Shooting/fire bans

[tmckay2]

Can we use this thread to update when shooting/fire bans are lifted since it finally rained?

[keylay31]

I'm just waiting for the campfire ban to be lifted. I just can't bring myself to go camping without a good campfire!

[rocktot]

Yes, should be stickied, can you sticki it?

[tmckay2]

im partially afraid the libs might not allow shooting all summer. hope im wrong. if anyone hears anything be sure to post. i know what you mean about the camp fire im the same way

[islandermyk]

PACMAN89 gave a call to the Forest Park Rangers and was told it'll take 3 solid days of rain for them to lift the fire ban...

[theGinsue]

Of course, many counties and areas of the National Forest, etc. still have fire bans in effect.



(CNN) -- Much-needed rain and forecasts predicting cooler and wetter weather prompted Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper to lift a statewide fire ban Sunday.

"Mother Nature is finally giving us some relief," Hickenlooper said in a statement. "Even though the 2012 wildfire season is far from over and still challenging, we believe conditions are such that local authorities and federal land managers ought to resume control over fire bans in their jurisdictions."
A number of Colorado counties have fire bans in place, which will remain unchanged by Hickenlooper's action, his office said.

Colorado has been plagued by several major fires recently, including the devastating Waldo Canyon blaze, which scorched more than 18,000 acres since beginning June 23 and destroyed 346 homes in Colorado Springs. The fire -- the most destructive in Colorado's history -- was 98% contained as of Sunday, officials said.

The High Park fire, which burned more than 87,000 acres and destroyed nearly 260 homes in northern Colorado, was 100% contained, officials said.
Two other fires, the Weber fire and the Little Sand fire, were at 90% and 40% containment, respectively, as of Sunday, the governor's office said. No new fires were being monitored or supported by the Colorado Office of Emergency Management.

The statewide fire ban, issued June 14, applied to open burning, including campfires, warming fires, charcoal grill fires, fused explosives and private use of fireworks, officials said.

More than 60 Colorado counties were forecast to move to moderate or low danger over the next week, although a few counties continue to experience high fire danger, the governor's office said. The wildfire season will continue for a few more months, and the governor will reactivate the fire ban if needed.

The U.S. Forest Service, Department of the Interior, Defense Department and the Federal Emergency Management Agency were providing support to Colorado and other states affected by wildfires and flash flooding, authorities said Sunday.

President Barack Obama on June 28 approved a disaster declaration for Colorado, as well as federal assistance for victims of the High Park and Waldo Canyon fires.

On Monday, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar will visit Colorado Springs to survey wildfire response efforts and thank those battling the blaze, authorities said.

[Ah Pook]

Not much is changing around here.


BOULDER COUNTY & CITY (http://www.bouldercounty.org/pages/default.aspx)

Fire restrictions in place. Fire danger is Very High.

http://www.coemergency.com/p/fire-bans-and-fire-danger-rating.html

[twitchyfinger]

Most counties still have enacted Fire Bans that are greater than the Statewide Ban. Wouldn't mind the shooting ban to be lifted though.

http://www.coemergency.com/p/fire-bans-and-fire-danger-rating.html

[BPTactical]

While this moisture is great, realistically it does very little to lower the overall fire danger. Short term, great but all we need is one or two weeks of 80-90's and little humidity and we are right back in the same spot we were two weeks ago.

Pollytickians sure are great at knee jerk reactions aren't they..........

[DSB OUTDOORS]

I'm still gona be a grade A+ Asshole!! I see anything I don't aprove of here in the hills. I'm gona call *CSP First, and shoot 2ND!! [Coffee]

[Ah Pook]

I'm still gona be a grade A+ Asshole!!
We'd expect nothing less. [Tooth]

[DSB OUTDOORS]

We'd expect nothing less. [Tooth]
And I thank you!! [Beer]

[Wiggity]

I'm still gona be a grade A+ Asshole!! I see anything I don't aprove of here in the hills. I'm gona call *CSP First, and shoot 2ND!! [Coffee]

What are you going to shoot?

[DSB OUTDOORS]

What are you going to shoot?
The cig's out of their mouths!!! And then the sparks!! [Beer]

[spittoon]

While this moisture is great, realistically it does very little to lower the overall fire danger. Short term, great but all we need is one or two weeks of 80-90's and little humidity and we are right back in the same spot we were two weeks ago.

Pollytickians sure are great at knee jerk reactions aren't they..........
Sad but true just pray for the monsoon to keep it up

[tmckay2]

PACMAN89 gave a call to the Forest Park Rangers and was told it'll take 3 solid days of rain for them to lift the fire ban...

well weve got nearly two

[hatidua]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31255925/detail.html

[keylay31]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31255925/detail.html


That map hasn't been updated since July 3rd

[yankeefan98121]

Sad but true just pray for the monsoon to keep it up

Unfortunately, keeping up the monsoon would create a whole new on slot of issues.
I'm not saying I the don't enjoy seeing the rain, seems like it's the electon choice right now, lesser of two evils [Beer]

[KevDen2005]

I'm seeing all the fire restriction stuff and in the process reading what each county and national forest has restricted. I am not seeing shooting bans or am I just missing it?

[centrarchidae]

I'm seeing all the fire restriction stuff and in the process reading what each county and national forest has restricted. I am not seeing shooting bans or am I just missing it?

At least in Park County (the only one where I've really been paying attention): http://parkco.us/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=32

And around Foulplay, it's damn dry.

[Irving]

I am pretty critical of the governor, but I want to make it clear that I think he did a great job pretending to take a critical action in a great time of need, and then appropriately lifting the ban once the state got some rain. Good job guy.

[KevDen2005]

At least in Park County (the only one where I've really been paying attention): http://parkco.us/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=32

And around Foulplay, it's damn dry.

Thanks...

I want to camp in Park County/Pike National Forest in two weeks and was hoping to shoot. I was also hoping to build a camp fire but I thought that was would be too much wishful thinking.

[tmckay2]

Actualy this thread was first if you want to split hairs.

[KevDen2005]

Does anyone know of any place that the ban on shooting is lifted....maybe even perhaps campfires (wishful thinking)?

[jackthewall81]

Does anyone know of any place that the ban on shooting is lifted....maybe even perhaps campfires (wishful thinking)?

Nope. Pawnee is still closed... [Bang]

[battle_sight_zero]

Look forward to shooting bans to happen every summer from this point forward.

[02ducky]

I am pretty critical of the governor, but I want to make it clear that I think he did a great job pretending to take a critical action in a great time of need, and then appropriately lifting the ban once the state got some rain. Good job guy.

+1 Hickenpooper is an idiot!

[merl]

http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/arp/alerts-notices

Should show up there when lifted. Is even a rss link if you use that

[spleify]

I am anxiously awaiting more info on this. I am going camping this weekend

[KevDen2005]

I am anxiously awaiting more info on this. I am going camping this weekend

Yeah, hopefully we see some bans lift. I can do without the camp fire for the most part, I have lots of propane style stoves. I really want to shoot my rifles.

[spleify]

Yeah, hopefully we see some bans lift. I can do without the camp fire for the most part, I have lots of propane style stoves. I really want to shoot my rifles.

Yeah exactly my thoughts, camping and not shooting is gonna be boring

[CrufflerSteve]

Actualy this thread was first if you want to split hairs.

This is also the proper place for this thread.

It looks like Pike and San Isabel National Forests Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands has gone back to Stage 1 fire restrictions as of July 12th.


http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/psicc/alerts-notices

Bruno Gulch looks to be closed to shooting. Does this mean the South Site is open! If so, be cool. No exploding anything. Bring lots of water, shovels and such.

Steve

[Notorius]

reading order 12-12, south site looks ok now. can anyone confirm?

[HoneyBadger]

I'd also like to know about the south site... wife and I are about to head down there to shoot her new gun!

[HoneyBadger]

According to exhibit L under order UFC-01-12, it looks like the south site is OPEN! I compared the map to some other maps I have and I was looking at the wrong place [Tooth] It's dated 17 July.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/psicc/alerts-notices

[Great-Kazoo]

Here is what i posted, after this one was started. Bottom of story, for the mentioned areas still in effect.
I doubt we will see public shooting until there has been a solid week of rain.
2 weeks left this month then aug which is not known for a lot of moisture.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20120713/NEWS01/307130023/Some-fire-restrictions-eased-Arapaho-Roosevelt-Pawnee-lands?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1 (http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20120713/NEWS01/307130023/Some-fire-restrictions-eased-Arapaho-Roosevelt-Pawnee-lands?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1)

[Notorius]

that post doesnt mention pike ntl forest?

[Notorius]

went to south site and had a great time. had about 6 other groups UK p therr

[HoneyBadger]

South Site is definitely open. Notorius, I'm not sure when you were there, but I was there from 10-12, we were the tan pickup truck, closest to the entrance. Great day for shooting, and good to see so many people there being safe and responsible. I'll post pictures and a report in the South Site thread after I get home from work.

[HoneyBadger]

Here is what i posted, after this one was started. Bottom of story, fo rthe mentioned areas still in effect.
I doubt we will see public shooting until there has been a solid week of rain.
2 weeks left this month then aug which is not known for a lot of moisture.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20120713/NEWS01/307130023/Some-fire-restrictions-eased-Arapaho-Roosevelt-Pawnee-lands?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1

Not sure why you posted that Jim, it's out of date and it's not from an official source.

[Great-Kazoo]

Not sure why you posted that Jim, it's out of date and it's not from an official source.


Out of date story, mentions fire ban until X day. Read the story and see the info at bottom. I believe quoting usually is from an official source
Question asked about about fire ban, there are shooters in NOCO who would like to know when they can shoot on public land. Not limited to you el paso guys

[roman gnome]

South site was busy this morning.[Beer]

[Notorius]

South Site is definitely open. Notorius, I'm not sure when you were there, but I was there from 10-12, we were the tan pickup truck, closest to the entrance. Great day for shooting, and good to see so many people there being safe and responsible. I'll post pictures and a report in the South Site thread after I get home from work.

must have just missed you. i think we got there a couple after 12 and that first area was empty. and the next area up was there all afternoon doing some kind of drills or something.

howd the new gun shoot?

[HoneyBadger]

Out of date story, mentions fire ban until X day. Read the story and see the info at bottom. I believe quoting usually is from an official source
Question asked about about fire ban, there are shooters in NOCO who would like to know when they can shoot on public land. Not limited to you el paso guys

I'm sorry, I got thinking this thread was just about the south site... my bad! [Abused]

[HoneyBadger]

South site was busy this morning.[Beer]

Were you the one running the drills shouting "BLUE! TRIANGLE! SQUARE!"?? Whoever that was, it sounded like fun. I wanted to go introduce myself, but we kind of ran out of time.


must have just missed you. i think we got there a couple after 12 and that first area was empty. and the next area up was there all afternoon doing some kind of drills or something.

howd the new gun shoot?

It shoots alright. We got a diamondback DB9. I can shoot it with no issues, but when she shoots it, it FTFs almost every round. I watched her shoot almost 50rds like this and I can't figure out why... very frustrating for her to say the least. I want to say that she is limp wristing or just not holding it tight enough, but her hands had red imprints of the grips and from where I was standing, I couldn't see any obvious problems. I'm not sure what the problem is. She has incredibly small hands, so maybe she just needs a smaller caliber, but I'm not sure. The best thing happened though: She isn't very confident with her new gun (because she couldn't get it to feed reliably!), but she did finally admit that she really liked shooting my AR, and when I halfway jokingly suggested that she would have to get her own AR to shoot, she was very open to the idea.. maybe even a little excited. [Love1]

[DaBull]

Forgive my ignorance...but what is the south site? I am in the Springs too...and always looking for a safe place to shoot.

[tmckay2]

Anyone know of any backcountry areas that are allowing fire?

[roman gnome]

Were you the one running the drills shouting "BLUE! TRIANGLE! SQUARE!"??

No, that wasn't us. We drove up into the back area.

And a giant thanks to whoever left all the 45acp brass on the ground...

cleaned it, sized it and reloaded it all last night! [Beer]

[HoneyBadger]

No, that wasn't us. We drove up into the back area.

And a giant thanks to whoever left all the 45acp brass on the ground...

cleaned it, sized it and reloaded it all last night! [Beer]

Nice find! (and thanks for picking up other people's 'trash')

Where I was shooting, there was only a little bit of .22lr brass, but nothing reloadable and no trash. I always try to pick up as much brass as I can, even though I don't have a reloading setup yet. I keep brass in 1 gallon plastic gatorade bottles and I have 2 gallons of .223/5.56 brass, 1.5 gallon of 6.8 brass, and 1 gallon of 9mm brass. Someday I'll get a reloading station...

[JMBD2112]

i've been watching the the usda.gov website to see if they will ever lift the shooting ban for pawnee. i called 970-295-6600 as provided on the website but the number is disconnected? i was hoping to to make it up there on sunday. any of you guys know a different number to call?

[Great-Kazoo]

i've been watching the the usda.gov website to see if they will ever lift the shooting ban for pawnee. i called 970-295-6600 as provided on the website but the number is disconnected? i was hoping to to make it up there on sunday. any of you guys know a different number to call?

BEAST556 went there last week (wed?) he said there were signs all over stating NO FIREARMS / SHOOTING

Without any rainfall since last week i doubt we will see any shooting until Sept.
Good thing i belong to a range.

[JMBD2112]

i know i need to sac up and join a range too, i just put this together and have no where to shoot it.http://i.imgur.com/i00Tr.jpg

[HoneyBadger]

i know i need to sac up and join a range too, i just put this together and have no where to shoot it.


That's purdy! [Beer]

[alxone]

any word on squaw pass , south site , pine junction or pike?

[JMBD2112]

so i finally was able to reach somebody at the pawnee office today and the lady took my e-mail adress and said she would let me know when the ban was rescinded, so i will update this if i hear anything soon.

[HoneyBadger]

any word on squaw pass , south site , pine junction or pike?


South site is definitely open for business. The nearest shooting ban is more than 5 miles to the South.

[alxone]

South site is definitely open for business. The nearest shooting ban is more than 5 miles to the South.
right on ! thanks honeybadger [Beer]

[JMBD2112]

South site is definitely open for business. The nearest shooting ban is more than 5 miles to the South.


how far out can you shoot at the south site?

[offgrid]

On my home today spotted a few "No Shooting, violators will be prosecuted" signs here in Clear Creek Co.

[Great-Kazoo]

so i finally was able to reach somebody at the pawnee office today and the lady took my e-mail adress and said she would let me know when the ban was rescinded, so i will update this if i hear anything soon.


Don't hold your breath.

[JMBD2112]

Don't hold your breath.

i'm not, she basically said the same thing, we would have to get several days of rain for it to be lifted.

[tmckay2]

how far out can you shoot at the south site?

I was wondering the same thing

[HoneyBadger]

how far out can you shoot at the south site?

The main spot is about 100 yds, and there are several spots by the entrance that are 40-80 yrds, but there are a few places back a little ways that can reach out to about 200. Bring a laser rangefinder if you have one.

[JMBD2112]

just received an email from dianna moore at the forest service that the shooting ban has been lifted. just thought i would spread the word.

[cohunter39]

I hope you are right, but they havent changed it on the forest website yet.

[JMBD2112]

the e-mail i received about an hour ago:

Hi folks! Good news – the shooting ban has been rescinded, effective August 2, 2012, on the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests and the PAWNEE NATIONAL GRASSLAND! Target shooting will be allowed beginning tomorrow. Just remember – everyone who’s been wanting to target shoot may be out there all at the same time. Use caution, be sure to let folks know where you are so they are not shooting toward you, and be sure you are not shooting their way. Also, Just a reminder: use caution if you are using steel jacket/steel core ammunition, as those will still cause sparks and could cause a fire. No exploding targets or tracer rounds, as those are not allowed to be used on public land at all.

Also, we will have researchers out on the grassland from time to time, so scope the areas out to be sure you’re not shooting the research and range folks! We appreciate that!

Have a safe and fun weekend!

Dianna J. Moore
Visitor Information Specialist
Pawnee National Grassland
Arapaho/Roosevelt National Forests
660 O Street
Greeley, CO 80631
970-346-5001
www.fs.usda.gov/arp (http://www.fs.usda.gov/arp)

[223kev]

That sounds like good news indeed!

[RonMexico]

Man, I just got back from chambers lake this afternoon. They had a ton of fire ban and no shooting signs up still. We did have a lot if rain up there, so I didn't understand the need for the ban. If you are going up there, watch out for mudslides

[Great-Kazoo]

I'm impressed and surprised. only 7 days since i posted it might be longer.
Now i can shoot with those folks who do not belong to a range, yeah

[james_bond_007]

From the USDA Site: http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/arp/alerts-notices/?cid=fsm91_058163



Fire Restrictions Lifted Date(s): Aug 2, 2012
Stage I Fire Restrictions and related restrictions on discharging firearms have been lifted on the on the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests and Pawnee National Grassland (ARP). It is important to remember that conditions can change quickly. Please continue to be careful with every fire, and make sure campfires are completely out before your leave them. Some Counties may still have restrictions place that affect campfires, shooting and other activities on the National Forests System lands know before you go.
Before target shooting please visit www.fs.usda.gov/goto/arp/targetshooting (http://www.fs.usda.gov/goto/arp/targetshooting) for information on rules, regulations, target restrictions and local closures.

[Geology Rocks]

So shooting in arapahoe national forest is allowed.....cool.

Thanks for the update

Joe

[DangerLee_Industries]

Nice 007..... [Beer]

[Teufelhund]

Awesome. I'm sure we'll see some of you at Pawnee this weekend. Be safe!

[islandermyk]

Awesome. I'm sure we'll see some of you at Pawnee this weekend. Be safe!

[Tooth]


really leaning on this one [Beer]

[Teufelhund]

[Tooth]


really leaning on this one [Beer]

Yeah probably, but you have to try! [Beer]

If you're out there this weekend and see a blue trailblazer with a new sticker on the back window, stop by and say hi.

[islandermyk]

Yeah probably, but you have to try! [Beer]

If you're out there this weekend and see a blue trailblazer with a new sticker on the back window, stop by and say hi.

will do... I may go Saturday[Beer]

[JMBD2112]

will do... I may go Saturday[Beer]

going saturday too, give me a call mike if you want to meet up

[islandermyk]

going saturday too, give me a call mike if you want to meet up

It's so on... [Tooth]

I'll give you a call tomorrow for sure.... I'm trying to get some things together having it be a some what last minute thing[Coffee] [Beer]

[GhostRider]

alright, thats great news!!! Now I can get my grandson and grand nephews out shooting before the grandson goes back home from his summer visit.
[Ban2][Ban2][Ban2]

[islandermyk]

Okay... it's on for Pawnee...


... gonna get a few down long range tomorrow :D

[Tinelement]

Okay... it's on for Pawnee...


... gonna get a few down long range tomorrow :D

I hate you!!

I think every fn day since the ban we are like....

Is Pawnee open, is Pawnee open, is Pawnee open?????

And got sheet going on this weekend!

Have fun!!!!!!!

[bimmer]

I'll be out there tomorrow also.

[islandermyk]

I hate you!!

I think every fn day since the ban we are like....

Is Pawnee open, is Pawnee open, is Pawnee open?????

And got sheet going on this weekend!

Have fun!!!!!!!

Theres plenty time to shoot.. you got my number... hit me up when you go out [Tooth][Beer]


I'll be out there tomorrow also.

I'll be out there with JMBD2112...

.. you'll know it's us... I'll be driving my great big white van it'll probably say free candy on the side of it [ROFL1]

[islandermyk]

I'll be out there tomorrow also.

if you don't mind me asking....


what type of shooting will you be doing?


We'll be doing some long range shooting... hopefully hitting pass the 1200 yard mark...


.. we'll be putting expensive holes on the ground.. that's for sure [LOL]

[bimmer]

Just a couple hand guns and an AR. Maybe a shotgun or mosin. I'm not sure what time we'll be going. You gonna be shooting a .50 or a .338? Lol

[islandermyk]

You gonna be shooting a .50 or a .338? Lol

I wish....

Just .308's... I should be up there by 6am [Tooth]

[bimmer]

Well we're lazy and probably won't get there till sometime in the afternoon.

[islandermyk]

It was beautiful up at Pawnee...

The Park Ranger looked pretty hot too... to bad she didn't stop by [Muaha]


... we all must shoot in different areas... I don't know if I passed by anyone from here...

.... if you saw a big white van... it was me [Tooth]

[AztecWarrior]

Where is Pawnee located exactly? Anyone know the status of Lefthand canyon?