View Full Version : Post your training vids and drills
Tinelement
06-11-2012, 18:42
Post up your training videos/information.
What type of drills do you do?
Always enjoy learning.
So this one we went 10, 25, and 50 yards. 5 shots per target. We shoot at 9" pie plates.
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This is CCW training. Initial close confrontation, Run to cover, engage, Mag change behind cover and engage last target. All targets are engaged with 2 in the chest, 1 in the head. I clearly screwed up my mag change! [ROFL1]
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Working on trigger control and moving target to target in CQB with the AR. Trying to focus on trigger reset; not jerking the trigger, stopping on target, and moving quickly.
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This was a 100 yard drill on 9" pie plates. 2 shots from 3 positions.
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Ok, let the games begin!!!! [Coffee]
I'd post mine but I train in a thong. Nobody wants to see that. [Coffee]
Tinelement
06-11-2012, 20:17
On my list of things to come down and try Irving!!
Only excuse is a 2yr old and a new born! [ROFL1]
My 4 year-old was at that match. Mom came along as well...for the first and last time I fear.
I cannot see this thread going well...
USMC Rules For Gun Fighting
Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
Only hits count. A close miss is still a miss.
If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.
Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movements are preferred.)
If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.
In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.
Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.
Use a gun that works EVERY TIME.
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
Always cheat = always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
Have a plan.
Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
Use cover and concealment as much as possible.
Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
Don't drop your guard.
Always tactically reload and threat scan 360 degrees.
Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them).
Decide to be AGGRESSIVE enough, QUICKLY enough.
The faster you finish the fight, the less shot up you will get.
Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a "4".
Tinelement
06-12-2012, 15:53
I cannot see this thread going well...
USMC Rules For Gun Fighting
Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
Only hits count. A close miss is still a miss.
If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.
Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movements are preferred.)
If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun and a friend with a long gun.
In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running.
Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.
Use a gun that works EVERY TIME.
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
Always cheat = always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
Have a plan.
Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
Use cover and concealment as much as possible.
Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
Don't drop your guard.
Always tactically reload and threat scan 360 degrees.
Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them).
Decide to be AGGRESSIVE enough, QUICKLY enough.
The faster you finish the fight, the less shot up you will get.
Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a "4".
As I originally posted, I have no formal training.
I just thought this might be a fun thread to start and hopefully gain some knowledge from some of the more experienced shooters on the forum.
Isn't shooting supposed to be fun and a learning experience?
Tinelement
06-12-2012, 16:10
I'd post mine but I train in a thong. Nobody wants to see that. [Coffee]
So I was searching training videos online, and I think I found one of yours ray!!
Came up as Orange Junk. Weird.
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I couldn't help it man!!! Sorry [ROFL1]
As I originally posted, I have no formal training.
I just thought this might be a fun thread to start and hopefully gain some knowledge from some of the more experienced shooters on the forum.
Isn't shooting supposed to be fun and a learning experience?
I wasn't trying to imply anything just giving out the list as a good place to start from.
Shooting and learning are both supposed to be good fun and I'm not in any way trying to impede that for anyone.
Part of the reason I that I thought this thread might not end well is that people, often times, do not take observations from others well. No matter how good the intentions.
I wasn't trying to imply anything just giving out the list as a good place to start from.
Shooting and learning are both supposed to be good fun and I'm not in any way trying to impede that for anyone.
Part of the reason I that I thought this thread might not end well is that people, often times, do not take observations from others well. No matter how good the intentions.
Perhaps your tone is inappropriate... If you think it could be offensive, then keep it to yourself. You don't know who the person is on the other end.
Tinelement: the difficulty with critiquing a video is that little things such as trigger contol, balance, muscle tension, etc...cannot be seen in the video. There is no substitute for formal training and a video can only give you limited feedback, often only for the big things. Also, you need to see how you perform the fundamentals repeatedly, not a one time pre-planned show for the camera. Good idea starting a thread, however it's not something easily done. Keep up the training, keep saving for a class.
On my list of things to come down and try Irving!!
Gun games are a great way to hone your shooting skills (and it they are super-fun too). If you decide to try them, understand that they are just that -- a game -- and as such, there are safety rules that you must be aware of to prevent a disqualification. I mention this because I noticed that on your second video (CCW Training) the muzzle of your pistol was pointed up range at one point.
On a separate subject... I believe you said that you are trying to become proficient by learning about tactics on your own but, have you considered taking some classes from a reputable instructor? Believe me when I tell you, it's money well spent!!
Tinelement
06-12-2012, 18:30
I cannot see this thread going well...
I wasn't trying to imply anything just giving out the list as a good place to start from.
Shooting and learning are both supposed to be good fun and I'm not in any way trying to impede that for anyone.
Part of the reason I that I thought this thread might not end well is that people, often times, do not take observations from others well. No matter how good the intentions.
Perhaps your tone is inappropriate... If you think it could be offensive, then keep it to yourself. You don't know who the person is on the other end.
Tinelement: the difficulty with critiquing a video is that little things such as trigger contol, balance, muscle tension, etc...cannot be seen in the video. There is no substitute for formal training and a video can only give you limited feedback, often only for the big things. Also, you need to see how you perform the fundamentals repeatedly, not a one time pre-planned show for the camera. Good idea starting a thread, however it's not something easily done. Keep up the training, keep saving for a class.
I understand everything being said here!!
I guess let's refocus the idea of the thread.
Post your training exercises.
SA Friday
06-12-2012, 20:05
video taping your shooting is an amazing way to critique which skills need to be improved. I know many grand master shooters utilizing video to review and then work on improving where and how they shoot. Its used a lot by competition shooters. Unfortunately, it's almost never used in LE or military training.
Shooting and moving at the same time with any amount of skill or accuracy takes a lot of practice. Without training the basics of a decent stance and grip, it's even harder.
video taping your shooting is an amazing way to critique which skills need to be improved. I know many grand master shooters utilizing video to review and then work on improving where and how they shoot. Its used a lot by competition shooters. Unfortunately, it's almost never used in LE or military training.
Shooting and moving at the same time with any amount of skill or accuracy takes a lot of practice. Without training the basics of a decent stance and grip, it's even harder.
Good point, however I disagree with your opinion on video use in LE/mil. (that's why shoothouses have many cameras...). The difference is the level of shooters we are talking about. A GM trying to shave off a few tenths of a second vs. someone who is newer and still working on the fundamentals....big difference when comparing video feeds.
I was under the impression that TinElement might like to have suggestions of other types of exercises to practice, like the El Presidente or something.
In that case here is fun one - short range stress drill:
2 shots short distance on a 4" plate
10 burpees
2 shots each at 2 10" targets at intermediate distance
10 burpees
1 shot each on all three targets
Don't worry about going fast. Slow and steady. Add mag changes and stoppages in on occasion to break things up.
In that case here is fun one - short range stress drill:
2 shots short distance on a 4" plate
10 burpees
2 shots each at 2 10" targets at intermediate distance
10 burpees
1 shot each on all three targets
Don't worry about going fast. Slow and steady. Add mag changes and stoppages in on occasion to break things up.
Are you holstering the pistol between strings?
If you have enough space you can also always do the MEU(SOC) drills. I will post here if you cant find them online.
Personally, I don't like the drill - but it is good for gauging your fundamental progress over time.
Are you holstering the pistol between strings?
Of course. Although I think it would be funny to watch someone doing without holstering.
[ROFL1]
You can also unload and set down the pistol between each string. Do whatever you think you need to work on. The point of the drill is to induce physical stress.
After awhile doing the drill you can get a baseline - that's when you add a clock to the drill and try to better your times. Adding the clock induces mental stress on top of the physical.
I will post up more drills tomorrow when I am not thumbdancing on a tiny keyboard. :)
You can also unload and set down the pistol between each string.
That's what I was thinking. I don't think my holsters holds the pistol with enough tension for me to do burpies.
Thanks for posting the videos, great idea and I think that when you watch others and what they do, you always have take aways that you either learn from or critique for later.
Looks like fun!
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