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I am watching FOX news and it is quite annoying/upsetting that they continue to report James Holmes "did not have a firearms permit, or a concealed carry permit, yet somehow was found with these weapons".
Just the way they continue to push with an undertone for more restrictions on law abiding citizens...all because one person went nuts. History is rarely learned and apparently the media doesn't look back very far.
Apparently they don't know there is no requirement and should be no requirement to own a firearm other than what the form 4473 requires when you go to purchase one.
Maybe it is time to limit media and their stupidity.
I just shut off Fox news, spokes woman kept saying that person had a automatic weapon, how does she know? She went on to say that most mass kling in America are from people with automatic weapons, really?
Unfortunatly this wouldn't be the time to correct any one about the mis-guided information on firearms that the media gives out without looking like a class A a**hole. I can't stand listening to any news outlet talk about firearms because for some reason they don't take any time to do any research before they flap the gum's trying to be an expert or atleast just sound like one to the ill informed.
The Heretic
07-20-2012, 11:01
The media doesn't know there ass from a hole in the ground....And if they did they would still report it wrong...
Rooskibar03
07-20-2012, 11:05
Media drives me up the friggen wall. Heidi Hemmant interviewed a father who's daughter was shot and killed and wife is in critical condition and when she asked him point blank "Is your daughter dead?" She was so cold and clinical in the way she asked him, I wanted to punch her in the mouth.
F you Heidi. The whole "the people want to know" argument for broadcasters anymore is BS. No one can know what that guy is feeling, but we also don't need to here some poor guy who is clearly in shock being asked dumb ass questions by you.
Great-Kazoo
07-20-2012, 11:06
Ii get my info here. Except for the weather 9:15 or 10:15[ish] we don't watch the news.
Jumpstart
07-20-2012, 11:08
I am watching FOX news and it is quite annoying/upsetting that they continue to report James Holmes "did not have a firearms permit, or a concealed carry permit, yet somehow was found with these weapons".
Just the way they continue to push with an undertone for more restrictions on law abiding citizens...all because one person went nuts. History is rarely learned and apparently the media doesn't look back very far.
Apparently they don't know there is no requirement and should be no requirement to own a firearm other than what the form 4473 requires when you go to purchase one.
Maybe it is time to limit media and their stupidity.
E-mail Fox this exact post.[Coffee]
E-mail Fox this exact post.[Coffee]
I think I will
I quit TV in '06, I don't miss it a bit.
islandermyk
07-20-2012, 11:37
I quit TV in '06, I don't miss it a bit.
on the same boat myself... 04 or 05... been that long without it.
... can't stand to much of the mainstream sh*t that goes on... especially with the news...
bigshane
07-20-2012, 12:01
On TV the police chief just said he used an AR-15 "Assault Rifle" arrgh. Assault Rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle) has a very specific definition and an AR ain't it!! Is it too much to ask that senior law enforcement people know what they are talking about?
Also quit TV a few years back. Nothing good comes from it!
68Charger
07-20-2012, 12:49
F you Heidi. The whole "the people want to know" argument for broadcasters anymore is BS. No one can know what that guy is feeling, but we also don't need to here some poor guy who is clearly in shock being asked dumb ass questions by you.
That's because it's not really "the people want to know", it's all "the execs want the ratings".
As long as news stations are ratings-based and have sponsors with agendas (or cave to boycotts), there is no "free press" anymore.
closest thing is forums and bloggers- but they usually have an agenda, too- just more integrity.
and no, I don't think state-sponsored media is the answer, I don't have the answer. I just know broken when I see it.
Some of them seem to think they're doing the right thing by having a comments feature (especially social media comment sections outsourced to Facebook or the like)
but all of them seem rife with trolls pushing agenda from so far to one side or the other that it's sickening.
BushMasterBoy
07-20-2012, 13:10
I bet the media do not reference this shooting in Ludlow, Colorado.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre)
Or the Sand Creek Massacre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre)
I consider televison to be for entertainment purposes only as it is ratings driven and its primary source of income is from large for profit corporations.
josh7328
07-20-2012, 13:12
That's because it's not really "the people want to know", it's all "the execs want the ratings".
As long as news stations are ratings-based and have sponsors with agendas (or cave to boycotts), there is no "free press" anymore.
closest thing is forums and bloggers- but they usually have an agenda, too- just more integrity.
and no, I don't think state-sponsored media is the answer, I don't have the answer. I just know broken when I see it.
Some of them seem to think they're doing the right thing by having a comments feature (especially social media comment sections outsourced to Facebook or the like)
but all of them seem rife with trolls pushing agenda from so far to one side or the other that it's sickening.
I HATE news article comment sections. The sheer stupidity and illiteracy of the people commenting is rediculous! It must be that intelligent people have better things to do with their time than get into retard fights with uneducated strangers.
Media peeps actually have orgasms over this type shit. they live for it.
Rucker61
07-20-2012, 14:43
Media peeps actually have orgasms over this type shit. they live for it.
And throw out 5000 ridiculous theories simmultaneously, hoping one is close to the truth so they can point at it with pride on being "first" and "right". I refuse to watch TV news.
"Definitions
A genuine assault weapon, as opposed to a legal definition, is a hand-held, selective fire weapon, which means it's capable of firing in either an automatic or a semiautomatic mode depending on the position of a selector switch. These kinds of weapons are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and are further regulated in some states. (See machine guns (http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html).)
However, current "assault weapon" legislation defines certain semi-automatic weapons as "assault weapons." A semi-automatic weapon is one that fires a round with each pull of the trigger, versus an automatic weapon which continues to shoot until the trigger is released or the ammunition supply is exhausted. These kinds of "assault weapons" are sometimes referred to as military-style semi-automatic weapons.
An example of assault weapon legislation is the Federal 1994 Crime Bill. The bill in part outlaws new civilian manufacture of certain semi-automatic assault weapons. It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock
A pistol grip
A bayonet mount
A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
A grenade launcher.
Or whatever the hell they can come up with
[Rant1]
The Heretic
07-20-2012, 16:32
And so it begins.....decided to stop at Firing Line on my way home to talk to my fellow shooters and wouldn't you know it, tv cameras and interviews in progress. The vultures leave no stone unturned!
crashdown
07-20-2012, 16:36
So what kind of permits, background checks, or licensing does the media claim would have prevented this specific tragedy?
trlcavscout
07-20-2012, 16:36
Never trust a man that wears makeup! I watched a few different ones today and heard the usual "assault weapon", "machine gun" etc etc... Mudder humper listened to too many fitty cent songs, damn man all guns arent "Glock 40's" and "machine guns". And AR-15's arent what I carried in the Army either mudder trucker!!! Douche bags cant even get the numbers right, if you dont fricken know, dont say it.
Just overhead on KUSA, "...many of these weapons are easily converted to fully-automatic." really? On whose authority did they get this bit of misinformation?
On another note, overheard on a flight home this morning (been up since 0300 EST so I'm tired and cranky anyway), "There's no reason anyone should ever be allowed to own an assault weapon or handgun." We all know there are so many issues with that statement - our rights, bad guys, simple logic, etc.
This same libtard decided it was OK to endanger a whole airplane full of people by taking video/pictures out the window on approach with his Chinese iPad knockoff tablet. Yes, I know the Mythbusters proved no harm, no foul on phones, but HE was breaking the laws put in place by the FAA to protect the flying public and rules by the airline because they can't possibly test all this odd crap.
They just don't see the hypocrisy of their words and actions. Had this event not just unfolded, he would have gotten an earful on both accounts.
Just overhead on KUSA, "...many of these weapons are easily converted to fully-automatic." really? On whose authority did they get this bit of misinformation?
On another note, overheard on a flight home this morning (been up since 0300 EST so I'm tired and cranky anyway), "There's no reason anyone should ever be allowed to own an assault weapon or handgun." We all know there are so many issues with that statement - our rights, bad guys, simple logic, etc.
This same libtard decided it was OK to endanger a whole airplane full of people by taking video/pictures out the window on approach with his Chinese iPad knockoff tablet. Yes, I know the Mythbusters proved no harm, no foul on phones, but HE was breaking the laws put in place by the FAA to protect the flying public and rules by the airline because they can't possibly test all this odd crap.
They just don't see the hypocrisy of their words and actions. Had this event not just unfolded, he would have gotten an earful on both accounts.
You should have turned him in
"Definitions
A genuine assault weapon, as opposed to a legal definition, is a hand-held, selective fire weapon, which means it's capable of firing in either an automatic or a semiautomatic mode depending on the position of a selector switch. These kinds of weapons are heavily regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and are further regulated in some states. (See machine guns (http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html).)
However, current "assault weapon" legislation defines certain semi-automatic weapons as "assault weapons." A semi-automatic weapon is one that fires a round with each pull of the trigger, versus an automatic weapon which continues to shoot until the trigger is released or the ammunition supply is exhausted. These kinds of "assault weapons" are sometimes referred to as military-style semi-automatic weapons.
An example of assault weapon legislation is the Federal 1994 Crime Bill. The bill in part outlaws new civilian manufacture of certain semi-automatic assault weapons. It also prohibits new civilian manufacture of "large capacity ammunition feeding devices" declared certain weapons as assault weapons, and states a semi-automatic rifle is an assault weapon if it can accept a detachable magazine and has two or more of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock
A pistol grip
A bayonet mount
A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one
A grenade launcher.
Or whatever the hell they can come up with
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You forgot "holds one or more rounds of small arms ammunition"...
DD977GM2
07-20-2012, 18:20
Just overhead on KUSA, "...many of these weapons are easily converted to fully-automatic." really? On whose authority did they get this bit of misinformation?
On another note, overheard on a flight home this morning (been up since 0300 EST so I'm tired and cranky anyway), "There's no reason anyone should ever be allowed to own an assault weapon or handgun." We all know there are so many issues with that statement - our rights, bad guys, simple logic, etc.
This same libtard decided it was OK to endanger a whole airplane full of people by taking video/pictures out the window on approach with his Chinese iPad knockoff tablet. Yes, I know the Mythbusters proved no harm, no foul on phones, but HE was breaking the laws put in place by the FAA to protect the flying public and rules by the airline because they can't possibly test all this odd crap.
They just don't see the hypocrisy of their words and actions. Had this event not just unfolded, he would have gotten an earful on both accounts.
No offense, but your being as whiney as the libtard. I flew 3-5 times a week for 3 years and routinely left my phone on in my pocket on my flights and NEVER experienced anything other than a smooth flight.
There is no flipping way that a cell phone is going to mess up anything with the plane other that the intercom scratchyness when the captain comes over to tell you they are about to start the approach. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
DD977GM2
07-20-2012, 18:22
Just overhead on KUSA, "...many of these weapons are easily converted to fully-automatic." really? On whose authority did they get this bit of misinformation?
On another note, overheard on a flight home this morning (been up since 0300 EST so I'm tired and cranky anyway), "There's no reason anyone should ever be allowed to own an assault weapon or handgun." We all know there are so many issues with that statement - our rights, bad guys, simple logic, etc.
This same libtard decided it was OK to endanger a whole airplane full of people by taking video/pictures out the window on approach with his Chinese iPad knockoff tablet. Yes, I know the Mythbusters proved no harm, no foul on phones, but HE was breaking the laws put in place by the FAA to protect the flying public and rules by the airline because they can't possibly test all this odd crap.
They just don't see the hypocrisy of their words and actions. Had this event not just unfolded, he would have gotten an earful on both accounts.
Also have you ever heard of airplane mode for a tablet or iphone etc?
Well, seems we have most of the media registered here now, Here's your chane to educate them. [Tooth]
No offense, but your being as whiney as the libtard. I flew 3-5 times a week for 3 years and routinely left my phone on in my pocket on my flights and NEVER experienced anything other than a smooth flight.
There is no flipping way that a cell phone is going to mess up anything with the plane other that the intercom scratchyness when the captain comes over to tell you they are about to start the approach. [Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Hey, I've had my phone ring at 5k on approach because I forgot to turn it off during a flight. My point wasn't the perceived, inherent, likely non-existent danger - note that the FAA has approved use only while IN-FLIGHT - my point was the hypocrisy of the situation.
Sadly, you chose to take the ad-hominem approach instead of keeping it about the intent of my post.
DD977GM2
07-20-2012, 19:56
Hey, I've had my phone ring at 5k on approach because I forgot to turn it off during a flight. My point wasn't the perceived, inherent, likely non-existent danger - note that the FAA has approved use only while IN-FLIGHT - my point was the hypocrisy of the situation.
Sadly, you chose to take the ad-hominem approach instead of keeping it about the intent of my post.
Hypocrisy abound. I understand and for me at that momnet, RIF and I failed.
jerrymrc
07-20-2012, 20:06
Back to the topic. I have not watched much coverage but did catch the police brief. Was it just me or did Mr "clip" seem to want to reinforce that much of the stuff ammo, mags were bought on the INTERNET ?
Not sure where he was trying to go with it but he seemed to act like buying things on the net was bad. Not sure what or why because ammo sales are regulated just like buying at wally world if not more so.
Just a thought.
BAN THE INTERNET!!!!
[Abused]
jerrymrc
07-20-2012, 20:10
BAN THE INTERNET!!!!
[Abused]
That works.[Coffee]
Byte Stryke
07-20-2012, 20:50
BAN THE INTERNET!!!!
[Abused]
That works.[Coffee]
because our forefathers never intended us to have freedom of speech on the internet!
Back to the topic. I have not watched much coverage but did catch the police brief. Was it just me or did Mr "clip" seem to want to reinforce that much of the stuff ammo, mags were bought on the INTERNET ?
Not sure where he was trying to go with it but he seemed to act like buying things on the net was bad. Not sure what or why because ammo sales are regulated just like buying at wally world if not more so.
Just a thought.
He said everything was purchased legally. The guns, the ammo, etc. Thankfully I'm glad he said that instead of parroting the bullshit the 24 hour agencies have been saying about shit being illegal or unlicensed or whatever.
BAN THE INTERNET!!!!
[Abused]
Works for me. We will do another "Everyone is banned" scare, like we had a month or two back.
http://i.imgur.com/30EvS.jpg
hghclsswhitetrsh
07-20-2012, 21:36
http://i.imgur.com/30EvS.jpg
Fuckin wow. [Mad]. Stupid heartless bitch.
HoneyBadger
07-20-2012, 21:48
It must be that intelligent people have better things to do with their time than get into retard fights with uneducated strangers.
Yup.
because our forefathers never intended us to have freedom of speech on the internet!
You seriously need to loosen the tinfoil a bit..
Zundfolge
07-20-2012, 22:11
Well, seems we have most of the media registered here now, Here's your chane to educate them. [Tooth]
Except that they're not here to be educated, they're here to further their political agendas.
DD977GM2
07-20-2012, 22:13
Who is Tricia Evans? Besides a heartless ****[Rant1][Bang][Rant1][Bang]
Who is Tricia Evans? Besides a heartless ****[Rant1][Bang][Rant1][Bang]
Not sure, she seems to be a TMZ-style news anchor.
For those who don't know, deadmau5 is a musician.
Prometheus
07-20-2012, 22:53
Acted like the media and didn't check, whoops thanks
Aloha_Shooter
07-20-2012, 23:01
Did anyone else hear governor "chicken blooper" say they are confirming 70 casualties, love the leadership, idiot
Casualties are dead AND wounded so in this case, he's right.
Prometheus
07-20-2012, 23:21
Outed me as an idiot thanks, but I know he wasnt using a 40 mm hand gun as reported[Bang]
Scanker19
07-21-2012, 10:27
ABC seems to be playing for keeps now.
http://news.yahoo.com/gun-deaths-familiar-american-experience-143015822--abc-news-topstories.html
johngraves2
07-21-2012, 10:56
CNN just had their law enforcement expert on air and they are saying how in CO you must buy a permit for every gun you own and it is $152.50 for each permit. They amount seems familiar......maybe what it costs to get a CCW.......Maybe they should do more research before they report!!!!!!!!
They also said they are going to interview Bass pro and Gander mountain to see if the weapons are properly registered to the guy.
In 30 seconds I can do a wikipedia search and find that all of these statements they made are false. is their no honesty in reporting??
Again, this is why modern journalism is shit. They don't bother to fact check their information, they just want to be the first ones to broadcast it.
CNN just had their law enforcement expert on air and they are saying how in CO you must buy a permit for every gun you own and it is $152.50 for each permit. They amount seems familiar......maybe what it costs to get a CCW.......Maybe they should do more research before they report!!!!!!!!
They also said they are going to interview Bass pro and Gander mountain to see if the weapons are properly registered to the guy.
In 30 seconds I can do a wikipedia search and find that all of these statements they made are false. is their no honesty in reporting??
That is just mind numbing.
http://i.imgur.com/30EvS.jpg
Thanks for posting that, as a fan of that style of music, I'm not the biggest DeadMau5 but I have a new-found respect for him for giving that bitch the business!
If you're looking for responsibility in the media don't hold your breath, you'll be waiting for a while. They get things wrong so often that you have to take everything "journalists" say with a grain of salt.[Bang]
CNN legal expert " A-15 rifles are legal as well as high capacity ammunition".....
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