So what the hell is next??

[geo351]

West bound 36 @ church ranch, Westminster cops and DEA running a drug check point !!!! Really ? Glad I took the bail of hemp out of my suburban !!
Hand written drug signs over DUI on the check point signs , 2 cars all opened up and 5 cop cars two under cover cars, is nothing sacred anymore?

[bobbyfairbanks]

PRofCO is here. Vote for Romney it will get better I promise.[ROFL1]

[geo351]

Anyone but obummer that is a guarantee !!

[Adawg38]

Are you serious? They got to have a reason for being setup like that....don't they? Better ditch the Ruffies![ROFL1]

[Skully]

Are they randomly pulling people over or does it seems they are picking out specific makes and models of cars? I didnt think they were allowed to do that randomly specially if you refuse a search. (Aurora all over again) They must have a tip on drug running for a specific make and model.

[jackthewall81]

Good thing I beat it out, don't wanna deal with that shit. That is weird as hell.

[geo351]

There were to sedans , both imports and there was one cop right at the off ramp pointing at cars bringing them over to the side of the road , one truck in front of me got brought over, I was ready to exercise my rights !! Attorney on speed dial, looked random to me but

[flan7211]

Shut up you rats!! Just hand over your papers and say where your going and nothing will happen to you. [Muaha]

[jackthewall81]

Shut up you rats!! Just hand over your papers and say where your going and nothing will happen to you. [Muaha]

I'll pass and not tell em a thing.

[Irving]

We looked it up. It is illegal. What they do is set up signs for the drug check point, but there isn't actually one set up. Instead, they just pull over people who make illegal u-turns and other evasive maneuvers to get out of the check point. They do this to avoid the hassle of having to find a traffic related reason to stop someone in the first place.

[JohnTRourke]

welcome to the police state :-(

[jackthewall81]

We looked it up. It is illegal. What they do is set up signs for the drug check point, but there isn't actually one set up. Instead, they just pull over people who make illegal u-turns and other evasive maneuvers to get out of the check point. They do this to avoid the hassle of having to find a traffic related reason to stop someone in the first place.

They must be going broke or are just lazy.

[lpgasman]

Highway drug checkpoints are okay as long as they're not real, the Colorado Court of Appeals ruled August 14. The Missouri Supreme Court upheld a similar practice last year. The ruling came in a case that began in June 2000, when Dolores County Sheriff's deputies put up roadblocks outside Telluride just as the Telluride Bluegrass Festival was getting underway. Ahead of the roadblocks, officers put up signs reading "Narcotics Checkpoint One Mile Ahead" and "Narcotics Canine Ahead." There was no checkpoint. Officers would then look for people attempting to turn around illegally or throwing items out of windows, pull them over for the criminal violation, and use that as a basis for a search.

It happened to Stephen Corbin Roth, who was convicted of possession of drug paraphernalia. Upon seeing the warning signs, Roth tossed a pipe out the window, and after pulling him over for littering, police found another pipe and psychedelic mushrooms. Roth appealed his conviction, arguing that the fake checkpoints violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

In a 2001 case involving the Indianapolis police, the US Supreme Court ruled that actual drug checkpoints are unconstitutional because they involved stops and searches with no probable cause to believe any given driver had committed a crime. But in the Colorado case, where police set up a fake checkpoint, then detained people attempting to avoid it, the judges ruled that police had reason to believe a crime had been committed. According to Colorado Court of Appeals Judge Sandra Rothenberg, who wrote the decision, fictitious checkpoints designed as "ruses" do not raise the same constitutional issues as the actual anti-drug checkpoints that the US Supreme Court disallowed. Police are allowed to create ruses that cause people to either commit violations or to abandon property that, when found, gives police reasonable suspicion to stop and search a vehicle. In the Roth case, Roth gave the police the legal grounds to stop him once he littered (by throwing out his pot pipe) and search his vehicle once police recovered the discarded pipe.

Dolores County Sheriff Jerry Martin had put the fake checkpoints on hold while the case was appealed, but told the Denver Post he would reinstate them. Martin, who is also head of the County Sheriffs of Colorado, added that he would encourage his colleagues to follow his lead.

Bottom line: If it says "Narcotics Checkpoint," it isn't one.

Visit http://www.courts.state.co.us/coa/opinion/2003q3/02CA160.doc to read the opinion online.

[Great-Kazoo]

#1: It is a BALE, not bAIl,
#2: moving that much weight means either you are a low level mule or stupid.

#3 Don't do or attempt to sell or distribute drugs.
This was a PSA for people driving anywhere near boulder, dude.

Oh yeah do not allow a search of your vehicle

[kidicarus13]

Professor Gasman in the house

[geo351]

[Stooge]
#1: It is a BALE, not bAIl,
#2: moving that much weight means either you are a low level mule or stupid.

#3 Don't do or attempt to sell or distribute drugs.
This was a PSA for people driving anywhere near boulder, dude.

Oh yeah do not allow a search of your vehicle

pos iPhone auto spell

[lpgasman]

Professor Gasman in the house

I'm sorry, I pulled this off the interwebs, just cut and paste from my phone. Didn't mean to mislead anyone, I'm still stupit kid13:)

[T-Giv]

I saw the checkpoint as well. I have never seen anything quite that like before. Wild Wild Westy operates on a different level than other metro agencies.

[aahorn]

welcome to the police state :-(

damn conservative small government folk... they advocate for police states with their crazy small government ideas! [Coffee]

[JohnTRourke]

damn conservative small government folk... they advocate for police states with their crazy small government ideas!

Did I miss the sarcasm smiley?????????

[aahorn]

Did I miss the sarcasm smiley?????????

fixed

[00tec]

http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_20852880/police-stop-23-boulder-bound-drivers-u-s?nstrack=sid:4140186|met:300|cat:0|order:3

[Ronin13]

It was the second time a drug checkpoint has been enforced by the Westminster Police Department in the past year.

So much for being illegal...

[BPTactical]

So much for being illegal...

Yup, because EVERYTHING LE does is in OUR best interest and legal........

[Ronin13]

Yup, because EVERYTHING LE does is in OUR best interest and legal........

The thing that really got me was the part where they bragged about Westminster PD doing everything legally and "by the book" so to speak, even though it was cited here that Drug Enforcement Checkpoints are illegal. Oh and need I mention, not once have I ever been in an encounter with any LEO that has stated I have the right to refuse a search... Luckily I know my rights these days though.

[00tec]

They did mention in the article that the vehicles that were pulled over were pulled over for traffic violations, not at random.

[BPTactical]

They did mention in the article that the vehicles that were pulled over were pulled over for traffic violations, not at random.

Ok, so 23 vehicles were pulled over yet only 3 citations and 1 arrest were done.
Maybe I be a missing something here but in my experience if you are pulled over for a traffic violation you are issued a citation, occasionally let off with a warning.
Traffic violations my ass, they had credible but non specific information on a load of goodies headed to the land of Oz.
They pulled over vehicles that fit the general criteria of the information they had.

[spqrzilla]

You are not missing anything BPtactical, those statistics well establish that the checkpoint is illegal.

[JohnTRourke]

You are not missing anything BPtactical, those statistics well establish that the checkpoint is illegal.

not that the police give a damn.

Claire Wolfe was wrong.