XDM questions

[bchase75]

So, I picked up a Springfield XDM in .40 recently, and I've read online that if you dry fire them a lot the striker retainer pin can break. Anyone have experience with this? I'm thinking of ordering a Powder River Precision replacement pin (supposed to be stronger) and installing it as a precaution, but I'm wondering if its really necessary....

Also, does anyone know if night sights (Trijicon specifically) made for the XD can be installed on the XDM without too much trouble?

[bellavite1]

I have one for myself and one for the wife, both 3.8.
Carry guns, so they get shot a lot in practice.
Never had any issue...[Beer]

[J]

Not sure on the NS, my XDm was bought with Trijicons on them.

As far as the roll pin. Don't dry fire all the time, and you will be OK. A little dry firing is not going to kill the pin. Especially since, unlike the XD, the XDm does not require dry-fire to disassemble. Also, there are many reports of that model working just fine for multiple magazines after the pin breaks.

There is a reasonable consensus that the solid pins are a bad idea. The roll pins should be the first thing to wear in dry fire strikes. Other pieces may take the brunt of the post with the solid, or more solid pins.

My opinion, if you are worried about it, pick up a spare stock roll pin to keep on hand in case it breaks.

[ruthabagah]

I have owned 2 xd and 3XDM, probably dry fired them 100 time each and never experienced a problem.

[bchase75]

Thanks for the feedback guys. Sounds like the thing to do is have a spare pin on hand just in case.

[Graves]

Or a snap cap...just sayin'.

[lifeon2]

Yeah snap caps are probably the cheaper route.

[bchase75]

Actually, a pack of replacement pins is $12, whereas a package of snap caps at Sportsmans is $15....

I probably will pick up some snap caps, but I usually decock my pistols by dry firing every time I'm done shooting a magazine at the range, and I doubt I'd take the time to put a snap cap in for that purpose.

Hard to believe that Springfield would sell a pistol with such an obvious design flaw. They need to step up their game if they want to compete with Glock in the reliability department.

[fitz19d]

I've never personally heard of anyone with that problem, and mines been dry fired plenty. (but less than a double action hammer for obvious reasons of always having to rerack slide).

For every single gun product from hi points to sigs you will find numerous people online blaming them for their cancer to magically going off.

[bchase75]

I called Springfield customer service this morning, and they confirmed that dry firing can damage the pin. The solution they recommended was to not dry fire the gun. I asked them how to decock the pistol if that was the case, and they answered my question with a question, asking me if I *really* needed to decock the gun after emptying the magazine [ROFL1]

So yeah, not super impressed with SA right now, but I figure I'll just keep some spares on hand and hope for the best.

[J]

So, out of curiosity, what is your reasoning behind decocking the gun? I have and likely will never do this regularly on my striker fired pistols. [Dunno]

[bchase75]

Safety, I guess. Pretty much the same reason I'd decock a hammer fired pistol. Its just something I've always done....finish shooting a magazine, drop magazine, release slide, point gun in safe direction, and pull the trigger (decock). I'm sure I could get out of the habit, but any way you slice it, I'm not impressed with a centerfire pistol that is so delicate you shouldn't dry fire it once in awhile.

[fitz19d]

Guess myself and 3 other xdm owners are just lucky... The manuals in almost every gun I've had say not to dry fire, but they also say things like don't look down the barrell and pull trigger and other retard liability type statements.

If you have cleared the weapon, it's true, what do you need to de cock for. (I do it out of habit too, but think about it, to get a round chambered it would have to be recocked anways, so decocking accomplishes nothing. )

[Graves]

Much of my draw and malf/clearing drills are done at home; snap caps are nice for this reason. I'm partial to Glocks myself but I won't sit here and say they're the end all handgun on the market, they just work well for me, however like every other gun on the market...there is such a thing a too much dry firing even if you have a Glock.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f170/g30_croox/DSCN0519.jpg

[Irving]

What is unsafe about an unloaded gun being cocked? You can't load it again without cocking it anyway.

If only after each magazine is when you dry fire it, I really wouldn't worry about it.

[bchase75]

Fair enough. I guess I'll proceed as I usually would and see how it goes.

[bchase75]

Well, if the striker retainer pin issue doesn't come up, I think I'm sold on the XDM. I took it to the range yesterday, and was VERY impressed with ergonomics, accuracy, reliability, etc...

I especially like the trigger.

[Fmedges]

Well, if the striker retainer pin issue doesn't come up, I think I'm sold on the XDM. I took it to the range yesterday, and was VERY impressed with ergonomics, accuracy, reliability, etc...

I especially like the trigger.

I bought an M&P40c about 2 months ago that I have been happy with until today I got to handle my Dads newly bought XDm Compact. Now I'm totally bummed out.

[bchase75]

I have an M&P 40c as well, and I actually prefer the ergonomics over the XDM, but its definitely a "near as makes no difference" kind of thing. Both feel really good in hand, and so far both have been 100% in nearly every respect.

[Fmedges]

I have an M&P 40c as well, and I actually prefer the ergonomics over the XDM, but its definitely a "near as makes no difference" kind of thing. Both feel really good in hand, and so far both have been 100% in nearly every respect.

True, I still have an awesome pistol, but that XDm is pretty damn sweet.

[MadRabbit]

FWIW, replacing the sights on the XD/XDm's is a pretty big hassle. They must put them in at the factory with a 40 ton hydraulic press or something. It can be done (I've done all mine), but it's not a job I look forward to.

[bchase75]

Yeah, if I do decide to replace the sights, I think I'll most likely give Bert a call and have them installed by a professional. My gunsmithing skills are pretty minimal.

[olopc]

I am thinking about moving from my XD 9, to an XDM 9. Any feedback on whether it is worth the price to change over? I have never fired an XDM but read a ton about how guys are impressed with them. Anyone who has owned both have some advice for me? Thanks.

[bchase75]

I'm not sure if its worth it to upgrade, but I'm definitely impressed with mine. I picked up one of those "battleship" targets at the Shootist with a friend of mine, and I was able to clear most of my section within the first mag. Long story short, I've never been able to shoot as accurately with a pistol as I can with my XDM, and that was my first time shooting it!

I'm not sure if its the trigger (which is nice), the ergonomics, the "match" grade barrel, or some combination thereof, but whatever the reason, its very easy to shoot well. Its also been 100% reliable with everything I've fed it.

[RMAC757]

I am thinking about moving from my XD 9, to an XDM 9. Any feedback on whether it is worth the price to change over? I have never fired an XDM but read a ton about how guys are impressed with them. Anyone who has owned both have some advice for me? Thanks.

I have a couple of the XDM's. 3.8 sc 9mm and the 5.25 comp for range stuff. I love them both. I think the ergonomics are better. They say the trigger is better but I'm not sure that's the case. I haven't found it any different from the xd's I've owned. For the price it's a great alternative to Glocks.

[sellersm]

I can only compare the XD 9 to my XDm 3.8 .45acp, and the XDm is by far better, more accurate, feeds everything (factory, my reloads, lead, etc.)! I like the ergos, trigger seems better, but I haven't put any instruments on it... I'd really like to try a full-size XDm!!

[Caithford]

My reading has indicated that if you have an XD45 and want to shoot SWC's, then you should definitely consider the XDM45 because it was redesigned to feed SWC's properly. Beyond that, I know some folks who prefer the XD over the XDM, and some folks who prefer the XDM over the XD.

I love my XDM 45 and wouldn't give it up.

[olopc]

You guys are confirming what I've been thinking. Great feedback. This website is fantastic. I need to get an XDM 9 and at least try it out. Maybe I should rent one. They now have them for rent for $20, at the Bluecore shooting range.

[Chad4000]

I shot my buddies XDM40 and I have an XD9 myself.

both great weapons I think.. if I was buying another striker fired pistol and I didnt have to worry about money, I would by the xdm...

edit : btw, check out xdtalk.com too. (not sure if that has been mentioned)