The Jenny McCarthy Body Count

[tmleadr03]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/supercaptaincoolman/jenny-mccarthy-body-count.jpg

[Delfuego]

How dumb are we Americans, that we take medical advice from a bimbo centerfold?

Thanks for the graph tmleader...

[birddog]

I dont get it.

[funkymonkey1111]

I dont get it.

She was a vocal advocate of linking vaccines to autism and a leader in the movement to stop childhood vaccines.

[tmleadr03]

I dont get it.

McCarthy preaches that vaccinations are the devil and causing autism. These are how many people have gotten sick or died due to not taking the vaccinations. And how many links between vaccinations and autism have been proven scientifically.

[aahorn]

hey she is a very credible spokeswoman!

[DFBrews]

hey she is a very credible spokeswoman!

Spelled giant boobs wrong.

[mutt]

This is what happens when people have it too good for too long. They get stupid. Vaccines' benefits far outweigh the minimal risks and autism has never been proven to be one of those risks.

[Sharpienads]

Spelled giant boobs wrong.

Lol, that was awesome.

[aahorn]

Spelled giant boobs wrong.
ah you are right, my bad

hey she has giant boobs

[spyder]

McCarthy preaches that vaccinations are the devil and causing autism. These are how many people have gotten sick or died due to not taking the vaccinations. And how many links between vaccinations and autism have been proven scientifically.
I'm not saying she's right, but how much can you trust anything linked to the government? If there was an actual link, why do you think they would let it come out? As a group of peole that speak of cover ups with Obama and such, why do you not think the gov. doesn't cover up anything else?

Again, not saying the bimbo is right at all, just asking why you trust in the government or people funded by the government in some things, but not the rest? Kinda funny to me...

[Delfuego]

There is plenty of statistical data regarding vaccine deaths and reactions.

She is just a dumb bitch with a microphone.

We, unfortunately are to young to remember the horrors of these diseases. Not vaccinating puts everyone at risk not just your kids. Eradicating a horrible disease, and bringing them back on purpose is the dumbest shit ever, and I mean ever....

[Mtn.man]

Get yer shots, gumbent needs test subjects. (see Zombie thread)

I almost died from a vaccine many years ago.

[Ah Pook]

How many autistic births were there in that same time period? Percent change prior to 2007?

Not arguing for or against. The conclusion doesn't seem to be relevant to the argument.

The OP should qualify who Jenny McCarthy is for those from the MTV generation. ;)

[tmleadr03]

How many autistic births were there in that same time period? Percent change prior to 2007?

Not arguing for or against. The conclusion doesn't seem to be relevant to the argument.

The OP should qualify who Jenny McCarthy is for those from the MTV generation. ;)

In this pic you see all her qualifications.

http://www.dietsinfocus.com/images/stories/diets/articleimages/jenny-mccarthy.jpg

[Sharpienads]

Oh man, I really hope you guys advocating for vaccines aren't trying to tell me how to raise my kids...

I kid, I kid. [Coffee]

[tmleadr03]

Oh man, I really hope you guys advocating for vaccines aren't trying to tell me how to raise my kids...

I kid, I kid. [Coffee]

Not at all. I am trying to educate you. Personally I vaccinate my kids. If your kids catch small pox, or the plague and die because you didn't vaccinate, well I am sorry to hear that. Your family, your business.

[spyder]

Everyone who thinks she is just making this stuff up and tellin everyone else about it, raise your hands! Seriously though, have a little common sense, I don't know much about this particular arguement, but I'm guessing she's going off of other scientific studies, ones not paid for by the gov... Just a shot in the dark here... Each side has their own. So for those of you saying it's just a bimbo that is preaching her own thought's, I'm guessing you don't think many about things with much common sense...

Why is it when it comes to Obama, everyone is all about getting all the info that they can, and digging for the truth. ....Then when it comes to other things, a lot of you just sound like the ignorant lefties that we all bitch about so much?

[UncleDave]

All I know is my grandfather, a doctor of very good reputation was against most vaccines when I was a child. The exceptions being polo, T.B., tetanus, and hooping cough. Other that that he was and is of the opinion that they were not worth the risk for his family.

[Delfuego]

If your kids catch small pox, or the plague and die because you didn't vaccinate, well I am sorry to hear that. Your family, your business.It's not just the un-vaccinated kids that are at risk! Vaccines only last a limited time, this prevents the disease from staying active in the populous. It will be the old people who will first get these formerly eradicated diseases. Then the rest of us. When we go back in time because some holier-than-thou dumbfucks reintroduce Polio, Diphtheria, Whooping Cough, Small Pox we as a modern society will be to blame for allowing this behavior. We live in a society, start acting like it. You dont want to vaccinate you kids? Fine, go to India, or Pakistan or somewhere that exists in the 19th century.

Its not just about you and your kids!


I don't know much about this particular arguement, but I'm guessing she's going off of other scientific studies, ones not paid for by the gov...She is blaming her childs autism on vaccines, she has no scientific background or expertise. Its the old blame the world rational.


Why is it when it comes to Obama,WTF! who brought up Obama! We cant go one single thread without Obama?[Roll1]

[Irving]

What do you guys think of flu shots?

[Chad4000]

Spelled giant boobs wrong.


bahahaah lol [ROFL1]

[Chad4000]

What do you guys think of flu shots?


i actually dont ever get em.. my wife does....

not sure what it all means, but she certainly gets sick more then I do...

[Irving]

I've never had one.

[Delfuego]

What do you guys think of flu shots?Not the same thing as vaccine inoculations.

[spyder]

I've never had one.
Me either.

Not the same thing as vaccine inoculations.
^ Correct

Anyone had the new tetanus shot? I had to get one (nail) a few years ago and it made my arm where I was injected swell up to the size of a baseball.... It looked crazy.

[Sharpienads]

What do you guys think of flu shots?

I'm "required" to get one every year since I'm in the military, but manage to sneak out of it about half the time. I had to get H1N1 back in late 2009 (or maybe it was early 2010) and I almost got in trouble for trying to refuse it (something about refusing a lawful order or some crap like that). I personally don't take any medications unless I absolutely have to, especially antibiotics.


Anyone had the new tetanus shot? I had to get one (nail) a few years ago and it made my arm where I was injected swell up to the size of a baseball.... It looked crazy.

Is that the one where it's tetanus and some other vaccine mixed together? I got one like that earlier this year. Made my arm hurt like a mofo.

My personal favorite is the anthrax vaccine. Eff that.

[Mtn.man]

Me either.

^ Correct

Anyone had the new tetanus shot? I had to get one (nail) a few years ago and it made my arm where I was injected swell up to the size of a baseball.... It looked crazy.


Must have tiny little arms.[ROFL1]

[2008f450]

Bimbolina also claims she "cured" her kid with diet. No gluten blah blah blah so I really cant believe a word that comes out of her mouth. Unless of course the words are " do me again like that"

[spyder]

She is blaming her childs autism on vaccines, she has no scientific background or expertise. Its the old blame the world rational.

WTF! who brought up Obama! We cant go one single thread without Obama?[Roll1]
I took the actual time to see what it is that this is all about... She clinged onto this guy in the UK's report from a while ago that she dug up:
In the Uk, gastroenterologist Andrew Wakefield held a press conference and filed a report that said the MMR shot caused fluid leak from the gut. The poisonous liquid then leaked into the blood stram, and caused havoc, leading to autisim. He was then shut down by the UK government.

Her second thing she grasped onto was the US government report on the DTaP, and the Hib shot, that said each of the shots had a lot more mercury than anyone had previously though. Many people in the medical field said they contained dangerous levels, especially to the infants they were giving it to (those were the shots they gave your babies when they were born).

There are tons more tests however stating evidence saying that there is not link to her original arguement that the MMR causes autism. She still goes on though. She did however have what she thinks is her evidence that linked the two. She didn't go into it blind on her own whim.

The Obummer remark was just stating that if you are going to do your homework on one thing, you should do it on the rest. I now know what she was arguing about, and why. I also now know that she has been proven wrong over and over again by many different studies, both gov. funded, and non gov. funded, and on a few different continents.

[spyder]

...
Is that the one where it's tetanus and some other vaccine mixed together? I got one like that earlier this year. Made my arm hurt like a mofo.
...
Ya, that one...

Must have tiny little arms.[ROFL1]
...That hurts...

[spqrzilla]

Spyder, worse, there has been actual fraud found in Wakefield's paper. His paper was not merely bad, not merely incorrect but an intentional fraud. The actual medical records of studied patients did not match what was reported in the paper, with cases of autism that had been diagnosed before the MMR vaccination being reported as diagnosed after.

[SA Friday]

Wakefield... His 'research' is incomplete, erroneous, and was released without ANY peer review. He's an embarrassment to the scientific community and anyone placing any stock in his 'research' is a prime candidate for purchase of ocean front property in Nebraska.

Hollywood figures promoting things they have no education to understand nor vet for validity is one of the biggest indicators of stupid, IMO. Ther is a reason that Scientology is more prevalent in Hollyweird than any other place. Excess money and deep flowing stupidity always equals 'sucker ripe for the plucking'.

There has yet to be a validated report of vaccinations causing systemic health problems, period. They biggest problem is allergic reactions to the carrier solutions, which is probably what happened to Mtn Man.

Pain swelling and heat is common with certain types of vaccines. Typhoid, tetanus, and anthrax are the three that really suck. Smallpox is pretty bad too.

[RobertB]

Not at all. I am trying to educate you. Personally I vaccinate my kids. If your kids catch small pox, or the plague and die because you didn't vaccinate, well I am sorry to hear that. Your family, your business.

Neither of those are common, and certainly not for kids.

[tmleadr03]

Neither of those are common, and certainly not for kids.

And so we shouldn't vaccinate?

[45XD]

How dumb are we Americans, that we take medical advice from a bimbo centerfold?

Thanks for the graph tmleader...
Well now, she's not the first and she probably won't be the last.
All those looks go right out the window as soon as she opens her mouth..

[RobertB]

And so we shouldn't vaccinate?

That's certainly a strange logical leap. Using smallpox and plague as a support, particularly when talking about vaccinating your kid, doesn't make any sense is all. There's a wide array of things they're much more likely to get, and actually get vaccinated against so they don't.

[bryjcom]

I tend to think most vaccinations are not needed. Take roto virus vaccine. The roto virus is a bad case of diarrhea. You get it and then you will never get it again. Apparently a LOT of people still get the roto virus even though they have been vaccinated against it.



Whether vaccines are related to autism is a touchy subject. Most doctors will say no, but thats only because they have been told by the medical establishment. The U.S has one of the highest autism rates in the world and it has one of the highest vaccinations rates in the world. Are the two related?? I don't know but something is causing this in our country and its not natural...


And for those people that say nobody has died from taking a vaccine they are absolutely wrong!!!!

And for those that say autism can't be helped with diet, you are absolutely wrong!!!

[Ed_S]

It’s not the vaccine that’s the issue it’s the fact that some vaccines contain Thiomersal which acts as a preservative. Thiomersal contains the mercury but most vaccines are made in ‘T-free’ forms.
As with most drugs there are potential side-effects but the benefits outweigh them.
Flu shot, well that’s a different ball game as it’s made of the most common strains of the flu virus so you still can potentially get flu after the shot.
You may have guessed that I work in the pharma/biotech industry.

[ruthabagah]

I tend to think most vaccinations are not needed. Take roto virus vaccine. The roto virus is a bad case of diarrhea. You get it and then you will never get it again. Apparently a LOT of people still get the roto virus even though they have been vaccinated against it.



Whether vaccines are related to autism is a touchy subject. Most doctors will say no, but thats only because they have been told by the medical establishment. The U.S has one of the highest autism rates in the world and it has one of the highest vaccinations rates in the world. Are the two related?? I don't know but something is causing this in our country and its not natural...


And for those people that say nobody has died from taking a vaccine they are absolutely wrong!!!!

And for those that say autism can't be helped with diet, you are absolutely wrong!!!

Nope you are wrong. The US does not have "one" of the highest vaccination rate in the world. All of europe is close to 100%, yet their autism rate is a fraction of what we have here.

Gene pool, food habit, may have something to do with it.

FYI: I have 2 sons who received all of the vaccin they need, one has Asperger syndrome (borderline autism) the other one does not. One of the lady in our asperger support group NEVER had her kids vaccinated for anything: One is asperger, the other one Autist!

[spyder]

First off ruthabagah... Hows the ACR?

...
Gene pool, food habit, may have something to do with it.

FYI: I have 2 sons who received all of the vaccin they need, one has Asperger syndrome (borderline autism) the other one does not. One of the lady in our asperger support group NEVER had her kids vaccinated for anything: One is asperger, the other one Autist!
My brother is like me and doesn't do all the shots, there are a few we agree on and do get our kids, but the rest are not important to us. One of his three has Asperger's. His family eats terrible, they always have, but, he has noticed a huge change since he changed his and his boys (didn't want his boy to be alone in the change) diet, and exercise ammount. He puts his boy in everything his son thinks is cool. I don't exactly know how it worked, but his boy is racking up trophies left and right now.

I will say with everything I've been reading and looking into (been on a new diet, was, I should say...), a change in diet helps absolutely everything if you already eat unhealthy.

[bryjcom]

Nope you are wrong. The US does not have "one" of the highest vaccination rate in the world. All of europe is close to 100%, yet their autism rate is a fraction of what we have here.

Gene pool, food habit, may have something to do with it.

FYI: I have 2 sons who received all of the vaccin they need, one has Asperger syndrome (borderline autism) the other one does not. One of the lady in our asperger support group NEVER had her kids vaccinated for anything: One is asperger, the other one Autist!


Page 2 of this report. http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

Again not saying that its completely linked but the evidence sure doesn't look good. And I'm not saying that you can't have autism if you have not been vaccinated either.


Number of Vaccines for children under 5


United States 36
Iceland 11
Sweden 11
Singapore 13
Japan 11
Norway 13
Finland 12
Hong Kong 13
Czech Republic 20
Korea, South n.a.
Switzerland 16
France 17
Spain 20
Belgium 18
Germany 22
Austria 19
Australia 27
Israel 11
Denmark 12
Netherlands 20
Canada 28
United Kingdom 20
Italy 13
Ireland 24
Channel Islands n.a.
Slovenia 14
New Zealand 21
Cuba n.a.
Luxembourg 23
Portugal 19
Brunei n.a.
Cyprus 23
Malta 14
Croatia 18
Average 18.0

[Byte Stryke]

I will say this, I believe a large portion of the BS "New flu Shots" are Bunk... pharmacy company stock assurance.

some of the regular vaccines may well be also.

I trust my son's pediatrician... from Egypt.
0_o

[sabot_round]

I think that vaccinating your kids is a most. I also think that drug use is a subject that no one wants to touch, but it's the main cause for autism in our community. Perhaps, some effort should be put into that research area.

[roberth]

Pretty like cover girl,
Smart like implant.

[ruthabagah]

Page 2 of this report. http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-autism_and_vaccines_world_special_report1.pdf

Again not saying that its completely linked but the evidence sure doesn't look good. And I'm not saying that you can't have autism if you have not been vaccinated either.


Number of Vaccines for children under 5


United States 36
Iceland 11
Sweden 11
Singapore 13
Japan 11
Norway 13
Finland 12
Hong Kong 13
Czech Republic 20
Korea, South n.a.
Switzerland 16
France 17
Spain 20
Belgium 18
Germany 22
Austria 19
Australia 27
Israel 11
Denmark 12
Netherlands 20
Canada 28
United Kingdom 20
Italy 13
Ireland 24
Channel Islands n.a.
Slovenia 14
New Zealand 21
Cuba n.a.
Luxembourg 23
Portugal 19
Brunei n.a.
Cyprus 23
Malta 14
Croatia 18
Average 18.0

Bryjco: Sorry but quoting Generation Rescue for the relation between vaccine and autism is like quoting the Democratic party on Obama's presidency. The truth just the truth.... http://www.generationrescue.org/ is Jenny's website.

[DOC]

In this pic you see all her qualifications.

http://www.dietsinfocus.com/images/stories/diets/articleimages/jenny-mccarthy.jpg

And she best known for this too but I don't think she knew the camera was on. Skip ahead to 1:44
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My stepson is autistic and many of the busy body groups around us blame mercury in the shots but not one of them can prove that it is the cause.
I ask, "Then why are you trying to ban it?" with no good response. Hense the busy body title.

[bryjcom]

Bryjco: Sorry but quoting Generation Rescue for the relation between vaccine and autism is like quoting the Democratic party on Obama's presidency. The truth just the truth.... http://www.generationrescue.org/ is Jenny's website.


At least they provided their references.

Haven't seen your references for the statement "The US does not have "one" of the highest vaccination rate in the world"



References
Note: All vaccine schedules are as of 2006. Some countries use combination vaccines. All schedule counts have been
normalized to compare to the US schedule. For example, if a country uses an MMR-Varicella combination vaccine, it
counts as “2” vaccines.
All European schedules can be found at: www.euvac.net
For Japan’s schedule: http://idsc.nih.go.jp/yosoku/vacpdf/EN_05-1.pdf
For Singapore’s schedule: http://www.tts.edu.sg/pdf/Medicalmatters/Singapore%20Immunisation%20schedule.pdf
For Hong Kong’s schedule: http://www.fmshk.org/database/articles/005sf1.pdf
For Australia’s schedule: http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/

[DavieD55]

Flu-shots are a racket for the drug companies, along with prescription meds. Doctors are encouraged by the drug companies and health organizations to push pills on people in return for kickbacks.

It's not a wonder why people are getting sick from medications being pushed at them. Ever notice all the class action lawsuit tv commercials aimed at drug companies?

[bryjcom]

Flu-shots are a racket for the drug companies, along with prescription meds. Doctors are encouraged by the drug companies and health organizations to push pills on people in return for kickbacks.

It's not a wonder why people are getting sick from medications being pushed at them. Ever notice all the class action lawsuit tv commercials aimed at drug companies?


It is a racket. I live next to a RN who was diagnosed with stage 4 lymphoma cancer. He did a round of Chemo and it nearly killed him and cost insurace company $30K.......Cancer came back as a stage 2....... Couldn't go through Chemo again and found a doctor in Fort Collins that got sick of the corruption and started his own natural pathic practice. Gave him a injection of vitamin C and put him in a barometric chamber.... Cost him $250 and has been cancer free.



Allopathic Medicine is a sham when it comes to chronic illnesses.

[tmleadr03]

It is a racket. I live next to a RN who was diagnosed with stage 4 lymphoma cancer. He did a round of Chemo and it nearly killed him and cost insurace company $30K.......Cancer came back as a stage 2....... Couldn't go through Chemo again and found a doctor in Fort Collins that got sick of the corruption and started his own natural pathic practice. Gave him a injection of vitamin C and put him in a barometric chamber.... Cost him $250 and has been cancer free.



Allopathic Medicine is a sham when it comes to chronic illnesses.

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[spqrzilla]

Exactly tmleader03. Exactly.

[ruthabagah]

At least they provided their references.

Haven't seen your references for the statement "The US does not have "one" of the highest vaccination rate in the world"

Dear google master: Did you even check your so called references? Some of your link are disabled, other are referencing flue vaccination clinic....

Lest look at some real stats, shall we: http://www.oecd.org/document/60/0,3746,en_2649_33929_2085200_1_1_1_1,00.html

FYI you will need to Download the excel file. You know the thing with a lot of number that you can't understand?

HEALTH CARE ACTIVITIES
Immunisation: Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, % of children immunised

2007 2008 2009 2010
Australia 91.9 91.8 91.7 92
Austria 85 83 83 ..
Belgium 98.7 98.7 97.9 ..
Canada .. .. .. ..
Chile 88.4 88.6 88.2 88.1
Czech Rep 99.6 99.6 99.3 ..
Denmark 87 .. 89 ..
Estonia 96.6 96.1 96 ..
Finland 97.4 97.4 99.3 ..
France 98 98 99 ..
Germany 97.3 96.8 .. ..
Greece 99 99 99 ..
Hungary 99.9 99.9 99.8 ..
Iceland 97 97 97 ..
Ireland 92 93 94 ..
Israel 95 .. .. ..
Italy 96.7 96.7 96.2 ..
Japan 93 96 96 ..
Korea 91 94 94 94
Luxembourg 96.5 .. .. ..
Mexico 98 94.6 99.1 ..
Netherlands94 94.5 95.2 95
New Zealand87 89 92 93
Norway 93 94 94 ..
Poland 99 .. 99 ..
Portugal 96.5 96.8 96.5 ..
Slovak Rep 99.4 99.4 99.2 99.1
Slovenia 97 97 96 ..
Spain 96.4 96.7 95.9 ..
Sweden 99 98 98 98
Switzerland 96 96 96 95
Turkey 96 96 96 ..
UK 94 94.6 95 ..
USA 84.5 84.6 83.9 ..

[Troublco]

My son is high functioning autistic; we've done a huge amount of research about it. Haven't really found any reputable connection regarding the vaccines, but have found some info regarding gluten and dairy free diets helping some people with autism or autistic symptoms. Part of it has something to do with what happens in some people's digestive tract with the gluten in the wheat and casein in the milk. A friend of my wife has a brother who had this; the mother did the extreme gluten/casein free diet and saw remarkable results. It may not be actual autism that this is affecting; I remember reading something about these foods causing autism-like symptoms in some people. But for those who have children with autism, anything's worth checking out. It never hurts to do the research.

Regarding vaccines; adverse reactions are possible. I'm fortunate to not have had a lasting bad reaction to any; I've had a couple of short term ones though. And the military has given me about every shot I can imagine, and a few I couldn't! Even rabies...

[ruthabagah]

It is a racket. I live next to a RN who was diagnosed with stage 4 lymphoma cancer. He did a round of Chemo and it nearly killed him and cost insurace company $30K.......Cancer came back as a stage 2....... Couldn't go through Chemo again and found a doctor in Fort Collins that got sick of the corruption and started his own natural pathic practice. Gave him a injection of vitamin C and put him in a barometric chamber.... Cost him $250 and has been cancer free.



Allopathic Medicine is a sham when it comes to chronic illnesses.

Wow didn't see post before..... You are a lunatic!

A joke for you: What do you call alternative medicine that's been proven to work?

MEDICINE!

[dorsum]

I like it.

[Delfuego]

Flu shot have nothing to do with vaccinations... This has been established already.

I wish the A-holes that dont vaccinate their kids get whooping cough, or some other terrible. formerly eradicated disease. But with my luck it will be me... Freakin Irish jeans...[Rant1]

[Irving]

Jenny Macarthy is dumb as hell. She should have gotten the Autism vaccination.

[Sharpienads]

Jenny Macarthy is dumb as hell. She should have gotten the Autism vaccination.

Yeah, a classic case of do as I say not as I do.

[bryjcom]

Flu shot have nothing to do with vaccinations... This has been established already.

I wish the A-holes that dont vaccinate their kids get whooping cough, or some other terrible. formerly eradicated disease. But with my luck it will be me... Freakin Irish jeans...[Rant1]


Well if you took your vaccine you should have nothing to worry about.

[bryjcom]

No need to be a dick..

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?" [Tooth]

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.


Dear google master: Did you even check your so called references? Some of your link are disabled, other are referencing flue vaccination clinic....

Lest look at some real stats, shall we: http://www.oecd.org/document/60/0,3746,en_2649_33929_2085200_1_1_1_1,00.html

FYI you will need to Download the excel file. You know the thing with a lot of number that you can't understand?

HEALTH CARE ACTIVITIES
Immunisation: Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, % of children immunised

2007 2008 2009 2010
Australia 91.9 91.8 91.7 92
Austria 85 83 83 ..
Belgium 98.7 98.7 97.9 ..
Canada .. .. .. ..
Chile 88.4 88.6 88.2 88.1
Czech Rep 99.6 99.6 99.3 ..
Denmark 87 .. 89 ..
Estonia 96.6 96.1 96 ..
Finland 97.4 97.4 99.3 ..
France 98 98 99 ..
Germany 97.3 96.8 .. ..
Greece 99 99 99 ..
Hungary 99.9 99.9 99.8 ..
Iceland 97 97 97 ..
Ireland 92 93 94 ..
Israel 95 .. .. ..
Italy 96.7 96.7 96.2 ..
Japan 93 96 96 ..
Korea 91 94 94 94
Luxembourg 96.5 .. .. ..
Mexico 98 94.6 99.1 ..
Netherlands94 94.5 95.2 95
New Zealand87 89 92 93
Norway 93 94 94 ..
Poland 99 .. 99 ..
Portugal 96.5 96.8 96.5 ..
Slovak Rep 99.4 99.4 99.2 99.1
Slovenia 97 97 96 ..
Spain 96.4 96.7 95.9 ..
Sweden 99 98 98 98
Switzerland 96 96 96 95
Turkey 96 96 96 ..
UK 94 94.6 95 ..
USA 84.5 84.6 83.9 ..

[bryjcom]

We just had our daughter tested for allergies. She has had a very difficult time dealing with her emotions and her behavior and we're at our witts end. Enviromental pollens and weeds came back negative, but when it came to yeast, dairy, and gluten, she came back very positive.. The doctor we're seeing is how a doctor should be IMHO. Wants to treat the cause and not the symptom, unlike so many other doctors do.

I've heard stories of kids with ADHD and other similar symptoms completely transforming due to diet change.

In my opinion its a crime what the medical establishment has been doing to our kids with all the "medicines" that they subscribe to them. I've seen it with kids growing up and have had it done to me personally...
My son is high functioning autistic; we've done a huge amount of research about it. Haven't really found any reputable connection regarding the vaccines, but have found some info regarding gluten and dairy free diets helping some people with autism or autistic symptoms. Part of it has something to do with what happens in some people's digestive tract with the gluten in the wheat and casein in the milk. A friend of my wife has a brother who had this; the mother did the extreme gluten/casein free diet and saw remarkable results. It may not be actual autism that this is affecting; I remember reading something about these foods causing autism-like symptoms in some people. But for those who have children with autism, anything's worth checking out. It never hurts to do the research.

Regarding vaccines; adverse reactions are possible. I'm fortunate to not have had a lasting bad reaction to any; I've had a couple of short term ones though. And the military has given me about every shot I can imagine, and a few I couldn't! Even rabies...

[spyder]

Diet can change a bunch. The only thing that is bad about a drastic change in diet, is you realize that the great food you are used to, is like crack.... In my case anyway, kinda my wife's also.

[bryjcom]

Diet can change a bunch. The only thing that is bad about a drastic change in diet, is you realize that the great food you are used to, is like crack.... In my case anyway, kinda my wife's also.


Its weird you use the "crack" analogy. My daughter craves milk and breads. Doctor said that's probably what she's allergic to. He said its the craziest thing that kids will crave the very thing that is making them sick. Results came back and he was right.

[sully3acr]

I crave Jenny...Like "crack".............Sully

[Fmedges]

I'm "required" to get one every year since I'm in the military, but manage to sneak out of it about half the time. I had to get H1N1 back in late 2009 (or maybe it was early 2010) and I almost got in trouble for trying to refuse it (something about refusing a lawful order or some crap like that). I personally don't take any medications unless I absolutely have to, especially antibiotics.



Is that the one where it's tetanus and some other vaccine mixed together? I got one like that earlier this year. Made my arm hurt like a mofo.

My personal favorite is the anthrax vaccine. Eff that.

in '03 I got smallpox, flu, tetanus and the anthrax shot. Weeeee

[ruthabagah]

No need to be a dick..

Well coming from you I take that as a compliment...

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?" [Tooth]

some comment on this later

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

Because those are the only one we all have in common, not the total of inoculation per individual/ per country... again, you can't read numbers.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

Yep that's were you contradict yourself from your previous post and that;s were the utmost stupidity of your arguments start to surface.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.[/QUOTE]

Tinfoil hat theory: Because of people like you healthy kids die from the whooping cough when it could have been avoided!

The other problem, and it's is not just your problem is that because you choose not to vaccine your kids you put ALL of us at risk. How come? Mutation and herd protection. The way virus and immunology works is that we destroy the potential for viruses to re produce, and develop in healthy subject so that the whole group get protected. By creating gap in the protection by using dumb unfounded reason to not vaccinate healthy subject only weaken the whole defense mechanism.

Did you know that in the US 38.000 people die each year of the flu? That another 223.000 will have to be hospitalized and that over a million will visit an emergency room? The flu is just an example, I am not advocating that anybody gets vaccinated. But it is a potent virus and a shows how fast a pandemic could spread without proper vaccination.

[DOC]

Yeah, a classic case of do as I say not as I do.
You spelled, "look at my big boobs". Wrong.

[bryjcom]

No need to be a dick..

Well coming from you I take that as a compliment...

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?" [Tooth]

some comment on this later

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

Because those are the only one we all have in common, not the total of inoculation per individual/ per country... again, you can't read numbers.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

Yep that's were you contradict yourself from your previous post and that;s were the utmost stupidity of your arguments start to surface.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.

Tinfoil hat theory: Because of people like you healthy kids die from the whooping cough when it could have been avoided!

The other problem, and it's is not just your problem is that because you choose not to vaccine your kids you put ALL of us at risk. How come? Mutation and herd protection. The way virus and immunology works is that we destroy the potential for viruses to re produce, and develop in healthy subject so that the whole group get protected. By creating gap in the protection by using dumb unfounded reason to not vaccinate healthy subject only weaken the whole defense mechanism.

Did you know that in the US 38.000 people die each year of the flu? That another 223.000 will have to be hospitalized and that over a million will visit an emergency room? The flu is just an example, I am not advocating that anybody gets vaccinated. But it is a potent virus and a shows how fast a pandemic could spread without proper vaccination.


You know.... Since you continue to talk to me in a condescending way, I'm going to push it again.

Prove your point that the U.S is not one of the most vaccinated countries in the world.

When I asked for your proof you quoted and showed a link that only proves Europe vaccinates more on only 4 vaccines.

Show me how many vaccines the rest of the world takes as compared to the U.S

If its in that download and I missed it, then enlighten me please.



And for the record my 3 children are 100% up to date on all vaccines.....

[ruthabagah]

If its in that download and I missed it, then enlighten me please.

You finally acknowledge that you are not smart enough to read AND understand the documents that were provided to you. Good. My point.

[bryjcom]

If its in that download and I missed it, then enlighten me please.

You finally acknowledge that you are not smart enough to read AND understand the documents that were provided to you. Good. My point.


You misspelled "checkmate on behalf of bryjcom"

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[Delfuego]

Well if you took your vaccine you should have nothing to worry about.Vaccines dont last in perpetuity. Read the info posted or do some research. You obviously have opinions about this but very little knowledge...

[SuperiorDG]

http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jenny-Mccarthy-Image.jpg

[tmleadr03]

http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jenny-Mccarthy-Image.jpg

Nice guns.

[spyder]

I think they need to stop pushing all of this bullshit (most vaccines, I do like a few) and push health. Let the studies, tests, of what proper nutrition can do for ones health come out. No one seems to understand that the government has their hands in everything, espeically the health industry. Everyone knows that if you get in the way of the governments income, they WILL bury you. That has been proven time and time again.

[bryjcom]

Vaccines dont last in perpetuity. Read the info posted or do some research. You obviously have opinions about this but very little knowledge...


Well then, feel free to take some more vaccines.

[funkymonkey1111]

interesting news report on effectiveness of vaccines that are stored incorrectly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlRp501UN8

[Troublco]

In the research we've done, we've also come across the "craving" of the dairy and wheat issue. Ours have it, my son LOVES milk but can't have much of it, it exacerbates his autistic behaviors. We allow him a little ice cream occasionally, but that's it. Have seen less of an effect with the wheat, but the wheat is much harder to eliminate unless you make a really substantial effort. Neither is really easy, especially if you look at how much dairy and wheat are in our normal diets.