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Just had to put this out there...
Luigi's saga (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/05/colorado-man-calls-theft-vote-satan-sign-from-home-hate-crime/?test=latestnews)is now linked on the Foxnews home-page...made me smile when I saw it.
Latest News - Man calls theft of 'vote Satan' sign a hate crime (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/05/colorado-man-calls-theft-vote-satan-sign-from-home-hate-crime/?test=latestnews)
I'm just hoping this one doesn't spiral out of control like the last two... :D
Congrats Luigi, you're now famous!
Sharpienads
07-05-2012, 15:09
In before the eventual lock.
LOL way to go FoxNews.... I guess they want to be fair and balanced and don't get much news in-flow about Satanists, so they jumped at the chance. I hope Luigi's sign is returned anonymously :)
Byte Stryke
07-05-2012, 15:31
IBL
and Luigi, I've got your back
[Alrigh]
Cool
Go Luigi! Don't let the bastards get you down.
If we don't stand for Luigi and his choice who is going to stand for you and your choice?
How pathetic.
There are important things this country should be worrying about.
Lets make a big deal out of some stupid ass sign getting chopped off instead of worrying about the economy, healthcare, elections, wars, violent crime, etc.
But NOOOOO this satanist crying about hate crimes is serious business.
http://danluan.org/files/u1/sub02/edward-norton-closing-laptop.gif
SuperiorDG
07-05-2012, 15:41
How pathetic.
There are important things this country should be worrying about.
Lets make a big deal out of some stupid ass sign getting chopped off instead of worrying about the economy, healthcare, elections, wars, violent crime, etc.
But NOOOOO this satanist crying about hate crimes is serious business.
Time for a drink.[Pepsi]
What's wrong with be concerned about too many things?[Beer]
What's wrong with be concerned about too many things?[Beer]
When did I say anything about too many things?
How pathetic.
There are important things this country should be worrying about.
Lets make a big deal out of some stupid ass sign getting chopped off instead of worrying about the economy, healthcare, elections, wars, violent crime, etc.
But NOOOOO this satanist crying about hate crimes is serious business.
Yes you're so right... more important things- like "America's Got Talent" and "Who cooks better? This British guy who is an asshole, or this Australian guy who is an asshole?" Seriously? Let's also make a big deal out of what Gweneth Paltrow wore to some random event last night.... This is America, we can multitask, if you have nothing relevant to add to the discussion you don't have to comment. [Beer]
Chad4000
07-05-2012, 15:48
How pathetic.
There are important things this country should be worrying about.
Lets make a big deal out of some stupid ass sign getting chopped off instead of worrying about the economy, healthcare, elections, wars, violent crime, etc.
But NOOOOO this satanist crying about hate crimes is serious business.
http://danluan.org/files/u1/sub02/edward-norton-closing-laptop.gif
at least that .gif is awesome hahaaha
JM Ver. 2.0
07-05-2012, 15:49
In before lock.....
Luigi, I might not agree with your religion... But by God, you give em hell, sir!
In before lock.....
Luigi, I might not agree with your religion... But by God, you give em hell, sir!
Give who hell?
bobbyfairbanks
07-05-2012, 15:53
Silly sign. The police even said it is just vandalism. Now If they pulled the sign and replaced it with some serious anti satan stuff then it would be a hate crime. My beef is that this has become a issue just because some one doesn't know the difference.
ChunkyMonkey
07-05-2012, 15:56
sigh.. new thread per new article on the same subject?
[Muaha]
If he had worn a pair of blue overalls during the interview with a green shirt.. it would have made it awesome.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/energizrmonky/images.jpg
Fist_gonzo
07-05-2012, 16:06
If he had worn a pair of green overalls during the interview.. it would have made it awesome.
[ROFL3] I now have the stupid Mario bros. Song stuck in my head
Chad4000
07-05-2012, 16:09
[ROFL3] I now have the stupid Mario bros. Song stuck in my head
or better yet,, Dane Cook singing it.. lol
"bleeep bleeep bleeep.,, bleep bleepbleep bebleep "
haha lol
BushMasterBoy
07-05-2012, 16:14
What if Satan himself swooped down and snagged it...didn't think of that did ya?
What if Satan himself swooped down and snagged it...didn't think of that did ya?
Then Luigi would be accusing his master, satan, of a hate crime.....
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/993/tumblr_m0wb2xz9Yh1r08e3p.jpg
Scanker19
07-05-2012, 16:38
How pathetic.
There are important things this country should be worrying about.
Lets make a big deal out of some stupid ass sign getting chopped off instead of worrying about the economy, healthcare, elections, wars, violent crime, etc.
But NOOOOO this satanist crying about hate crimes is serious business.
http://danluan.org/files/u1/sub02/edward-norton-closing-laptop.gif
How dare those people and their fucking "rights." Boo to rights....
How dare those people and their fucking "rights." Boo to rights....
Where did I say anything about "boo to rights?"
I'm all for rights. But when a satanist is crying about a torn sign and it makes national news.....it might as well be a minority in school with a stolen black pencil crying about hate crimes.
But NOOOO we need the gubment to handle all of our little shit because we can't take care of ourselves, right?
Great-Kazoo
07-05-2012, 16:51
Where did I say anything about "boo to rights?"
I'm all for rights. But when a satanist is crying about a torn sign and it makes national news.....it might as well be a minority in school with a stolen black pencil crying about hate crimes.
But NOOOO we need the gubment to handle all of our little shit because we can't take care of ourselves, right?
This is highlighting how absurd the "Hate Crime" stature is. I believe that was one of bellavites points from the get go.
Stupid or not his beliefs should be protected as anyone else would be.
Then Luigi would be accusing his master, satan, of a hate crime.....
Maybe Satan figures Obummer is doing more damage than he could and doesn't want to run for office.. [Coffee]
This is highlighting how absurd the "Hate Crime" stature is. I believe that was one of bellavites points from the get go.
Stupid or not his beliefs should be protected as anyone else would be.
Way to stoop to their level!!!!! That'll show em.
How on earth will this change the thought process of people who are proponents of the whole "hate crime" thing?
Especially when so much stupid shit like this has already happened and those people STILL believe justice is being done.
whiskeyjack
07-05-2012, 17:08
I cant help but notice your south park avatar.
Byte Stryke
07-05-2012, 17:12
you needed more vandalism to qualify as a hate crime
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=8651969
Police say the extensive vandalism of an historic Santa Cruz church may qualify as a hate crime.
flan7211
07-05-2012, 17:13
Haha IBL
I cant help but notice your south park avatar.
You watch southpark too! nice!
This whole situation would make an excellent episode
Rooskibar03
07-05-2012, 17:24
When this story was mentioned and pictures shown on GBTV's Real News from The Blaze I knew it had jumped the shark.
wctriumph
07-05-2012, 17:28
I've tried to find the video TV reports and I may not have found them all but what I did find doesn't yet ad up to 15 minutes.
Luigi, keep on keepin' on and you will get that 15 minutes of fame.
Yeah, baby!!!!
[Flower]
Bailey Guns
07-05-2012, 17:28
I'm no Satanist but...wouldn't Satan condone hate? I mean, he's gotta be a pretty bad dude. Probably all full of hate himself. If that's the case, how can this even be a crime?
hghclsswhitetrsh
07-05-2012, 17:54
If someone stole my manger scene from my Christmas display I wouldnt consider it a hate crime, I would consider it some dumb fucking people that were low lives took it. There is a matter of principle that someone went on your property and took something that was yours, which like everyone here has agreed its wrong. Doesn't an item have to exceed a certain dollar amount before its considered a theft worthy of prosecution or suit?(honestly not sure on this one, just want if heard dunno...) Cry a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
10mm-man
07-05-2012, 18:06
WOW! What does this make Thread number 3?? Add up all that exposure and i am sure he is past 15min.... TIMES UP! Close
Byte Stryke
07-05-2012, 18:14
http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2010/2/24/129114800978539565.jpg&sa=X&ei=vi32T7vFOMa7rQHG58mLCQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFplTF4NPKHmcobgCfbVpmZAUebhg
lpgasman
07-05-2012, 18:20
What if Satan himself swooped down and snagged it...didn't think of that did ya?
Wouldn't he have to swoop up?
Wouldn't he have to swoop up?
Hmmmm....indeed
JM Ver. 2.0
07-05-2012, 18:27
Give who hell?
People like you. [LOL]
People like you. [LOL]
Clearly a well thought out response, what do you have against me?
This is highlighting how absurd the "Hate Crime" stature is. I believe that was one of bellavites points from the get go.
Stupid or not his beliefs should be protected as anyone else would be.
YES! This exactly, Wiggity, that's the point he's trying to make, I think, that people see how absurd this is and go "wow, hate crime is kinda a dumb thing." 'Course ya know the majority is too dumb to draw that conclusion. But the overall point here is that his property was trespassed upon and vandalized (albeit small, but where do we draw the line?), and Luigi believes (correct me if I'm wrong) that there would be a huge outcry if it was Catholic or Jewish, but because he's a non-conformist Satanist, it's no big deal right? Bullshit, equality is a two way street.
You watch southpark too! nice!
This whole situation would make an excellent episode
Shhh! I think they're gonna do it, don't blow it! [ROFL1] Trey and Matt are usually pretty good about satirizing the most recent news, let's hope they do just to further (what I believe is) Luigi's point! [Beer]
BTW- for the record, I don't know what they were subjected to, but I went to the same high school as Trey Parker and I don't have that kind of genius for comedy...
YES! This exactly, Wiggity, that's the point he's trying to make, I think, that people see how absurd this is and go "wow, hate crime is kinda a dumb thing." 'Course ya know the majority is too dumb to draw that conclusion. But the overall point here is that his property was trespassed upon and vandalized (albeit small, but where do we draw the line?), and Luigi believes (correct me if I'm wrong) that there would be a huge outcry if it was Catholic or Jewish, but because he's a non-conformist Satanist, it's no big deal right? Bullshit, equality is a two way street.
Yes I realize that.
I just think its an effing stupid and ineffective way of making that point.
lpgasman
07-05-2012, 18:42
Getting good, raaaaarr!
JM Ver. 2.0
07-05-2012, 18:43
Clearly a well thought out response, what do you have against me?
Nothing. I just think you're over reacting and find it amusing that you're so upset over all this.
streetglideok
07-05-2012, 18:48
I dont care who it is, this still does not qualify as a hate crime, except in the eyes of the accuser. The poster that was torn down allegedly said "vote satan", but made no reference to any religion. It made a political statement, therefore, it was not an attack on his religion. The reason I worded that it was allegedly, is because, we saw a picture of a poster that resembled it, but we have no idea what was really there when the poster was torn down. It could have said "satan is god", then it would be a hate crime, but then it may have said "vote satan", or may have said "free candy" at the time of its removal. We have only circumstantial evidence.
TriggerHappy
07-05-2012, 18:49
IBL... While JM2.0 is Pushing buttons.!!
Great-Kazoo
07-05-2012, 19:03
Way to stoop to their level!!!!! That'll show em.
How on earth will this change the thought process of people who are proponents of the whole "hate crime" thing?
Especially when so much stupid shit like this has already happened and those people STILL believe justice is being done.
Your AC crap out?? One guy i know just kicked it yesterday from a heat stroke, let's not double down.
jerrymrc
07-05-2012, 19:04
I look at it like this. As many have said; Good, bad, right or wrong I will defend your right to say it.
I do not think anyone of the staff has deleted any posts in any of the threads relating to this topic. Even though new ones keep popping up like weeds I truly believe that a few members just want a chance to go on about it.
We have let them run there course until they become one big "ME TOO!!!"
So after feeling they have run there course I have closed them. I am not alone in this thought. I believe this is the 4th thread on the subject. Are the members that bored that all they can do is drag it up again? [Bang]
Tell ya what. I will leave this open to comments for the evening. If any think I am being heavy handed I welcome you to try this trick on other Firearms forums.
I just happen to be the Hatchet Man these days but it is not done without a vote if ya catch my drift. [Coffee]
whiskeyjack
07-05-2012, 19:12
I look at it like this. As many have said; Good, bad, right or wrong I will defend your right to say it.
I do not think anyone of the staff has deleted any posts in any of the threads relating to this topic. Even though new ones keep popping up like weeds I truly believe that a few members just want a chance to go on about it.
We have let them run there course until they become one big "ME TOO!!!"
So after feeling they have run there course I have closed them. I am not alone in this thought. I believe this is the 4th thread on the subject. Are the members that bored that all they can do is drag it up again? [Bang]
Tell ya what. I will leave this open to comments for the evening. If any think I am being heavy handed I welcome you to try this trick on other Firearms forums.
I just happen to be the Hatchet Man these days but it is not done without a vote if ya catch my drift. [Coffee]
kill 'em all let God sort them out.
I look at it like this. As many have said; Good, bad, right or wrong I will defend your right to say it.
I do not think anyone of the staff has deleted any posts in any of the threads relating to this topic. Even though new ones keep popping up like weeds I truly believe that a few members just want a chance to go on about it.
We have let them run there course until they become one big "ME TOO!!!"
So after feeling they have run there course I have closed them. I am not alone in this thought. I believe this is the 4th thread on the subject. Are the members that bored that all they can do is drag it up again? [Bang]
Tell ya what. I will leave this open to comments for the evening. If any think I am being heavy handed I welcome you to try this trick on other Firearms forums.
I just happen to be the Hatchet Man these days but it is not done without a vote if ya catch my drift. [Coffee]
Jerry, well put! This is one of the few places (if not the ONLY) on the interwebz that will allow some of the things that go on to just slide... Yes this horse has been beaten pretty hard, but I think it shows with 4 threads that it's not dead yet. It's kind of a hot button issue involving one of our fellow members, who I think we can all safely say regardless of meeting him in person or not (I'm in the not category but hope to change that) we support him regardless of his religious or spiritual affiliations. I firmly believe the underlying theme to this issue is that Luigi is pointing out the hypocracy and inequality in our society that is supposed to be so tolerant. Simply put, in the words of Ridge "Promote tolerance!" You may not agree with it, you may think his going about the situation is dumb, but in the end, is he not an American like us? Entitled to the same justice as the rest of us enjoy?
streetglideok
07-05-2012, 19:33
kill 'em all let God sort them out.
Lol now that is not very PC, and insensitive to the victim here. After all, wouldn't it be Satan that would sort it out, not god? [Pop]
I look at it like this. As many have said; Good, bad, right or wrong I will defend your right to say it.
I do not think anyone of the staff has deleted any posts in any of the threads relating to this topic. Even though new ones keep popping up like weeds I truly believe that a few members just want a chance to go on about it.
We have let them run there course until they become one big "ME TOO!!!"
So after feeling they have run there course I have closed them. I am not alone in this thought. I believe this is the 4th thread on the subject. Are the members that bored that all they can do is drag it up again? [Bang]
Tell ya what. I will leave this open to comments for the evening. If any think I am being heavy handed I welcome you to try this trick on other Firearms forums.
I just happen to be the Hatchet Man these days but it is not done without a vote if ya catch my drift. [Coffee]
You folks are the best Jerry, you know that and you treat us too well (a sh!tload of rope doled out around here). You also know this was shear fun my man...sincerely. Besides, I couldn't think of a more stoopid/humorous thread title when I first saw this but...c'mon...phuck this is funny...our own little COAR thread as recent as ~2 weeks ago now on the Fox home page today...that is just irony that is too damn funny not to jump on, I'm obligated.
heh heh
[Pot]
Byte Stryke
07-05-2012, 20:22
YES!
Someone is in trouble and it's NOT ME!!!
[Neene1]
jerrymrc
07-05-2012, 20:31
YES!
Someone is in trouble and it's NOT ME!!!
[Neene1]
Your down right boring these days. [LOL][Kick3]
TriggerHappy
07-05-2012, 20:35
YES!
Someone is in trouble and it's NOT ME!!!
[Neene1]
That's a first!!![LOL]
bellavite1
07-05-2012, 20:42
YES! This exactly, Wiggity, that's the point he's trying to make, I think, that people see how absurd this is and go "wow, hate crime is kinda a dumb thing." 'Course ya know the majority is too dumb to draw that conclusion. But the overall point here is that his property was trespassed upon and vandalized (albeit small, but where do we draw the line?), and Luigi believes (correct me if I'm wrong) that there would be a huge outcry if it was Catholic or Jewish, but because he's a non-conformist Satanist, it's no big deal right? Bullshit, equality is a two way street.
Shhh! I think they're gonna do it, don't blow it! [ROFL1] Trey and Matt are usually pretty good about satirizing the most recent news, let's hope they do just to further (what I believe is) Luigi's point! [Beer]
BTW- for the record, I don't know what they were subjected to, but I went to the same high school as Trey Parker and I don't have that kind of genius for comedy...
You are correct Sir.
And with this I'm out, I don't like repeating myself and deaf ears won't hear anyways.
Thank you.[Beer]
bellavite1
07-05-2012, 20:52
Oh, and by the way,I am pretty over this myself: police still thinks it's just a theft and the most intelligent comment on the news web sites has been something to the effect of "I think all Satanists should die, if someone can do it without getting caught I think they should kill them"...
So, like I said, what's the point?[Bang]
YES!
Someone is in trouble and it's NOT ME!!!
[Neene1]
Ope...ban him. :D
Byte Stryke
07-05-2012, 20:54
Your down right boring these days. [LOL][Kick3]
you're
:D
That's a first!!![LOL]
inorite?
Oh, and by the way,I am pretty over this myself: police still thinks it's just a theft and the most intelligent comment on the news web sites has been something to the effect of "I think all Satanists should die, if someone can do it without getting caught I think they should kill them"...
So, like I said, what's the point?[Bang]
There's that tolerance and 1st amendment for ya.
The first amendment exists to protect things we don't agree with. I hate Nazis but they have the right to free speech and as much as I hate them I'll defend their right.
argonstrom
07-05-2012, 21:15
So... Wiggity posts something contrary to the majority here, speaking his own mind, and so many beat him down for it?
Wow, guys.
I'm no Satanist but...wouldn't Satan condone hate? I mean, he's gotta be a pretty bad dude. Probably all full of hate himself. If that's the case, how can this even be a crime?
I was wondering that myself... Didn't satan put whoever did this up to the job?
Wouldn't he have to swoop up?
[LOL]
I would like to know though, when does theft or vandalizm move from a petty retard crime, to a hate crime? So some dumb kid that really loved that sign or thought it was cool, cuts it down to have in his bedroom, committed a hate crime?
If it was some bible thumper that came to a screeching hault in her car to jump out all pissy like to run up your porch and chop down your sign and burn it later, I can see that as a hate crime, maybe. Or it could just be some dumb bitch being a, well, a bitch....
This subject reminds me of when one of my kids takes the others hair tie or something stupid like that, and they want them to be punished like the decked the other....
I firmly believe in an eye for an eye, so how about if you get to go cut down one of their lawn ornaments? There is such a thing as blowing things out of proportion. [Beer]
Oh, and in before this gets shut down!
sneakerd
07-05-2012, 22:01
[Bed]
So... Wiggity posts something contrary to the majority here, speaking his own mind, and so many beat him down for it?
Wow, guys.
Tolerance camp. Where intolerance is not tolerated.
I dont care who it is, this still does not qualify as a hate crime, except in the eyes of the accuser. The poster that was torn down allegedly said "vote satan", but made no reference to any religion. It made a political statement, therefore, it was not an attack on his religion. The reason I worded that it was allegedly, is because, we saw a picture of a poster that resembled it, but we have no idea what was really there when the poster was torn down. It could have said "satan is god", then it would be a hate crime, but then it may have said "vote satan", or may have said "free candy" at the time of its removal. We have only circumstantial evidence.
This is the entire point, that there is no such thing as a hate crime. By your definition, a black kid getting beat up wouldn't be a hate crime, because being black isn't a religion.
Lord... This again. And we seem to be in a circular pattern for 2 pages here. There must be a forward moving direction for conversation in this thread... what is it?
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