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asmo
06-28-2012, 13:22
A perfect democracy, a "warm body" democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens... which is opposed by the folly and-lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes for his own self-interest as he sees it... which for the majority translates as "Bread and Circuses".

"Bread and Circuses" is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, the day marks the beginning of the end of that state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader - the barbarians enter Rome.'

― Robert A. Heinlein



Just seemed like we needed some more Heinlein today..

spyder
06-28-2012, 13:39
We're a Republic...

JohnTRourke
06-28-2012, 13:42
We're a Republic...


yeah, til about 50 years ago
we haven't been a republic in a long time.

[BooHoo]

Zundfolge
06-28-2012, 13:42
We're a Republic...
Not anymore.

Wiggity
06-28-2012, 13:51
We are a Constitutional Sociopublic

MountainMax74
06-28-2012, 13:55
A perfect democracy, a "warm body" democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens... which is opposed by the folly and-lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes for his own self-interest as he sees it... which for the majority translates as "Bread and Circuses".

"Bread and Circuses" is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, the day marks the beginning of the end of that state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader - the barbarians enter Rome.'

― Robert A. Heinlein



Just seemed like we needed some more Heinlein today..

++++++1

spyder
06-28-2012, 13:57
Thomas Jefferson was a smart man...

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness"

--Declaration of Independence as originally written by Thomas Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

Sharpienads
06-28-2012, 14:33
So was Samuel Adams


Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, What should be the reward of such sacrifices? Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plow, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom--go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!

-Samuel Adams, delivered at the State House in Philadelphia, August 1, 1776

Ronin13
06-28-2012, 16:05
I think this one is a very fitting quote especially with the rise of these leeches and socialists:

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...

Those who make peaceful revolt impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-John Fitzgerald Kennedy