Ver. 2.0]

If it happened with my checking account... I'd sit on it for a month and collect my 10% interest... Then give it back... :D

[islandermyk]

well... I take that back...

I would've bought some gold and buried it somewhere... hahahaha!

[islandermyk]

wait...

Now that I think about it....

Hookers and blow! In Vegas!

Hopefully doulbe the money and give back the $69,000, HAhahaha!

[ChunkyMonkey]

Steve,

Transfer mistake is usually made by the sender, not by the bank. You enter your wire transfer info wrong, it will take 2-3 days to track down. Once I gave away the wrong wiring instruction w/ my older account number to a property buyer. That was not fun, but completely my mistake.

Personal responsibility goes long way. You are just hating anything to do with bank, despite the fact that 99 out of 100 people out there will probably notify the bank right away if something like this would have happened to him/her.

[islandermyk]

Damn!

Why can't this type of sh*t happen to me, lol!


The cash in the bank part only :D

[tmleadr03]

If it happened with my checking account... I'd sit on it for a month and collect my 10% interest... Then give it back... :D

What do you have for banking that you are getting 10% on a checking account?

[islandermyk]

What do you have for banking that you are getting 10% on a checking account?

10% a month?

:D

Where's this at?

[tmleadr03]

Steve,

Transfer mistake is usually made by the sender, not by the bank. You enter your wire transfer info wrong, it will take 2-3 days to track down. Once I gave away the wrong wiring instruction w/ my older account number to a property buyer. That was not fun, but completely my mistake.

Personal responsibility goes long way. You are just hating anything to do with bank, despite the fact that 99 out of 100 people out there will probably notify the bank right away if something like this would have happened to him/her.

He quite clearly had BDS. Bank Derangement Syndrome. Anything a bank does is evil, anything an individual does is ok. It is clear even in the way he types his responses.

[islandermyk]

... and my whoring is done here, lol!

[stevelkinevil]

He quite clearly had BDS. Bank Derangement Syndrome. Anything a bank does is evil, anything an individual does is ok. It is clear even in the way he types his responses.


Look here old man, you obviously have no clue what you are talking. Go take your gerital and take a nap. Come back when you can apply the same standards to everyone.

I wasnt aware late 30s was Geritol age, the reason you were referred to as son was due to your childish replies and obvious lack of understanding of the point I was making, its obviously beyond your comprehension level. And sounds as if you need to learn what applying the same standards for everyone means. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak. Quit acting as if the kid held up the bank, or mugged someone. If you read a whole post before responding you may notice I said the guy deserves punishment, but a fellony and lengthy jail time? no. The bank bears a large amount of responsibility here if it was their mistake. Granted most folks would have informed the bank, and should. Do I despise the banking industry and what they have done to this nation? absolutely, if you had the sense god gave a dog you might be angry with them as well. I will await your next simplistic attack.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

What do you have for banking that you are getting 10% on a checking account?


10% a month?

:D

Where's this at?

Rocky Mountain Law Enforcement Federal Credit Union. And I was wrong... The 10% is for something else that they sent me in the mail.. Long term investment thing.. The APY on my checking account is 3%. I average $0.50 a month in dividends from my checking account and I hardly keep anything in there...

I've been looking at stocks that pay monthly dividends all morning too...

I found one... It pays a 19% Monthly Dividend per share... $7.00 a share... Pays $0.1109 per share per month...

It's been right around $7-$11 a share for the last 3 years.

A $10,000 investment will pay you $1,900 a year and it should hover around that price for another 2-3 years... Maybe even go up if the economy turns.

You're basically looking at a 20% interest savings account with the chance to grow.

From 04-07 it was above $30. The Economy killed it in 09 and it tanked to where it is now... Little bumps here and there... But if the economy gets better it could go up!

[stevelkinevil]

That last post of mine was too much, I have nothing against tmleadr03 personally, I normally don't get sucked into these keyboard commando type back and forths and shall refrain from further comment. We disagree on this one, it happens, we shouldnt personally attack eachother, I apologize for my part.

[tmleadr03]

I wasnt aware late 30s was Geritol age, the reason you were referred to as son was due to your childish replies and obvious lack of understanding of the point I was making, its obviously beyond your comprehension level. And sounds as if you need to learn what applying the same standards for everyone means. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander so to speak. Quit acting as if the kid held up the bank, or mugged someone. If you read a whole post before responding you may notice I said the guy deserves punishment, but a fellony and lengthy jail time? no. The bank bears a large amount of responsibility here if it was their mistake. Granted most folks would have informed the bank, and should. Do I despise the banking industry and what they have done to this nation? absolutely, if you had the sense god gave a dog you might be angry with them as well. I will await your next simplistic attack.

Once again you are having trouble applying the same standards. Not only to the bank, but to yourself. You came into this thread saying "screw wells fargo". The money was a typo. And the guy stole it when he spent it. Stealing is a crime, perhaps you are not aware of something called the rule of law? Here is a link for you for Colorado: http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/areas_criminal_litigation/theft.html Over a certain amount it is a felony. What he did is a felony. I am sorry these concepts are difficult for you pops. Perhaps you should retire now that you have lived such a wide and varied life and leave the thinking to us young whipper snappers.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

That last post of mine was too much, I have nothing against tmleadr03 personally, I normally don't get sucked into these keyboard commando type back and forths and shall refrain from further comment. We disagree on this one, it happens, we shouldnt personally attack eachother, I apologize for my part.


Awe.... I was looking forward to round three.... :(

[airborneranger]

That last post of mine was too much, I have nothing against tmleadr03 personally, I normally don't get sucked into these keyboard commando type back and forths and shall refrain from further comment. We disagree on this one, it happens, we shouldnt personally attack eachother, I apologize for my part.

It happens.

[Bailey Guns]

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

Yeah...this. Not to mention invoking the honor and integrity of our Founders to justify fraud. Pretty pathetic.

[Bailey Guns]

If it happened with my checking account... I'd sit on it for a month and collect my 10% interest... Then give it back... :D

PM me the name of your bank! I wanna open an interest-bearing checking account there.

ETA: Just read the other responses...late to the party, as usual.

[StagLefty]

tmldr- Please refrain from snapping your whipper online-Thank You [ROFL1]

[tmleadr03]

tmldr- Please refrain from snapping your whipper online-Thank You [ROFL1]

Typically when I snap my whipper I am using the internet...

[stevelkinevil]

Yeah...this. Not to mention invoking the honor and integrity of our Founders to justify fraud. Pretty pathetic.

Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

[tmleadr03]

stevelkinevil[/COLOR];477962]Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

Indeed.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah thats exactly what I was doing, the dems should hire you to twist and spin for em. Got any digs at me supporting Ron Paul to throw in while your at it? Troll.

You don't need my help to make a fool of yourself.

[patrick0685]

Look here old man, you obviously have no clue what you are talking. Go take your gerital and take a nap. Come back when you can apply the same standards to everyone.

in before the close

[Holger Danske]

likewise, in before the close

[JM Ver. 2.0]

in before the close

I was in before it was cool....

[tmleadr03]

in before the close

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[lpgasman]

http://t.qkme.me/3pgq2g.jpg

Thats a guy? Wow he must work out.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Thats a guy? Wow he must work out.

I honestly can not tell what that is. I mean, I know its a girl... But damn.

[tmleadr03]

I honestly can not tell what that is. I mean, I know its a girl... But damn.

Now let me ruin your night. It is a girl, and imagine her armpits.

[patrick0685]

I was in before it was cool....

true...but i have been at work so sadly the conversation had already blown up when i got here

[lpgasman]

Now let me ruin your night. It is a girl, and imagine her armpits.

I just thru-up in my mouth.

[patrick0685]

my boss once had 1,000,000 put into his account on accident, he never even knew until the teller called him told him to look at his deposit receipt asked him what it was like to be a millionaire then said they were fixing it.

[theGinsue]

What? It wasn't his money and he spent it.
If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

[cstone]

If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

[tmleadr03]

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

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[stevelkinevil]

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

I agree as well, contrary to the way a couple of folks are trying to paint my feelings on this, for the 3rd time or more I agree what he did was wrong, My point is that banks yelling "thief" is the pot calling the kettle black.

[DocMedic]

He should had invested it in a Wells Fargo Mutual fund, and just collected the interest!

[DavieD55]

If my bank posted $69,300 in my account I say *my account* I would probably notify them immediately per the discrepancy. However, it is my account right? I didn't steal anything right? What is in my bank account is mine right? Dont put $69,300 into the wrong account.

Ultimately, I believe the bank should be more accountable for those types of high dollar transactions.

[Heuristic]

My credit union screwed up and 'mis-deposited' like and additional $85 dollars in my account and you'd thought the DHLS was coming to get me. I didn't even know about it and I had 3 phone calls, emails, and a letter detailing why my account was being dinged.

[copfish]

I think cstone hit it out of the park. The kid knowingly took the money. That is theft in any state. Not a fan of banks, but they are a business and they too are bound by laws. They break them and get caught, they get punished. The real question here is why a used Pontiac? [LOL]

[BPTactical]

my boss once had 1,000,000 put into his account on accident, he never even knew until the teller called him told him to look at his deposit receipt asked him what it was like to be a millionaire then said they were fixing it.

Fleeting wealth there..............

[DavieD55]

I think cstone hit it out of the park. The kid knowingly took the money. That is theft in any state. Not a fan of banks, but they are a business and they too are bound by laws. They break them and get caught, they get punished. The real question here is why a used Pontiac? [LOL]

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

[Byte Stryke]

Once again you are having trouble applying the same standards. Not only to the bank, but to yourself. You came into this thread saying "screw wells fargo". The money was a typo. And the guy stole it when he spent it. Stealing is a crime, perhaps you are not aware of something called the rule of law? Here is a link for you for Colorado: http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/areas_criminal_litigation/theft.html Over a certain amount it is a felony. What he did is a felony. I am sorry these concepts are difficult for you pops. Perhaps you should retire now that you have lived such a wide and varied life and leave the thinking to us young whipper snappers.


I am Sorry but, linking anything with "Boulder" in the name immediately invalidates your argument, any past, present or future points and all of your personal credibility.

No points awarded and may god have mercy on your soul.

:D

[tmleadr03]

I am Sorry but, linking anything with "Boulder" in the name immediately invalidates your argument, any past, present or future points and all of your personal credibility.

No points awarded and may god have mercy on your soul.

:D

Bah! The point is valid no matter the source for the local law.

[copfish]

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault. He took the money from his account, knowing that it was not his and spent it. Yeah the bank screwed up, but the kid knew he was not entitled to the money. Wrong is wrong.

[SouthPaw]

What did I create here? I don't check my thread and looks what happens.... :)

[gcrookston]

What did I create here? I don't check my thread and looks what happens.... :)


apparently you've flushed out the socialists and moral relativists. What were you thinking!

[spyder]

So... When I screw up (I've put money in the wrong account before), I don't get it back, and they say sorry, but if they do it... I get charged with a crime? I thought posession was 9/10ths of the law/? I remember the days when if King Soopers messed up on your items, you got them free...

[Irving]

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

Why is this so difficult for you? Having the money being mistakenly deposited into his account is not a crime. Him spending the money is. It is the difference between trying on a ring, and walking out of the store with it on your finger.

[tmleadr03]

Why is this so difficult for you? Having the money being mistakenly deposited into his account is not a crime. Him spending the money is. It is the difference between trying on a ring, and walking out of the store with it on your finger.

Dirty diamond sellers, how dare they put the ring on your finger. It isn't your fault you walked out of the store with the property, if they didn't want you to they should have never put the ring on your finger.

[airborneranger]

How is this still going?

[cstone]

How is this still going?

Sheer willpower : )

Watch this... I read that this same bank will be installing seat belts and all of the customers will be required to wear them while transacting business. Really unprofessional cops will stop by every hour to issue tickets for those not wearing their seat belt. The bank manager will be making certain that no one CCWs inside the bank and if you try, the manager will ridicule you and tell you that your gun is poop.

I read it on the Huffington Post, so it must be true ; )

[stevelkinevil]

Sheer willpower : )

Watch this... I read that this same bank will be installing seat belts and all of the customers will be required to wear them while transacting business. Really unprofessional cops will stop by every hour to issue tickets for those not wearing their seat belt. The bank manager will be making certain that no one CCWs inside the bank and if you try, the manager will ridicule you and tell you that your gun is poop.

I read it on the Huffington Post, so it must be true ; )


Awesome! now this post will beat the post whore thread in a matter of hours!

[gcrookston]

I disagree, you may as well charge the guy with money laundering or extortion.
This is in no way a crime. It is the banks fault.

You were over at my house. You left your wallet. I found your wallet.

You had $1,900.00 in it. I took it and bought some stuff.

It was my house. Your mistake, your fault. And you want me to pay it back? What are you smoking? You gonna call the cops? You gonna sue?

So what if you can prove you left your money in my house. It's mine, you loose.

Honesty? Character? Integrity? It doesn't apply when you screw up, sorry...

And you'd have the balls to file charges against me? Sue me? Seek some other form of retribution? -- Who do you think you are? Wells Fargo?

[jhood001]

I wrote my fiancee who banks at Wells Fargo a check for 650.00$.

She deposited it. 650.00$ went into her checking account.

2 weeks later, I was sorting a pile of my mail and saw an over-draft notice from my credit union.

I checked my account history and found that Wells Fargo ran that check against my account for 6,500.00$.

Wells Fargo had 6,000$ of mine and I doubt they were going to ever contact me about their %$&#-up.

My credit union cleared it up with Wells Fargo in about 6 hours after several of my calls to Wells Fargo went nowhere fast.

True story.

Did Wells Fargo 'spend' my money? Did they pool it in some way with all of their other funds and somehow gain interest on my 6,000$? I don't know, but I was told by my credit union that there was nothing I could do to Wells Fargo for borrowing my money for a couple weeks.

As long as the guy who got the Monopoly Chance card can pay the funds back, I don't think he should be charged with anything.

[cstone]

If he could have paid the $69K back when the bank found the mistake, he would not have been charged.

I hear that Wells Fargo wants to start an Assault Weapons Ban! It was in the World News Daily. Quick, Run!

[copfish]

Sheer willpower : )

Watch this... I read that this same bank will be installing seat belts and all of the customers will be required to wear them while transacting business. Really unprofessional cops will stop by every hour to issue tickets for those not wearing their seat belt. The bank manager will be making certain that no one CCWs inside the bank and if you try, the manager will ridicule you and tell you that your gun is poop.

I read it on the Huffington Post, so it must be true ; ) I call bullsh!t on that one. CRS (Colo Revised Statutes) says wearing a seatbelt while banking is a secondary offense. You must be doing something else wrong before you can be ticketed. Also carrying a concealed cheap weapon is a primary offense unless you overpaid for your CCW at Bunsmoke.

[Bailey Guns]

You were over at my house. You left your wallet. I found your wallet.

You had $1,900.00 in it. I took it and bought some stuff.

It was my house. Your mistake, your fault. And you want me to pay it back? What are you smoking? You gonna call the cops? You gonna sue?

So what if you can prove you left your money in my house. It's mine, you loose.

Honesty? Character? Integrity? It doesn't apply when you screw up, sorry...

And you'd have the balls to file charges against me? Sue me? Seek some other form of retribution? -- Who do you think you are? Wells Fargo?

It's theft. Plain and simple whether you agree or not. Try it some time and see how it works out for ya because you believe differently.

18-4-401. Theft

Maybe you should look it up. Actually, a lot of you should look it up.

[DavieD55]

Why is this so difficult for you? Having the money being mistakenly deposited into his account is not a crime. Him spending the money is. It is the difference between trying on a ring, and walking out of the store with it on your finger.

This is not difficult for me...I just have a different opinion than you on this story.

[TRnCO]

I learned long ago to always take the high road because no matter the out come, the consequences are so much easier to deal with.
If I found a large amount of money had been mistakenly placed in my bank account, I'd be calling the bank at my earliest conveniance. I sure as hell would not spend a dime of it "just 'cause the bank has screwed someone at some point in the past".