View Full Version : Who is the city of Aurora protecting and serving with this beast?
tmleadr03
06-29-2012, 12:40
The officer inside got defensive when I asked him which citizen of Aurora he was protecting himself against after he mentioned the vehicle could take multiple shots from a 50 caliber round.
"There are a lot of people with 50 caliber firearms!" he said.
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HA ha your tax dollars at work, and you do not have to be a member of Mensa to be an LEO.
Saw one like that here in the Springs and couldn't figure out why they have one!
Zombies can chew through a standard automobile exterior.
BPTactical
06-29-2012, 12:54
In best Cartman voice: "You will respect my authoritie!"
HA ha your tax dollars at work, and you do not have to be a member of Mensa to be an LEO.
Also shopping at Target on our Dime...IE: Bag by passenger side door.
RCCrawler
06-29-2012, 13:03
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Looks like they can't park worth a shit either.
sic_semper_tyrannis
06-29-2012, 13:05
Well, the cops actually do have to deal with armed people shooting at them from fortified positions, and in those cases it would be very nice to arrive in something other than a Crown Vic or a tricked-out Huffy. Barricades, hostage/downed officer rescue, and sustained gunfire situations would all be examples of when that thing would be not only useful, but reasonable. The cops' general prerogative to "not die" trumps uppity cop-haters' prerogative to not be offended by heavy equipment in the hands of a public employee.
As for costs, equipment like this is usually a free or heavily discounted giveaway via federal surplus hand-me-downs. And the officer probably "got defensive" because he knew exactly what you really meant when you asked the question, and felt no need to bother someone who loathed him so much simply because of his occupation.
i swear there is a rocket booster button on that panel
Looks like quite the penis enhancer.
Our tax dollar a work to fund their toys. [Roll1]
The officer inside got defensive when I asked him which citizen of Aurora he was protecting himself against after he mentioned the vehicle could take multiple shots from a 50 caliber round.
"There are a lot of people with 50 caliber firearms!" he said.
Eh, you shoulda looked real closely at the door and muttered something about how you have some .50 API rounds that would go through that, no sweat.....
Eh, you shoulda looked real closely at the door and muttered something about how you have some .50 API rounds that would go through that, no sweat.....
Ron I'll give you a few .50 API if you wanna go mumble that to them..
Well, the cops actually do have to deal with armed people shooting at them from fortified positions, and in those cases it would be very nice to arrive in something other than a Crown Vic or a tricked-out Huffy. Barricades, hostage/downed officer rescue, and sustained gunfire situations would all be examples of when that thing would be not only useful, but reasonable.
Not bagging on the cops ( I have a number of friends on APD), but I defy ANYONE to cite a circumstance in the last 20 years in Aurora, where this vehicle would have been deployable in a timely fashion to make a difference in a law enforcement situation. This is an example of APD receiving a DHS grant and because of the restrictions in the grant, having to spend the money on "something cool/tactial/antiterrorist", rather than training for existing officers or putting more officers on the force. [PoPo]
CrufflerSteve
06-29-2012, 13:17
Since 9/11 there have been a lot of anti-terrorism grants from the Feds to local police. If your grant proposal sounds good you get money. Obviously, portable donut making machines for cop cars aren't cool but tanks and other hard core stuff is.
Steve
JohnTRourke
06-29-2012, 13:21
So, who still thinks we don't live in a police state???????
Rucker61
06-29-2012, 13:28
I could have sworn I saw a Cadillac Gage Commando in Ft Collins police livery a few years ago.
HBARleatherneck
06-29-2012, 13:35
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ScooterCO
06-29-2012, 13:37
I am lookin at that door, and thinking a .50 will clear both sides like they were left open..
Zundfolge
06-29-2012, 13:38
So, who still thinks we don't live in a police state???????
^^THIS
The reason the feds give all this paramilitary gear to local PD is to get around Posse Comitatus ... some day they'll federalize all these militarized local police agencies and turn them on the people. After yesterday I expect that day to be much sooner than later.
Ron I'll give you a few .50 API if you wanna go mumble that to them..
I ain't gonna go looking for the beast, but IMO such a comment would certainly be harmless. Anybody that would take it seriously has real issues.
But a .50 API would go nicely on my collection shelf! Wanna sell one?
I love that it says "RESCUE" on it.
armstrong001
06-29-2012, 14:15
Also shopping at Target on our Dime...IE: Bag by passenger side door.
Eh, could just be his lunch. I take my lunch to work in a shopping bag most days.
HBARleatherneck
06-29-2012, 14:18
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I ain't gonna go looking for the beast, but IMO such a comment would certainly be harmless. Anybody that would take it seriously has real issues.
But a .50 API would go nicely on my collection shelf! Wanna sell one?
Hell I'd give ya one. Not like I ever get to go shoot it.. stupid j o b.
It would be a harmless comment, but I'm sure the officers wouldn't take it as such. Unless you knew them. But random cop on the street would probably over-react.
tmleadr03
06-29-2012, 15:04
I also asked about how well it did against IEDs. He said it couldnt keep moving but would probably keep them alive.
Did you ask him if it would stop a round from your 20mm?[Tooth]
nice waste of money. I have a hard time believing that door will stop a .50 API. I'm going to look for youtube videos to see if it is possible.
HBARleatherneck
06-29-2012, 15:09
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and its definitely penis envy.
"so, if they get one, we need one too" thats called penis envy.
Ask him if it will stop a thrust from Ron Jeremy's penis
Fist_gonzo
06-29-2012, 15:22
I work for,a amored truck company, all our old shit is donated or sold for real cheap, last one we sold to a,swat eam in utah for $10, those truck look tougher than they are
flan7211
06-29-2012, 15:22
Why are the feds giving grants for anti-terrorism? Bullshit how is that going to stop terrorists? Its for use on our own citizens.
Why are the feds giving grants for anti-terrorism? Bullshit how is that going to stop terrorists? Its for use on our own citizens.
You forget the homeland security definition of terrorist
well I watched a couple videos. it punched through 1 inch of steel, and this video, especially the background music was very interesting![Tooth]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWwcJHmZYJ8&feature=related
Why are the feds giving grants for anti-terrorism? Bullshit how is that going to stop terrorists? Its for use on our own citizens.
Pelosi calls us right winged terrorists, remember.
flan7211
06-29-2012, 15:30
Pelosi calls us right winged terrorists, remember.
Oh yeah. [M2]
lpgasman
06-29-2012, 15:40
Why are the feds giving grants for anti-terrorism? Bullshit how is that going to stop terrorists? Its for use on our own citizens.
If you own a gun you are a terrorist, aren't you?
Shouldn't they send that thing somewhere a little more....umm....sandy.
Shouldn't they send that thing somewhere a little more....umm....sandy.
or hotter...like AZ or NM or TX along the border?
i bet money it wont.
i have put 50bmg ball rounds through over 3/4" steel plate. api and apit rounds are not going to stop without penetrating. flat walls in an armored vehicle arent the best. no deflection of the energy of the round.
.30-06 M2 AP from the 50's will penetrate 3/4" steel plate. Depending on the steel, of course. This is a RR tie plate, no idea how tough it is, but .30 AP will fuck it up right well.
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SideShow Bob
06-29-2012, 16:54
Not bagging on the cops ( I have a number of friends on APD), but I defy ANYONE to cite a circumstance in the last 20 years in Aurora, where this vehicle would have been deployable in a timely fashion to make a difference in a law enforcement situation. This is an example of APD receiving a DHS grant and because of the restrictions in the grant, having to spend the money on "something cool/tactial/antiterrorist", rather than training for existing officers or putting more officers on the force. [PoPo]
They are getting prepared in case someone goes all Granby in an armored bulldozer in Aurora. My money would still be on the dozer.......[LOL]
Guess I need to upsize the caliber of at least one firearm.
hammer03
06-29-2012, 18:40
I work for,a amored truck company, all our old shit is donated or sold for real cheap, last one we sold to a,swat eam in utah for $10, those truck look tougher than they are
I've always wanted to get one, and make it a camper. Those things can SCOOT even loaded up with money/armor/troops/gear, but I think it would probably need some suspension work to make a suitable off-roader....
Would be cool if I could fit my 2002 in the back, imagine rolling up to a track day in an armored car as a tow vehicle... haha
brokenscout
06-29-2012, 19:21
Pretty sure some of you guys(terrorists) will see that thing in your front lawn sooooon:)[Coffee]
SideShow Bob
06-29-2012, 19:39
Pretty sure some of you guys(terrorists) will see that thing in your front lawn sooooon:)[Coffee]
Guess I'll have to buy that missile case that is in the trading post, drag it out when they show up just to see how fast they back out the way they came in.
[ROFL1][ROFL1]
Byte Stryke
06-29-2012, 20:16
They are protecting their job security!
My law and order, or else I'll drive this cement truck to your house? Stupid!
mevshooter
06-29-2012, 21:06
Guys, guys, guys...
You're looking at this ALL wrong.
In case of a zombie apocalypse/shtf/eotwawki, if you survive, you JUST MIGHT happen upon this sweet vehicle and drive it through a few stores/houses in the Southlands Area.
Money well spent!
[Tooth]
Guys, guys, guys...
You're looking at this ALL wrong.
In case of a zombie apocalypse/shtf/eotwawki, if you survive, you JUST MIGHT happen upon this sweet vehicle and drive it through a few stores/houses in the Southlands Area.
Money well spent!
[Tooth]
screw that. I know where I'm going to get equipment[Tooth]
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