Diesel Cars

[Gunner]

I'm getting killed at the pump and would like to keep millage low on my truck. So what are some are some of the better diesel cars out there. Or cheap cars good on gas.

[Zundfolge]

Best Diesel Car: VW TDi

[ghettodub]

Yup, hard to beat those VW TDis. Great cars.

I'm planning on picking up a second vehicle as well for the same reason, but I'm just going to go with a Honda Civic

[Ronin13]

Best Diesel Car: VW TDi

That's just, like, your opinion, man... I would say the BMW 330d is pretty darn awesome- that 2.0L N37 D30 is pretty powerful and fuel efficient. [Beer]

[UncleDave]

Sip a little more of the BMW cool-aid there Ronin.

[Tooth]

[tmleadr03]

Sip a little more of the BMW cool-aid there Ronin.

[Tooth]

The main difference is the TDI I am selling right now has 90 HP, while the 330d has over 200. But you can't get anything but an E9x with the diesel here in the states. Too expensive in my book.

OP, hope you don't want too much in the way of fuel economy, the TDI I have for sale is only getting about 51+ on the freeway with the AC blasting. Very bad I tell you...

ETA: Just wanted to add that I can put my little diesel car on cruise control at 65 mph and head up I70 and it just pulls with no problems.

[waxthis]

With out a question......mk4-99-03 VW TDI... Non pumpe Duce, one of the best engines ever made and simple and CHEAP to work on, 46-52 MPG.

[SouthPaw]

Recently became a fan of the new Jetta TDi. I was really surprised how much that car gets up and goes.

[tmleadr03]

That's just, like, your opinion, man... I would say the BMW 330d is pretty darn awesome- that 2.0L N37 D30 is pretty powerful and fuel efficient. [Beer]

I really really really want to find a 330i with a blown engine and ship a diesel engine from Europe and swap it out. 2006 330d, fuck yeah!

[Zundfolge]

That's just, like, your opinion, man... I would say the BMW 330d is pretty darn awesome- that 2.0L N37 D30 is pretty powerful and fuel efficient. [Beer]
I think Gunner's looking for something affordable.


Old Merc SDs and TDs are nice too (I think a cherry W123 300TD would be an awesome grocery getter ... here's one on CL but they can't make up their mind on the price http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3004330265.html ).

[Ronin13]

Sip a little more of the BMW cool-aid there Ronin.

[Tooth]

Brand loyalty, Dave... [Coffee]


I really really really want to find a 330i with a blown engine and ship a diesel engine from Europe and swap it out. 2006 330d, fuck yeah!
How much would that cost? I remember looking at some of the crate motors you can get from Alpina, holy wow! They had a 2004 M3 S54TT modifed motor, but I think it was somewhere around 22,000 Euros not including shipping... But then again that was when I was more fantasizing.

I really wish there was a bigger market for Diesel powered cars, pretty much in America you have to get a big, huge (for me I don't have a need for a truck) behemoth in order to have a diesel engine. I would love to be able to find a diesel saloon, like the Audi A4TDI Quattro.

[mbl]

I have a Honda Civic, get around 42ish highway. My friend has a VW TDI and gets about the same, although he does it with more torque.

Last time I checked, diesel fuel was more expensive than the 85 octane my Civic uses.

For a commuter car, cant justify the premium for the desiel, allthogut I would love it. I have not had any problems with my Honda, but it seems like every time I turn around his VW has some issue that needs attention.

[waxthis]

I have a Honda Civic, get around 42ish highway. My friend has a VW TDI and gets about the same, although he does it with more torque.

Last time I checked, diesel fuel was more expensive than the 85 octane my Civic uses.

For a commuter car, cant justify the premium for the desiel, allthogut I would love it. I have not had any problems with my Honda, but it seems like every time I turn around his VW has some issue that needs attention.


Oh here we go..................[Peep]

[tmleadr03]

Brand loyalty, Dave... [Coffee]


How much would that cost? I remember looking at some of the crate motors you can get from Alpina, holy wow! They had a 2004 M3 S54TT modifed motor, but I think it was somewhere around 22,000 Euros not including shipping... But then again that was when I was more fantasizing.

I really wish there was a bigger market for Diesel powered cars, pretty much in America you have to get a big, huge (for me I don't have a need for a truck) behemoth in order to have a diesel engine. I would love to be able to find a diesel saloon, like the Audi A4TDI Quattro.

Honestly not a whole lot more then swapping out a gas engine. The long block for a stock diesel motor wouldn't be that bad, shipping would add 600-1000 more most likely (I really am pulling that right out of my ass since I have never shipped an engine overseas so I have no clue). You would need a diesel computer, diesel fuel pump, engine mounts, diesel wiring harness, instrument cluster and some other things that are not coming to me off the top of my head. Main labor would be putting it together so it looked stock.

Audi would be much easier except for the Quattro part. The jetta has the same body and frame as the Audi. All you need to do is drop the engine and transmission with the sub-frame attached out the bottom, roll it under the other vehicle and bolt it up. Clear out the fuel lines and replace the fuel pump. Done. Now you have a TDI Audi and a Gas Jetta. With all wheel drive the gearing in the transfer case and rear differential have to be changed out.

[tmleadr03]

I have a Honda Civic, get around 42ish highway. My friend has a VW TDI and gets about the same, although he does it with more torque.

Last time I checked, diesel fuel was more expensive than the 85 octane my Civic uses.

For a commuter car, cant justify the premium for the desiel, allthogut I would love it. I have not had any problems with my Honda, but it seems like every time I turn around his VW has some issue that needs attention.

A lot of that depends on the year of each vehicle. What year is your Honda and what year is his Jetta?

[Ronin13]

Honestly not a whole lot more then swapping out a gas engine. The long block for a stock diesel motor wouldn't be that bad, shipping would add 600-1000 more most likely (I really am pulling that right out of my ass since I have never shipped an engine overseas so I have no clue). You would need a diesel computer, diesel fuel pump, engine mounts, diesel wiring harness, instrument cluster and some other things that are not coming to me off the top of my head. Main labor would be putting it together so it looked stock.

Audi would be much easier except for the Quattro part. The jetta has the same body and frame as the Audi. All you need to do is drop the engine and transmission with the sub-frame attached out the bottom, roll it under the other vehicle and bolt it up. Clear out the fuel lines and replace the fuel pump. Done. Now you have a TDI Audi and a Gas Jetta. With all wheel drive the gearing in the transfer case and rear differential have to be changed out.

Well it cost us about $2500 when the engine on my '91 Toyota went out and we bought a new(ish) one from Japan with less than 40K on it... so I guess shipping from Europe could be comparable...

[lpgasman]

The main difference is the TDI I am selling right now has 90 HP, while the 330d has over 200. But you can't get anything but an E9x with the diesel here in the states. Too expensive in my book.

OP, hope you don't want too much in the way of fuel economy, the TDI I have for sale is only getting about 51+ on the freeway with the AC blasting. Very bad I tell you...

ETA: Just wanted to add that I can put my little diesel car on cruise control at 65 mph and head up I70 and it just pulls with no problems.

"TDI I am selling right now"
You are too smooth:)

[tmleadr03]

Well it cost us about $2500 when the engine on my '91 Toyota went out and we bought a new(ish) one from Japan with less than 40K on it... so I guess shipping from Europe could be comparable...

German engines would run a bit more then that. Just for comparison a head gasket job on a 330 runs 2500.

[ghettodub]

Last time I checked, diesel fuel was more expensive than the 85 octane my Civic uses.



All depends on where you get it. At one station by me, regular unleaded is $3.70 a gallon, and diesel is $3.58, but drive two miles down the road, and it's reversed...

[Mazin]

I;m in the process of buying a 99 Pontiac Grand am 4 cyl to try to curb the $740 monthly gas bill. I firgured cutting to the 4cyl like the wife is driving will hopeful give me a little gun budget again. My wifes Hyundai Sonata is pulling almost 500 to the tank (32ish mi), and has been a great car.

[tmleadr03]

I;m in the process of buying a 99 Pontiac Grand am 4 cyl to try to curb the $740 monthly gas bill. I firgured cutting to the 4cyl like the wife is driving will hopeful give me a little gun budget again. My wifes Hyundai Sonata is pulling almost 500 to the tank (32ish mi), and has been a great car.

I get slightly over 700 on the freeway. Typically around 600 in town if I drive till the fuel light comes on.

[Mazin]

I get slightly over 700 on the freeway. Typically around 600 in town if I drive till the fuel light comes on.

Nice I'm driving a F150 5.4 now so I'm looking forward to the break. Now I just need to tame the foot and I will really be saving.

[tmleadr03]

Nice I'm driving a F150 5.4 now so I'm looking forward to the break. Now I just need to tame the foot and I will really be saving.

I am selling the four banger since I never drive it anymore, just the work truck. 20mpg on average, and not bad for a rolling tool box.

[waxthis]

I get slightly over 700 on the freeway. Typically around 600 in town if I drive till the fuel light comes on.

Is that the one your selling? If so, got a link or info?...Pm if needed.

[Mazin]

I am selling the four banger since I never drive it anymore, just the work truck. 20mpg on average, and not bad for a rolling tool box.

I wish I got 20 or 15 or 13, and that is mostly highway Brighton to Lakewood. Betty (f150) was never meant to be a dd but then life happened, she will be a winter / hauling driver soon though. What sucks is I would love to get around a 05 but there would be no way to justify GAS+PAYMENT.

[tmleadr03]

Is that the one your selling? If so, got a link or info?...Pm if needed.

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/showthread.php?t=54258

I had forgotten that the previous add had gone away in the great crash of 2012.

[revor]

VW, Bimmer... As long as it's diesel... I can make my own diesel or burn vegi oil, currently $1.50 a gallon for 300 gallons.

[waxthis]

Nice dub!!! Best year TDI in my opinion. Love the hitch....[Beer]

[tmleadr03]

Nice dub!!! Best year TDI in my opinion. Love the hitch....[Beer]

Pulling a fulley loaded small U-Haul trailer across country I got 30 MPG.