Archery Question

[10mm-man]

OK, I seen the other Archery post but didn't want to hijack his. I was a Bass pro Shop today and shot a few bows; Bear Encounter, PSE Stinger, Diamond outlaw. Not wanting to go over $400 - minus arrows of course.

I thought test drive and buy on Ebay, prob is they seem to be cheaper on Ebay but less items; quiver, different sights etc.

So I am wondering am I missing a really good shooter I haven't tested? bro in law has a switchback but can't find it under $400 on Ebay, so those named aside any suggestions?

Please only reply if you actually hunt and have downed your Elk, Buck, etc. need some real experience here....

Thanks,

[trlcavscout]

If you can find one, the Bowtech Tribute and Allegiance are my favorite all time bows. I have found them on ebay bare in the $300 range and setup in the $400 range. Just me personal preference but strings are cheap and easy in any colors material you want. The 07 allegiance has always been my goto. You can find Elites in the same price range, check elite forums and archery talk. Elite was formed by the Bowtech engineer gone rogue. I personally dont like Mathews but some do, you have to change cams to change draw length. Elite z28 and gt500 are excellet shooters but also cam change. Bowtechs and diamond use mods to adjust and offer different pull/speed options (on the Allegiance/Tribute you can use smooth/speed/airborne mods and can really nail down the draw length you want cheap and easy. I would get a good used bow before a new pse/bear etc. I know 3 guys that bought new pse's and hate them and thats their high end bows. The new Bowtech packages run in the $400 range i believe, like 7 1/2" brace height, 34 ATA, and around 315 or higher when tuned with ibo shafts.

[esaabye]

I picked up a great hoyt rampage off CL for a great price. If you test out a few bows from the majors (Hoyt, Matthews, Diamond, Bear) you can see what you like.

I actually met the seller at the bow shop and had it inspected before I paid.

[Ah Pook]

There have been some good bows for sale here. Try CL.

I picked one up from forum member and couldn't be happier. With all the FS shooting bans, archery has filled the void.

Along with the bow figure in arrows, tips, release and something to shoot at.

Try some of the local archery shops. Some might sell used. I'm sure they all can provide better service and product than Ass Pro. I found that $400 was the starting point for decent bows.

Patients will be rewarded. [Coffee]

[esaabye]

http://www.thearcheryhut.com/ is a great shop to check out, they do sell some used as well and have a range and complete services.

If you want to get out and shoot hit me up, am a member at the AFA club, nice walking courses...

[275RLTW]

Archery talk (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/)

Great deals on 1-2 yr old bows there. If you know you're correct drawlength and what you're looking to spend, search the classifieds there. As a pro, I got 2-3 bows per year. When I got new ones in I sold the older models here for less than 1/2 of retail. Pretty common still from other pro staff & shooting staff.

[XC700116]

I'm going to bite my tongue a bit so I don't go on a 4 page rant, but I will say this, go to a REAL archery shop, don't waste your time or money at a big box store, I've seen VERY few big box archery departments that know their stuff and can correctly set up a bow. Go to a pro shop and get set up right the first time and you'll be much happier. Tell them your budget and they'll most likely have you shoot a couple (if not ask) find what works for you and go with it. (if they won't let you shoot anything, walk out and go to another shop).

yes I've killed multiple animals by archery MANY times, been hunting archery for over 15 years and also managed to take 2nd at the MN state indoor tourney when I lived there a few (6) years back. Sadly I haven't even owned a bow in the last 2 years since work and other hobbies interfered and it takes too much time and dedication to do it right.:(

[MileHighOutlaw]

I see that you live in Castle Rock. Pelligrinos is a great shop down in the Springs. You have Full Rut out in Elizibeth as well. First thing you need to know is what is your draw length. It does you no good to buy a bow off CL or Archery Talk if it does not fit you right. Like I said in the other post,I am a avid bow shooter and can help you out if you want.

[spittoon]

bear creek archery and even dicks sporting goods has great prices

[AR-Tracker]

I bought an older Browning Tornado few years back and took three bulls and couple deer. Spent a whole 180 bucks on ebay and put a 60 Dollar sight on it.
works just fine.
Then I bought a Z7 and took a cow first day out with it.
to me the new one is faster quieter cost tons more money and still does same thing the old cheap bow does "hits the Target".

Spend what you can afford they all work!


Good luck !

[Ah Pook]

Archery talk (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/)

Great deals on 1-2 yr old bows there. If you know you're correct drawlength and what you're looking to spend, search the classifieds there. As a pro, I got 2-3 bows per year. When I got new ones in I sold the older models here for less than 1/2 of retail. Pretty common still from other pro staff & shooting staff.
Are you a lefty with a 28 1/2" draw length? [Love1]

[275RLTW]

Are you a lefty with a 28 1/2" draw length? [Love1]

should be but I refuse to be backwards and I shoot a more open stance than most bowhunters. RH, 26 5/8" draw length.

Most newer bows can change draw length with a simple cam or module change. Do some research and make sure you take whatever bow you get to an actual proshop to get it fitted to you, tuned properly, and of course checked out (strings, cables, axles, limbs, etc...). Dont forget to check out a 3D leage or shoot to work on shot placement and yardage estimation. You should spend as much time judging yardage as you do shooting. Good thing is, as long as you don't lose arrows, it doesn't cost money to keep shooting!

[Ah Pook]

should be but I refuse to be backwards and I shoot a more open stance than most bowhunters. RH, 26 5/8" draw length.

Most newer bows can change draw length with a simple cam or module change. Do some research and make sure you take whatever bow you get to an actual proshop to get it fitted to you, tuned properly, and of course checked out (strings, cables, axles, limbs, etc...). Dont forget to check out a 3D leage or shoot to work on shot placement and yardage estimation. You should spend as much time judging yardage as you do shooting. Good thing is, as long as you don't lose arrows, it doesn't cost money to keep shooting!
Check the post above.

Backwards? I should be offended. [Coffee] In reality, I can shoot either handed. Shooting southpaw I can actually hit the target.

What is a more open stance? I'm most comfortable with the left foot at a 45˚ angle and the right at a 90˚ at about 2 1/2' apart.

[10mm-man]

WOW! I have so much info! Way more than anticipated.... Not even gonna try and respond but a BIG "THANK YOU" to all your responses!![Beer]

I will be making a decision in the next couple days so I will keep you all updated!

Seems like I think like a lot of you do! Anyone want to go shoot?

[10mm-man]

If you can find one, the Bowtech Tribute and Allegiance are my favorite all time bows. I have found them on ebay bare in the $300 range and setup in the $400 range. Just me personal preference but strings are cheap and easy in any colors material you want. The 07 allegiance has always been my goto. You can find Elites in the same price range, check elite forums and archery talk. Elite was formed by the Bowtech engineer gone rogue. I personally dont like Mathews but some do, you have to change cams to change draw length. Elite z28 and gt500 are excellet shooters but also cam change. Bowtechs and diamond use mods to adjust and offer different pull/speed options (on the Allegiance/Tribute you can use smooth/speed/airborne mods and can really nail down the draw length you want cheap and easy. I would get a good used bow before a new pse/bear etc. I know 3 guys that bought new pse's and hate them and thats their high end bows. The new Bowtech packages run in the $400 range i believe, like 7 1/2" brace height, 34 ATA, and around 315 or higher when tuned with ibo shafts.

I am taking note of the bows you listed and gonna head to a shop to try! I am with you on the Mathews, doesn't impress me much for some reason.

Thanks,

[10mm-man]

http://www.thearcheryhut.com/ is a great shop to check out, they do sell some used as well and have a range and complete services.

If you want to get out and shoot hit me up, am a member at the AFA club, nice walking courses...

Definitely wanting to go shoot, so as soon as i get it I will PM you....

[10mm-man]

Archery talk (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/)

Great deals on 1-2 yr old bows there. If you know you're correct drawlength and what you're looking to spend, search the classifieds there. As a pro, I got 2-3 bows per year. When I got new ones in I sold the older models here for less than 1/2 of retail. Pretty common still from other pro staff & shooting staff.

Thanks for the tip on the forum![Beer]

[10mm-man]

I'm going to bite my tongue a bit so I don't go on a 4 page rant, but I will say this, go to a REAL archery shop, don't waste your time or money at a big box store, I've seen VERY few big box archery departments that know their stuff and can correctly set up a bow. Go to a pro shop and get set up right the first time and you'll be much happier. Tell them your budget and they'll most likely have you shoot a couple (if not ask) find what works for you and go with it. (if they won't let you shoot anything, walk out and go to another shop).

yes I've killed multiple animals by archery MANY times, been hunting archery for over 15 years and also managed to take 2nd at the MN state indoor tourney when I lived there a few (6) years back. Sadly I haven't even owned a bow in the last 2 years since work and other hobbies interfered and it takes too much time and dedication to do it right.:(

taking your advice, real shops tomorrow and next! Nice job on the tourney and hunts! Thanks for your response....

[10mm-man]

I see that you live in Castle Rock. Pelligrinos is a great shop down in the Springs. You have Full Rut out in Elizibeth as well. First thing you need to know is what is your draw length. It does you no good to buy a bow off CL or Archery Talk if it does not fit you right. Like I said in the other post,I am a avid bow shooter and can help you out if you want.

Definitely wouldn't mind the help and gonna find those shops in the A.M.

[10mm-man]

to me the new one is faster quieter cost tons more money and still does same thing the old cheap bow does "hits the Target".

Spend what you can afford they all work!


Good luck !

You know it's funny you say this because those are my thoughts exactly! I see all these new guys buying expensive "fast bows" and it just kinda makes me wonder? I mean Indians and others (before us modern folk) used sticks, so hummm, do I really need a pricey bow? Not sure I do, just one that is gonna hit were I aim. My grandparents used to hunt with re curve bows and that is what i learned on...

[10mm-man]

bear creek archery and even dicks sporting goods has great prices

Looking up bear creek, Thanks![Beer]

[MileHighOutlaw]

Anytime you want to shoot let me know. I'm game.

[275RLTW]

Check the post above.

Backwards? I should be offended. [Coffee] In reality, I can shoot either handed. Shooting southpaw I can actually hit the target.

What is a more open stance? I'm most comfortable with the left foot at a 45˚ angle and the right at a 90˚ at about 2 1/2' apart.

Spent some time with US Olympic team coach Lee (http://www.kslinternationalarchery.com/) & had to revisit what I had learned in the previous 18 years of competive shooting. Made me a much more efficient shooter, ie... less fatigue, better utilization of muscles and positioning, more sustained consistency...

[Mtn.man]

Shoot where ya can, then check out some pawn shops, killer deals on some Hi end bows.

[10mm-man]

Shoot where ya can, then check out some pawn shops, killer deals on some Hi end bows.

Ahh ha, pawnshops! Never even thunk it.............

[Irving]

Is a recurve bow good to pick up if you just want to learn to shoot casually?

[J]

Is a recurve bow good to pick up if you just want to learn to shoot casually?

If you have more time, bigger targets, and/or better backstop/runoff area behind the target.

I have both. The recurve is tons of fun, but much more difficult. With the recurve you get tired more quickly, and this amplifies the difficulty greatly.

I can hit a standard target every time at 50 yards with very little effort on a compound bow. When I start getting pretty tired on the 55# draw on my recurve, I'm lucky to hit a target 50% of the time at 35 yards. When you muscles get tired, it is amazingly difficult to be stable.

Because of this, you will get fewer shots in per session. I can put 300% more shots into a 1hr session with a compound than I can a recurve, because I need to rest or I am worthless if I try to power through a recurve practice.

[Irving]

Exactly the kind of answer I was looking for. Thank you.

[J]

Hell, you're up near me. If there is a time that works, I'd let you shoot mine to get a feel for it. Would just ask you to replace any arrows broken or lost while you shoot.

[10mm-man]

Hell, you're up near me. If there is a time that works, I'd let you shoot mine to get a feel for it. Would just ask you to replace any arrows broken or lost while you shoot.


Sounds like a set up for a "bromance" not sure I would fall for it!! Once your hooked he is gonna have you and then no telling what he might want..... [ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]

I am also gonna scream "high jack"- that's ok set up your date....

[Irving]

Thanks Jay. Just a passing curiosity I'd like to try one day, no need to tie up your time at this point. I am a sniper with a bow on Zelda though.

[J]

Sounds like a set up for a "bromance" not sure I would fall for it!! Once your hooked he is gonna have you and then no telling what he might want..... [ROFL1][ROFL2][ROFL3]

I am also gonna scream "high jack"- that's ok set up your date....

Damn. You figured me out. [Coffee]