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HoneyBadger
08-01-2012, 19:26
So I heard on a TV interview with (I think) the NSA's director of Cyber security, and he was saying that he was surprised the US hasn't faced a major cyber attack already, something that would shut down the banks or the power grid.
When things like this (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/business/unusual-volume-roils-early-trading-in-some-stocks.html?_r=1&hp) happen, I have to wonder if this is an attack, and how vulnerable we really are to attacks that could shut down the banks or the power grid. (That's not verbatim, but he did specifically mention shutting down banks and power grids.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/business/unusual-volume-roils-early-trading-in-some-stocks.html?_r=1&hp
Does anyone know if something like this is even possible? Basically a Die Hard 4 fire sale type event?
BushMasterBoy
08-01-2012, 19:36
I had a guy destroy my hard drive. I'm pretty sure he had a military grade program to do it too. I think it was a active duty military guy that stole the program from the .gov
It was a new laptop from Dell and they replaced it for free. I got lucky I guess...I'm alot more cautious now.
Rucker61
08-01-2012, 19:41
So I heard on a TV interview with (I think) the NSA's director of Cyber security, and he was saying that he was surprised the US hasn't faced a major cyber attack already, something that would shut down the banks or the power grid.
When things like this (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/business/unusual-volume-roils-early-trading-in-some-stocks.html?_r=1&hp) happen, I have to wonder if this is an attack, and how vulnerable we really are to attacks that could shut down the banks or the power grid. (That's not verbatim, but he did specifically mention shutting down banks and power grids.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/business/unusual-volume-roils-early-trading-in-some-stocks.html?_r=1&hp
Does anyone know if something like this is even possible? Basically a Die Hard 4 fire sale type event?
Ask the IT techs for the Iranian nuclear facilities.
Read up on Flame and Stuxnet. Some scary stuff out there.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/technology/researchers-link-flame-virus-to-stuxnet-and-duqu.html
ChunkyMonkey
08-01-2012, 19:53
Cannot hearrrr youuuu... too busy digging my bunker!
one can hardly imagine it, a national security official saying to be sceered?
Tinelement
08-01-2012, 20:21
I don't even have a computer.
Loaned it to a friend and he drowned with it in a tragic boating accident.
HoneyBadger
08-01-2012, 21:16
Read up on Flame and Stuxnet. Some scary stuff out there.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/technology/researchers-link-flame-virus-to-stuxnet-and-duqu.html
I am very aware of these events... And this is why I'm concerned.
I don't even have a computer.
Loaned it to a friend and he drowned with it in a tragic boating accident.
I lost my last 3 computers that same way. Strange world we live in.
Cannot hearrrr youuuu... too busy digging my bunker!
[ROFL1][Peep][ROFL2]
Let me say I was an account manager for a security company 3000+ seat accounts... You don't even want to know how real of a situation this is. Also, you might want to worry more about the security company than the terrorists. The fact that everything is digital means that the terrorists have had access for years to systems and access was given to them by their fellow IT friends.
Longnecktipper
08-01-2012, 21:37
My father was a global manager for a computer / electronics company . He's retired now ,but the things he showed me make me believe this is a very real possibility . Just good to know he's on the right side .
theGinsue
08-01-2012, 21:41
Big CyberSecurity seminar event going on in the Springs today and tomorrow (just found out about it this afternoon).
"cyber security" is the latest buzz words.
Don't buy (completely) into the hype..
Don't buy (completely) into the hype..
I agree that there is a lot of hype but if the developers of Stuxnet were on the other side things might be a lot different.
Lol stuxnet isn't what you need to worry about. Enterprise companies pay millions for threat removals for targeted threats that they don't even know has infected their whole enterprise until after it has compromised all of the systems.
Oh yeah. I brokered those deals. =) We're past hype.
GilpinGuy
08-02-2012, 02:10
Honey Badger don't care about banks or power grid. Just go underground and live like the Badger pimp he's supposed to be.
HoneyBadger
08-02-2012, 02:19
Honey Badger don't care about banks or power grid. Just go underground and live like the Badger pimp he's supposed to be.
That's pretty much the plan! [Coffee]
Nothing like the movies, but a lot of that is possible. There are many ways that the us could be brought down in an afternoon. Personally in light of all the crap going on in Iran and North Korea I worry about the "1 second after" possibility as well. Coordinating a sustained blackout of the grid through computers would be very difficult. The power plant that I work at has been making a lot of security upgrades recently though, so I wonder what has been going around in these "cyber security" meetings.
Cannot hearrrr youuuu... too busy digging my bunker!
Can I borrow that back-hoe when you're done? [Beer]
Rucker61
08-02-2012, 10:43
Can I borrow that back-hoe when you're done? [Beer]
My JD-410 license has likely expired by now, but I still remember how to operate one.
HoneyBadger
08-03-2012, 01:27
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Honeybadget, you are new so you don't know, but anything from infowars is extremely looked diwn upon here.
ChunkyMonkey
08-03-2012, 09:52
Honeybadget, you are new so you don't know, but anything from infowars is extremely looked diwn upon here.
^ This.. Anything Alex Jones are borderline paranoid schizophrenic stuff. Foxtrot will come along and spank ya, honeyBadger...
HoneyBadger
08-03-2012, 14:10
Sorry guys, I had forgotten about that. I guess I shouldn't be posting tin foil hat stuff in the middle of the night...
Have you seen the NSA's complex in Utah? I read a wired article on it, pretty interesting.
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