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shrapmetal
02-04-2007, 10:47
while tring to find bulk 5.56 at the gun show i was told our government banned imports of all millitary surplus ammo about 2 months ago. is there any truth to this?

i left the show with no ammo as no one had any for sale. are the working on banning all military ammo?

if this is true what was banned and what is still comming in? did they ban 7.62x34, 308, 7.62x54? what about 5.45?

the guy said Wolf was still ok because its not considered surplus but i don't want to shoot that junk as i already have had a stuck case with it.

HunterCO
02-04-2007, 10:57
It's true they did ban it. I found out when I got my registration packets for the MG shoots this year. Greg from Denver Bullets always advertises for ammo and his add he mentioned the ban. :evil:

cedrick
02-04-2007, 12:41
What a load , there tieing are hands so we fallover easer [postal] and they dont even know it

pickenup
02-04-2007, 13:15
Can someone provide a link to this info?

HunterCO
02-04-2007, 14:23
I don't know of a link but this is exactly the note Greg put in his ammo price list.



Note due to the recent events:
1. Import ban on surplus ammunition.
2. Talon MFG shut down.
3. Continued component price increases.
Above prices may not be valid in April and May. Call and order EARLY.


The dems are in power and this is what happens. I don't know how it happend as I never heard anything about it until I seen Gregs price lists.

Merl
02-05-2007, 21:38
something tells me he was trying to sell more ammo....

we would have heard this somewhere, like all the major surplus suppliers as they quadruple the prices of remaining stock.

shrapmetal
02-05-2007, 21:50
i'm not sure the guys name that told me that but he was the guy with all the loose 50BMG ammo for $1.85ea round.

delta6
02-08-2007, 21:30
Guys:
I have heard this rumor for months and also had the opportunity to see the flyer that Denver Bullet is circulating. I contacted a number of major ammo suppliers and importers and this rumor is an urban legend. I have contacted a friend in the State Department and he knows of no such ban. Maybe some are using it to raise the prices on their ammo...I couldn't say?

Most of you have shot Wolf or Bakiel. They are importing plenty of it. It is basically surplus. Ammo is coming in from Russia and is being sold by AIM and R Guns. You go to the Talon website (www.talonammo.com) and contact their sales department and ask if they are closed. Last time I spoke with them, they were still demilling ammunition.

There is a shortage of certain military calibers due to the fact, there is darn near a war going in most parts of the world...except maybe France. There is such a shortage of 5.56 and .308, our military is training with foreign ammo. We could feel in the near future sticker shock on some calibers (.308 noteably), simply from the fact that some of the surplus calibers will have been used up and we will have to purchase newly manufactured surplus ammunition. I'm sure it wont be cheap.

delta6

pickenup
02-09-2007, 01:36
With the Dems just getting control, and as closely as they are being watched, I just couldn’t see something like this passing without being detected.

7idl
02-09-2007, 05:43
I wonder if this is some sort of ruse, like the UK 'knife amnesty' program :?:

GearHead
02-09-2007, 13:41
I have noticed an increase in price for .223. Last year I bought 2000 rounds of winchester white box 55grain .223 for under $200 per 1000 (Gander). Now I can't find it for under $275 -$300. I have also noticed that serval suppiers are "out of stock".

Whats Up?? War, Dems, Ban.. Help!!! I need ammo..

PsychoI3oy
02-09-2007, 13:58
Good 7.62NATO surplus is also hard to come by.

Less than a year ago, SA was $180 with shipping for 940 rounds from AIM Surplus.

Back in December I got the last case from 5280 for just over $300 with tax, and battlepacks (140rnds) are regularly going for $47-50 now.

I found some Indian mid 70s stuff from SportsmansGuide for $100/400, but I haven't shot it yet and understand it to be lower quality than the SA stuff.



I haven't heard anything about surplus foreign stuff being banned other than rumors on message boards, but the idea that supplies are just plain drying up makes sense, and the lack of new surplus makes sense with ongoing things overseas.

Gman
02-10-2007, 11:45
I'm beginning to believe that I'm going to have to start reloading. It doesn't appear that the environment is going to change for the better anytime soon.

Obiwan
02-10-2007, 13:24
A year ago I had a new AK74 and I couldn't get 5.45 to save my life (and 7.62x39 was spotty)

5.56 was fairly cheap and real plentiful

Now...5.45 is the cheapest and real available

And I have another 5.56 upper on the way

I have crappy timing

cedrick
02-10-2007, 19:45
that timing thing happens to the best of us :roll: