View Full Version : I need some competition opinions
Big Wall
06-01-2012, 22:45
I thought I would post this here because this has to do with a local competition. A poll would probably be a good idea for this but I don't know how to set one up.
This is the first part of my question. I'll follow up with part two depending on the responses I see.
Here are the divisions for this competition:
Class A - guns with magazines holding 8 rounds or less
Class B - guns with magazines holding 9 rounds or more
Class C - Revolvers & semi-auto competition guns and competition
equipment
I run a Glock 17 with 17 round magazines, TrueGlow tritium sights, a Hogue rubber grip and a TLR1s light. I use a Kydex pancake style holster and 2 Kydex pancake style magazine holders on a rigger's belt.
What class do you feel I should run in? If this were a low-light/dark competition, would it change what class I would be in?
There is a reason I'm asking this that I'm not going to go into here.
Thank you for your responses.
ETA: This has nothing to do with the organizers of the competition. I also couldn't care less what class I'm in. I go to shoot.
kidicarus13
06-01-2012, 22:48
You want us to say B but the correct answer is probably C because of the night sights and Hogue grip.
pickenup
06-01-2012, 23:20
Is the light attached to the firearm, and holstered?
If so......C
Most people don't carry a concealed pistol with a TLR1 attached and, since the extra weight will also help to reduce the pistol's recoil, I'd say you would be competing in "C".
Big Wall
06-01-2012, 23:54
Is the light attached to the firearm, and holstered?
If so......C
Yes, the light is attached to the gun and holstered.
Depends on the sanctioning body , there is not enough info given for an educated answer .
The not carrying with the light attached thing to me shows a competitive backround as opposed to a tactical backround . Take a look at most LEO's nowadays and see how many are running weapon mounted lights . It just makes sense because that is the most effective way to employ a light and a handgun at the same time .
Haven't shot the Boulder match but from what I know about it I don't think a light and grip sleeve constitute a competition rig .
pickenup
06-02-2012, 13:21
Seems to me that if everyone else has to HOLD their flashlight in their hand, having one attached to your firearm would give you a distinct advantage. Resulting in Class C.
As long as your other gear (gun, holster, mag holders) were not "competition gear" in other than flashlight matches, you would be in Class B.
Big Wall
06-02-2012, 13:29
I'm fairly certain we're talking the boulder defensive pistol match. They don't care of you run B class with a light if that's actually how you carry. As for weight and not having a light, I approach it from the perspective that bad things rarely happen on clear beautiful nights and the regret of a bad discrimination last a LOT longer than the discomfort of 3oz.
Just my. 02 kopecks.
Correct. I was told 15 months ago when I started shooting there that I was class B. It has never been an issue until last night when the results came out and someone (another shooter) objected to me shooting class B.
Haven't shot the Boulder match but from what I know about it I don't think a light and grip sleeve constitute a competition rig .
Agreed.
Seems to me that if everyone else has to HOLD their flashlight in their hand, having one attached to your firearm would give you a distinct advantage. Resulting in Class C.
As long as your other gear (gun, holster, mag holders) were not "competition gear" in other than flashlight matches, you would be in Class B.
It is most definately an advantage to have it mounted on my gun, although that is not why I have it there (competition wise) and I carry a hand held light if the situation were to demand it.
Big Wall
06-02-2012, 13:39
Most people don't carry a concealed pistol with a TLR1 attached and, since the extra weight will also help to reduce the pistol's recoil, I'd say you would be competing in "C".
I carry with my light and I agree that is does help reduce muzzle flip.
Depends on the sanctioning body , there is not enough info given for an educated answer .
The not carrying with the light attached thing to me shows a competitive backround as opposed to a tactical backround . Take a look at most LEO's nowadays and see how many are running weapon mounted lights . It just makes sense because that is the most effective way to employ a light and a handgun at the same time .
No sanctioning body, just basic club shooting to keep it simple and reduce the amount of Vagisil needed.
Big Wall
06-02-2012, 13:45
Thanks for the opinions everyone. Just wondered what other people thought. I am going to talk to the organizers next month and see what they think. I shoot this for fun, not to piss in anyone's wheaties.
The Boulder shoot is about as lax as it gets. What kind of whiner even cares about which class you shoot in?
Big Wall
06-03-2012, 15:57
The Boulder shoot is about as lax as it gets. What kind of whiner even cares about which class you shoot in?
Absolutely...
The Boulder shoot is about as lax as it gets. What kind of whiner even cares about which class you shoot in?
The ones that he's beaten. [LOL]
I've shot the Boulder shoot 4-5 times and haven't even attempted to look at any results. Of course I was a lot worse of a shooter then, but still.
On the other hand, it wasn't my regular shoot, so I could see still caring about results if that is your regular haunt. I don't mean to down play.
DocMedic
06-07-2012, 15:22
Everyonce in a while I'll shoot the Boulder Defensive Pistol matches.. I'm kinda the black sheep there... but anyways as it was already said in this thread, they really don't care what class you shoot, its not a high-in-priorority of who wins and who doesn't.
SA Friday
06-07-2012, 15:40
Seriously, anyone that thinks a TLR-1 is competition gear hasn't shot in any sanctioned competitions... That weight is going to help a little, but not nearly as much as proper grip, low recoil ammo, and re-springing the gun.
IMO, competition gear is magwells, extended mags, comped guns, thumb pads, C-mores, speed holsters, etc.
Tell the whiner that PMS medication can be found in the pharmacy section at his local walmart...
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