Man Beaten, Arrested for Carrying Legal Gun -- or I'm from the government and I'm here to help..

[asmo]

Posting here to go with our other discussion about why people sometimes don't trust the police --- and why sometimes doing nothing wrong and complying with all the officers requests still gets your arse beat.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/i-thought-i-was-going-to-die-minn-man-beaten-arrested-for-carrying-legal-gives-more-details-to-the-blaze/



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Yesterday, we brought you the story of Zachary King, a 35-year-old man from Minneapolis, Minn. who was reportedly beaten and arrested on Father’s Day night by a group of five police officers after they discovered a gun on his waist, seemingly ignoring the fact he was in possession of a valid concealed carry handgun license.
(Related: ‘It’s My Gun’: Minn. Man Beaten, Arrested For Reportedly Carrying Handgun… Despite Having Concealed Carry Permit (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/its-my-gun-minn-man-beaten-arrested-for-reportedly-carrying-handgun-despite-having-concealed-carry-permit/))
In an exclusive interview with The Blaze on Tuesday, King addressed some unanswered questions about the incident while maintaining he did nothing wrong. Now, he wants to see the Minneapolis Police officers brought to justice.
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Zachary King (Source: WCCO)

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(Source: WCCO)


Why did police stop him in the first place?
After leaving a local nightclub, King said he was walking down a Minneapolis street heading towards his truck at around 2:45 a.m. when he observed some police officers in front of him, which he says “wasn’t a problem” because he was doing nothing wrong.
Before making it to his vehicle, though, one of the officers stopped him and asked, “Hey, what’s that bulge under your shirt?”
King said he put his hands in the air and informed the officer that he was in possession of a handgun and a legal concealed carry permit. His permit does not expire until 2017, he said.
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Zachary King's permit to carry a pistol. (Provided by Zachary King)

“He did not ask first to see my permit, he did not ask to see my ID,” King explained. “He just grabbed me by the neck and slammed me against the wall and snatched my gun from its holster, screaming ‘gun! gun! gun!’”
Four additional cops reacted to the commotion and began beating King and slamming his face on the ground, he said.
“I did not resist. I was telling them I wasn’t resisting,” he added. “I was asking, ‘Why are you guys doing this? I have a conceal and carry,‘ but they just kept asking ’Where?,’ still beating me.”
Eventually, one of the police officers went for his wallet and discovered the permit. The beating ceased shortly after, King explained.
When they pulled him from the ground, the pavement was soaked in his blood, he said. Though police wanted to take him straight to jail, he explained, a paramedic confirmed he was in need of medical attention.
“I felt nauseous, dizzy and faint,” King told The Blaze. “I was scared to go to sleep because I thought I wasn’t going to wake up. I thought I was going to die.”

Didn’t drink “one lick”
According to King, the reason he was at a local night club was to see a performance where his friend was working as a show promoter. His wife had suggested he “go have some fun” on Father’s Day, an already somber day considering King and his wife lost their 7-year-old son five years ago after their pit bull mauled the boy. (King was acquitted of manslaughter charges in that case in 2008.)
King says he had not been drinking any alcohol the night he was beaten and arrested and claims he took two separate breathalyzer tests, one administered by the police and another at the hospital. Both readings turned up zero traces of alcohol, he says, although that has not been verified by officials.
“I did not drink one lick at all … . I know I’m not supposed to when I have my gun,” King told The Blaze. “I wanted them to give me a breathalyzer because I knew I hadn’t been drinking anything and they have to try to find a reason for why they beat and arrested me.”
Michael Padden, King’s lawyer, told The Blaze on Tuesday he is trying to get the breathalyzer results released in order to corroborate his client’s story. Padden said he would make the results available to The Blaze once they are confirmed.

“I don’t think cops are bad”
King is charged with misdemeanor obstructing the legal process, which his lawyer argues is a nonsense charge that the Minneapolis Police Department uses when they have roughed up a suspect but have no case against them. Padden says the department has a troubled history of accosting people, particularly African-Americans, as nightclubs are closing.
King will appear in court for the first time on July 2. Padden said it is “probable” the city’s surveillance cameras caught the incident on tape, which he thinks will vindicate his client.
King was also arrested and not charged on April 29 after recording what he says was police brutality after cops allegedly beat his nephew. He was taken to jail and left in a cell for two days before being released. During that time, he said no officer explained the charges against him or told him why he was arrested.
Padden said he is looking into whether King’s recent arrest was some type of retaliation for the previous incident.
Still, King said, “I don’t think cops are bad.”
“There are bad cops just like there are bad people and there are good cops just like there are good people. I just want the bad ones brought to justice.”
Padden added that he and King are still discussing whether or not to file a civil rights lawsuit in the case.
“Zach is 35-years-old with no criminal history. None,” Padden explained. “Even if he didn’t have a conceal and carry permit, which he did, they still didn’t have a reason to beat him up.”
When asked if they would consider any type of a plea bargain, Padden replied, “There is no chance he will plead to anything – over my dead body.”
“Over mine too,” King added.
A spokesperson with the Minneapolis Police Department told The Blaze they can’t comment on the incident because King has filed an open review civil authority case, which is similar to an Internal Affairs investigation.

[Chad4000]

wow.. pretty crazy...

[Lex_Luthor]

That's very unfortunate. I hope he gets justice.

[trlcavscout]

If thats the whole truth i hope he gets justice and takes them to the cleaners! Theirs no place for cops like that. Their may be another side to the story who knows?

[kidicarus13]

Those King guys don't fair so well with the po-lice.

[cstone]

Is there anyone here who believes Mr. King would have been better off fighting with the police in this incident?

I still have faith in the justice system. I have little other choice. I pray that justice will be done in this incident and that bad cops everywhere, where they exist, lose their jobs, and are punished to the full extent of the law.

Be safe.

[HBARleatherneck]

not regarding the story but...

I think the incidents of cops doing wrong are declining. I know it looks the opposite. I know many old time cops from across the country. Many of them have talked to me about the beatings they doled out, And saw doled out.

Since the Rodney King incident, cops are being watched by everyone in society. And now with video and picture phones, that instantly upload to the internet, I believe the rate will continue to drop.

Oversight is good, watching the elected officials and LEO is good. Its good for America, its good for citizens.




Now, the militarization of our police force is another story.

[SuperiorDG]

I think Pavlov would say it's not their fault. Black man + gun = beat the shit out of him.

[Adawg38]

Damn! Messed up, hopefully the officers get their just desserts if Kings story is the truth.

[TFOGGER]

A friend of mine, who is a member here, had a similar, but less severe incident occur when he witnessed a serious car accident and stopped to render aid. After the cops and EMTs arrived, the (rookie) cop that was taking his statement asked to see his ID. My friend handed him his DL and CCW, the cop asked "what's this?", my friend said "It's my concealed weapons permit". "Are you armed?" "Yes, it's on my right hip". At which point, the cop steps back, draws down on him, and yells "GUN" and about 4 of Lakewood's finest proceed to take him to the ground and cuff him. After the dust settled, the ranking officer on the scene apologized profusely and gave my friend the option of either filing an official complaint (thereby possibly ruining the rookie's career), or letting the sergeant handle it informally. He chose to not make a big deal of it, and it paid off down the road when the same cop pulled him over for a minor traffic infraction, recognized him, and chose to let him go with a verbal warning.

[Chad4000]

A friend of mine, who is a member here, had a similar, but less severe incident occur when he witnessed a serious car accident and stopped to render aid. After the cops and EMTs arrived, the (rookie) cop that was taking his statement asked to see his ID. My friend handed him his DL and CCW, the cop asked "what's this?", my friend said "It's my concealed weapons permit". "Are you armed?" "Yes, it's on my right hip". At which point, the cop steps back, draws down on him, and yells "GUN" and about 4 of Lakewood's finest proceed to take him to the ground and cuff him. After the dust settled, the ranking officer on the scene apologized profusely and gave my friend the option of either filing an official complaint (thereby possibly ruining the rookie's career), or letting the sergeant handle it informally. He chose to not make a big deal of it, and it paid off down the road when the same cop pulled him over for a minor traffic infraction, recognized him, and chose to let him go with a verbal warning.


jesus.... wow.... I guess your buddy got the good karma, but damn...

[cstone]

A friend of mine, who is a member here, had a similar, but less severe incident occur when he witnessed a serious car accident and stopped to render aid. After the cops and EMTs arrived, the (rookie) cop that was taking his statement asked to see his ID. My friend handed him his DL and CCW, the cop asked "what's this?", my friend said "It's my concealed weapons permit". "Are you armed?" "Yes, it's on my right hip". At which point, the cop steps back, draws down on him, and yells "GUN" and about 4 of Lakewood's finest proceed to take him to the ground and cuff him. After the dust settled, the ranking officer on the scene apologized profusely and gave my friend the option of either filing an official complaint (thereby possibly ruining the rookie's career), or letting the sergeant handle it informally. He chose to not make a big deal of it, and it paid off down the road when the same cop pulled him over for a minor traffic infraction, recognized him, and chose to let him go with a verbal warning.

Justice comes outside of a courtroom more often than inside one.

Glad to hear another positive story come out of a true screw up. [Beer]

[BushMasterBoy]

Seems the city has some serious problem...Minneapolis always makes me think of Mary Tyler Moore!


http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/09/minneapolis_pay.php

[Uberjager]

Hopefully it will result in more than paid vacation for the involved officers...

[BPTactical]

Funny thing, I have been pulled over twice and both times handed all my pertinent info plus CCW permit to the officers. When asked I did advise them I was carrying and where on my person the weapon was located. Neither asked me to surrender my weapon or the like. One asked what I was carrying and when I told him he said good choice.
Both times were at night and when I pulled over I turned on the interior light.
Both times after running my info the officers returned all my info, advised me of why they pulled me over (expired tag by 10 days and taillight on the other)
No citations.

[10mm-man]

Funny thing, I have been pulled over twice and both times handed all my pertinent info plus CCW permit to the officers. When asked I did advise them I was carrying and where on my person the weapon was located. Neither asked me to surrender my weapon or the like. One asked what I was carrying and when I told him he said good choice.
Both times were at night and when I pulled over I turned on the interior light.
Both times after running my info the officers returned all my info, advised me of why they pulled me over (expired tag by 10 days and taillight on the other)
No citations.

Isn't that just great! Did you invite them over for tea???[ROFL2]

[fitz19d]

Out of 3 traffic stops in last 6 yrs. Different reactions each time.

1st after notification just had me step out while he went to passenger side, cleared it and ran the ssn.

2nd never had me get out and was fine leaving it along with my proof of insurance in the glove box.

3rd again left me in drivers seat, took my xdm back to his car (to be ran I assume or just to hold onto while doing his other stuff). Returned it to me field stripped with the excuse of not wanting me to cap him in the back as he went back to car. (also asked me what I know of ccw law without a permit etc, responded confidantly with CO law on why it can be concealed in vehicle/in glove box etc and I fully understand when I get out it would have to be open etc.) Backed down saying he'd have to check those laws out.


Of course 3rd is the only one that gave me a ticket.

[Irving]

A friend of mine, who is a member here, had a similar, but less severe incident occur when he witnessed a serious car accident and stopped to render aid. After the cops and EMTs arrived, the (rookie) cop that was taking his statement asked to see his ID. My friend handed him his DL and CCW, the cop asked "what's this?", my friend said "It's my concealed weapons permit". "Are you armed?" "Yes, it's on my right hip". At which point, the cop steps back, draws down on him, and yells "GUN" and about 4 of Lakewood's finest proceed to take him to the ground and cuff him. After the dust settled, the ranking officer on the scene apologized profusely and gave my friend the option of either filing an official complaint (thereby possibly ruining the rookie's career), or letting the sergeant handle it informally. He chose to not make a big deal of it, and it paid off down the road when the same cop pulled him over for a minor traffic infraction, recognized him, and chose to let him go with a verbal warning.

I would have offered not to press any charges if I could punch the rookie cop straight in the mouth.

[waxthis]

I would have offered not to press any charges if I could punch the rookie cop straight in the mouth.

[Awesom]

[Colorado_Outback]

I would have offered not to press any charges if I could punch the rookie cop straight in the mouth.

At the very least! I don't like guns pointed at me.. especially by overzealous rookies.

[Ronin13]

Is there anyone here who believes Mr. King would have been better off fighting with the police in this incident?

I still have faith in the justice system. I have little other choice. I pray that justice will be done in this incident and that bad cops everywhere, where they exist, lose their jobs, and are punished to the full extent of the law.

Be safe.

Yes, fighting them in court. Sue the bejesus out of them for excessive force and whatever else. He did nothing wrong, he even said he wasn't resisting, but never fight them in the street, especially if there are more than one of them. I'd rather fight police brutality in court than have to defend myself in court for shooting a cop in legal defense for abuse of power. I do think that there are more good cops than bad, but when you encounter a bad one- if you don't feel your life in immediate danger- best to fight it out after the fact in the court room.
Cstone, your "be safe" is one of the most appropriate departing lines.