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ANADRILL
07-23-2012, 19:01
I have looked online, and I am not impressed with the wraps I see there, seems expensive for what your getting.
Has anyone here made a suppressor wrap for an AR-15. I was in Bower's, and they pulled up a welding cloth sold online that looked promising for 14.99. I am not going for looks, just want to kill the mirage. Anyway, any suggestions?
Regards,
R
ANADRILL
07-23-2012, 19:14
Was looking at that, but was told it may collect moisture...Have you tried it?
No, it just came to mind.
Was looking at that, but was told it may collect moisture...Have you tried it?
Ive used it on cars before it can and does trap moisture but I don't see this being too much of a problem on a firearm because your not driving it through puddles etc
Whistler
07-23-2012, 21:00
Something like motorcycle exhaust pipe wrap? http://www.jpcycles.com/exhaust-wrap
One thing about it from a motorcycle perspective is the heat retention can be damaging to the pipes.
Nomex (http://www.magnafabrics.com/category/nomex.htm)?
O2
ANADRILL
07-23-2012, 22:01
Nomex is another idea, but need to find a place that sells it in small quanities.
Great-Kazoo
07-23-2012, 22:23
Ive used it on cars before it can and does trap moisture but I don't see this being too much of a problem on a firearm because your not driving it through puddles etc
The heat generated in a short period of time vs heat dissipation will give you issues with exhaust / heat wrap sooner than later.
An exhaust while heating up is moving, allowing air to pass over the wrap and diminish temp faster rather than slower.
Here are a few of the many links
If you decide to bulk buy, lmk as, i have an interest in some too.
http://www.sternandstern.com/nomex_fabrics.html
http://shop.vtarmynavy.com/nomex-acu-flame-retardant-fabric-p7671.aspx
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=nomex+cloth
Ok, pardon my newb. What is the wrap for? I see it all the time and just thought it was for looks.
Does it actually serve a purpose?
Great-Kazoo
07-23-2012, 22:29
Ok, pardon my newb. What is the wrap for? I see it all the time and just thought it was for looks.
Does it actually serve a purpose?
Makes it easier to remove a very hot can.
I use nomex gloves, but sometimes forget to bring them along.
The spouse gave me a few of these to keep in the gun box. Very non gun looking gloves, but you can bet no one is going to walk with them.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/As-Seen-on-TV-Ove-Glove-Hot-Surface-Handler/10216942
ANADRILL
07-24-2012, 08:11
That, and heat mirage, which right now is my my biggest issue, since I am running a scope, and not a red dot...
loosen up the pocket book and buy once and save the headache of trying to find something that kind of sort of does the job. I bought the TAB gear cover and IMO, it's worth the price, as steep as it seems.
Good info thanks for explaining for me. [Awesom]
The can covers are to eliminate the mirage from heat in scoped rifles .
A 223 can on an AR will get too hot and melt the cover .
Since they trap the heat in the can there needs to be a provision for removal to allow the can to cool so it is not damaged , the can and the cover .
The TAB covers that people are talking about here ARE NOT rated for semi auto fire and within 3 or 4 mags they will melt .
Due to the heat generated by a typical 223 can on an AR there is no real option for covers that last .
ANADRILL
07-25-2012, 22:39
loosen up the pocket book and buy once and save the headache of trying to find something that kind of sort of does the job. I bought the TAB gear cover and IMO, it's worth the price, as steep as it seems.
Price is not a real issue,but i have read the TAB, and the Elite Iron's melt, which has driven, me to want something that is FA rated...
ANADRILL
07-25-2012, 22:42
The can covers are to eliminate the mirage from heat in scoped rifles .
A 223 can on an AR will get too hot and melt the cover .
Since they trap the heat in the can there needs to be a provision for removal to allow the can to cool so it is not damaged , the can and the cover .
The TAB covers that people are talking about here ARE NOT rated for semi auto fire and within 3 or 4 mags they will melt .
Due to the heat generated by a typical 223 can on an AR there is no real option for covers that last .
Well stated, was about to post the same, thats why it would be nice to focus collectivly to come up with a viable solution..I have looked at TAB and Elite Iron, and from what I have read they don't satisfy my need...:)
There are some hard covers out there made out of carbon fiber tubes . They don't really do anything for the mirage as the get hot and radiate heat as well , more for not melting stuff when bumped than any thing else . To eliminate the mirage problem you have to trap the heat and 223 cans aren't conducive to this on semi auto's let alone full auto .
The covers were designed around a precision rifle concept and not a high volume carbine .
Nomex is another idea, but need to find a place that sells it in small quanities.
Could just but a surplus flight suit... just make sure it says nomex, there are some fake cotton flight suits/ coveralls at surplus shops
what about this? http://www.mcnett.com/camoform/ you can wrap barrels with it, not 100% sure about the heat with suppressors
A 223 can on an AR will get too hot and melt the cover . only if you're dumping through high volume. I use the TAB on two of my AR's and not had any problems but I use them mostly while calling coyotes. I also run the TAB on two bolt guns while shooting prairie dogs, and not had any melting. The bolt guns typically get hotter than my AR's because when shooting prairie dogs, I shoot more volume than I normally do with my AR's when calling coyotes.
I'll see if Zak still has the pictures of the cover that we melted on purpose . Once the outer nylon goes shiny its too hot and it has started to fail . This happens long before you see any distortion in the material .
Thats why you have to be able to remove the cover to allow the trapped heat to escape .
Like I said in my last post the covers are designed around a precision rifle concept not a high volume carbine application .
ANADRILL
07-26-2012, 14:21
thanks!
C Ward, how many rounds and in what time frame did it take to reach the melting point on the TAB that you heated up on purpose. Just curious.
The outer cover got shiny at about 60ish and turned black at about 100 or so . Its been 5 or so years so Its not fresh any more . We were shooting as fast as you could make hits on a C zone at about 200 yards , about one round every 2 seconds or so . We new goin in what the end result was goin to be and was done pretty much out of boredom .
well, sounds like I shouldn't have to worry about it then, while shooting prairie rats. We get the barrels pretty hot sometimes, but for the most part, it's just common sense to switch guns before reaching that critical "hot" point as too avoid barrel damage.
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