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jonny450r
07-23-2012, 21:49
I tried using the search function,but I'm not able to find anything on this. but my current AR is setup pretty much to be a bench rifle. I was looking at the timney 3lbs drop in but for a bench gun I would like it a little bit litter then that, preferably around the 1.5-2lbs mark. I've looked on brownells and I couldn't find anything close to that. But I figure with all the knowledge on here you guys would know where I can go to find a drop in close to that or someone local that I can take my lower to and have them do a trigger job on it instead? Thanks for the help guys and I'll get a pic of my rifle tomorrow after the battery for my camera re-charges.

asmo
07-23-2012, 22:02
When we are talking about sub 4lb triggers - the weight of the trigger pull has much less to do with the accuracy of the shot than the crispness of the break.

This has been proven over and over again with olympic and palma shooters.

jonny450r
07-23-2012, 22:10
When we are talking about sub 4lb triggers - the weight of the trigger pull has much less to do with the accuracy of the shot than the crispness of the break.

This has been proven over and over again with olympic and palma shooters.
I will agree with you on that. Even with my 10/22s I've built I have one that I had a custom trigger done on it and it's 1.5lbs and another that I put a kidd trigger job kit in that measures 2-2.5 depending on the gauge. I enjoy shooting the 2.5lb trigger more cause it is crisper and breaks where I want it. But for my bench guns I like to be below 3lbs, it's just a personal preference of mine. I would rather have a trigger job done actually to save a bit on money, support a local business and get the setup I want as far as where it breaks and crispness.

BPTactical
07-24-2012, 07:41
Put a Jewel, Jard or Geissel in it. Any of them will be capable of the 1.5# mark but as mentioned before, a crisp breaking 3# will be all you need.
Rock River offers a nicely priced single stage
A "trigger job" on stock AR components is generally a short term proposition. They are case hardened just a few thousandths deep and most of the time by the time you stone out the factory surface to a nice polished surface the case hardening is pretty much gone. I have done rifles only to have the customer come back a few hundred rounds later saying the trigger went to mush.
After inspection the nice crisp edges that were polished to a tea went south and were rolled and battered.
I'm all for making money but I want to see a customer spend their hard earned money where they are going to reap the best result for their dollars spent.
Spend the money on a quality trigger and never worry about it again.

cofi
07-24-2012, 10:43
Geisslle is the way to go

Wiggity
07-24-2012, 11:45
Geisslle is the way to go


This



Every time my Geisslle SD3G breaks its like a finger orgasm

asmo
07-24-2012, 12:53
The SD3G is just fricking beauty personified. It is perfect in every way.

Besides that its just stupid fast.

Wiggity
07-24-2012, 12:56
The SD3G is just fricking beauty personified. It is perfect in every way.

Besides that its just stupid fast.


STUPID fast......[M2]

jonny450r
07-24-2012, 16:57
Thanks guys I'll be looking up those triggers and go that route instead.


Put a Jewel, Jard or Geissel in it. Any of them will be capable of the 1.5# mark but as mentioned before, a crisp breaking 3# will be all you need.
Rock River offers a nicely priced single stage
A "trigger job" on stock AR components is generally a short term proposition. They are case hardened just a few thousandths deep and most of the time by the time you stone out the factory surface to a nice polished surface the case hardening is pretty much gone. I have done rifles only to have the customer come back a few hundred rounds later saying the trigger went to mush.
After inspection the nice crisp edges that were polished to a tea went south and were rolled and battered.
I'm all for making money but I want to see a customer spend their hard earned money where they are going to reap the best result for their dollars spent.
Spend the money on a quality trigger and never worry about it again.
I just checked out your website and I need to get in contact with you about some work on my 1911s and possibly some other work[Beer]

20X11
07-24-2012, 21:46
+1 Geisslle SD3G ...Call Bowers Tactical and have them hold one for you...walk in, buy it, walk out 20 mins later with the thing installed. Buy from them...install included in the price (approx $240)

J
07-24-2012, 21:49
Drop in as well. I have a Timney and a Hogan Gold. Honestly can't tell the two apart and love em both. I prefer the feel of a single stage trigger over two stage, which is why I dont have any geiselle units. They are nice too, I'll admit.

Wiggity
07-24-2012, 22:25
Drop in as well. I have a Timney and a Hogan Gold. Honestly can't tell the two apart and love em both. I prefer the feel of a single stage trigger over two stage, which is why I dont have any geiselle units. They are nice too, I'll admit.

You clearly haven't tried the sd3g


It's a 1stage 2stage hybrid that has the most crisp break and shortest reset

J
07-24-2012, 22:29
Dry fired one once. It was nice, would be good to get some actual shots on one. I think for its purpose it is great. Where I have upgraded before is in ARs I use more for bench rest type shooting. Still prefer the 3lb single stage there.

I have thought about doing an upgraded trigger on the ultra light run and gun build I'm about to finish. I may just have to give the SD3G some more time on that.

wildkcars
08-07-2012, 20:22
I know that single stage is Taboo for bench rifle but I have both the SD3g and a JP single stage. The SD is great trigger but for 130 dollars less and some of my time the JP is a clean crisp break sub 4# and has no over travel and little to no reset. You are able to dial in the over travel and reset. Cut the tang off the back of your millspec hammer and you not only have a custom trigger but a very fast lock time too. ALL this for 100 bucks. Ok 113$.

SideShow Bob
08-07-2012, 20:29
Thanks guys I'll be looking up those triggers and go that route instead.


I just checked out your website and I need to get in contact with you about some work on my 1911s and possibly some other work[Beer]

Bert gives great trigger jobs, so good that your finger just had sex.
You know, finger banged.........[LOL]

C Ward
08-07-2012, 20:58
JP gunsmith trigger in every one of my AR's , crisp , reliable 2.5 to 3 lbs on all of them .

One Shot
08-07-2012, 21:46
I have a Geissele SSA and I like it alot. Got mine from Bowers as well.

spyder
08-09-2012, 01:47
A good stoning done by hand is better than any drop in trigger.

Troublco
08-09-2012, 08:23
I have two with the Rock River drop ins and they're OK, but that's about it. I put JP's in two more, and they're fantastic. One was the trigger with springs, and the second was the full kit with the already bobbed hammer. I don't notice much difference between them, but as I recall there was not a significant difference in price, either. They're definitely not drop in, there's work involved, but they're great.

I won't stone stock components for the reasons listed by BP. I have managed to clean up stock triggers with a little careful, non-stone polishing on just the sear edge of the trigger, but only to give it a cleaner break.