View Full Version : WTF, a Denver Photo Radar Ticket?!
Buckaroobonsai
07-30-2012, 15:27
How funny. Just got one in the mail today. It was the wrong race, wrong motorcycle, and after a closer inspection of the photo, was even the wrong plate number! I called the phone number on the ticket, and they agreed to fix it. Even if they didn't, I was in roll call during the date and time it was taken, so am pretty sure it would have been thrown out in court anyways!
[NoClue]
clublights
07-30-2012, 15:30
How funny. Just got one in the mail today. It was the wrong race, wrong motorcycle, and after a closer inspection of the photo, was even the wrong plate number! I called the phone number on the ticket, and they agreed to fix it. Even if they didn't, I was in roll call during the date and time it was taken, so am pretty sure it would have been thrown out in court anyways!
[NoClue]
I swear they just hope you will pay it anyways....... revenue generation!
lpgasman
07-30-2012, 15:51
Just pay it!:)
EDIT: sarcasm!
jreifsch80
07-30-2012, 15:57
You are not required to pay a ticket that isn't served by a peace officer, hickenlooper even admited to this on the mike Rosen show
mevshooter
07-31-2012, 08:41
You are not required to pay a ticket that isn't served by a peace officer, hickenlooper even admited to this on the mike Rosen show
Yes, however, a buddy of mine who lived in Denver did that (for a Denver ticket) and they just doubled the fine and sent an officer to his house.
Now if you live somewhere other than Denver and get a photo radar ticket... that's a different story.
That's lame you had to deal with the ticket but cool you got it handled. I saw a story a while back on that photo ticket as well where no technically you don't have to pay it but they will add to it and if an officer does serve it to you then you are screwed, but they only have I think 90 days to serve you or it's dropped. My lady had one last year she never paid and they never served her.
SuperiorDG
07-31-2012, 08:53
One of my employees got one a while back. I sent them a picture of me and it was clearly not the same person in the photo ticket. They sent a letter back saying I had to go to court to prove it. Result: paid the ticket and took it out of my employee's check.
Byte Stryke
07-31-2012, 09:21
One of my employees got one a while back. I sent them a picture of me and it was clearly not the same person in the photo ticket. They sent a letter back saying I had to go to court to prove it. Result: paid the ticket and took it out of my employee's check.
not real sure of the legals on that one....
One of my employees got one a while back. I sent them a picture of me and it was clearly not the same person in the photo ticket. They sent a letter back saying I had to go to court to prove it. Result: paid the ticket and took it out of my employee's check.
So is that an offer to take anyone here's photoradar tickets and pay them out of your employee's check? [Tooth]
I was in roll call during the date and time it was taken
Does this mean your a LEO? How am I the only one who caught this? If that's the case, wouldn't they give you a little leniency either way? [Coffee]
We get them all the time on the fleet cars.. which are registered to the business. Send in a photocopy of the boss' id.. and never hear anything back..
68Charger
07-31-2012, 11:25
Yes, however, a buddy of mine who lived in Denver did that (for a Denver ticket) and they just doubled the fine and sent an officer to his house.
Now if you live somewhere other than Denver and get a photo radar ticket... that's a different story.
Reason # 1573 to NOT live in Denver... [Tooth]
I rarely even go to Denver, but I would force them to come find me...
cfortune
07-31-2012, 11:32
I saw a stop light camera flash this morning as I went through a yellow light. Going to be pissed if I get a ticket in the mail. Timing on that thing was way off.
DeusExMachina
07-31-2012, 11:55
I find it kind of amusing that they're going to try and tell what race the guy in a jacket, pants, boots, gloves and a black helmet is.
Buckaroobonsai
07-31-2012, 14:36
Actually wasn't them. The driver's face shot was pretty clear and he was only wearing sunglasses. He was obviously Caucasian, which I am obviously not.
[LOL]
I find it kind of amusing that they're going to try and tell what race the guy in a jacket, pants, boots, gloves and a black helmet is.
bigun1962
07-31-2012, 16:27
What kind of standards would that set? Fix a ticket because you are LEO? Poor moral standards. LEO's are held to a higher standard that the regular public.
Colorado Osprey
07-31-2012, 19:32
I saw a stop light camera flash this morning as I went through a yellow light. Going to be pissed if I get a ticket in the mail. Timing on that thing was way off.
Actually you just admitted fault.
You can not legally enter an intersection unless you know you can clear the intersection under a green light... when the intersection is controlled by an official traffic device (ie. light)
Go to court and fight it though. The response you should claim is that the light was green last time you saw it.
They will say that according to the photo you didn't clear the intersection under a green light.
You need to state that after you observed the green light you were busy observing traffic and the intersection while driving to make sure it was safe to clear the intersection of traffic, not staring at the light.
Byte Stryke
07-31-2012, 19:42
Actually you just admitted fault.
You can not legally enter an intersection unless you know you can clear the intersection under a green light... when the intersection is controlled by an official traffic device (ie. light)
Go to court and fight it though. The response you should claim is that the light was green last time you saw it.
They will say that according to the photo you didn't clear the intersection under a green light.
You need to state that after you observed the green light you were busy observing traffic and the intersection while driving to make sure it was safe to clear the intersection of traffic, not staring at the light.
I always thought it was "The light turned yellow right before I enter the intersection, I could not have safely stopped while traveling within the speed limit with the time and space given."
Its gotten me out of more than one "orange" Light
Colorado Osprey
08-01-2012, 06:32
I always thought it was "The light turned yellow right before I enter the intersection, I could not have safely stopped while traveling within the speed limit with the time and space given."
Its gotten me out of more than one "orange" Light
The speed limit is the maximum speed allowed under optimal conditions. Conditions could warrant that you should not be doing the "limit" could be many things like the weather, traffic, conditions, etc.
Traveling at the speed limit is not a defense for running an intersection and not being able to stop. You are stating you are driving too fast for conditions if you state you can't stop.
Again, go fight it in court. Memorize the statements I listed above. You are showing no fault and you will have a defense.
Buckaroobonsai
08-01-2012, 09:59
If you're referring to my comments, you're mistaken. If I'm in roll call at the time the photo was taken, I could easily prove that I wasn't the driver of the vehicle. Therefore, I am not liable, even if that was my vehicle, (which I've already explained it wasn't). No "fixing" involved. Just because we're held to a higher standard doesn't mean we can't be cleared of something we didn't do, just like anyone else.
What kind of standards would that set? Fix a ticket because you are LEO? Poor moral standards. LEO's are held to a higher standard that the regular public.
The speed limit is the maximum speed allowed under optimal conditions. Conditions could warrant that you should not be doing the "limit" could be many things like the weather, traffic, conditions, etc.
Traveling at the speed limit is not a defense for running an intersection and not being able to stop. You are stating you are driving too fast for conditions if you state you can't stop.
Again, go fight it in court. Memorize the statements I listed above. You are showing no fault and you will have a defense.
Not attacking you at all, but let's say for argument's sake I'm traveling 30MPH in a 35 zone. I'm 10ft from the intersection when the light turns yellow- average, at 30MPH it takes about 40ft to come to a complete stop- so I should slam on my brakes because "it's the law"? No. A yellow light is fair warning that if you cannot stop in time then go through the intersection before red. This "Crossing the intersection under green" crap, I've never heard of that in my entire life. Sounds pretty dumb.
If you're referring to my comments, you're mistaken. If I'm in roll call at the time the photo was taken, I could easily prove that I wasn't the driver of the vehicle. Therefore, I am not liable, even if that was my vehicle, (which I've already explained it wasn't). No "fixing" involved. Just because we're held to a higher standard doesn't mean we can't be cleared of something we didn't do, just like anyone else.
I think he was referring to ronin's post on the first page- saying they should give you leniency.
BTW: grip pod is still in the truck. :D
Buckaroobonsai
08-01-2012, 10:10
Being LEO doesn't make it go away. When I worked in Boulder County, we were expected to pay any photo enforcement tickets while working, if we couldn't justify our actions at that time. In Lakewood, we all slow down for Denver's photo radar vans on our border, as I'm sure the same applies. Trust me. NOBODY really likes photo enforcement tickets, well maybe someone in the city finance department...
Does this mean your a LEO? How am I the only one who caught this? If that's the case, wouldn't they give you a little leniency either way? [Coffee]
Buckaroobonsai
08-01-2012, 10:21
...and if you're not referring to my comments, then please disregard. However, it's a bit vague if you don't use the "quote" brackets when replying to a specific comment.
What kind of standards would that set? Fix a ticket because you are LEO? Poor moral standards. LEO's are held to a higher standard that the regular public.
Thanks man, I also have a new 12GA and a revolver coming this week, so hopefully you're feeling better to join in on the fun by next weekend!
[Beer]
I think he was referring to ronin's post on the first page- saying they should give you leniency.
BTW: grip pod is still in the truck. :D
Being LEO doesn't make it go away. When I worked in Boulder County, we were expected to pay any photo enforcement tickets while working, if we couldn't justify our actions at that time. In Lakewood, we all slow down for Denver's photo radar vans on our border, as I'm sure the same applies. Trust me. NOBODY really likes photo enforcement tickets, well maybe someone in the city finance department...
Hence why I had the coffee sipping smiley... [Beer] I think photo enforcement is BS, but then again the law that says I can't have a suppressor without jumping through hoops is BS too (NFA[Mad]), but what can you do? [Tooth]
Buckaroobonsai
08-01-2012, 10:59
Yeah man, it's cool. I didn't think an explanation in reply to your original comment was even needed until someone else took it as their battle cry.
:D
Hence why I had the coffee sipping smiley... [Beer] I think photo enforcement is BS, but then again the law that says I can't have a suppressor without jumping through hoops is BS too (NFA[Mad]), but what can you do? [Tooth]
Does this mean your a LEO? How am I the only one who caught this? If that's the case, wouldn't they give you a little leniency either way? [Coffee]
cfortune
08-01-2012, 11:24
Actually you just admitted fault.
You can not legally enter an intersection unless you know you can clear the intersection under a green light... when the intersection is controlled by an official traffic device (ie. light)
Go to court and fight it though. The response you should claim is that the light was green last time you saw it.
They will say that according to the photo you didn't clear the intersection under a green light.
You need to state that after you observed the green light you were busy observing traffic and the intersection while driving to make sure it was safe to clear the intersection of traffic, not staring at the light.
Thanks man. Will definitely keep that in mind. The reason I actually went through was there was a semi truck directly in front of me and I couldn't see the light until I was almost to the crosswalk. Not sure if that hurts or helps my case.
adamking84
08-01-2012, 14:42
I need to scan a copy of a red light ticket my buddy got on Halloween. He was driving his girlfriend's car in a full Kermit the Frog suit. The light was turning yellow and he figured if they can't see your face, they can't ticket you - so he just tilted his head down.
All you can see in the windshield is this giant Kermit the Frog face smiling at the camera. It's one of the funniest things i've seen in a while.
bigun1962
08-01-2012, 19:07
Agreed. If you are innocent you should fight to the death. I was replying to the folks that think LEO can never get a ticket.
hghclsswhitetrsh
08-01-2012, 22:55
I need to scan a copy of a red light ticket my buddy got on Halloween. He was driving his girlfriend's car in a full Kermit the Frog suit. The light was turning yellow and he figured if they can't see your face, they can't ticket you - so he just tilted his head down.
All you can see in the windshield is this giant Kermit the Frog face smiling at the camera. It's one of the funniest things i've seen in a while.
Yeah would enjoy that picture for sure! [Driver][PoPo]
My wife got one in Greenwood Village. It came to the house with my name on it since the car is in my name. They had good pictures and video and you could clearly see I was not the one driving the vehicle. I sent it back after filling out the part that said it wasn't me driving the vehicle. That was two months ago. Haven't heard anything about it since then.
What a scam. My payment (had I paid it) wasn't even going to Greenwood Village. It was going to some place in Arizona if I remember correctly.
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