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milatary metals - $5 (westminster)
Date: 2012-06-04, 4:37PM MDT Reply to: see below [Errors when replying to ads?]
$5.00 and up eah purple heart $$$$$ marines shooting ribbins pins etc stuff n such 7560 Sheridan Blvd Pam 720 $$$$$$$
Location: westminster it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 3038895803
Pacman89
06-06-2012, 01:42
Thats actually pretty disturbing! really... who sells war medals[Rant2]can't even say anymore
And Who calls Purple Heart - "metal"???!!
kidicarus13
06-06-2012, 03:40
Tweekers in need of a fix
Eldorado556
06-06-2012, 06:35
Poster doesn't seem very literate. They are probably replicas...if not.
The Stolen Valor Act of 2005, signed into law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States) by President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) on December 20, 2006,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005#cite_note-0) is a U.S. law that broadens the provisions of previous U.S. law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States) addressing the unauthorized wear, manufacture, or sale of any military decorations and medals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_milita ry). It makes it a federal misdemeanor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdemeanor) to falsely represent oneself as having received any U.S. military decoration or medal. If convicted, defendants may be imprisoned for up to six months, unless the decoration lied about is the Medal of Honor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor), in which case imprisonment could be up to one year.
The Stolen Valor Act of 2005, signed into law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States) by President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) on December 20, 2006,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005#cite_note-0) is a U.S. law that broadens the provisions of previous U.S. law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States) addressing the unauthorized wear, manufacture, or sale of any military decorations and medals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_milita ry). It makes it a federal misdemeanor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdemeanor) to falsely represent oneself as having received any U.S. military decoration or medal. If convicted, defendants may be imprisoned for up to six months, unless the decoration lied about is the Medal of Honor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor), in which case imprisonment could be up to one year.
Was overturned several years ago, reasoned as being free speech.
Eldorado556
06-06-2012, 07:09
Was overturned several years ago, reasoned as being free speech.
Geez. What's next, pissing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier?
selling common medals (good conduct ect.) or out of date medals seems fine to me . kids like to collect and play with them . also i have gotten medals for guys who were only issued the mini medal and wanted the real thing .
Great-Kazoo
06-06-2012, 07:33
Thats actually pretty disturbing! really... who sells war medals[Rant2]can't even say anymore
Who sells their super bowl ring? Maybe it is some vet who's down on their luck OR a family member whos dad, brother, husband passed on and they do not want to look at anything reminding them of their service.
A good friend of mine asked me to sell off a few rifles his lathe father acquired in the pacific during WWII. While they held some significance history wise. He felt the pain his dad went through would be lessened buy getting rid of anything related to that time.
Zundfolge
06-06-2012, 08:49
A quick bit of Googling and we find that the ad was posted by the owner of "Stuff N Such" a second hand store in Westminster
http://stuff-n-such.net/
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A lot of folk sell off grandpa's medals ... I see them at garage sales and in antique malls all the time. Hell, a vet could have put them in a storage locker, died off and thus stopped paying for the locker so someone came along and bought the locker (ala Storage Wars).
I find it more troubling that a business owner can't seem to type a coherent sentence.
Geez. What's next, pissing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier?
Oh don't worry, I'm sure Obamination will be doing that at one point if he gets reelected... [Mad]
SoSleepy
06-06-2012, 09:13
Tweekers in need of a fix
Big time! I wish I was still capable of being surprised by the ridiculous crap people pull. Faith in humanity....falling
airborneranger
06-06-2012, 09:15
Was overturned several years ago, reasoned as being free speech.
No it wasn't. There was a case being heard just a few months about the Stolen Valor Act.
Pacman89
06-06-2012, 09:19
Who sells their super bowl ring? Maybe it is some vet who's down on their luck OR a family member whos dad, brother, husband passed on and they do not want to look at anything reminding them of their service.
A good friend of mine asked me to sell off a few rifles his lathe father acquired in the pacific during WWII. While they held some significance history wise. He felt the pain his dad went through would be lessened buy getting rid of anything related to that time.
You make a very good point. I could understand that, but i am sentimental about those types of things. It's just something about cherishing and honoring what that person has done in life even if they are now gone from this world. Ie: telling stories and passing down heirlooms from generation to generation. Just my opinion.
Zundfolge
06-06-2012, 09:20
Does the Stolen Valor Act even apply here? The seller isn't trying to dishonestly pass themselves off as a war hero, they're just offering the medals for sale.
Geez. What's next, pissing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier?
I actually puked my guts out there on a school trip.. Apparently, I caught the flu. It was wretched. Ruined the whole trip to DC.
Thankfully, I got to see the changing of the guard.. or whatever they call it.. few mins later walking to the bus.. it was no bueno.
airborneranger
06-06-2012, 09:34
Does the Stolen Valor Act even apply here? The seller isn't trying to dishonestly pass themselves off as a war hero, they're just offering the medals for sale.
I think it would only apply if the person who purchases them wears them for the purpose of gaining a benefit or something.
Selling medals (not metals) happens all of the time. I don't see the big deal in this.
The medal itself is nothing other than recognition of something far more significant and you cannot take that away. I've known plenty of guys that have sold their medals and ribbons and what-not, especially if they were unusual or sought after. There are a lot of folks that simply collect this stuff for display, so I don't have any problem with it. Now if they pin it to their uniform or pretend to be a solider when they are not, that is a whole different story.
The medal itself is nothing other than recognition of something far more significant and you cannot take that away. I've known plenty of guys that have sold their medals and ribbons and what-not, especially if they were unusual or sought after. There are a lot of folks that simply collect this stuff for display, so I don't have any problem with it. Now if they pin it to their uniform or pretend to be a solider when they are not, that is a whole different story.
I view the CAB that I earned but was not issued as something that I earned and I don't really care if they hand me one or not, I know what I did, I don't need a piece of metal on my dress uniform that I never wear anymore to validate anything... I see the idea behind collectors as something kinda neat, but damn anyone who buys a medal tries to fake the funk! [Beer]
flan7211
06-06-2012, 10:26
Stop by Leasures Treasures in the Springs we have shit tons of medals. Guys who want some beer or extra cash will give up all of there stuff.
I've seen whole boards full of fake medals and ribbons of all kinds for sale in surplus stores. Sure didn't seem right to me, but what do I know....
DD977GM2
06-06-2012, 11:37
When my Grandmother passed away, I Gave her my highest ranking medal to
wear for eternity. She was proud of my service and I knew she was most proud of why I earned what I earned.
I honestly have no attachment to my medals really. My Dad will get the 2nd of the same medal
when he passes. To me they were given to me for the work I did, and I would
have put the same amount of effort (my all) regardless of earning the medals.
I dont see why folks get all fired up over this? It is what it is.
Was overturned several years ago, reasoned as being free speech.
The supreme court saw a case regarding this, but they haven't ruled yet.
http://www.military.com/news/article/supreme-court-hears-stolen-valor-case.html
To me they were given to me for the work I did, and I would
have put the same amount of effort (my all) regardless of earning the medals.
This is how it should be! I would say that I didn't earn any of my commendations and awards in my service, I was only doing the job that was described in a contractual agreement with the United States. So I was recognized for doing my job well, good for me, awards shouldn't be the motivating factor for doing your job. In the words of one of my personal heroes: "If a man does his best, what else is there?" -George S. Patton
I view the CAB that I earned but was not issued as something that I earned and I don't really care if they hand me one or not, I know what I did, I don't need a piece of metal on my dress uniform that I never wear anymore to validate anything... I see the idea behind collectors as something kinda neat, but damn anyone who buys a medal tries to fake the funk! [Beer]
Damn skippy Ronin, damn skippy. Of all the crap that was on my uniform the only treasured items were my name, US insignia and my tab - the rest I could care less about and are all sitting in a box somewhere.
Damn skippy Ronin, damn skippy. Of all the crap that was on my uniform the only treasured items were my name, US insignia and my tab - the rest I could care less about and are all sitting in a box somewhere.
This is in no way bragging, but as an E3 (having been in for almost 2 years) I was awarded an AAM for our BN getting the best score out of the entire BDE in the Division Physical Security inspections that are DA mandated for every 2 years (3 if deployed), since I was the security manager and the Physical Security NCO for our BN. A young, wet-behind the ears PV2 asked how come I get a medal just for that, and he was rather butthurt, I sat him down (having been in an E5 Position for 4 months I picked up some things) and roughly the following took place:
Me: What was your last job before you joined the Army?
PV2: Stocker at a hardware store.
Me: And you did this pretty well?
PV2: Yes, I'd say I did.
Me: Did you get any awards, medals or commendations?
PV2: No.
Me: Do you really think that I give two shits about this little ribbon that I put on a uniform I wear maybe all of 4 times a year? I'll answer that for you, no. I did the best job I could with the tools given, and they pat me on the back for it, great! But I don't care, I would have done the exact same thing had they told me I wouldn't get an award for this. Hell, I didn't even know I was getting this until yesterday... so just do your best, if they reward you, cool, if not, drive on, continue to just do your best.
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